As of 8/26/2024 Caesar, her W-Engine, and her set have all been Buffed The buff is espically good for Caesar, her shield now provides 1000 Attack tldr.. This makes Caesar potentially bis on every team
well i need character that can give stun beside anby, knowingly chain attack in this game kinds importan and free dmg and buff as well. so yea if i didn't get Qingyi or lose 50:50 to any character beside Stunner. i take Cesar Salad any day.
not exactly, defense units can also support and deal damage, along with tanking so defenders are like. fighters, stunners, supporters, and defenders in one role
@@onetenths8017 Bro Qingyi is designed to stun, deal damage and support her team with damage amp. Is she a defense unit?? Dealing damage and Support aren't just exclusive to Defense units lol
I fucking despise how pretty much everything in this game seems to revolve around stun. It’s like if Genshin’s VV was borderline mandatory and took half of your team’s rotation instead of a press of a single button, it’s fucking insane.
Spring Embrace is Energy Generation Rate, which is a serparate and rarer stat than Energy Regen. If memory serves, Energy Generation Rate buffs passive regen as well as how much energy is gained from landing hits in combat. Energy Regen on the other hand is only passive regen.
She will likely get a couple buffs down the road tho. Like, remember how beta Qingyi everyone was saying how she was underwhelming at stunning that Anby still beat her clean there and her only value was the stunn dmg multiplier she provided, then they buffed her 1 week prior release and now people were convinced she was a great unit. And this was 1 week before release. So we still being around 60 days away from Ceasar, she will get buffed for sure. Finally that being said, she can already be great for my Grace/Piper anomaly team cause Grace is unconfortable as hell to play, so having shields is going to make her job at applying anomaly way easier. Grace/Piper/Ceasar or grace/ceasar/rina is gonna be a better team for me that whatever big damage increase Jane could provide, I prefer confortability over dmg increase.
i just found your channel through this video and the one for burnice and you explain stuff so much better than anyone else i've seen, thank you x 1000 and i am now subbed
I think she is built for the new Shiyu with insane dmg makes you wanna have more survivability The new shiyu would likely have rotation schedule in the future like what HSR did with multiple end-game
@@jstern25 I mean that they would release a limited time rotation like HSR with new kind of end-game The old one focus more on DPS check The new one that focus more on survivability
honestly Shields won't help you in new disputed shiyu at all especially if the shields dont act like a secondary hp bar that wont affect the hp bar once they are depleted. its the dodges and parries that make the difference. she can definitely help with assist points maintenance.
I think Caesar's additional ability is a vulnerablity debuff and not just normal dmg% from how it reads to me . But other than that great video as always 👍.
@@jstern25 There is DMG Taken Multiplier that works like vulnerability. DMG Taken Multiplier= 1+DMG Taken Increase Target−DMG Taken Reduction Target. That part of the formula seems to work similar to vul from hsr but it would probably better to just wait and test it directly.
the skill parry is not energy free on success. the initial cost is still there, but the two followup attacks become free. you can see it in the gameplay
Basically Caesar is Beidou/Taoqi+Zhongli. Tbh, just her intro music I am sold. What I am afraid of is that Miyabi+section 6 will debut after Sons of Calydon.
You made her sound very likable. Zhongli has never left my team that could be the same for Caesar. I will have 350 pulls~ on the 1.2 I think I'll pull Caesar, her weapon, and burnice or burnice c2(if that con is really strong)
I run S11, Lucy & Piper as my Team 2. I've yet to get Koleda but I can see that swapping out Piper with Caesar once her banner's out would make for a pretty strong comp
Okay so… Im getting both characters (hopefully) currently have 100 pulls saved i might have enough to get an s rank w engine for either burnice or caeser by 1.2 because caeser dosent have much f2p options should i go for hers instead of burnice?
instead of replacing current stunners, why not put her alongside them? For example Lyacon + Ceasar + Corin/Ellen or Qingyi + Ceasar + Anton/Zhu Yuan? Stun window would be increased drastically, and you get pretty good supportive buffs too. With her W engine, your stunner+DPS gets buffed even further.
Probably gonna be a bad team, but I'm running Koleda and S11 with her. Those are my first five stars and I think caesar will help frontload a fuck tone of daze with Koleda, and therefore, more dps windows for S11. The added defensive utility is icing on top tbh.
Hope they change something in her kit to make her scale with defense/hp, otherwise most W-engines will be pretty much useless for her save for her own and the season pass one.
Hmm Caesar *works* with Ellen as a stunner, but she's not worth pulling for that specifically I take it. This is off topic from the video but what should one do if their Ellen team is struggling due to the lack of stun? Right now I kind of have to run Rina and Soukaku with her. Anby is locked in with Zhu Yuan and Nicole. My Qingyi is apparently of the fire element and wears dorky battle glasses?
I'm not sure if i will pull for her. I got Koaleda, Lycon and Qingyi, so i dont really need more stunners but it would pair nicely with Nekomata or Corin. I would need a support, would Lucy be good with them?
Realistically, if Caesar is able to buff your main attacker and keep them on field for longer periods of time then wouldn't that be better than and invalidate that she does lower damage herself?
I think the new disk drive set is only for defense characters who have a defense assist so Seth and Caesar maybe Ben if he has one i don’t have him. Still incredibly good but you prob can’t use it one stunners
U can use defensive assist on stunners as well as most units in the game, the only chars that this does not apply are ranged chars like Rina and Zhu Yuan who have evasive assist
I wouldn't be surprised if she's good. Hoyo seem to have largely learned their lesson when it comes to producing bad 5* / S-rank characters (which they've done in GI and HI3). If anything, ZZZ is likely to suffer the same issue as HSR: too many good limited characters 😂
She have counter in her kit and it's have long up-time as well so it should not be hard to maintain the buff from it. Naturally you want to be attacked. Maybe her shield self counter work as well with it?
if she ended up being like zhongli, this game bout to get boring with the same ending like genshin, in the end they will find some bs ways to make the enemy super strong and shield/healing became a must, skill would be thrown out of the window so fast once shield became OP
Forcing people to do nothing but fucking perfect assists and dodges so they waste their time and deal fuck all damage is equally cringe. Ever try to setup Ellen’s CA against a Thanatos? Yeah, I’d very much prefer the game having characters that provide full IR so I don’t have to deal with that shit.
@@vladdyru sounds like skill issue to me, for me its pretty easy, just dodge counter with CA, perhaps u should go back to genshin.. besides, ellen is so easy to use, her skill animation is so long she is basically invincible while ur at it... but ig casual players are going to once again ruin another game for their lack of skill (and this game aint even that hard)
@@vladdyru and i think ive had similar arguments before, this game is basically pocket souls game, all u need is attack and dodge, the gameplay lies in the timing and memorization of the enemy move-set
@@manusiajawa715 This is a gacha game, friend. Like it or not, gacha games try to appeal to the widest audience - and the general consensus I've seen among casual players, which, again, whether you like it or not, make up the majority of the playerbase, is that people are waiting for healers and shielders. If you don't like that - you might as well either skip them when they inevitably drop and continue tryharding, or just fuck off yourself, because your Souls experience isn't going to last. Then again, it's nothing like a Souls game, I don't know where you even got that connection from, dodges and parries are actually reasonable in them, as you don't need to spam the shit out of dodge because of every level 1 scrub enemy attack there - poise is a very good fucking mechanic, in case you forgot all about it.
@@manusiajawa715 This is a gacha game, friend. Like it or not, gacha games try to appeal to the widest audience - and the general consensus I've seen among casual players, which, again, whether you like it or not, make up the majority of the playerbase, is that people are waiting for healers and shielders. If you don't like that - you might as well either skip them when they inevitably drop and continue tryharding, or just scram yourself, because your Souls experience isn't going to last. Then again, it's nothing like a Souls game, I don't know where you even got that connection from, dodges and parries are actually reasonable there, as you don't need to spam the shit out of dodge because of every level 1 scrub enemy attack - poise is a very good mechanic, in case you forgot all about it.
Her gameplay was so disappointingly boring to me… i really hope that in actual gameplay shes way cooler cause right now she looks more plain than seth by a mile
Genuinely curious how you’ve found out this information. But very much hoping it’s true as I have a pretty invested Corin (m6, level 50) and think Caesar might fit in a team with her and rina (who I just unlocked and would love a reason to invest in her). Also just love caesars design so as long as she is anything like this on release I know who I’m pulling for next 🫡
As of 8/26/2024
Caesar, her W-Engine, and her set have all been Buffed
The buff is espically good for Caesar, her shield now provides 1000 Attack
tldr.. This makes Caesar potentially bis on every team
Does she also provide daze? What is she a good substitute for, stunner or support?
@@nubbmann637 her w engine does
Daze increase was removed from her drive disk set
Glad to hear she is looking to be good. It's cool Defense characters are alternatives to Stun like Anomaly is to Attack.
he also said there's no alternative w engine for her so it's a pass for me
well i need character that can give stun beside anby, knowingly chain attack in this game kinds importan and free dmg and buff as well. so yea if i didn't get Qingyi or lose 50:50 to any character beside Stunner. i take Cesar Salad any day.
not exactly, defense units can also support and deal damage, along with tanking
so defenders are like. fighters, stunners, supporters, and defenders in one role
@@onetenths8017 Bro Qingyi is designed to stun, deal damage and support her team with damage amp. Is she a defense unit??
Dealing damage and Support aren't just exclusive to Defense units lol
I have Nekomata and just pulled her signature LC on standard banner
Definitely saving for Caesar now. No brainer. She's broken af
With them fixing anaomaly to increase daze, I was thinking that Anonaly was like hybrid Attack/Stun and Defense was hybrid Support/Stun
@@zeroisnine very possibly
considering how Seth played, he had QA trigger which is present for all support characters, you are most likely right.
I fucking despise how pretty much everything in this game seems to revolve around stun. It’s like if Genshin’s VV was borderline mandatory and took half of your team’s rotation instead of a press of a single button, it’s fucking insane.
Spring Embrace is Energy Generation Rate, which is a serparate and rarer stat than Energy Regen. If memory serves, Energy Generation Rate buffs passive regen as well as how much energy is gained from landing hits in combat. Energy Regen on the other hand is only passive regen.
@@zozihn8047 correct
Your ZZZ videos are really good! Keep them coming Prayge
thank you jstern very cool
@@izeik no
Thank you izeik, very cool
She will likely get a couple buffs down the road tho. Like, remember how beta Qingyi everyone was saying how she was underwhelming at stunning that Anby still beat her clean there and her only value was the stunn dmg multiplier she provided, then they buffed her 1 week prior release and now people were convinced she was a great unit. And this was 1 week before release.
So we still being around 60 days away from Ceasar, she will get buffed for sure.
Finally that being said, she can already be great for my Grace/Piper anomaly team cause Grace is unconfortable as hell to play, so having shields is going to make her job at applying anomaly way easier. Grace/Piper/Ceasar or grace/ceasar/rina is gonna be a better team for me that whatever big damage increase Jane could provide, I prefer confortability over dmg increase.
Check out my Qingyi guide as well! ruclips.net/video/RKi6eqyTL4M/видео.html
Can't only defence characters equip the new disk drive set?
@@Franklin_Johanessan no, but they just nerfed the set
skip make way for the arsonist TOOBASED
@@FurkyRobloxHacks Burnice Video very soon
@@jstern25can’t wait!
Hopefully I can play her with soldier 11 and replace Ben 🙏
Instant sub. Best video I have seen on upcoming character. I hope you continue to do all of them.
i just found your channel through this video and the one for burnice and you explain stuff so much better than anyone else i've seen, thank you x 1000 and i am now subbed
Thank you jstern! I appreciate the early coverage of Caesar.
I think she is built for the new Shiyu with insane dmg makes you wanna have more survivability
The new shiyu would likely have rotation schedule in the future like what HSR did with multiple end-game
@@chihaotran1568 disputed node is 1 time permanent content
But the enemies will very likely be a part of newer upcoming shiyu lineups
@@jstern25 I mean that they would release a limited time rotation like HSR with new kind of end-game
The old one focus more on DPS check
The new one that focus more on survivability
honestly Shields won't help you in new disputed shiyu at all especially if the shields dont act like a secondary hp bar that wont affect the hp bar once they are depleted.
its the dodges and parries that make the difference. she can definitely help with assist points maintenance.
@@sonicfraisheya4028 Shield are work like secondary HP bars if I undrstand correctly. They are increase your character HP basicly.
Assault Stunner is a niche that will last a long loong time
@@BlueShadesAll very possibly
defense is jack of all trade but Ceasar specifically is master of all
its too insane, tbh i hope she's got nefted but buffed on some niche
I think Caesar's additional ability is a vulnerablity debuff and not just normal dmg% from how it reads to me . But other than that great video as always 👍.
@@JayTheBoss242 vulnerability isn't a thing in this game
I combat buffs basically work the way vulnerability does (i.e. multiplicativelty to base damage%)
@@jstern25 There is DMG Taken Multiplier that works like vulnerability. DMG Taken Multiplier= 1+DMG Taken Increase Target−DMG Taken Reduction Target.
That part of the formula seems to work
similar to vul from hsr but it would probably better to just wait and test it directly.
@@zeroisnine That only true of atk% and impact% combat buffs unfortunately. 😕
@@JayTheBoss242 it's very likely calculated as dmg% judging from nicole
But you are right it's definitely worth checking
Defense isnt really an alternative stun, it's more of an inbetween between stun and support, the same way anomaly is to attack and stun
omg billy new best stunner ?! with Lucy ?!
If they do more disputed node type content in the future, defense character stocks probably go way up.
cesear + billy, because lore a can't wait for the next patch to get her.
i think shes far better than zhonglli considering withering garden 11 is very defensive based
Hm, so this is the one who conquered Gaul. Huh.
No no this is the salad. Lucy said so.
the skill parry is not energy free on success. the initial cost is still there, but the two followup attacks become free. you can see it in the gameplay
SHIZAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!
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Neko/Ceasar/Lucy new meta incoming
I plinked into the switch tech to air combo and negative edged on the like button. Dear uncle, I need that Burnice video now.
Basically Caesar is Beidou/Taoqi+Zhongli. Tbh, just her intro music I am sold. What I am afraid of is that Miyabi+section 6 will debut after Sons of Calydon.
You made her sound very likable.
Zhongli has never left my team that could be the same for Caesar.
I will have 350 pulls~ on the 1.2
I think I'll pull Caesar, her weapon, and burnice or burnice c2(if that con is really strong)
I run S11, Lucy & Piper as my Team 2. I've yet to get Koleda but I can see that swapping out Piper with Caesar once her banner's out would make for a pretty strong comp
HOly moly, a real limited support engine that is generic! That's sick. Ice-Jade Teapot in shambles.
Also, I just want a 3 Defense Meme Team Dream
Okay so… Im getting both characters (hopefully) currently have 100 pulls saved i might have enough to get an s rank w engine for either burnice or caeser by 1.2 because caeser dosent have much f2p options should i go for hers instead of burnice?
instead of replacing current stunners, why not put her alongside them? For example Lyacon + Ceasar + Corin/Ellen or Qingyi + Ceasar + Anton/Zhu Yuan? Stun window would be increased drastically, and you get pretty good supportive buffs too. With her W engine, your stunner+DPS gets buffed even further.
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY
personally i think caesar i'm gonna play her with Soldier 11 / burnice / caesar
Defence agents seem like stun and support hybrids with shields to me
Man, she seems fun. I can't wait.
Probably gonna be a bad team, but I'm running Koleda and S11 with her. Those are my first five stars and I think caesar will help frontload a fuck tone of daze with Koleda, and therefore, more dps windows for S11. The added defensive utility is icing on top tbh.
so the king is bringing upgrades for everyone (except qingyi). awesome!
will you be covering seth as well when he comes out?
Mister jstern, may I ask you a random question: which W-engine is a better one for a Piper main. Jane’s or Burnie’s?
My Ultimate team will be
Jane, Burnice, and Ceasar
Well someone is whaling here
can't wait for the double piper + caesar comp
Caesar will be the most underated banner. People are actually ignore her and hyp Burnice and Jane
Hope they change something in her kit to make her scale with defense/hp, otherwise most W-engines will be pretty much useless for her save for her own and the season pass one.
if she’s earnestly going to raise billy stonks BEST BELIEVE SHES GETTING PULLED.
Hmm Caesar *works* with Ellen as a stunner, but she's not worth pulling for that specifically I take it. This is off topic from the video but what should one do if their Ellen team is struggling due to the lack of stun? Right now I kind of have to run Rina and Soukaku with her. Anby is locked in with Zhu Yuan and Nicole. My Qingyi is apparently of the fire element and wears dorky battle glasses?
I'm not sure if i will pull for her. I got Koaleda, Lycon and Qingyi, so i dont really need more stunners but it would pair nicely with Nekomata or Corin. I would need a support, would Lucy be good with them?
Imma use her as a DPS lmao
How do we prefarm artifacts apart from impact, I guess anomaly in 4th slot?
Will you be making a video on Jane ?
@@smexxxxy I probably will be
are you going to make a video on jane pre release? i need to know if her w engine is worth pulling :>
is it certain that Caesar additional passive is only dmg% on not a vuln?
Would the best Nekomata team be Neko/Caesar/Lucy? Neko/Caesar/Jane?
Realistically, if Caesar is able to buff your main attacker and keep them on field for longer periods of time then wouldn't that be better than and invalidate that she does lower damage herself?
@@blind0wl123 yessir
"despite being named after a salad" LMAO
will jane. burnice, seth be viable if you don't have caesar? OR will seth's electric mess shit up?
@@KikoMakai it (should) be better with seth
Def character that stuns and has good anomaly application? And a tomboy biker mommy? Take my primos now
Its weird that you compare her to Qingyi because they both below to the stun family. Both characters have different roles to play.
Defense is basically the same as Stun, but with more safety. So comparison is natural
I think the new disk drive set is only for defense characters who have a defense assist so Seth and Caesar maybe Ben if he has one i don’t have him. Still incredibly good but you prob can’t use it one stunners
U can use defensive assist on stunners as well as most units in the game, the only chars that this does not apply are ranged chars like Rina and Zhu Yuan who have evasive assist
Caesar very good on withering garden 11
She does not do damage? Little confused.
I wouldn't be surprised if she's good. Hoyo seem to have largely learned their lesson when it comes to producing bad 5* / S-rank characters (which they've done in GI and HI3). If anything, ZZZ is likely to suffer the same issue as HSR: too many good limited characters 😂
Caesar before jane 💀
Skipping everything for Caesar
basically she does everything except damage
when is Kazuha of ZZZ?
burnice is all we care about
Wait, so you have to get hit to activate the full effects of Caesar’s W-engine?? That sounds really trash
maybe translation error. if not, then that's trash.
getting hit usually also activates from defensive assists or parries iirc
@@sonicfraisheya4028 Yeah. Maybe they should change it to “activates on counterattacks” or something like that.
She have counter in her kit and it's have long up-time as well so it should not be hard to maintain the buff from it. Naturally you want to be attacked. Maybe her shield self counter work as well with it?
a jane doe guide please
huh.. seth is eating good with that new set and wengine
Am I the only one that thinks that the Boss on the 2nd floor is easy, butt the Thanatos on the 1st floor is infinitely worse. (of Shiyu 8)
@@ArisV you might be
is seth better then caesar ?
never becaus hes not hot and jane is OMG MOMMY
Mr Jstern PogU
Nice zzz vids keep it up
if she ended up being like zhongli, this game bout to get boring with the same ending like genshin, in the end they will find some bs ways to make the enemy super strong and shield/healing became a must, skill would be thrown out of the window so fast once shield became OP
Forcing people to do nothing but fucking perfect assists and dodges so they waste their time and deal fuck all damage is equally cringe. Ever try to setup Ellen’s CA against a Thanatos? Yeah, I’d very much prefer the game having characters that provide full IR so I don’t have to deal with that shit.
@@vladdyru sounds like skill issue to me, for me its pretty easy, just dodge counter with CA, perhaps u should go back to genshin.. besides, ellen is so easy to use, her skill animation is so long she is basically invincible while ur at it... but ig casual players are going to once again ruin another game for their lack of skill (and this game aint even that hard)
@@vladdyru and i think ive had similar arguments before, this game is basically pocket souls game, all u need is attack and dodge, the gameplay lies in the timing and memorization of the enemy move-set
@@manusiajawa715 This is a gacha game, friend. Like it or not, gacha games try to appeal to the widest audience - and the general consensus I've seen among casual players, which, again, whether you like it or not, make up the majority of the playerbase, is that people are waiting for healers and shielders. If you don't like that - you might as well either skip them when they inevitably drop and continue tryharding, or just fuck off yourself, because your Souls experience isn't going to last. Then again, it's nothing like a Souls game, I don't know where you even got that connection from, dodges and parries are actually reasonable in them, as you don't need to spam the shit out of dodge because of every level 1 scrub enemy attack there - poise is a very good fucking mechanic, in case you forgot all about it.
@@manusiajawa715 This is a gacha game, friend. Like it or not, gacha games try to appeal to the widest audience - and the general consensus I've seen among casual players, which, again, whether you like it or not, make up the majority of the playerbase, is that people are waiting for healers and shielders. If you don't like that - you might as well either skip them when they inevitably drop and continue tryharding, or just scram yourself, because your Souls experience isn't going to last. Then again, it's nothing like a Souls game, I don't know where you even got that connection from, dodges and parries are actually reasonable there, as you don't need to spam the shit out of dodge because of every level 1 scrub enemy attack - poise is a very good mechanic, in case you forgot all about it.
Lucy Ceasar Neko?
Oolala
13:00 why you say his name like that XD
@@bobbynesss that's his name
It's pronounced like John Lee
piper looking really frikkin good with caesar
any men 5 stars any soon?
According to leaks, lighter was promoted from rank A to rank S, I guess he may appear in version 1.3, but nothing clear
adding to the other reply, even if lighter is an A rank, haramusa is in 1.4 who's S rank almost certainly
Sooooo shes broken. Nice.
Nah, i use ben
People who have a hard time with the flower boss at 11 and Razor should pull for Zhon...I mean Caesar.
Her gameplay was so disappointingly boring to me… i really hope that in actual gameplay shes way cooler cause right now she looks more plain than seth by a mile
Waiting for Miyabi.gif
Genuinely curious how you’ve found out this information. But very much hoping it’s true as I have a pretty invested Corin (m6, level 50) and think Caesar might fit in a team with her and rina (who I just unlocked and would love a reason to invest in her). Also just love caesars design so as long as she is anything like this on release I know who I’m pulling for next 🫡