Electronic Kit Build - Sine Wave Generator

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  • Опубликовано: 9 янв 2025

Комментарии • 127

  • @ke4est
    @ke4est 6 лет назад +25

    What you have is a Wein bridge oscillator. The incandescent lamp is not supposed to glow. You will also find it interesting if you tap the board and watch the scope...as the filament moves.

    • @JulianIlett
      @JulianIlett  6 лет назад +5

      Thanks, I'll check that out :)

    • @nicholasroos3627
      @nicholasroos3627 6 лет назад +3

      microphonic you could say :p . I recall some ceramic caps also showing similar behaviours but much less exaggerated in comparison to a springy filament.

    • @jlucasound
      @jlucasound 6 лет назад

      MG That is what I was thinking. I do seem to recall something decades ago that used a bulb like that for something other than light, which makes sense as what would you illuminate on a PCB? Kind of like springs can make your drum brakes work in your car or springs can create vibrato in your Fender Twin guitar amp.

  • @asmolbean9300
    @asmolbean9300 4 года назад +1

    Julian is so adorable, I feel like he's the kind of guy that has picnics in that park at the weekend. So wholesome :3

    • @asmolbean9300
      @asmolbean9300 3 года назад

      @Fletcher Leland nah I'm alright

  • @km5405
    @km5405 6 лет назад +1

    this is a tip which really helped me ... solder one end in very loosely ....press the resistor down flat while reflowing that joint; then solder in the other end.

  • @benthere8051
    @benthere8051 4 года назад +1

    When you were concerned about the 13.5 volt supply, you forgot about the 9 volt Zener across the supply. The 4700 series diodes are rated at one watt, so that is not a concern at the elevated voltage. The 220 ohm 1/4 watt's rating is more of a concern. 13.5V - 0.7 V = 12.8V - 9.1V = 3.7V 3.7*3.7/220= 0.062 so 62mW will not be problem.
    The light will not glow. The nonlinear resistance of the tungsten lamp helps lessen the distortion of the sine wave.

  • @MichaelBeeny
    @MichaelBeeny 6 лет назад +4

    I think you might find that 500 ohm pot is for tone purity, ie lowest distortion, not frequency. The lamp will not glow it's for temperature compensation.

  • @-yeme-
    @-yeme- 6 лет назад +2

    it really is simpler to think of the multiplier band as "how many zeros to add" rather than all the 10-to-whatever-power stuff

  • @uni-byte
    @uni-byte 2 года назад +1

    You should not expect the lamp to light. It's there as a PTC resistor to improve the THD of the oscillator.

  • @bennyboi0115
    @bennyboi0115 6 лет назад +18

    Yes! this is just what I need at the moment. Going through a hard time in school at the minute and your videos are the only thing which cheer me up!

    • @Okurka.
      @Okurka. 6 лет назад

      And then the masturbation generation wonders why they can't get a well-paid job.

    • @bennyboi0115
      @bennyboi0115 6 лет назад +2

      What? I do not understand what you mean by this?

    • @jlucasound
      @jlucasound 6 лет назад +1

      Don't pay any attention to "O". You hang in there HC. Bad days/hard times happen to everyone in school or in work. Life in general. Don't make the mistake I made of dropping out of school. Not suggesting you would but if you feel down, watch a Julian video. Keeps me going! Any RUclipsr, actually, that does electronics. Julian just happens to have one of the best deliveries and personalities that puts him, in my "book", at the top.

    • @asmolbean9300
      @asmolbean9300 4 года назад

      @@Okurka. bruh there isn't ANY jobs, let alone well paid ones. Also masterbation has existed for as long as animals have so idk what ur talking about.

  • @phreapersoonlijk
    @phreapersoonlijk 6 лет назад +8

    Thanks for trying it, I was about to have a fit !

    • @NNNILabs
      @NNNILabs 6 лет назад

      Hollywood should learn from Julian about cliffhangers.

  • @pvc988
    @pvc988 6 лет назад +7

    Looks like Wien bridge oscillator with buffered output. Bulb is there to keep the gain at just right level.

  • @martinsamuelsson2322
    @martinsamuelsson2322 6 лет назад +1

    Neat, I've had it with tht devices fitting them to the board just to have them fall straight out, now I just solder them on from the top side and it works a treat!

  • @lloydgarland4667
    @lloydgarland4667 6 лет назад +2

    No part two then Julian?

  • @lloydgarland4667
    @lloydgarland4667 6 лет назад +4

    Julian, try a magnet on those resistor lead cut-offs - think you'll find most are steel nowadays!

  • @gregorythomas333
    @gregorythomas333 6 лет назад +1

    I usually keep some very fine (1000 to 2000) grit sandpaper around for problems like the light bulb leads being corroded.

  • @singechamberlain2967
    @singechamberlain2967 5 лет назад

    Really informative video Julian - Love the way you explain things as you go.

  • @MrBBea4
    @MrBBea4 6 лет назад

    Great work as usually Julian, I too enjoy listening to you ramble as you solder. The difference between you doing it on You Tube and the rest of use tinkering in our shops is you have an audience, and are making a good living do this type of video. To all the nay-sayers out there, have you noticed that Julian has ALMOST 150,000 subscribers!!.
    And, only because "i love you".. why did you mention the "through-plating" twice... looks to me that this is a single sided board.. where is the through plating going..??...LOL... cheerio!

    • @JulianIlett
      @JulianIlett  6 лет назад

      The holes do appear to be through plated despite it being a single sided board. You can see it in the larger holes (terminal blocks) later in the video.

    • @MrBBea4
      @MrBBea4 6 лет назад

      well then, that is truly interesting, (the through plating). I do believe the through plating is performed after the holes are drilled and before the etching is done. So for the through plating to work there must have been copper on the top side of this board at one time. Seems a bit odd that the manufacturer would use double sided boards and then etch 100% of the copper off. Seems a bit waist-full..Hummm..

  • @NetworkXIII
    @NetworkXIII 6 лет назад

    For my last through-hole kit build, I held the PCB in a vice and soldered the components from the top side. Let gravity work for you, instead of against you.

  • @williamcolvin3609
    @williamcolvin3609 5 лет назад +1

    Did you get around to testing the kit - if so how did the results show for quality?

  • @Mark1024MAK
    @Mark1024MAK 6 лет назад

    I bought one of these eBay Sine Wave Audio Frequency Generators (or 1kHz oscillator).
    After building it, these were my results:-
    Supply Voltage: 12.6V
    Current consumption: 18.2mA
    Maximum AC output: 6V peak-peak (oscilloscope)
    Maximum AC output: 2.068V RMS (multimeter)(Fluke)
    Output Frequency: 1.0302kHz (frequency counter)
    Output Frequency: 1.0303kHz (multimeter)(Fluke)
    All of the above after adjusting for the best quality sine wave signal with minimum distortion (on my analogue oscilloscope).
    (Note that I borrowed my works Fluke multimeter for the frequency and RMS readings).

  • @karlng2691
    @karlng2691 6 лет назад

    Thank you so much, Julian!!! This was a very nice build. Your soldering is excellent, definitely better than me.

    • @JulianIlett
      @JulianIlett  6 лет назад

      Thanks for suggesting it - cheers :)

  • @ElmerFuddGun
    @ElmerFuddGun 6 лет назад +6

    Soft rounded leads just don't look as nice and professional as sharp bends do. Bend them all the same with sharp bends (use a tool) and then either put a small bend in them once inserted or just carefully flip the board and the table will prevent them falling out. To make it look even more professional solder tack one lead then double check that it is lying flat and then solder the other lead while applying a little pressure with your finger. Just be quick so the resistor doesn't heat up and burn your finger. If you use the lead bender tool all your resistors and diodes will be very uniform and look very professional.

    • @tinkerbot4148
      @tinkerbot4148 4 года назад

      This is a dubious process as the pad could delaminate if the solder doesn't melt fully.
      Use a small piece of heat resistant foam. Just lay it across the components and turn the whole thing over. This is also a good way to keep components flat to the board even if they are different heights.

  • @stmounts
    @stmounts 6 лет назад

    The lamp is used to stabilise the amplitude for minimum distortion. It is a positive temperature coefficient resistor in the feedback circuit, so when cold the gain is high to start oscillations, then it warms up and the amplitude settles down. These designs tend to jump around in amplitude when changing frequency.

    • @JulianIlett
      @JulianIlett  6 лет назад

      Thanks, I'll look out for that on the scope :)

    • @gkdresden
      @gkdresden Год назад

      The lamp is no amplitude stabilizer. It stabilizes the gain of the amplifier stage to a factor of 3. The amplitude of the oscillation will be at at certain point where the gain is 3 for a certain frequency. That's why there is another amplifier stage to set a certain amplitude.
      I prefer the op amp circuit of the Wien bridge oscillator. You can stabilize it very easy setting the gain a little bit more than 3 and open a parallel resistor path by use of a two anti-serially Zener diodes when the amplitude exceeds a certain voltage. The parallel resistor has a value that brings the total gain to a little bit less than 3.

  • @vm16534
    @vm16534 6 лет назад

    Julian, Please Do the Another kit Build!

  • @jayherde0
    @jayherde0 6 лет назад

    Julian, did you by chance put the 220 resistor at the bottom of the board instead of the 330? Darn blue resistors. (I love typing DARN) ... I thought another comment caught it, but it didn't. @12:07 - Of course, all rogue resistors should be 'soddered'. I think there' might be a little bit of American in you ;-)

  • @GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc
    @GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc 4 года назад

    Many schematics for sine wave generators with op amps use an incandescent light bulb in the dc feedback path to adjust the gain in the inverting input but i dont know the reason why,at least i hope all the led lighting fans out there not to find it outrageous and not ecofriendly enough.I want to make an 1KHZ sinewave oscillator for inductors measurement circuit and this circuit looks nice.

  • @raymondheath7668
    @raymondheath7668 6 лет назад

    Is the bulb the inductor in the oscilator circuit? I built this as a simple sine wave generator for bench signal for preamps and amps, I then wanted to adjust the signal frequency and amplitude so I mounted it into a little box with two external 500 ohm pots and a 9V battery. In order to adjust it I built the simple frequency meter you built and abruptly found out it's TTL level input so I also built a little preamp for the frequency meter which worked just fine. The sine wave generator would only adjust to 948Khz which is close enough and 0V to 2V output and 4.8V with the preamp for the frequency meter. Thanks for all your great vids

  • @petehiggins33
    @petehiggins33 6 лет назад

    I think you'll find that small resistors do not have copper leads, it's tin plated steel, its easy to test with a magnet. That 1N4007 on the other hand, since it has to dissipate a lot of power and remain cool probably does have copper leads. Despite the fact that it appeared to do so I don't think that the pot is supposed to change the frequency. It's to fine tune the loop gain in order to minimise distortion. To change the frequency you have to change both of the 16k resistors in the Wein bridge network. A ganged pair of pots is usually used. If you want a wider frequency range then the two capacitors are changed with a rotary switch to give frequency ranges. Then you have a general purpose sine wave signal generator that Clive Sinclair would have charged you £100 for.

    • @JulianIlett
      @JulianIlett  6 лет назад

      And will need calibrating every couple of weeks ;)

  • @hackeritalics
    @hackeritalics 6 лет назад +1

    Why are there only snooty ass faces in the comments right now? He built a kit for the hell of it and he did a fine job. He literally just thought you guys might want to come along for the ride while he has fun.

  • @danielthechskid
    @danielthechskid 6 лет назад

    Per the Spectroid app on Android the starting tone was 1025Hz

  • @noggin73
    @noggin73 6 лет назад +6

    Not sure what I hate more. Blue resistors or 'soder'.

    • @ElmerFuddGun
      @ElmerFuddGun 6 лет назад +1

      Blue resistors can definitely be hard to read depending on the manufacture. Solder, like many, many words has a silent "L". You should (another) search for "silent L".

    • @SpeccyMan
      @SpeccyMan 6 лет назад +3

      If the L is silent then why do Americans insist on pronouncing it as another D? ;)

    • @brucewoods9377
      @brucewoods9377 6 лет назад +7

      It’s only a silent “L” if you are a yank

    • @DrexProjects
      @DrexProjects 6 лет назад +5

      Silent letters are a waste of letters. Just leave them out. Simplify things. I'm starting a Crusade to ban silent letters. OMG, the vodka just hit me.

    • @Okurka.
      @Okurka. 6 лет назад

      'You should (another) search for "silent L".'
      You accidentally a word.

  • @Sheevlord
    @Sheevlord 6 лет назад +3

    These days cheap resistors come with steel legs instead of copper. Use a magnet to see for yourself.

  • @squalazzo
    @squalazzo 6 лет назад +2

    why they moved from the light-brown-ish color to the cyan one for resistors? They're very hard to read!

    • @tamtgirl
      @tamtgirl 6 лет назад +6

      the blue-er ones a metalized film, the brown ones care carbon film

    • @DrexProjects
      @DrexProjects 6 лет назад +2

      Tolerance is different. 1or 2%.

    • @Roy_Tellason
      @Roy_Tellason 5 лет назад

      Blue resistor body is an indication of "flameproof".

  • @featheredskeptic1301
    @featheredskeptic1301 6 лет назад

    The lamp shouldn't be glowing. It's a Wein bridge oscillator. The lamp is the "tank circuit" of sorts. Heating and cooling the filament causes a change of the resistance of the lamp, this changes the voltage drop that is controlling the current through the lamp and that's how the thing oscillates. In order to achieve this effect it's not needed to push high amount of current through the lamp and have it glow.

  • @chrisbrinzo
    @chrisbrinzo 6 лет назад

    Switch to a brass wire tip cleaner and extend your solder tip's lifespan.

  • @NNNILabs
    @NNNILabs 6 лет назад +2

    Nice, now just hook up a foot switch and a large speaker and you have a RUclips rated censor beep machine!

  • @nishiter
    @nishiter 6 лет назад +1

    Are you permanently promoting JLCPCB?

  • @edmclaughlin4923
    @edmclaughlin4923 6 лет назад

    Twiddle the Pot? May I use that?

  • @Roy_Tellason
    @Roy_Tellason 5 лет назад

    As quick as that iron heats up, you wasted a good bit of your battery power doing things the way you did. I'd have put all of the resistors and the diodes in at once, then fired it up and soldered it, turning it off at that point. But attention to detail when it comes to this stuff is a good thing! BTW, the proper term for the function of that 9013 transistor is "buffer", so you're not loading the oscillator circuit with whatever you connect to the output. And, it's quite normal not to see any visible indication in the light bulb when one is used in these circuits. Disconnecting one end of the bulb from the board and measuring the current will show you why, it's a LOT less than the bulb's typical operating current.

    • @SpeccyMan
      @SpeccyMan 2 года назад

      One component at a time is less prone to mistakes. However, I use a standard soldering iron for my kit builds.

  • @TKomoski
    @TKomoski 6 лет назад +3

    For a man that may have everything i might suggest this "Component Lead Bending Tool"

    • @Okurka.
      @Okurka. 6 лет назад +1

      Right, just 3D print one.
      www.thingiverse.com/thing:1022337

    • @TKomoski
      @TKomoski 6 лет назад

      That's the ticket why buy one.

    • @webchimp
      @webchimp 6 лет назад +2

      Because they cost £3-£4 and I don't have a 3D printer

  • @AndreasA.S.
    @AndreasA.S. 6 лет назад

    this is why i use my tranny tester when building these kits. the first tranny tester took a bit longer to build because of the need to slowly use my DMM for every "rebel can".
    have you made a JYETech DSO, its a fun build and i think a great option for youtubers doing these things. half my desk has these kits. just made a multi function generator this week.

    • @SpeccyMan
      @SpeccyMan 2 года назад

      He has and he made a video about it.

  • @kirkb4989
    @kirkb4989 6 лет назад

    Where did you get that wonderful portable soldering stand?!??

    • @JulianIlett
      @JulianIlett  6 лет назад

      It came with the TS100 iron :)

    • @kirkb4989
      @kirkb4989 6 лет назад +1

      Pricy way to get one then!! I like the looks of the TS100, just not the price so much.

    • @Roy_Tellason
      @Roy_Tellason 5 лет назад

      You can buy just the stand at banggood.com...

  • @vm16534
    @vm16534 6 лет назад

    Julian, Can you use electrolytic capacitors? Can you use them for your projects? Please!!

    • @JulianIlett
      @JulianIlett  6 лет назад +2

      Why?

    • @vm16534
      @vm16534 6 лет назад

      I don't really like tantalum capacitors cause it's yellow and it doesn't look simulator to my capacitors... Can you get use to electrolytic capacitors?

    • @vm16534
      @vm16534 6 лет назад

      Cause tantalum doesn't look right for my projects... Electrolytic capacitors come 100,000 values and seem good... Can you use them? If not, I'll unsubscribe! USE IT!

    • @vm16534
      @vm16534 6 лет назад

      One question, You like tantalum cause it's small better then electrolytic? Cause it's HUGE!? SIZE OF YOU'R HOUSE!!?? YOU HATE IT?! Just use it please julian!! Just for now!!! :(

  • @massimookissed1023
    @massimookissed1023 6 лет назад +3

    Well, if it stops you "singing", it was worth every ¥uan.

    • @KX36
      @KX36 6 лет назад

      How does this comment not have a thousand thumbs up.

  • @bradishear9369
    @bradishear9369 6 лет назад

    Handy iron. Where did you get it & brand name?

    • @faridwakim
      @faridwakim 6 лет назад

      BRAD IsHear its a ts100, super good and portable soldering iron, the only downside is the price (around 60 dollars)

  • @vm16534
    @vm16534 6 лет назад

    If not, buy it! And use it for your projects :)

  • @jimix321
    @jimix321 6 лет назад +6

    I love watching the video and leaving before the first hater arrives.

  • @partypillz3268
    @partypillz3268 6 лет назад

    What is a sine wave

  • @reeseyme9613
    @reeseyme9613 6 лет назад

    i see they used DaveCAD for this designed

  • @janekkivisild5326
    @janekkivisild5326 6 лет назад +1

    If the legs are from copper, why they stick to the magnet?

    • @thulinp
      @thulinp 6 лет назад +1

      yeah... from china resistor leads are rarely copper these days.

  • @chrismoen5853
    @chrismoen5853 6 лет назад

    Love it, Julian! You give good tutorials when you build/test simple little kits like this. I follow all your videos.

  • @kychemclass5850
    @kychemclass5850 2 года назад +1

    I HATE blue background resistors!! - So hard to see the colours properly.
    I much prefer the ocre/tan coloured ones.

  • @johnarmstrong3782
    @johnarmstrong3782 6 лет назад

    Enjoyed the vid! Back to basics. Why has there been a switch to these impossible to read blue metal film resistors from the carbon type? Are they cheaper, more reliable or what? I don’t like them.

    • @fersunk
      @fersunk 6 лет назад

      John Armstrong the metal film resistors are 1% tolerance, they are suited for high voltage and they don't frigging burst into flames if they are tortured by an excessive amount of current.
      They used to be more expensive than the carbon ones, but nowadays they cost about the same

    • @johnarmstrong3782
      @johnarmstrong3782 6 лет назад

      fersunk Ah! Appreciate the reply.

  • @camilomason4560
    @camilomason4560 6 лет назад +2

    Why doesn't he just bend the leads on the other side

    • @Okurka.
      @Okurka. 6 лет назад +1

      Because that's wrong.

    • @KX36
      @KX36 6 лет назад +1

      Because Julian

  • @Zuggy
    @Zuggy 6 лет назад

    The hand drawn circuit diagram makes me think this was someone's personal project they posted on the internet and it got ripped off by a Chinese electronics manufacturer to sell on eBay.

  • @einefrage3518
    @einefrage3518 6 лет назад +1

    Lamp is used for amplitude stabilisation , it will never light !!

  • @AK90
    @AK90 6 лет назад

    I still need to put my DSO138 oscilloscope together that I bought several months ago :P

    • @lint2023
      @lint2023 6 лет назад

      Mine works but the solder joints look atrocious. Maybe get a flux pen and hopefully yours will look better than mine.

    • @webchimp
      @webchimp 6 лет назад

      Need to get around to doing mine as well

  • @foundatlantis
    @foundatlantis 6 лет назад

    i watch this at 1.5x

  • @samuelthorogood3878
    @samuelthorogood3878 6 лет назад

    it was certainly 1k

  • @lingcod91
    @lingcod91 4 года назад

    Have you tried your Links, they don't work. Not for me anyway. Is there some secret ? What is it ?

  • @lingcod91
    @lingcod91 4 года назад

    I assume you include Links so people can see were to buy the items. Ebay doesn't know anything about the Links you provide. What gives ?

  • @vm16534
    @vm16534 6 лет назад

    You hate electrolytic? Cause it's HUGE??!! PLEASE use it!! :( HELP!!

  • @KX36
    @KX36 6 лет назад

    Who wants to watch videos of other people soldering a kit for 20 minutes? This is like watching BBC4

    • @JulianIlett
      @JulianIlett  6 лет назад +3

      My favourite TV channel :)

    • @KX36
      @KX36 6 лет назад +2

      Well yes, who wouldn't want to watch 2 hours of real time unedited footage from the front of a bus or tune in every week to a Scandinavian "drama" series of bleak, washed out, grey tones and absolutely nothing happening.
      ... I suppose when the alternative is Love Island it's not so bad.

    • @miftosaurus
      @miftosaurus 5 лет назад

      @@KX36 "The Last of Summer Wine"! :)

    • @emil-9432
      @emil-9432 5 лет назад

      If you tap on the video once, you’ll get a thin line on the bottom of the video. Yo will see also a small red circle. The small red circle represents current position in the video. As the video plays, the red circle moves along the thin line. Little known trick is clicking or, if you are on a touch enabled device, tapping on the little red circle and moving it to any position. In essence, as you do so you can achieve what in the era of cassette equipment was referred to as “fast forwarding”.

  • @steveroberts3512
    @steveroberts3512 6 лет назад

    Hiya Julian - check out Jeri Ellsworth's 5 minute video demonstrating how useful a bulb is for linearity : ruclips.net/video/vBsSASge7ls/видео.html
    Cheers.

  • @bexpi7100
    @bexpi7100 6 лет назад

    As an American (who generally says "soder" [and knows it's wrong]) I'm feeling quite mocked by the emphasis on the "L" and the funny voice while saying "soder."
    However, there are no hurt feelings here.

  • @kissingfrogs
    @kissingfrogs 6 лет назад

    I dont think they see or hear the L

  • @bzoli5706
    @bzoli5706 6 лет назад +5

    That video was awful, and I sadly noticed that you never heard about the Wien-bridge oscillator, which is a basic electric circuit in any electrical school, and about the negative feedback stabilization with a nonlinear bulb. It has much less than a Volt on it, so please don't wonder that it is dark. And the real time assembling with this ridiculous Bluetack technique was very boring even if I set the double speed. BTW this is one of the best type of sine wave oscillators. Try to measure the distortion if you have any equipment for that.

    • @daverhodes382
      @daverhodes382 6 лет назад +5

      bzoli5706
      And yet you watched it?

    • @airwood99
      @airwood99 6 лет назад +1

      I think he was teasing us about the bulb not lighting up, typical English humour I'm afraid....

    • @hammershigh
      @hammershigh 6 лет назад

      I totally agree but what did you expect? The guy has never been taught anything, thats why he can't teach anything. And thats why he has no knowledge about the Wien-bridge oscillator, let alone negative feedback stabilization.

  • @amithyedavalli7491
    @amithyedavalli7491 6 лет назад

    hi