God of Justice & Mercy | Jared Longshore, Tom Ascol, Virgil Walker, Darrell Harrison, Voddie Baucham
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2021
- The depravity of the human race has been blatantly displayed in every place throughout all of history. The Apostle Paul was clearly right when he said, “None is righteous, no, not one” (Romans 3:10).
This truth is illustrated every day. We see riots in the streets, corruption in government, perversion in marriage, and then, of course, there is plenty of sin remaining in our very own flesh. The Reformer, John Calvin, taught that such things should turn our gaze to God. He wrote, “Indeed, our very poverty better discloses the infinitude of benefits reposing in God. The miserable ruin, into which the rebellion of the first man cast us, especially compels us to look upward.”
We have all sorts of trouble down here because we have neglected to look up there. We are made in the image of God. But many have forgotten God, leaving the phrase “image of God” meaningless. Now is a time to know God and worship Him. Calvin also said, “Nearly all the wisdom we possess, that is to say, true and sound wisdom, consists of two parts: the knowledge of God and of ourselves.” Man no longer knows himself. But there is no way to rediscover the truth about man without first coming to a true knowledge of God.
This panel discussion with Jared Longshore, Tom Ascol, Virgil Walker, Darrell Harrison & Voddie Baucham was held on January 22, 2021 at the Founders "The Only God" national conference in Southwest Florida.
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Laws exist to protect sinners from other sinners! I never heard that before. Good stuff
Well, consider the Bible calls sin "Lawlessness", but what Law is it referring to?
Remember your history
God amen You are the God of Justice and Mercy. Your Word of Truth stands forever! Thank you for men of God who love You and Your Bible the Word of Truth. Thank you for Jesus Christ He is all that we need. 🙏🥰
Biblically, truthfully, and respectfully said. Thank you all for being the courageous men and Good Shepherds that God has called you to do. Your words minister life to the body as it should be! Yes we are in dangerous times but our God will not lose!
Darrell Harrison's of Solomon is very good. The long and short is our society, culture, civilization simply cannot have justice without CHRIST.
Amazing talk. Phenomenal.
Praise God for each one of you men👍👍👍👏👏❤
Yes, yes, yes! Amen, thank you brothers for your continued bold stand on the truth and grace of the gospel of Christ
"We're dealing with 2 particular world views." Yes! Yes! Yes! We're dealing with an outcome based construct.1 Kings 3 Biblical equity in action. Justice is based on objective truth--equity is getting to the TRUTH regardless of the outcome.
Mercy! Bingo, it requires people to see what they deserve. Doesn't matter skin tone, for all have sinned and fallen short. EVERYONE
Exactly! God desires mercy above all things, maybe we should start showing it more as an example of the way to live life as Jesus did. An example is the teaching of the good Samaritan. Let's let unbelievers see for themselves through the fruit of the spirit how merciful and loving our God really is.
Thank you for your work.
Love all you men thank you for so carefully and yet boldly proclaiming God’s word.
"That he may be BOTH just AND the justifier" of mankind. A great paradoxical mystery of God, and the necessity behind the Cross: this is WHY we preach the Christian Faith.
Justice no longer has an "objective" standard because "we" have largely redefined justice rather than submitting to the only eternal source for defining justice given to us...God's instructions. We cannot have true justice in this world absent of the only one who has the authority and righteousness to define it. When we let fallen people define justice (even out church pastors, and doctrinal theology) it will always lead to abuse and injustice.
'You shall do no injustice in judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor nor defer to the great, but you are to judge your neighbor fairly. - Leviticus 19:15 NASB95
Everyone; poor or great must learn to walk before the LORD Face to face- regardless of his social status- God is fantastic in His Creativity- the Poor & Great can both walk before God Most High- through their union with Christ; and both can be satisfied in Him.
Social Justice where the government grants your reward is a perverted notion of God's Grace.
This should have so many more views.I’ll be contacting the Institute of Public Theology again.This is the only ministry I’ve seen that’s handling the social climate with an accurate thermometer and not being poisoned by its mercury;My Pastor is seeking to get me to consider some other theological schools to go to but I’m leaning toward being unequivocally sold on Founders.
Brethren please pray,if this is God’s will for me,that I will have the finances to take care of the cost.I’ve counted the cost and it’s only approximately 20,000 over 3 years.I know it’s possible,and I’m trusting God for it.I appreciate this ministry so much and it is a focused inferno of a desire for me to be a full time student so that my coming ministry will hit the ground running with sound doctrine,applicable to today’s issues.This will enable me to be an apparatus to pull people from the flames that will never be quenched.
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Any person should be able to walk anywhere they want to including Trayvon and Ahmaud and others!!!
Micah 6:8 Do justice, love mercy, walk humbly with your God. Pretty succinct from the word of God.
Excellent!
Kendi has employed Jemar Tisby who worked for Lig Duncan at RTS Jackson and who is very popular in the PCA and the SBC.
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"Critical race theory is merciless!" Yes it is.
Critical Theory and it many byproduct is simple Idolatry. 🧠🕯🙏✝️🔥🛐🤲💡💔
Yeah that is right let us add what happened in 1787 when the Calvinistic believers did not stand up an protest this issue. That some of God children were not equal. God children were not even allowed to pray in your churches.
POWERFUL. IVE COMMENTING FOR A WHILE NOW. THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE THE HUMAN RACE. WE ADAPT TO OUR BIOLOGICAL ENVIRONMENT THROUGH THE AGES. NOAH 3 sons THEIR OFFSPRINGS MIGRATED AND SO YOU HAVE US. THE WORD OF OUR CREATOR THE ONLY TRUTH THE ONLY WAY THE ONLY LIFE... I will NOT ACCEPT ANY OTHER THEOLOGY NOT EVEN IF ANGELS CAME TO ME WITH SUCH. WHY? Well because the WORD tells me so.
Looking at the numbers when did reform theology start to see Black folks as equal 🤔 what year i wonder. How about 1787 though 2021 pick a year.
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Wondering if voddie Baucham would be considered for John McArthur position .
Is this Voddie's first appearance since his surgery?
I think this was back at the end of January-so before all the issues.
Thanks for bursting our bubbles. 🙂 It's all good. The Lord is in absolute control.
Vodie is doing better from my understanding
Doctrines of devil's! there is no doubt. It is true, the preaching of the gospel is the only answer.
The courage needed is to live and proclaim the truth of the word without fear in the power of the Holy Ghost
I can't help but notice the shading from white to dark white to light brown to brown to deep brown.
I have trouble understanding the equality v equity debate. Can someone clarify? I don’t see how there can be equality if everyone is inherently born different. I also don’t understand why equity is a racial issue instead of a socioeconomic one. I don’t think anyone can object to the concept that there is an equality disparity among persons of different socioeconomic backgrounds. Children born to educated, middle to upper class, especially the wealthy or ultra-elite have starting point advantages over those born into indigent, uneducated, disjointed, etc. etc. families and communities. I do not think that someone should be given “special” treatment to mitigate this disparity; however, how can they overcome “check-box” silent or overt discrimination that denies them access and opportunity? I agree that all of this falls under the umbrella of human depravity, so why is it wrong to fight this injustice that occurs? To stand-up for and support them. Biblically, one might consider the widows, orphans, and the poor. Are we not called to close such disparity gap, inequality, by caring for them? And to circle back to racism … yes that’s exists because sin exists, but it’s not unidirectional. I know plenty of “minorities” who hate white people for being white. White people who aren’t racist… who may be the actual minority in a given group. I can also attest that if I say inequality is a socioeconomic issue, this offends other races. Why? Appreciate any comments. And special thanks to all those who bless us with Founders Ministry ❤
The church embracing social justice was not the reason for the paucity of mercy ministries. It was retreatist pietism, and government taking over mercy ministries that preceded and paved the way for the embracing of social justice. Outsourcing our mercy ministries to political organizations has resulted in a pragmatic, compromised worldview regarding many issues. Hopefully the institute of public theology understands this. A perfect example is abolition vs incrementalism, "pro-life" work devoid of the gospel, and the apathy of the church regarding the abortion holocaust.
Justice doesn't mean that each party gets the outcome that they deserve? Uummmm that is exactly what justice is, that's why the liar went home without the other woman's baby! The true mother was vindicated, this guy was on the right track but then he slipped 😣
Read pretty sure that was word vomit accident on ending his point. Train of thought was there and clear.
I think he meant desire
I think he meant desire, not deserve
I didn’t understand this example either. Then again, I’m trying to understand overall.
The Mosaic law (Torah - Law of YHWH given to Moshe) was instituted to create an environment of justice and equity regardless one’s willingness, in other words it was not based on one’s objective views. The entire codified law of YHWH can be summarised into three concepts:
*Protective
*Restorative
*Retributive
Biblical concepts of justice and mercy exists within these parameters. YHWH’s expectations of mercy is clearly demonstrated and can be seen in the parable the Good Samaritan (i.e. who is my neighbor).
My view of this discussion is that it took a particular narrow view of seeking to maintain the “Conservative Christianity” statues quo, failure of the church to address the issue of the existence of racism not just on biblical perspective but on the pragmatic basis amounts to it being passive on this divisive topic. Perhaps the panellist (especially our black brothers) were hand picked to paddle this naive view point.
For a legitimate discussion to address and correct issue of racism even within the theological circles, bring those who hold true the views of corrective & restorative justice to the table, than we will have a proper discussion, not this one sided view which seeks to appease a section of the body of Christ.
Well said!
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Nice panel, you only need two of them. They are all trying to raise the same point. Your not trying to agree or see when it's like that.
At the end of this clip was said that 40% of blacks makes up the incarcerated population while blacks are only 13% of the total population of USA. This as seen being injustice! Then it was equated to 40% of blacks in the general population of USA that contribute to abortions in the country. This pastor combined the two as being injustices...I don't think they can be put into the same boat from the point of argument in relation to injustices to black people even as you could implement them biblically. You can't argue these in a combination form. So, so wrong here my friends. One is different from the other in all honesty. They speak big words and yet their minds are tiny....
The point, if I can understand correctly is that the black community is oppressed on all sorts of ways. Much of that is its own doing. But this happens with the breakdown of the black family. Which has far higher divorce rates or worse never marrying at all. Are they all connected? Of course they are men who get arrested, may have already forced their girl to have an abortion, which then shows that they are not a unified family. And if she doesn't have an abortion but has the baby, she may have an abortion later or have already had an abortion. The point is the man is locked up she's killed her baby and they're not married in a single family with the parents and children living all together.
Thank You Calvinistic believers for your help with the process of mercy justice ⚖ and slavery. If you didn't fight it you supported it jim crow segregation what is the fruit from all this. Mercy forgiveness yep that's it yall welcome 🙏
Smh re your remarks about the Trayvon Martin case. The courts don't always get it right as you assume. The justice system is flawed because humans are flawed. Apart from Christ, we are sinful with implicit bias, hatred etc. Very shallow argument.
I agree with you 💯 but remember they're getting paid for this.