Everyone constantly saying "just stretch and you'll get there" made me feel like I'm either the worlds worst guitarist or I have the smallest hands to ever attempt guitar. Thanks for actually saying "No, you can't do that. Let it go" so I can move on and focus on other things instead.
I measured my middle finger on the inside, less than 3.5 inches. I've tried to play classical guitar with much frustration. I used to able to play Lagrima and few other pieces but now I forget them all due to wrists issues. I still play the guitar and I'm thinking of relearn those pieces.
SO reassuring to have some sense spoken on this subject. I didn't even know I had small hands until I started practicing the classic A minor pentatonic scale and couldn't understand why the RUclips experts seemed to reach that 8th fret on the low E string so effortlessly with their pinky finger while I struggled (and still do). Thanks for demonstrating it can be overcome and it's just part of the journey.
As a new guitar player with smaller hands, this is a wrist saver tutorial. I have been searching videos on how to cure wrist pain and then fell upon your great video and how not to get it in the first place. Nearly all guitar videos show you how to play stuff without details like this. I now know that wrist pain is bad, shouldn't happen,and not something to work through and shall adjust the play style that everyone online seems to think I should have. Can't thank you enough. Subscribed! 😁
As a beginner with very strong but small hands, this video is gold. I would get annoyed with people in other videos not covering the reality that long fingered players have it much easier, it's not about strength. I also thought about trading in my guitar for a 3/4 so this is some great information to guide me for my next purchase when it may be. Thank you sir, cheers!
I've tried all sorts of smaller guitars, and find that many 3/4-type guitars do NOT have necks and fretboards designed for small-hands. Always personally try an instrument before buying!
The same reason I play Ibanez exclusively now. I had also considered moving to a 7/8 scale before I found the benefits of the Ibanez Wizard necks. Good pointers.
Thanks so much for telling me it’s O.K. to play the alternate chords. I have the exact same problem with my ring finger not letting my pinky hit the string.
You're welcome! The irony is that the "traditional" fingering for an F Major chord (just to use one example), isn't even close voicing, unless you skip the 2 low strings and just play FACF (1351) on the top 4 strings - which then makes the chord easy!
I was fortunate to attend several Guitar Craft (Robert Fripp) seminars and the way we were taught to hold and approach the guitar changed my playing style completely, no i have no tension or aches and although the guitar sits very high, it serves me well
First off, a disclaimer: I have large hands. Secondly, and most importantly thank you. I’ve just started guitar lessons at almost 50 and was struggling with a blues shuffle trying to figure out how my also large handed instructor could stretch the frets and I couldn’t. My hands are even longer than his. My wrist is sore and aching, my fingers were cramping and he said it would come in time. Well that time was after I watched your video. I’ve been stretching and exercising my fingers for a week and a half trying to stretch the frets. I’ve watched 20plus videos and yours showed me in 12 mins. I still have some muscle memory to work on to hit it cleanly and consistently but I can now. Thank you again. I know I’m in the minority here, as a knuckle dragging monster, but I think every new guitarist should have this lesson. So for all my basketball palming brothers that come across your video, your awesome. Subscribed.
Thank you so much, this was really helpful! My hands are even smaller than yours, by a centimeter or more on every finger. I’ve struggled so much with guitar and even piano because I physically can’t play the way it seems like everyone else does. My notes always end up out of tune because I’m either pressing too hard or can’t reach the string at all. I think I’m gonna have to bite the bullet and get a 3/4 guitar, so I can learn without being in pain.
You're very welcome! Yes, 3/4 guitars are definitely a solution. I've heard many great things about the Fender Jag, but never managed to pull the trigger on one myself.
My pinky is 1-7/8 inches. Tip of the thumb to tip of the index finger in a C shape is less than 7 inches. Fingers splayed, tip of the index to tip of the pinky is 5.5 inches. My fingers are tiny, and I do mean tiny. My pinky wears a baby's size 1 ring. I'm 56, so I don't expect a growth spurt in my future either. After much research, I got myself a Squier Mini-Strat - 3/4 size guitar, short scale (22.5 inches) - to learn on. Let them laugh at me. I can make chords, so I'm good. I can just never have what they would call a "real" guitar, not off a shelf anyway. One of those beauty Gibson guitars on my wall just isn't going to happen, ever. BUT, when I've earned it, I just might have a guitar custom built with all the bells and whistles... in 3/4 short scale, no skimping on craftsmanship or components... and with a tremolo to boot. I will want it to be a tiny beast of a music machine, the one great guitar of my life. I will call it The Baby. The industry should consider all shapes and sizes of adults. It doesn't. And most of the time, the instruments made for "kids" are not quality, rather bare bones and with the cheapest of everything, including finish. When I can finally play well, I will want an instrument I can be proud of, one that no one will have any grounds to laugh at. Then, let them whine that they can't play it... because their ape hands are too big.
(Acoustic player) Yes. I'm constantly looking for an instrument (sometimes 3/4) with a thin neck profile, narrow nut width, well-rounded fretboard radius, etc., and most are low-quality "student" models. In one case I had a luthier "slenderize" the neck, and that helped. Agree, guitar makers are missing a big market.
I have pretty much the exact same hand shape as you. As a very new player I was really struggling. I stumbled onto what appears to be an acceptable guitar (Ibanez ASEZ31, 42mm nut 25" scale), which was just outright lucky. I've been asking around about hand position etc and nobody has been able to offer help until your video. Thank you, sir.
Ergonomics are so important. I'm missing my index on my right hand and I'm a lefty. Unfortunately, I have sausage fingers too! Been 2yrs just to learn about 8 chords now. Never say never! Thank you for this as it's very helpful in regards to learning guitar 🎸 👍
This is incredible i figured out the twisting of the wrist by my own but the rest i had no clue. I feel like i stumbled on to some sacred knowledge. Thank you so much
As a beginner I was getting discouraged because I have short thick fingers and I literally couldn’t play some chords because it would hurt and all these other RUclipsrs made it sound like hand size isn’t an issue but I’m glad I found this video and I wasn’t crazy keeps me motivated to play guitar
What a wonderful lesson. I've been messing around for 9 months or so and can play several rock solos. Not always up to speed and sometimes not perfect but I feel good about where I'm at right now. My issues are chord changes and Barre chords. I really appreciate this lesson because my hands are basically the same siz3 as yours. I got a fender strat for my bday. Hopefully it's ok for my hand size. Thanks again!!
Thanks for a great video I subscribed immediately. I have just gotten my first guitar at the age of 60 ( it’s an itch that had to be scratched) .. Never played a note in my life .. I can tell you I measured my hands against your dimensions and I’m only just a little 10mm bigger .. I just can’t seem to get my digits in the right place without touching other strings and my wrist is bloody killing me .. But anyway..thanks and keep up the good work.
You're welcome, and thanks for the support! It's surprising how small changes in position relative to your body can have a dramatic effect on your ability to fret properly. Try adjusting your strap to various heights and changing the neck angle to see if anything helps. I made a video discussing playing chords which might help too: ruclips.net/video/oszsk1zk_R8/видео.html
Thanks. For acoustic players, another problem with small hands is simply less fingering strength when that's needed for barres. Also note, it helps to have a very well-rounded fretboard radius, as opposed to flat. Many manufacturers don't even give radius specs.
Anthony, I first thought '20 minutes?' Too long. But I couldn't turn it off... I was learning more from you than from the other videos I had watched. Focusing on the guitar and its attributes taught me so much, rather than all about finger positioning. Your video will make my finger positioning lessons more easily accommodated. I actually sat my 3/4 guitar down and just watched and listened to you, several times. I can't believe how useful this video is for me, learning about my arm, wrist, and body posture; it was unique. I understand my guitar better now. Thank you so much!
Really great video! Hand size/shape %100 makes a difference. I wear XL gloves because I have large palms, but my fingers - and especially my thumb - are pretty short. Tips like this are so important, because small hands do cause issues, but most of those issues are solvable with the right technique! If you’re struggling, keep tweaking things, you can find the sweet spots!
Great stuff! I had to give up playing for years as I suffered from DupuytrensSyndrome - an operation has alowed me to get back on the guitar, but with much less hand span. Thankfully, I have a couple of 24in guitars - Jaguar and Mustang which helps.
Very comprehensive tutorial...my hands are exactly the same size as yours according to the dimensions on your thumbnail. What makes things a bit more complicated for me is that I'm left-handed....so the choice of guitars with the right conditions to accommodate small hands is somewhat limited. I play a Les Paul Tribute which seems to fit but I intend on searching for one that is even more suitable. Your video was very helpful....thank you!
Thanks for this video. My limitations really hit me hard when I realised I couldn’t play the song that inspired me to buy a guitar. Orion by Metallica. I simply cannot stretch my fingers or curl them enough to play the inverted power chords with out muting other strings
You're welcome. yeah, it's a bummer when a physical limitation is the issue. It's a pretty hard stop. My solution when I can't play something "properly" is to start dropping notes until I can. Sometimes it's surprising how whole notes can be omitted and it still sound good - particularly bass notes if they're mirrored by the bass player.
Some good points and tips, thanks. My hands are very similar size to yourself and I manage most things OK, except those 4 / 5 fret "jazz" type chords. I also observe that some players with big hands must have trouble isolating one string and fret with their sausage fingers. We all have challenges!
Many thanks for your feedback, I'm glad you found the video useful. I agree - there's an element of horses for courses, but I must confess I wish my hands were at least a bit bigger than they are :) I remember buying the Van Halen 5150 songbook many years ago and quickly realising (for many reasons, actually) that I'd just wasted my money ;)
Okay, my hand's are even a bit shorter then your'es wich look's a bit odd cause i'm not small, i'm 1.78cm tall... My thumb is 5.5cm and my middle finger is 7cm, the Index 6.5cm but also my fingertip's are very chubby and the callus doesn't help here... Happen's that a string get's unwanted mute because of ringfinger is touching it if i wanna fret a string above, just like in your'e example... To get around that i always try to curve my hand as far i can over the frettboard to press vertical on the strings and not in an angle where my tip's tending to touch the neighbour string's... I wondered why it look's so odd when i film myself playing compared to other players but then i noticed how short my finger's look compared to them and i knew what was going on...😮 Only benefit i have is good mobilty in my joint's so my hand span on the desk can be up to 19.5cm but then there is nearly no space left and the index is parallel to the desk...😅 I know why i love my ibanez Xiphos and my Schecter E1 sls elite with an even thinner neck... It's called ultra thin C and is maybe thinner then the ibanez wizard neck's but i don't know for sure... The fret's are XL jumbo but it's the ergonomicly best playing neck i ever tried, the body is another thing tho...🙄 At the end i struggle with whrist pain all the time because i play really a lot... But guess what: i will try out a baritone soon...😅
I'm probably not the first to mention Strandberg and the ergonomics built into those guitars, I have small hands and have been coping with an American Strat I bought new in 1979 all my adult life. The neck is pretty huge, and as I get older and the stretch in my left hand diminishes, I'm on the hunt for something both lighter and more suited to my physicality. I shall be trying out the Strandbergs along with some Ibanez models and , I've heard, some Schecter models too are very small hand friendly. Excellent video.
That was really inspiring! I have hands about the same size, and the F Chord in particular has been impossible, even on my current fave a Taylor GS Mini. Your tips on posture were on point too, I will now play with strap even sitting down. Subcribed!
I got the same problem. Very nice video from the person who knows how it is in real. Recently I bought Squier sonic mustang, low budget guitar but well made for the price, 24 inch scale length. The neck is a bit thicker than in my Yamaha 312( very slim ) , but feels awesome and my picking hand feels more comfortable. Palm muting is more natural , my hand feels in more natural position. You can check Squire bullet mustang, and other short scale guitars. Make a difference in my opinion. Regards Matt.
I've played (but not owned) a Mustang, and it did feel great to play. In this particular video I was approaching the subject from the perspective of playing a regular scale guitar, but I completely agree that buying a short scale is a great way to navigate the issue.
Thanks for this! My fingers are just a few mm longer than yours, but quite thick. I've been playing on and off for 15 years but kept giving up because I just couldn’t do things that people kept saying I could if I kept stretching my hands etc. This video has renewed my optimism and got me fired up to keep playing!
Although I definitely see that this video is meant well, I think it's a bit overly pessimistic. I got pretty much the exact fingers dimensions as you do but have over time developed flexibility and strength to play with my thumb over just fine. Being careful about hurting your hands is important, but identifying with challenges can stunt progress on the instrument. Cheers
30+ years ago a friend whom collected Kay's, Harmony's, Stella's showed me a guitar...can't remember the brand...that had the neck at the nut the same dimension all the way down to the pick up. There was no gradual increase in the width. The guitar was surprisingly easy to play. I haven't seen one since. Thanks for the video. I myself had Dunning/Kruger growing up and thought I was a guitar player. I still play the guitar daily though after all these years.
I can completely relate, I actually carved a custom endure neck (Standberg endureneck I mean) style neck in one of my headless guitars. It’s like a pillow for your thumb seriously ✈️ And my playing started taking off like a jet!! Even though I have small hands. It was so frustrating before, only a charvel smaller neck was comfortable for me. Honestly I thought I couldn’t play but it was a matter of finding the right neck profile. 🥂
I have large hands but I've never taken advantage of the thumb over the top, plays bass note position. Great advice for guitar players of all sizes. 🎸👍
Thank God for you!!!! My hands and fingers are almost the same size as yours and I have been having the worst time. Though well meaning the people with long fingers just don't get it. This is tremendously helpful. Thanks Again!!!
my hands are about 1 cm shorter for each finger and after many months of practice, i am actually able to play those Hendrix thumb chords. it felt very impossible at first but recently it got much easier. (i also have a clubbed thumb which does not help)
My first finger to thumb curvature length is only 16.5cm, and my pinky is only 5 cm! I have to say I cannot get the barre chord trick of pulling back with the fretting hand to work at all, I've tried over and over. I am really appreciative of this insight from someone who ACTUALLY has small hands. Great suggestions and I'll put them to use for sure. Thanks!
I've got smaller hands. And I've broken my left thumb and hand several times. I have to constantly keep this in mind (subconsciously) and I'm always trying new chord positions and voicing to compromise or make things work. I try to make it part of my sound/style and it works alot of times. But there are certain things I have to work out first before just jamming, and that's my favorite way to play...just free jamming. After awhile I figure out where I need to go instead of my 1st or 2nd thought, but it does take extra work/practice...just putting the time in, seeing what does or doesn't work and fixing mistakes. It is a PIA. But I have to hope it makes me better in the long run. Also, I am constantly thinking of guitar specs. Trying to figure out what the optimal neck is that I can find out there. I really want to make my own. Maybe someday. Mustangs and shorter scales are cool but not always. I'd love a 24¼" scale neck...but they don't exist and I can't afford to find someone to make it for me. Someday, maybe... I currently play alot of PRS guitars. An old 94 CE24, a Vela and an SE Hollowbody II (bigger neck, but somehow very easy to play). I have a SG w P90's that has a thin flat D neck I like but need more playing time on. A 24¾" 24 fret Ric style guitar with a great neck that needs a little bit of setup work and I'd like a new bridge for. I have a Silversky that is really nice but I'm just not able to play for very long. An original Reverend Billy Corgan signature that I love so much, except for the 25½ scale....I'm turning that into a baritone essentially...like Ariel Posen does with his Mulecaster tuned to B with 17s. I feel your pain. I'd really love to design and build instruments that cater to people like us one day. I'm a tech and builder, and if I just could find someone to help design an optimal neck shape and scale length that's not traditional I'd certainly build it. People don't think so bit, there's a big difference between 24.5" and 24" scale lengths and I'd like to try and split that difference, and shape the neck in a way that a hand our size cradles the neck comfortably and easily.
You're collection puts mine to shame! Amazingly, I've never played a Mustang (there's one in a local shop that I'm looking forward to trying soon). Building your own bespoke guitar, though... that's next level :)
Your specs reflect my own musical & lutherian journey 24.5" is the sweet spot & something that took years to bring into fruition but I use my thumb & also realized on the evolving journey its really fundamentally technique at play where fretboard radius & neck radius profile also optimize the thumb technique ability & where you put your palm etc that can make you play like King Jimi here's proof ruclips.net/video/qb0zilL7xVs/видео.html I have a small hand/fingers but your comments were very close to home. that guitar in the vid is my 1st prototype years ago & started with 24'" but find it to shorter scale I also explored thinner nut width but really its technique & neck profile ultimately & practice Hopefully you realize your dream axe as there really is nothing better in this world than something you've created to your exclusive specs. I'm gonna do another build soon but yeh I'm all the way down under Australia. 24.5 (622mm) is not really much difference to Gibson scale now usually 24 5/8" to 24 3/4" (625 to 628mm) but they are usually thick baseball bat necks & worse if they have binding any other one as in maple etc you could contour or shape yourself to try anyway good luck your comment was very close to home/my heart & I'm still chasing the dream axe with my own whammy system etc
its also weird some guitars just have their own mojo regardless of trying to replicate specs my mates PRS feels really good & even some Strats I play but there is the ideal sweet spot that you tend to come back to always 🎸🎶
Thanks for the advice really, my hands are even smaller than yours for a few mm and I truly agree the guitar with proper neck spec helps a lot. Also I am always struggle with Fmaj7 and people with big hands (my teacher and my boss who play guitar) always says stretch it and practice and you can do it, quite frustrating…
You're welcome! I've never played a Schecter, so can't comment, although I believe their necks a quick slim, so that would make sense. I think too much emphasis is placed (generally) on nut width, whereas in fact there's far more distance to cover around the back of the neck than there is at the front!
Bought a Tele neck for my Strat and ground it down with a rasp to the size of a large banjo neck. Cut the appropriate slot distances in a blank nut and angled the pick-ups to align under the strings. Very comfortable now for my small hands and can even wrap my thumb around the top bass strings like Jimi and Richie!
Thanks for this video. My hands are just a pinch larger than yours, and it's something I've struggled with all my playing life. It's comforting to know I'm not the only one!
I've subbed to you as you are the first to admit that people like us, with small hands have a hard time to learn to play the guitar! I've just started out after prompting because of a recent trauma event in my life. He has long fingers, has played for years so he can walk the fretboard with ease. Me? Well I am struggling with the simple C and forget the F, impossible! So I am hoping with your helping advice to be able to master this instrument if only to be as good as to entertain myself. Thank you.
You really hit so many points accurately for small handed players - I wish I had this video back 4 years ago when I started playing. My fingers are just slightly shorter than yours based on the dimensions you posted. I had to learn the things you pointed out here by trial and error but I am now playing the guitar quite well. I even bought a Taylor GSmini acoustic since it has a shorter scale thinking that I needed it for my small hands. It did help at first but now I can play full scale acoustic and electric guitars. Les Paul nut width is wider than my Fender Strat so I prefer playing the Stratocaster. Also, the thinner C style necks are easier to play. Excellent video and I am confident that others benefit from this video!
My hands are almost exactly the same size as yours. I am killing myself trying to play F minor with the barre on the first fret. This is a great video and now all I have to do is unlearn some old habits.
My advice is to buy a shorter scale length guitar. 24" or 24,75". There are also even shorter scale guitars of 22". His Ibanez has a "normal" scale length of 25,5". 24" scale guitar like Fender Mustang Duo Sonic are fun to play.
Thanks for the comment. I bought the Squire Mustang for that very reason when I started learning last year. Then i inherited and a Strat from my brother-in-law, which seems to work okay, for me now, but I still like the Mustang more. My problem is not so much scale length, but the width of the neck. Any way, I continue to work at it and I am having fun. I have abandoned barring all six strings to play a full F chord and just barre 5 and 6 which is working out pretty good.
(Acoustic player) Why are the guitar manufacturers not consulting with small-handed players (like you!) when planning their product line? A market worth millions, and manufacturers don't seem to notice.
I've been trying to play musical instruments all my life and I always run into physical roadblocks. My hands are the same size as yours, I so I was never any good at guitar and keyboard. I took both piano and guitar lessons growing up. When I was 61, I took up saxophone and took lessons for three years. Apparently, a lot of tone comes from the natural shape and resonance of the oral cavity and throat. My tone sucked and I finally put it away. I'm back with guitar and trying to make do.
I really think the key is to do whatever makes you happy, and be actively aware that what you're doing is fun. That, in turn, makes it more likely that you're going to be enthusiastic about picking it up again tomorrow. Sure, learning new skills and technical improvement requires active development, and on some days I feel more inclined to stretch myself. When those days come along, I go with it. But on the other days... I just lean back and play :)
I started playing late in life, worked over 30 years in construction, small hands and a pinky finger an 1 1/8" shorter than my middle finger, I feel your pain.
Interesting stuff. I have small hands and struggle to play my Gibson SG, but my guitar hero Angus Young doesn't seem to have a problem, there's no way his hands are bigger then mine😮 Equally my Squier Strat and my Jet JS300 are a dream to play.
It's interesting that you say your Strat is a dream to play, with my smaller hands I find even my Strat tricky with wrist pain etc maybe I can try a different approach the pain is gone cause I love the guitar. Thx
Can't wait to watch this, hope there are some good pointers that I haven't heard yet. But, for the record, my middle fingers are 2 3/4 inches long. I wish my fingers were as long as yours. lol This is complicated by the fact that my fingers are fat, so narrow string spacing is out. I am about 3 months into my guitar journey and can only get 4 chords without muting strings. Still working on it though.
Thank you. I have very small hands. I get that even kids can outplay me, but being comfortable as an adult makes a huge difference for wanting to play and not fighting the guitar. Scale length is also an issue for smaller players. . My pinky is only 50 mm so in addition to small fingers, they are poorly mounted. My index finger is 12 mm lower than my ring finger against the middle finger. and my pinky another 22 mm lower than my ring finder. It is not very uniform and makes many tasks harder that would otherwise be easier with fingers of very similar length. I bought a junior strat 22.5 inch or so inches 560 mm or close to it. I found this small guitare easy to play, but then there is string tension issues and stability of tuning because they are cheap guitars for kids. I would love a nice mid range 700-1000 CDN- (500 pound or so) guitar that is better built than a kids "learning" guitar. Tried a mustang but the offset felt weird , SG seems like the shorter gibson scale still goes on for miles. One day i will be able to buy a shorter scale well built guitar that I don't have to pay a custom shop thousands so I can play and learn easier.
I'd love an SG. If I ever buy another guitar, it'll be that. My main fear is that if a grow accustomed to the shorter scale I won't want to play my 25.5 scale guitars any more.
Absolutely great video on guitar playing. As someone with small hands and who's struggling this showed great technique on all aspects of playing. I'm actually looking at an Ibanez mikro 3/4 Thanks Subscibed!
Thanks for this. I made the mistake of buying an Epiphone les paul to start playing again (played a lot from 8yrs-14yrs old on a 3/4 size guitar) am now 25 so figured my fingers would be fine. My hands are similar size to yours and so I was very wrong haha. Am now looking to sell it but struggling to find a guitar I want to replace it with.
I started on a early 2000s Gibson SG and was having trouble. I have small girl hands with arthritis 😅 I recently got a ESP LTD EC-256 and I really like it! Much easier to play, thinner neck, less wood in your hand, made it easier to play for me. They sound amazing clean and dirty and pretty decent prices. I'd highly recommend them. I picked up one on Amazon for nearly 50% off because it was a returned one still in the box with box damage 👍
The thickness of the neck is so often sadly ignored in these conversations. I totally agree that it's critical. (That's why I favour my JS-1000 - it's so thin.) I'd love to be able to play a Les Paul, but it ain't happening.
@@Tiffany-Rose Seeing pics of your ESP LTD EC-256, it seems to be a similar shape to the Les Paul, and same scale-length (24.75"), but what about the neck size and feel (width AND thickness (Anthony would be proud of me!)) compared to a Les Paul? I also made the mistake to get a Epiphone Les Paul and now want a more "smallhander-friendly" electric guitar! (my acoustic guitar is a 23"-scale "Little Martin LXK2" which I love)
Much love to what you just said at the beginning. Guys with big hands telling me... "oh that is no problem. Look how you just put your thumb up the low e and play an easy barre cord"
Great video and i wished I had seen it 14 months ago. I bought an Ibanez PF15 acoustic only because it had a neck that was small enough for me to play. I took about 6 months to work out all of the strategies you describe in this video. My hands are smaller than yours and I've determined that there are some chords (many) that I will never be able to play. Only recently I bought an Epiphone Casino because it has a neck small enough that I can play. It sounds great and with my modeling amp I can create some great music, by adding effects and playing the chords I'm able to. Nothing worse than a video shows someone with long fingers describing the plight of someone with small fingers.
Thank you so much!! I've gone back and forth on guitar so many times but always left so discouraged because of my tiny fingers. They're all either comparable to yours or smaller. Using the advice you gave here has helped so much with actually having good form and reaching frets I've never been able to
Thanks for the video! The only digit I beat you on is the thumb (2 1/4, and the least important finger). Approaching 70 and just started tinkering. Have a good ear for notes and fret placement. While I'll never be able to play entire songs, I challenge myself to figuring out certain licks and "playing single notes to the words/melody". And I love the calloused finger tips!
Thanks for your tips, my fingers are even smaller than yours (my middle finger is only 6cm), and I've been on the verge of throwing in the towel out of frustration that even simple chords require ages to get right. Hopefully with this advice I can still continue on
The length of my index I just found out is around 63 mm or 2 1/2 inches, I have really tiny hands. I’ve been playing since I was in middle school and I’ve never ever, I mean ever, though my hands were too small to play or that it was a disadvantage. Just that that freakishly long fingers were ideal. If that makes any sense? Like I didn’t care about my finger lengths until now. It may sound boastful but it’s literally never been an issue for me, not once did it cross my mind. It’s not like I’m a scrub either, like my favorite songs to play are John Mayer’s. I’ve played classical, jazz, flamenco, and there’s never been a chord position I couldn’t play because of my hand size. It’s just weird to me only now am I getting video recommendations for these tips
Thank you for the information. Glad that I’m not the only one with smaller hands dealing with these challenges. This all makes so much sense. As a young teenager I played an Ibanez 540 R LTD but sold it in my early 20’s and started playing Teles and Strats. Nothing ever felt as comfortable as the Ibanez to me but I shrugged it off for decades. Now at 47 years old, I’m starting to realize how seemingly minor specs on a guitar can make such a difference cumulatively. What are your thoughts on fret size?
The vast majority of guitars are at or around 25.5" (i.e. standard strat design), so availability and budget are real considerations. To be honest I bought my two (yes, I only own two) electric guitars before having my own epiphany on the stuff I discuss in this video, so I've learned to work with what I have. If I was ever going to buy a third I'd probably get an SG... just to help out a bit. It all matters.
Right on. I’ve owned a few Gibsons, SG Standard and a late 70’s The Paul; both 24.75 scale length. I’d like to say the scale length was a bit more comfortable for reaching frets but the neck profile on both guitars was cumbersome. I’m actually taking the steps to build a 7/8 size guitar with a 24.75 scale length, and a 42 mm nut. Still researching what size fret wire would be the most suitable. What is your other guitar?
Acoustic is a totally different game with small hands . I play my Gretsch and tele just fine . Both electric. Playing my Martin acoustic takes some serious good form . Open tunings like a Keith Richards stuff are are great . He never plays the bottom string lately . But I keep another good acoustic in standard tuning and if I am capoed up to play lstuff like here comes the sun etc . I get both . I don’t like capoing the true sound of my Martin .
Quite interesting! You and I have the same size fingers. Our hands sans fingers appear to be similar as well. I love that you got an asymmetrical neck. I went with a Squier Affinity which has a smaller C shaped neck than a regular Strat and fits much better. I spent a lot of time insuring my basic posture and positioning was such that I had no pain anywhere which was so important especially due to my starting age of 58 years now 70 years old. Thanks for the advice. You have some good tips.
I've also converged almost to same tips. I have always thought my hands are not the best for guitar. I have a big palm in comparison with my fingers. I have always struggled with stretching, and more if you play standing up. Anyway, you can be a good guitar player no matter that. I play all kinds of guitars mostly love fenders. Great video, after many years I was surprised someone spoke about this😅
chords with upper structure traids are going to be difficult in certain inversions. 3 note per string? Forget it. Stick with CAGED, Segovian and Zone Sytems for modes and chord tone melodies, learn to spread your intervals within those forms and you'll be leagues beyond most.
"... solvable. ..." Thanks. I subscribed. I was challenged trying a D barre chord on the 5th fret. No way to keep the low string E away. Guess i need another guitar soon. One that has a friendly neck thickness.
Much appreciated :) Thinner/smaller necks certainly can't do any harm - it's all about what compromises you can work with and whether you're happy not being able to do everything! I certainly am - eventually ;)
Thanks for this lesson, my problem is,I just started playing again after 40 years. Lol!! I could play back in my teens to later 20's. I don't have the brain to fingers that I used to have. I can play well, till the bar chords pop up. I then have to compromise. I started back when covid started keeping us home. I play acoustic, bought a Taylor, tried a Martin but was a little wider at the neck. I love the Martin but it didn't work out. I will try your lesson, it should help! Thank you again!!
Thank you for making this video. I have measured my fingers and they are very similar to yours. I get wound up when other RUclipsrs say “…..and I have got small hands” and then Hendrix play. I have been trying for years. It can’t be done with small hands.
You're very welcome, I'm glad you agree! I do get the odd comment to this video saying some variety of 'just try harder', but I really do think it's very physically dependent. (I'm sure that even people with identically shaped hands will have different muscle & tendon structures that make a difference.)
you're wrong I have small hands/ fingers too here's the proof ruclips.net/video/qb0zilL7xVs/видео.html it's where the palm sits & technique but I built that guitar & fretboard radius & neck profile radius also help the cause
It's funny how we are all so different. My fingers are about the same as yours, but I have a longer span and a freakishly long thumb compared to yours, so I actually have difficulty keeping my thumb behind the neck without having my wrist at a crazy angle, or having the guitar up under my chin. A lot of times I use a "thumbs up" position and just support my fingers with my palm. It's so weird. Sometimes find myself wanting a fatter neck when people usually want the opposite. Can do the Hendrix thing though.
I ordered a Fender Stratocaster with a 24 inch scale length. It's a Japan exclusive. Fender USA doesn't even sell them. Now, if you have small hands, a 24 inch scale length is going to seem like your fingers grew 2 inches. You think your hands are small? My little finger is exactly 2 inches long. So playing a 25.5 scale length neck isn't easy for me. I can do it, but it's just frustrating to see other players play things as easy as falling off a log but I can't because my hands are small. Well, that 24 inch scale neck is going to level the playing field, literally.
Absolutely! If you can't play by the rules, re-invent the rules :) I'm in the fortunate/unfortunate position of loving both of my standard scale guitars, so developed these techniques to work around the problem, but I must confess I occasionally dream of a nice thin-necked SG...
@@OneManAndHisSongs The Jake E. Lee signature ESP has a 24 inch scale neck. It's a full size Strat body. You can actually make one, you just have to move the bridge back so that from the nut to the center of the bridge pieces is still 25.5 inches. Get the guitar body and have it pre-drilled (or drill it yourself) to fit the type of bridge you're installing. I can tell you, the "short scale" Strat is just so much fun to play now. The body is 6 percent smaller than a full size Strat, but you can hardly tell. I changed the pickups and put a set of Wilkenson High Output Alnicos in it and it just sings now. I also put a brass nut on it and a Wilkenson bridge because I'm not a fan of the "screw in" tremolo arms. The Wilkenson has a grub screw like the Paul Reed Smiths. ZERO arm slop. Nice and firm.
My hands are exactly the same size as yours (just measured) and I had a guitar teacher who INSISTED that I try to play "Jimi style" with the thumb wrapping around. Of course it was easy for him because he had long fingers, but he told me that I just need to "keep stretching it." I tried and tried. It was painful and frustrating and I never made any real progress. Eventually, I think I did some ligament damage to my fretting hand. I quit that guitar teacher and haven't tried another since. I realized that he simply was too lazy and/or ignorant to adapt his teaching to the physical reality of my hands. He was comfortable playing that way and could or would not teach any other way of playing --- and he blamed me for "failing to stretch" my fingers to be like his.
Sorry to hear that. I don't understand this absolute determination of some people to insist there's only one way to do something, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Now it's starting to make sense why I'm having such a hard time playing guitar. I have very small hands exactly same size as yours. And there are some chords I just can't no way in the world are so uncomfortable.
I have small hands, dupentryns contracture in both hands with arthritis. Sounds like playing guitar is insane right? No, it actually helps but i have to modify everything and somethings i just can’t. So thank you. I play a 84’ strat squire based on the 50’ model. Thanks for this
Yeah, my middle finger is only 3", so, that is REAL small. No wonder I had a hard time trying to play a full size acoustic. But, Fender Squire Contemporary Stratocaster might be the way to go for me, on a budget and who doesn't love the Strat sound?
Also, I see some people asking about Mistangs and Jaguars. They are cool. But not for everything. I would recommend trying one of the Squier Bullet or Sonic Mustangs. I have 3. They are inexpensive and not bad at all.
It is nice to see someone who actually lives in the real world on this issue. I must say that electric is way, way easier than acoustic. There are many more options and many more places to hide. On acoustic, for example-at least when accompanying yourself-the bass notes often are essential. My two keys there are: (1) Recognize that there are lots of things you’ll never do that others can, but that there are still many ways to get to a serviceable sound. It’s a palette, and we just have fewer paints than those with larger hands. Still lots of colors to use. (2) Within reason (and here’s where I disagree with you a bit), push the envelope with stubbornness and practice. I can do a reasonable F barre, even when fingerpicking (I might muff a note or two), and I think my hands are smaller than yours. Yes, I have to be WAY more precise and quick than a person with larger hands, but it works, mostly. I’ve done hundreds of shows, played on commercial radio, and recorded three records. Am I a great player? Not close. Good enough? Yep.
Thanks for the feedback, and, of course, you're absolutely right. The handicap is real, but if I practiced harder my ability to reach those nearly-notes would improve.
@@OneManAndHisSongs By the way, I checked, and my middle finger is a bit under 3” 😂 I guess that should be an inspirational story for small-handed guitarists. I have had a long, wonderful guitar journey, playing full-size guitars. Though I am mainly a singer-songwriter, I did once even play lead in a band (Les Paul/PRS) for a few years. And it has little to do with height-I’m 6’2”! Last thing: Given your useful attitude and approach, you might want to do a “Part II” on how this affects the *strumming* hand/any tips. (Never seen that anywhere, but the struggle is real.) Among other things, makes palm muting much harder (precision, again!), eliminates some muted strum techniques (at least for me), makes it impossible to anchor your picking hand with your pinky whilst fingerpicking, and-most challenging-requires a less secure pick grip (I can’t bend my finger to hold the pick against the knuckle as generally recommended). Then maybe your hands are big enough to avoid those things 😉
That's an interesting idea. I'll add it to my 'to-do' list. I'd honestly never considered why I had such difficulty palm muting. It makes complete sense now that I think about it. (I actually play almost exclusively without a plectrum, and never considered that hand size might have been a contributing factor in that.)
@@OneManAndHisSongs Yep. I love palm muted, percussive strums with fretted chords. Unfortunately, I can only do a limited number of these, and only the simplest. My right hand isn’t large enough to mute the necessary strings whilst getting far enough away from the strings to smoothly execute the strum. A “floating” hand whilst Travis picking is also challenging, especially if you’re singing over it. A final thing: Absolute precision is essential for some things, but sometimes that requires looking at the fretboard (for corrections or to save something). That’s a no-no when performing, and actually interferes with fluidity and rhythm (I believe). Thus, live (acoustic anyway, what I do these days), I keep bells and whistles to an absolute minimum, and try to win folks over with my songs, looks, and winning personality 😉
Ironically I prefer Travis picking with a floating hand. When I use an anchor it feels jarring and clumsy. (Not that I'm any whiz at the style, but it's interesting what feels comfortable to different people.)
I had no idea that I should be looking for different ways to play a chord. I just figured that with time I could do it. Thank you for helping me see this. By the way. Your favorite F position- I right away heard Bread's "Make it With You" :)
I'm really glad you found the video useful, thanks for the feedback! OMG yeah, that is QUITE the tune - not listened to it an ages (but am doing so as I type)!
The JS-1000 is the only Ibanez I've owned, and I think they have a different profile. As far as the JS is concerned, it's absolutely amazing, but that wasn't the question :)
I liked the first half of the video. Yes, buy a guitar with a narrow neck and smaller frets (you can go to a guitar tech and ask him to grind down your jumbo frets that come with almost every guitar today), also nut width and scale length are important for comfort. I love the advice about ergonomics, I never considered it before. But the last part where you say “don’t do a bar F” or “don’t add a higher 7th to an Am7 chord” I really don’t agree with. I have the same measurements of fingers as you, and I promise you can do an F or an Am7 comfortably in any possible shape. Don’t limit what you play or not play because you have a bit smaller hands, and do train for flexibility and grip strength. This is coming from a guy with a thick necked, 25.5” scale length fender telecaster
Fair enough. In my defence, I struggled for about 30 years with hand pain playing an F before I gave up. I tried every warm-up technique and alternative fingering I could find, too, and none of them helped.
My hands are a few mm bigger than yours but my pinky is my biggest problem as when stretching it always tries to go towards the other fingers & not away from them & therefore sometimes cannot easily reach its desired note. I think I'll have to wear a strap when sitting to elevate the angle of the neck a bit more. I have always thought it weird though that I always have to buy size L gloves (which pretty much fit the length of my fingers except for the pinky), so there must be some really small handed people out there.
Everyone constantly saying "just stretch and you'll get there" made me feel like I'm either the worlds worst guitarist or I have the smallest hands to ever attempt guitar. Thanks for actually saying "No, you can't do that. Let it go" so I can move on and focus on other things instead.
I'm glad you agree! It's pretty frustrating to be told how to fix a problem by someone who's never suffered from it!
I measured my middle finger on the inside, less than 3.5 inches. I've tried to play classical guitar with much frustration. I used to able to play Lagrima and few other pieces but now I forget them all due to wrists issues. I still play the guitar and I'm thinking of relearn those pieces.
yes, with my small hands there are certain riffs that I just cannot stretch to, even on a short scale guitar, in some cases there is a work around.
It hurts thought…
I know the feeling. I'm always told I have bass playing hands. I can"t do what guys with long fingers can do on the guitar.
Finally someone who actually knows what they’re talking about. Thanks 🙏🏼 very helpful
I've very glad you thought so, thanks for the feedback!
Thanks for the tut, nobody wants to talk about it.
You're welcome, thanks for the feedback :)
SO reassuring to have some sense spoken on this subject. I didn't even know I had small hands until I started practicing the classic A minor pentatonic scale and couldn't understand why the RUclips experts seemed to reach that 8th fret on the low E string so effortlessly with their pinky finger while I struggled (and still do). Thanks for demonstrating it can be overcome and it's just part of the journey.
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it :)
As a new guitar player with smaller hands, this is a wrist saver tutorial. I have been searching videos on how to cure wrist pain and then fell upon your great video and how not to get it in the first place. Nearly all guitar videos show you how to play stuff without details like this. I now know that wrist pain is bad, shouldn't happen,and not something to work through and shall adjust the play style that everyone online seems to think I should have. Can't thank you enough. Subscribed! 😁
Awesome, thanks for the feedback - glad I was able to help :)
you have no idea how much i appreciate you making this video i have been struggling and about to give up.
That's wonderful to hear, thanks for saying so!
As a beginner with very strong but small hands, this video is gold. I would get annoyed with people in other videos not covering the reality that long fingered players have it much easier, it's not about strength. I also thought about trading in my guitar for a 3/4 so this is some great information to guide me for my next purchase when it may be.
Thank you sir, cheers!
I'm very glad you found it useful - thanks for the feedback!
I'd also consider getting a flatter radius fretboard. The flatter it is, the shorter the distance between the outside strings.
I've tried all sorts of smaller guitars, and find that many 3/4-type guitars do NOT have necks and fretboards designed for small-hands. Always personally try an instrument before buying!
The same reason I play Ibanez exclusively now. I had also considered moving to a 7/8 scale before I found the benefits of the Ibanez Wizard necks. Good pointers.
Thanks! Yeah, the neck profile of the Ibanez is great for small hands.
don't force things that aren't meant to be. great advice for guitar. and life.
Never a truer word.
Thanks so much for telling me it’s O.K. to play the alternate chords. I have the exact same problem with my ring finger not letting my pinky hit the string.
You're welcome! The irony is that the "traditional" fingering for an F Major chord (just to use one example), isn't even close voicing, unless you skip the 2 low strings and just play FACF (1351) on the top 4 strings - which then makes the chord easy!
I was fortunate to attend several Guitar Craft (Robert Fripp) seminars and the way we were taught to hold and approach the guitar changed my playing style completely, no i have no tension or aches and although the guitar sits very high, it serves me well
First off, a disclaimer: I have large hands. Secondly, and most importantly thank you. I’ve just started guitar lessons at almost 50 and was struggling with a blues shuffle trying to figure out how my also large handed instructor could stretch the frets and I couldn’t. My hands are even longer than his. My wrist is sore and aching, my fingers were cramping and he said it would come in time. Well that time was after I watched your video. I’ve been stretching and exercising my fingers for a week and a half trying to stretch the frets. I’ve watched 20plus videos and yours showed me in 12 mins. I still have some muscle memory to work on to hit it cleanly and consistently but I can now. Thank you again. I know I’m in the minority here, as a knuckle dragging monster, but I think every new guitarist should have this lesson. So for all my basketball palming brothers that come across your video, your awesome. Subscribed.
Lol, I welcome all hand sizes! Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad you found my video useful :)
Thank you so much, this was really helpful! My hands are even smaller than yours, by a centimeter or more on every finger. I’ve struggled so much with guitar and even piano because I physically can’t play the way it seems like everyone else does. My notes always end up out of tune because I’m either pressing too hard or can’t reach the string at all. I think I’m gonna have to bite the bullet and get a 3/4 guitar, so I can learn without being in pain.
You're very welcome! Yes, 3/4 guitars are definitely a solution. I've heard many great things about the Fender Jag, but never managed to pull the trigger on one myself.
Fender mini strat or ibanez mikro or jackson minion. Very small but comfortable as someone with hands close to yours.
Thank you so much for a realistic approach and some great tips
Glad it was helpful, thanks for the feedback!
One of the most helpful videos on guitar ergonomics. Thank you for this!
I'm very glad you think so - thanks for the feedback!
I do have small fingers but as you mentioned,it's the position of the guitar and I play Fender Stratocaster without problems.Thank you for the tips.
You're welcome, thanks for the feedback :)
My pinky is 1-7/8 inches. Tip of the thumb to tip of the index finger in a C shape is less than 7 inches. Fingers splayed, tip of the index to tip of the pinky is 5.5 inches. My fingers are tiny, and I do mean tiny. My pinky wears a baby's size 1 ring. I'm 56, so I don't expect a growth spurt in my future either. After much research, I got myself a Squier Mini-Strat - 3/4 size guitar, short scale (22.5 inches) - to learn on. Let them laugh at me. I can make chords, so I'm good. I can just never have what they would call a "real" guitar, not off a shelf anyway. One of those beauty Gibson guitars on my wall just isn't going to happen, ever. BUT, when I've earned it, I just might have a guitar custom built with all the bells and whistles... in 3/4 short scale, no skimping on craftsmanship or components... and with a tremolo to boot. I will want it to be a tiny beast of a music machine, the one great guitar of my life. I will call it The Baby. The industry should consider all shapes and sizes of adults. It doesn't. And most of the time, the instruments made for "kids" are not quality, rather bare bones and with the cheapest of everything, including finish. When I can finally play well, I will want an instrument I can be proud of, one that no one will have any grounds to laugh at. Then, let them whine that they can't play it... because their ape hands are too big.
That's awesome. You stick it to those yeti-handed oafs!
(Acoustic player) Yes. I'm constantly looking for an instrument (sometimes 3/4) with a thin neck profile, narrow nut width, well-rounded fretboard radius, etc., and most are low-quality "student" models. In one case I had a luthier "slenderize" the neck, and that helped. Agree, guitar makers are missing a big market.
I have pretty much the exact same hand shape as you. As a very new player I was really struggling. I stumbled onto what appears to be an acceptable guitar (Ibanez ASEZ31, 42mm nut 25" scale), which was just outright lucky. I've been asking around about hand position etc and nobody has been able to offer help until your video. Thank you, sir.
That's great to hear, glad I could help! Thanks for the feedback.
Ergonomics are so important. I'm missing my index on my right hand and I'm a lefty. Unfortunately, I have sausage fingers too! Been 2yrs just to learn about 8 chords now. Never say never! Thank you for this as it's very helpful in regards to learning guitar 🎸 👍
You're welcome, glad you found it useful :)
This is incredible i figured out the twisting of the wrist by my own but the rest i had no clue. I feel like i stumbled on to some sacred knowledge. Thank you so much
You're very welcome, thanks for the kind feedback :)
As a beginner I was getting discouraged because I have short thick fingers and I literally couldn’t play some chords because it would hurt and all these other RUclipsrs made it sound like hand size isn’t an issue but I’m glad I found this video and I wasn’t crazy keeps me motivated to play guitar
That's great to hear, and exactly why I made the video. Much appreciated :)
What a wonderful lesson. I've been messing around for 9 months or so and can play several rock solos. Not always up to speed and sometimes not perfect but I feel good about where I'm at right now. My issues are chord changes and Barre chords. I really appreciate this lesson because my hands are basically the same siz3 as yours. I got a fender strat for my bday. Hopefully it's ok for my hand size. Thanks again!!
Really glad you found it useful, thanks for the kind feedback!
Thanks for a great video I subscribed immediately.
I have just gotten my first guitar at the age of 60 ( it’s an itch that had to be scratched) ..
Never played a note in my life ..
I can tell you I measured my hands against your dimensions and I’m only just a little 10mm bigger ..
I just can’t seem to get my digits in the right place without touching other strings and my wrist is bloody killing me ..
But anyway..thanks and keep up the good work.
You're welcome, and thanks for the support! It's surprising how small changes in position relative to your body can have a dramatic effect on your ability to fret properly. Try adjusting your strap to various heights and changing the neck angle to see if anything helps. I made a video discussing playing chords which might help too: ruclips.net/video/oszsk1zk_R8/видео.html
Thanks. For acoustic players, another problem with small hands is simply less fingering strength when that's needed for barres. Also note, it helps to have a very well-rounded fretboard radius, as opposed to flat. Many manufacturers don't even give radius specs.
You're most welcome, and thanks for the feedback :)
Anthony, I first thought '20 minutes?' Too long. But I couldn't turn it off... I was learning more from you than from the other videos I had watched. Focusing on the guitar and its attributes taught me so much, rather than all about finger positioning. Your video will make my finger positioning lessons more easily accommodated. I actually sat my 3/4 guitar down and just watched and listened to you, several times. I can't believe how useful this video is for me, learning about my arm, wrist, and body posture; it was unique. I understand my guitar better now. Thank you so much!
That's very generous of you to say, I really appreciate your kind feedback!
Really great video! Hand size/shape %100 makes a difference. I wear XL gloves because I have large palms, but my fingers - and especially my thumb - are pretty short. Tips like this are so important, because small hands do cause issues, but most of those issues are solvable with the right technique! If you’re struggling, keep tweaking things, you can find the sweet spots!
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it :)
Great stuff! I had to give up playing for years as I suffered from DupuytrensSyndrome - an operation has alowed me to get back on the guitar, but with much less hand span. Thankfully, I have a couple of 24in guitars - Jaguar and Mustang which helps.
Thanks! I must admit to lusting after a Mustang.
Very comprehensive tutorial...my hands are exactly the same size as yours according to the dimensions on your thumbnail. What makes things a bit more complicated for me is that I'm left-handed....so the choice of guitars with the right conditions to accommodate small hands is somewhat limited. I play a Les Paul Tribute which seems to fit but I intend on searching for one that is even more suitable. Your video was very helpful....thank you!
I'm glad I was able to be of some help! Thanks for the feedback :)
Thanks for this video. My limitations really hit me hard when I realised I couldn’t play the song that inspired me to buy a guitar. Orion by Metallica. I simply cannot stretch my fingers or curl them enough to play the inverted power chords with out muting other strings
You're welcome. yeah, it's a bummer when a physical limitation is the issue. It's a pretty hard stop. My solution when I can't play something "properly" is to start dropping notes until I can. Sometimes it's surprising how whole notes can be omitted and it still sound good - particularly bass notes if they're mirrored by the bass player.
Some good points and tips, thanks. My hands are very similar size to yourself and I manage most things OK, except those 4 / 5 fret "jazz" type chords. I also observe that some players with big hands must have trouble isolating one string and fret with their sausage fingers. We all have challenges!
Many thanks for your feedback, I'm glad you found the video useful. I agree - there's an element of horses for courses, but I must confess I wish my hands were at least a bit bigger than they are :) I remember buying the Van Halen 5150 songbook many years ago and quickly realising (for many reasons, actually) that I'd just wasted my money ;)
Okay, my hand's are even a bit shorter then your'es wich look's a bit odd cause i'm not small, i'm 1.78cm tall...
My thumb is 5.5cm and my middle finger is 7cm, the Index 6.5cm but also my fingertip's are very chubby and the callus doesn't help here... Happen's that a string get's unwanted mute because of ringfinger is touching it if i wanna fret a string above, just like in your'e example... To get around that i always try to curve my hand as far i can over the frettboard to press vertical on the strings and not in an angle where my tip's tending to touch the neighbour string's... I wondered why it look's so odd when i film myself playing compared to other players but then i noticed how short my finger's look compared to them and i knew what was going on...😮
Only benefit i have is good mobilty in my joint's so my hand span on the desk can be up to 19.5cm but then there is nearly no space left and the index is parallel to the desk...😅
I know why i love my ibanez Xiphos and my Schecter E1 sls elite with an even thinner neck...
It's called ultra thin C and is maybe thinner then the ibanez wizard neck's but i don't know for sure... The fret's are XL jumbo but it's the ergonomicly best playing neck i ever tried, the body is another thing tho...🙄 At the end i struggle with whrist pain all the time because i play really a lot...
But guess what: i will try out a baritone soon...😅
THE BEST initial instruction I’ve ever heard!
That's very kind of you to say, thank you :)
i have small hands and love to play with the thumb over on all my strats (diffrent neck shapes) i think its more of a technique thing
I'm probably not the first to mention Strandberg and the ergonomics built into those guitars, I have small hands and have been coping with an American Strat I bought new in 1979 all my adult life. The neck is pretty huge, and as I get older and the stretch in my left hand diminishes, I'm on the hunt for something both lighter and more suited to my physicality. I shall be trying out the Strandbergs along with some Ibanez models and , I've heard, some Schecter models too are very small hand friendly.
Excellent video.
Thanks for the feedback! Yes indeed, I've heard other people wax lyrical about the Strandberg range, but have never tried one myself.
That was really inspiring! I have hands about the same size, and the F Chord in particular has been impossible, even on my current fave a Taylor GS Mini. Your tips on posture were on point too, I will now play with strap even sitting down. Subcribed!
I appreciate the feedback, thanks very much :)
I got the same problem. Very nice video from the person who knows how it is in real. Recently I bought Squier sonic mustang, low budget guitar but well made for the price, 24 inch scale length. The neck is a bit thicker than in my Yamaha 312( very slim ) , but feels awesome and my picking hand feels more comfortable. Palm muting is more natural , my hand feels in more natural position. You can check Squire bullet mustang, and other short scale guitars. Make a difference in my opinion. Regards Matt.
I've played (but not owned) a Mustang, and it did feel great to play. In this particular video I was approaching the subject from the perspective of playing a regular scale guitar, but I completely agree that buying a short scale is a great way to navigate the issue.
I also have a Squier bullet mustang with a thin neck and 24 inch scale and it is great for my small hands.
Thanks for this! My fingers are just a few mm longer than yours, but quite thick. I've been playing on and off for 15 years but kept giving up because I just couldn’t do things that people kept saying I could if I kept stretching my hands etc. This video has renewed my optimism and got me fired up to keep playing!
That's awesome to hear, thanks for the feedback :)
Although I definitely see that this video is meant well, I think it's a bit overly pessimistic. I got pretty much the exact fingers dimensions as you do but have over time developed flexibility and strength to play with my thumb over just fine. Being careful about hurting your hands is important, but identifying with challenges can stunt progress on the instrument. Cheers
30+ years ago a friend whom collected Kay's, Harmony's, Stella's showed me a guitar...can't remember the brand...that had the neck at the nut the same dimension all the way down to the pick up. There was no gradual increase in the width. The guitar was surprisingly easy to play. I haven't seen one since. Thanks for the video. I myself had Dunning/Kruger growing up and thought I was a guitar player. I still play the guitar daily though after all these years.
I can completely relate, I actually carved a custom endure neck (Standberg endureneck I mean) style neck in one of my headless guitars.
It’s like a pillow for your thumb seriously ✈️
And my playing started taking off like a jet!! Even though I have small hands. It was so frustrating before, only a charvel smaller neck was comfortable for me. Honestly I thought I couldn’t play but it was a matter of finding the right neck profile. 🥂
I'd never heard of them, so just looked it up. I can see how that would do the trick!
I have large hands but I've never taken advantage of the thumb over the top, plays bass note position. Great advice for guitar players of all sizes. 🎸👍
Much appreciated, thanks for the feedback :)
Thank God for you!!!! My hands and fingers are almost the same size as yours and I have been having the worst time. Though well meaning the people with long fingers just don't get it. This is tremendously helpful. Thanks Again!!!
Very glad to hear that my video was useful, thank you for the feedback :)
my hands are about 1 cm shorter for each finger and after many months of practice, i am actually able to play those Hendrix thumb chords. it felt very impossible at first but recently it got much easier. (i also have a clubbed thumb which does not help)
My first finger to thumb curvature length is only 16.5cm, and my pinky is only 5 cm! I have to say I cannot get the barre chord trick of pulling back with the fretting hand to work at all, I've tried over and over. I am really appreciative of this insight from someone who ACTUALLY has small hands. Great suggestions and I'll put them to use for sure. Thanks!
Thanks very much for your feedback, I appreciate it :)
Very informative video, thank you for sharing!
Glad it was helpful, thanks for the feedback!
I've got smaller hands. And I've broken my left thumb and hand several times. I have to constantly keep this in mind (subconsciously) and I'm always trying new chord positions and voicing to compromise or make things work. I try to make it part of my sound/style and it works alot of times. But there are certain things I have to work out first before just jamming, and that's my favorite way to play...just free jamming. After awhile I figure out where I need to go instead of my 1st or 2nd thought, but it does take extra work/practice...just putting the time in, seeing what does or doesn't work and fixing mistakes. It is a PIA. But I have to hope it makes me better in the long run.
Also, I am constantly thinking of guitar specs. Trying to figure out what the optimal neck is that I can find out there. I really want to make my own. Maybe someday. Mustangs and shorter scales are cool but not always. I'd love a 24¼" scale neck...but they don't exist and I can't afford to find someone to make it for me. Someday, maybe...
I currently play alot of PRS guitars. An old 94 CE24, a Vela and an SE Hollowbody II (bigger neck, but somehow very easy to play). I have a SG w P90's that has a thin flat D neck I like but need more playing time on. A 24¾" 24 fret Ric style guitar with a great neck that needs a little bit of setup work and I'd like a new bridge for.
I have a Silversky that is really nice but I'm just not able to play for very long. An original Reverend Billy Corgan signature that I love so much, except for the 25½ scale....I'm turning that into a baritone essentially...like Ariel Posen does with his Mulecaster tuned to B with 17s.
I feel your pain.
I'd really love to design and build instruments that cater to people like us one day. I'm a tech and builder, and if I just could find someone to help design an optimal neck shape and scale length that's not traditional I'd certainly build it. People don't think so bit, there's a big difference between 24.5" and 24" scale lengths and I'd like to try and split that difference, and shape the neck in a way that a hand our size cradles the neck comfortably and easily.
You're collection puts mine to shame! Amazingly, I've never played a Mustang (there's one in a local shop that I'm looking forward to trying soon). Building your own bespoke guitar, though... that's next level :)
Your specs reflect my own musical & lutherian journey 24.5" is the sweet spot & something that took years to bring into fruition but I use my thumb & also realized on the evolving journey its really fundamentally technique at play where fretboard radius & neck radius profile also optimize the thumb technique ability & where you put your palm etc that can make you play like King Jimi
here's proof
ruclips.net/video/qb0zilL7xVs/видео.html
I have a small hand/fingers but your comments were very close to home. that guitar in the vid is my 1st prototype years ago & started with 24'" but find it to shorter scale I also explored thinner nut width but really its technique & neck profile ultimately
& practice
Hopefully you realize your dream axe as there really is nothing better in this world than something you've created to your exclusive specs. I'm gonna do another build soon but yeh I'm all the way down under Australia. 24.5 (622mm) is not really much difference to Gibson scale now usually 24 5/8" to 24 3/4" (625 to 628mm) but they are usually thick baseball bat necks & worse if they have binding any other one as in maple etc you could contour or shape yourself to try
anyway good luck your comment was very close to home/my heart & I'm still chasing the dream axe with my own whammy system etc
its also weird some guitars just have their own mojo regardless of trying to replicate specs my mates PRS feels really good & even some Strats I play but there is the ideal sweet spot that you tend to come back to always 🎸🎶
Thanks for the advice really, my hands are even smaller than yours for a few mm and I truly agree the guitar with proper neck spec helps a lot. Also I am always struggle with Fmaj7 and people with big hands (my teacher and my boss who play guitar) always says stretch it and practice and you can do it, quite frustrating…
Yeah, they are talking absolute rubbish. I've had to put up with that nonsense from BigHanders for too long! No more, I say!
Thank you so much!! This video helped me. I’ve heard that schecter necks are good for small hands. What do you think?
You're welcome! I've never played a Schecter, so can't comment, although I believe their necks a quick slim, so that would make sense. I think too much emphasis is placed (generally) on nut width, whereas in fact there's far more distance to cover around the back of the neck than there is at the front!
Bought a Tele neck for my Strat and ground it down with a rasp to the size of a large banjo neck. Cut the appropriate slot distances in a blank nut and angled the pick-ups to align under the strings. Very comfortable now for my small hands and can even wrap my thumb around the top bass strings like Jimi and Richie!
Good grief! Glad it worked out for you :)
@@OneManAndHisSongs Sometimes we smaller guys have to improvise to level the playing field.
Thanks for this video. My hands are just a pinch larger than yours, and it's something I've struggled with all my playing life. It's comforting to know I'm not the only one!
You're very welcome!
I've subbed to you as you are the first to admit that people like us, with small hands have a hard time to learn to play the guitar! I've just started out after prompting because of a recent trauma event in my life. He has long fingers, has played for years so he can walk the fretboard with ease. Me? Well I am struggling with the simple C and forget the F, impossible! So I am hoping with your helping advice to be able to master this instrument if only to be as good as to entertain myself. Thank you.
Thanks for the kind feedback, I appreciate it!
You really hit so many points accurately for small handed players - I wish I had this video back 4 years ago when I started playing. My fingers are just slightly shorter than yours based on the dimensions you posted. I had to learn the things you pointed out here by trial and error but I am now playing the guitar quite well. I even bought a Taylor GSmini acoustic since it has a shorter scale thinking that I needed it for my small hands. It did help at first but now I can play full scale acoustic and electric guitars. Les Paul nut width is wider than my Fender Strat so I prefer playing the Stratocaster. Also, the thinner C style necks are easier to play. Excellent video and I am confident that others benefit from this video!
I really appreciate you saying so, thank you :)
Great video ! It addresses many issues small hands come up against .
My hands are almost exactly the same size as yours. I am killing myself trying to play F minor with the barre on the first fret. This is a great video and now all I have to do is unlearn some old habits.
We littlehands must stick together! Glad I could help :)
My advice is to buy a shorter scale length guitar. 24" or 24,75". There are also even shorter scale guitars of 22". His Ibanez has a "normal" scale length of 25,5". 24" scale guitar like Fender Mustang Duo Sonic are fun to play.
Thanks for the comment. I bought the Squire Mustang for that very reason when I started learning last year. Then i inherited and a Strat from my brother-in-law, which seems to work okay, for me now, but I still like the Mustang more. My problem is not so much scale length, but the width of the neck. Any way, I continue to work at it and I am having fun. I have abandoned barring all six strings to play a full F chord and just barre 5 and 6 which is working out pretty good.
(Acoustic player) Why are the guitar manufacturers not consulting with small-handed players (like you!) when planning their product line? A market worth millions, and manufacturers don't seem to notice.
I've been trying to play musical instruments all my life and I always run into physical roadblocks. My hands are the same size as yours, I so I was never any good at guitar and keyboard. I took both piano and guitar lessons growing up. When I was 61, I took up saxophone and took lessons for three years. Apparently, a lot of tone comes from the natural shape and resonance of the oral cavity and throat. My tone sucked and I finally put it away. I'm back with guitar and trying to make do.
I really think the key is to do whatever makes you happy, and be actively aware that what you're doing is fun. That, in turn, makes it more likely that you're going to be enthusiastic about picking it up again tomorrow. Sure, learning new skills and technical improvement requires active development, and on some days I feel more inclined to stretch myself. When those days come along, I go with it. But on the other days... I just lean back and play :)
I started playing late in life, worked over 30 years in construction, small hands and a pinky finger an 1 1/8" shorter than my middle finger, I feel your pain.
Interesting stuff.
I have small hands and struggle to play my Gibson SG, but my guitar hero Angus Young doesn't seem to have a problem, there's no way his hands are bigger then mine😮
Equally my Squier Strat and my Jet JS300 are a dream to play.
Neck width and total profile are as important as scale length I think. Angus Young defies most of the laws of physics... :0
It's interesting that you say your Strat is a dream to play, with my smaller hands I find even my Strat tricky with wrist pain etc maybe I can try a different approach the pain is gone cause I love the guitar. Thx
Can't wait to watch this, hope there are some good pointers that I haven't heard yet. But, for the record, my middle fingers are 2 3/4 inches long. I wish my fingers were as long as yours. lol
This is complicated by the fact that my fingers are fat, so narrow string spacing is out.
I am about 3 months into my guitar journey and can only get 4 chords without muting strings. Still working on it though.
Yup, you got me beat there! I hope you find something useful in the video :)
Don’t give up!
@@dwstoeckel4740 I am not, I am figuring it out! thanks for the encouragement
I can identify. I have short fingers with fat tips. The window I can fret notes at without hitting other strings is really small.
Thank you. I have very small hands. I get that even kids can outplay me, but being comfortable as an adult makes a huge difference for wanting to play and not fighting the guitar. Scale length is also an issue for smaller players. . My pinky is only 50 mm so in addition to small fingers, they are poorly mounted. My index finger is 12 mm lower than my ring finger against the middle finger. and my pinky another 22 mm lower than my ring finder. It is not very uniform and makes many tasks harder that would otherwise be easier with fingers of very similar length.
I bought a junior strat 22.5 inch or so inches 560 mm or close to it. I found this small guitare easy to play, but then there is string tension issues and stability of tuning because they are cheap guitars for kids. I would love a nice mid range 700-1000 CDN- (500 pound or so) guitar that is better built than a kids "learning" guitar. Tried a mustang but the offset felt weird , SG seems like the shorter gibson scale still goes on for miles.
One day i will be able to buy a shorter scale well built guitar that I don't have to pay a custom shop thousands so I can play and learn easier.
I'd love an SG. If I ever buy another guitar, it'll be that. My main fear is that if a grow accustomed to the shorter scale I won't want to play my 25.5 scale guitars any more.
Thank You so much. Quite helpful useful information.
You're very welcome :)
Absolutely great video on guitar playing. As someone with small hands and who's struggling this showed great technique on all aspects of playing.
I'm actually looking at an Ibanez mikro 3/4
Thanks
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Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the kind feedback!
Old Fender Duo Sonics, Swingers and Musicmasters are also very short scale (22.5") if you ever want something vintage.
Thanks for this. I made the mistake of buying an Epiphone les paul to start playing again (played a lot from 8yrs-14yrs old on a 3/4 size guitar) am now 25 so figured my fingers would be fine. My hands are similar size to yours and so I was very wrong haha. Am now looking to sell it but struggling to find a guitar I want to replace it with.
I started on a early 2000s Gibson SG and was having trouble. I have small girl hands with arthritis 😅 I recently got a ESP LTD EC-256 and I really like it! Much easier to play, thinner neck, less wood in your hand, made it easier to play for me. They sound amazing clean and dirty and pretty decent prices. I'd highly recommend them. I picked up one on Amazon for nearly 50% off because it was a returned one still in the box with box damage 👍
@@Tiffany-Rose Thanks so much for the detailed response, appreciate it very much!
The thickness of the neck is so often sadly ignored in these conversations. I totally agree that it's critical. (That's why I favour my JS-1000 - it's so thin.) I'd love to be able to play a Les Paul, but it ain't happening.
@@ItsssBez I almost got discouraged because I didn't think the neck size would make that much of a difference but it really does! 👍
@@Tiffany-Rose Seeing pics of your ESP LTD EC-256, it seems to be a similar shape to the Les Paul, and same scale-length (24.75"), but what about the neck size and feel (width AND thickness (Anthony would be proud of me!)) compared to a Les Paul? I also made the mistake to get a Epiphone Les Paul and now want a more "smallhander-friendly" electric guitar! (my acoustic guitar is a 23"-scale "Little Martin LXK2" which I love)
Any one with small hands the fender mustang might be a good option shorter in scale. I'm going to have to try one.
Yup, I should have made more of a point of suggesting that as an option. Thanks for the feedback.
Much love to what you just said at the beginning. Guys with big hands telling me... "oh that is no problem. Look how you just put your thumb up the low e and play an easy barre cord"
It is odd, isn't it! Can they not hear themselves?!
Great video and i wished I had seen it 14 months ago. I bought an Ibanez PF15 acoustic only because it had a neck that was small enough for me to play. I took about 6 months to work out all of the strategies you describe in this video. My hands are smaller than yours and I've determined that there are some chords (many) that I will never be able to play. Only recently I bought an Epiphone Casino because it has a neck small enough that I can play. It sounds great and with my modeling amp I can create some great music, by adding effects and playing the chords I'm able to. Nothing worse than a video shows someone with long fingers describing the plight of someone with small fingers.
Thanks for the feedback! I know, right... how very dare they :)
Thank you so much!! I've gone back and forth on guitar so many times but always left so discouraged because of my tiny fingers. They're all either comparable to yours or smaller. Using the advice you gave here has helped so much with actually having good form and reaching frets I've never been able to
Awesome! I'm very glad you found the video useful. Thanks for the feedback :)
Thanks for the video! The only digit I beat you on is the thumb (2 1/4, and the least important finger). Approaching 70 and just started tinkering. Have a good ear for notes and fret placement. While I'll never be able to play entire songs, I challenge myself to figuring out certain licks and "playing single notes to the words/melody". And I love the calloused finger tips!
You're very welcome, and thanks for the feedback! Glad to hear you've caught the bug :)
very good
Thanks :)
Thanks for your tips, my fingers are even smaller than yours (my middle finger is only 6cm), and I've been on the verge of throwing in the towel out of frustration that even simple chords require ages to get right. Hopefully with this advice I can still continue on
You're very welcome - glad to add a glimmer of hope!
Brilliant vid,,thank you
You're very welcome, thanks for the feedback :)
The length of my index I just found out is around 63 mm or 2 1/2 inches, I have really tiny hands. I’ve been playing since I was in middle school and I’ve never ever, I mean ever, though my hands were too small to play or that it was a disadvantage. Just that that freakishly long fingers were ideal. If that makes any sense? Like I didn’t care about my finger lengths until now. It may sound boastful but it’s literally never been an issue for me, not once did it cross my mind. It’s not like I’m a scrub either, like my favorite songs to play are John Mayer’s. I’ve played classical, jazz, flamenco, and there’s never been a chord position I couldn’t play because of my hand size. It’s just weird to me only now am I getting video recommendations for these tips
Thank you for the information. Glad that I’m not the only one with smaller hands dealing with these challenges. This all makes so much sense. As a young teenager I played an Ibanez 540 R LTD but sold it in my early 20’s and started playing Teles and Strats. Nothing ever felt as comfortable as the Ibanez to me but I shrugged it off for decades. Now at 47 years old, I’m starting to realize how seemingly minor specs on a guitar can make such a difference cumulatively. What are your thoughts on fret size?
The vast majority of guitars are at or around 25.5" (i.e. standard strat design), so availability and budget are real considerations. To be honest I bought my two (yes, I only own two) electric guitars before having my own epiphany on the stuff I discuss in this video, so I've learned to work with what I have. If I was ever going to buy a third I'd probably get an SG... just to help out a bit. It all matters.
Right on. I’ve owned a few Gibsons, SG Standard and a late 70’s The Paul; both 24.75 scale length. I’d like to say the scale length was a bit more comfortable for reaching frets but the neck profile on both guitars was cumbersome. I’m actually taking the steps to build a 7/8 size guitar with a 24.75 scale length, and a 42 mm nut. Still researching what size fret wire would be the most suitable. What is your other guitar?
Fender Strat American Deluxe
Acoustic is a totally different game with small hands . I play my Gretsch and tele just fine . Both electric. Playing my Martin acoustic takes some serious good form . Open tunings like a Keith Richards stuff are are great . He never plays the bottom string lately . But I keep another good acoustic in standard tuning and if I am capoed up to play lstuff like here comes the sun etc . I get both . I don’t like capoing the true sound of my Martin .
Quite interesting! You and I have the same size fingers. Our hands sans fingers appear to be similar as well. I love that you got an asymmetrical neck. I went with a Squier Affinity which has a smaller C shaped neck than a regular Strat and fits much better. I spent a lot of time insuring my basic posture and positioning was such that I had no pain anywhere which was so important especially due to my starting age of 58 years now 70 years old.
Thanks for the advice. You have some good tips.
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it :)
I've also converged almost to same tips. I have always thought my hands are not the best for guitar. I have a big palm in comparison with my fingers. I have always struggled with stretching, and more if you play standing up. Anyway, you can be a good guitar player no matter that. I play all kinds of guitars mostly love fenders. Great video, after many years I was surprised someone spoke about this😅
Thanks for the kind feedback, I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
chords with upper structure traids are going to be difficult in certain inversions. 3 note per string? Forget it. Stick with CAGED, Segovian and Zone Sytems for modes and chord tone melodies, learn to spread your intervals within those forms and you'll be leagues beyond most.
well the video iv been looking for how to play with small hands helped me a lot thank you so much
You're very welcome, thanks for the feedback :)
"... solvable. ..."
Thanks.
I subscribed.
I was challenged trying a D barre chord on the 5th fret.
No way to keep the low string E away.
Guess i need another guitar soon.
One that has a friendly neck thickness.
Much appreciated :) Thinner/smaller necks certainly can't do any harm - it's all about what compromises you can work with and whether you're happy not being able to do everything! I certainly am - eventually ;)
Thanks for this lesson, my problem is,I just started playing again after 40 years. Lol!! I could play back in my teens to later 20's. I don't have the brain to fingers that I used to have. I can play well, till the bar chords pop up. I then have to compromise. I started back when covid started keeping us home. I play acoustic, bought a Taylor, tried a Martin but was a little wider at the neck. I love the Martin but it didn't work out. I will try your lesson, it should help! Thank you again!!
You're very welcome - thanks for the feedback :)
Thank you for making this video. I have measured my fingers and they are very similar to yours. I get wound up when other RUclipsrs say “…..and I have got small hands” and then Hendrix play. I have been trying for years. It can’t be done with small hands.
You're very welcome, I'm glad you agree! I do get the odd comment to this video saying some variety of 'just try harder', but I really do think it's very physically dependent. (I'm sure that even people with identically shaped hands will have different muscle & tendon structures that make a difference.)
you're wrong I have small hands/ fingers too
here's the proof
ruclips.net/video/qb0zilL7xVs/видео.html
it's where the palm sits & technique but I built that guitar & fretboard radius & neck profile radius also help the cause
It's funny how we are all so different. My fingers are about the same as yours, but I have a longer span and a freakishly long thumb compared to yours, so I actually have difficulty keeping my thumb behind the neck without having my wrist at a crazy angle, or having the guitar up under my chin. A lot of times I use a "thumbs up" position and just support my fingers with my palm. It's so weird. Sometimes find myself wanting a fatter neck when people usually want the opposite. Can do the Hendrix thing though.
Indeed! That's really the big takeaway in my opinion - find what works for you and don't be bowed down by people telling you you're wrong.
Thanks for the help!
You're very welcome :)
I ordered a Fender Stratocaster with a 24 inch scale length. It's a Japan exclusive. Fender USA doesn't even sell them. Now, if you have small hands, a 24 inch scale length is going to seem like your fingers grew 2 inches.
You think your hands are small? My little finger is exactly 2 inches long. So playing a 25.5 scale length neck isn't easy for me. I can do it, but it's just frustrating to see other players play things as easy as falling off a log but I can't because my hands are small. Well, that 24 inch scale neck is going to level the playing field, literally.
Absolutely! If you can't play by the rules, re-invent the rules :) I'm in the fortunate/unfortunate position of loving both of my standard scale guitars, so developed these techniques to work around the problem, but I must confess I occasionally dream of a nice thin-necked SG...
@@OneManAndHisSongs The Jake E. Lee signature ESP has a 24 inch scale neck. It's a full size Strat body. You can actually make one, you just have to move the bridge back so that from the nut to the center of the bridge pieces is still 25.5 inches. Get the guitar body and have it pre-drilled (or drill it yourself) to fit the type of bridge you're installing. I can tell you, the "short scale" Strat is just so much fun to play now. The body is 6 percent smaller than a full size Strat, but you can hardly tell. I changed the pickups and put a set of Wilkenson High Output Alnicos in it and it just sings now. I also put a brass nut on it and a Wilkenson bridge because I'm not a fan of the "screw in" tremolo arms. The Wilkenson has a grub screw like the Paul Reed Smiths. ZERO arm slop. Nice and firm.
Very helpful! Thank you!
You're welcome!
thank you sir
You're welcome :)
My hands are exactly the same size as yours (just measured) and I had a guitar teacher who INSISTED that I try to play "Jimi style" with the thumb wrapping around. Of course it was easy for him because he had long fingers, but he told me that I just need to "keep stretching it." I tried and tried. It was painful and frustrating and I never made any real progress.
Eventually, I think I did some ligament damage to my fretting hand. I quit that guitar teacher and haven't tried another since. I realized that he simply was too lazy and/or ignorant to adapt his teaching to the physical reality of my hands. He was comfortable playing that way and could or would not teach any other way of playing --- and he blamed me for "failing to stretch" my fingers to be like his.
Sorry to hear that. I don't understand this absolute determination of some people to insist there's only one way to do something, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
He’s a moron. You can’t stretch bones. 🤦🏻♂️
Now it's starting to make sense why I'm having such a hard time playing guitar. I have very small hands exactly same size as yours. And there are some chords I just can't no way in the world are so uncomfortable.
Cue everyone with bigger hands telling you to try harder ;)
Oh boy, now I discovered that I have a hand only 17 cm, well this explains why sometimes playing guitar is so hard by the away amazing video man
Thanks for the compliment, much appreciated :)
My hand is still way smaller. Not even 1 of my fingers reaches 3 inches.
I have small hands, dupentryns contracture in both hands with arthritis. Sounds like playing guitar is insane right? No, it actually helps but i have to modify everything and somethings i just can’t. So thank you. I play a 84’ strat squire based on the 50’ model. Thanks for this
I'm glad you liked the video, thanks for the feedback :)
Yeah, my middle finger is only 3", so, that is REAL small. No wonder I had a hard time trying to play a full size acoustic. But, Fender Squire Contemporary Stratocaster might be the way to go for me, on a budget and who doesn't love the Strat sound?
Absolutely :) Hope it goes well for you!
Also, I see some people asking about Mistangs and Jaguars. They are cool. But not for everything.
I would recommend trying one of the Squier Bullet or Sonic Mustangs. I have 3. They are inexpensive and not bad at all.
Oh, I'd forgotten about the Bullet! A friend of mine once owned one and I loved playing that. Yeah, I should definitely give that a try.
It is nice to see someone who actually lives in the real world on this issue. I must say that electric is way, way easier than acoustic. There are many more options and many more places to hide. On acoustic, for example-at least when accompanying yourself-the bass notes often are essential. My two keys there are: (1) Recognize that there are lots of things you’ll never do that others can, but that there are still many ways to get to a serviceable sound. It’s a palette, and we just have fewer paints than those with larger hands. Still lots of colors to use. (2) Within reason (and here’s where I disagree with you a bit), push the envelope with stubbornness and practice. I can do a reasonable F barre, even when fingerpicking (I might muff a note or two), and I think my hands are smaller than yours. Yes, I have to be WAY more precise and quick than a person with larger hands, but it works, mostly. I’ve done hundreds of shows, played on commercial radio, and recorded three records. Am I a great player? Not close. Good enough? Yep.
Thanks for the feedback, and, of course, you're absolutely right. The handicap is real, but if I practiced harder my ability to reach those nearly-notes would improve.
@@OneManAndHisSongs By the way, I checked, and my middle finger is a bit under 3” 😂
I guess that should be an inspirational story for small-handed guitarists. I have had a long, wonderful guitar journey, playing full-size guitars. Though I am mainly a singer-songwriter, I did once even play lead in a band (Les Paul/PRS) for a few years. And it has little to do with height-I’m 6’2”!
Last thing: Given your useful attitude and approach, you might want to do a “Part II” on how this affects the *strumming* hand/any tips. (Never seen that anywhere, but the struggle is real.) Among other things, makes palm muting much harder (precision, again!), eliminates some muted strum techniques (at least for me), makes it impossible to anchor your picking hand with your pinky whilst fingerpicking, and-most challenging-requires a less secure pick grip (I can’t bend my finger to hold the pick against the knuckle as generally recommended). Then maybe your hands are big enough to avoid those things 😉
That's an interesting idea. I'll add it to my 'to-do' list. I'd honestly never considered why I had such difficulty palm muting. It makes complete sense now that I think about it. (I actually play almost exclusively without a plectrum, and never considered that hand size might have been a contributing factor in that.)
@@OneManAndHisSongs Yep. I love palm muted, percussive strums with fretted chords. Unfortunately, I can only do a limited number of these, and only the simplest. My right hand isn’t large enough to mute the necessary strings whilst getting far enough away from the strings to smoothly execute the strum. A “floating” hand whilst Travis picking is also challenging, especially if you’re singing over it. A final thing: Absolute precision is essential for some things, but sometimes that requires looking at the fretboard (for corrections or to save something). That’s a no-no when performing, and actually interferes with fluidity and rhythm (I believe). Thus, live (acoustic anyway, what I do these days), I keep bells and whistles to an absolute minimum, and try to win folks over with my songs, looks, and winning personality 😉
Ironically I prefer Travis picking with a floating hand. When I use an anchor it feels jarring and clumsy. (Not that I'm any whiz at the style, but it's interesting what feels comfortable to different people.)
Thank you for the help and advice,i truly appreciate this help
You are so welcome!
Sir I need some tips as I'm have small hands my index finger is 60 mm and also I have wrist fusion which makes it more difficult
I had no idea that I should be looking for different ways to play a chord. I just figured that with time I could do it. Thank you for helping me see this. By the way. Your favorite F position- I right away heard Bread's "Make it With You" :)
I'm really glad you found the video useful, thanks for the feedback! OMG yeah, that is QUITE the tune - not listened to it an ages (but am doing so as I type)!
Excellent thank you . what do you think of the Wizard 2 neck on Ibanez guitars . im a small handed player and just thinking of purchasing one
The JS-1000 is the only Ibanez I've owned, and I think they have a different profile. As far as the JS is concerned, it's absolutely amazing, but that wasn't the question :)
THIS! This is the video I needed to see.
Cool, glad you enjoyed it :)
I liked the first half of the video. Yes, buy a guitar with a narrow neck and smaller frets (you can go to a guitar tech and ask him to grind down your jumbo frets that come with almost every guitar today), also nut width and scale length are important for comfort. I love the advice about ergonomics, I never considered it before.
But the last part where you say “don’t do a bar F” or “don’t add a higher 7th to an Am7 chord” I really don’t agree with. I have the same measurements of fingers as you, and I promise you can do an F or an Am7 comfortably in any possible shape. Don’t limit what you play or not play because you have a bit smaller hands, and do train for flexibility and grip strength. This is coming from a guy with a thick necked, 25.5” scale length fender telecaster
Fair enough. In my defence, I struggled for about 30 years with hand pain playing an F before I gave up. I tried every warm-up technique and alternative fingering I could find, too, and none of them helped.
My hands are a few mm bigger than yours but my pinky is my biggest problem as when stretching it always tries to go towards the other fingers & not away from them & therefore sometimes cannot easily reach its desired note. I think I'll have to wear a strap when sitting to elevate the angle of the neck a bit more. I have always thought it weird though that I always have to buy size L gloves (which pretty much fit the length of my fingers except for the pinky), so there must be some really small handed people out there.
Wearing a strap when seated was an absolute game changer for me. It really helps with posture too.