How Alcohol Taxes Save Lives | NYT Opinion
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- The Opinion Video above is about a drug problem - but not the one you may think. While the United States struggles to deal with the opioid crisis, there’s a quieter drug epidemic that has been unfolding for a lot longer. It involves a substance that was normalized long ago but that, by some measures, plays a role in more than 140,000 deaths a year.
It’s alcohol.
But don’t worry. We here at Opinion Video are not a bunch of temperance reformers coming to take away your six-packs and single malts. We just think there’s a lot more that American lawmakers could be doing to lessen the harm that alcohol causes.
Sure, the government has set limits on how, where, when and to whom alcohol can be sold. But there’s another highly effective measure that officials have largely ignored: tax increases.
This isn’t a new idea. Yet alcohol taxes have remained stubbornly stagnant.
Alcohol taxes are typically excise taxes imposed on producers and sellers, who generally pass along those costs to consumers. But excise tax rates are based on a fixed amount per volume of alcohol. So, unless lawmakers periodically increase them, the rates can quickly lose value because of inflation.
As a result, researchers say, the costs of alcohol-related harm - including expenses related to health care, law enforcement and losses in workplace productivity - have dwarfed alcohol tax revenues.
Philip J. Cook, a Duke University professor emeritus and an expert on alcohol policy, says the solution is higher taxes. “The goal is not prohibition, but moderation,” he writes in his book “Paying the Tab.” “Alcoholic beverages are too cheap for our own good.”
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I love that NYT is posting this on Cinco de Mayo, a day when non Mexicans find an excuse to get drunk.
Cinco6de Mayo is an American thing. Like St Patrick's day.
All so we can drink.
@@BebbaDubbs Too right. America took over St. Patrick's Day long ago and now we've taken over CdM. I don't "celebrate" either.
“… an excuse…” 😂😂😂
Actually, most people don't need an excuse to drink alcohol. They just do it.
@@BebbaDubbs No it isn't Lmfao! It's a huge celebration in Mexico commemorating their defeat of invading French forces in Mexico City, mid 1800's. You really shouldn't comment on things you are clueless about.
If alcohol was discovered today, it would be far more strictly regulated
Most the toxic products we use are from our grandparents days just different variants. I agree.
Alcohol is a carcinogen as soon as it interacts has with the enzymes in our saliva. It is one of the most deadly things that we consume. Myself included.
Point is?
@Donnell Okafor Not missing out on anything at all but good health.
Whan alcohol was prohibited the money went to the mafias. The war on drugs fails the same way today, yet the lesson remains unlearned.
In Scotland, they set minimum unit pricing on alcohol. In the first year the results were great, we in Ireland then implemented it. Two years on and the same government study in Scotland showed alcohol usage went back near the same levels and the poor were sacrificing food and clothing expenses to keep their habit.
We have a different drinking culture though, so maybe it might work for you and not just be another poor tax.
So you've tried it, it failed and turned into just another tax on the poor, but it just might work for us if we can be the first to do it right? Gotcha. 👍
💯% it def would put a higher burden on the poor especially the children of. alcoholic poor 😪
This whole video was just condescending. "This tax is fair" if you don't drink you don't pay. No mention of taxes that don't work
@@alfredthemaverick7626 Yep. Entirely condescending.
2:18, what about all these studies then? The benefits are not distributed equally?
Im struggling with alchohism in my 20s, i wish it was more of a concen for people, especially in the way that it can affect any person at any stage in their lives.
Wałcz,bo walczysz o życie,nasz kolega walczył ponad 25lat,ale przegrał,narządy wewnętrzne po kolei kończyły się i już nie było ratunku,był pielegniarzem. w Schronisku. dla zwierząt,kochał zwierzęta a one Jego, uratował tysiące bezdomnych zwierząt i uratowałby jeszcze więcej.Jego walka z alkoholem. to była wojna.. Bernadetty.Polska.
Get to an AA meeting. Worked for me - 29 years sober. You can do it!
Mate, be strong and take
I am rooting for you my friend 🙏🙏
Going from my loose understanding of the UK’s raising of tobacco tax, I recall the following concern: that taxes on these goods (alcohol included) disproportionately affect the poor. A poorer person is more likely to feel the effect of an extra 50p, whereas a wealthier person won’t bat an eyelid. This “no brainer” video is happy to let people keep drinking alcohol and, by implication, happy to make poorer people pay more to drink alcohol (relative to their income and subjective value). I would imagine that alcohol-related illnesses and violence might be higher in those populations but, then, mental health, the quality of the local area, and of living conditions are far worse - the things that alcohol might represent an escape from. Please correct me if I am wrong, but this video appears to lack any ethical considerations for the implication of this tax?
I believe you are right. I would really love it, if there was a way to make drinking (alcohol) less popular because it really ruins so so many lives every day. But taxes will probably really not deter people from drinking, best example would be the homeless on the streets which probably have the highest drug (and alcohol) addiction rate of all people and they surely don't have the money to afford their nasty habits. So while rich people will not care about the tax the poor people will take sacrifices on other parts (eating, clothing, healthcare, ...) to be able to continue their addiction. I don't know how to solve this problem and it likely will never be overcome. Looking at the tobacco industry there were many tax rises and it's universally agreed that smoking is bad and not even cool anymore but it still persists and the tobacco industry is still going strong. Humans likely being the most intelligent species on this planet doesn't mean we are really smart; maybe the competition is just really weak.
It's the New York Times. What else would you expect?
I think we should start asking bigger questions about society and phenomena like this. A bigger question is, "why do poorer people feel the need to escape through alcohol?" An even bigger question is, "Why are there poor people?" I think this is a problem related to unmet needs. If everyone's basic needs were truly met, would people rely so heavily on alcohol? Under capitalism, ALL of our basic needs are locked behind paywalls, and until we collectively get to a point where we realize that's WEIRD AF (because it truly is), people will continue to look for an escape. We can do better than this.
I remeber cigarettes tax had the effect of reducing cigarette consumption in india. But then again the culturebon smoking and drinking are vastly different
The original gateway drug is alcohol.
So many people wouldn't have started harder stuff if they never started with alcohol
Alcohol lowers inhibitions so of course it leads to bad decisions.
Having just returned from Europe qhere alcohol is significantly less expensive I'm unsure how long term this solution is. My european colleagues always express sticker shock at American alchol prices, butbthen get used to it. If you raise the cost of drinking 10 or 20%, people might slow down at first, but theyll go back.
There is a recent study that came out concluding that no amount if alcohol is safe. But no one ever thinks anything bad is going to them.
In the Philippines, they put high taxes on all vices like cigarettes and alcohol. They call it sin taxes.
Because of this, less than 10% of the population smoke. There is also an incredibly low rate of accidents caused by DUIs.
Giving up alcohol makes you more present,more aware and ironically more happy.
It really didn't work that way for me. I always feel excluded at parties when everyone else is drinking and I'm the only person who stays sober.
@@moos5221 .. it takes time .. a phenomenal book .. The Easy Way to Control Alcohol by Allen Carr is a game changer.
@@kathleenr4861 Hm, I doubt it's a book for me, since I didn't give up alcohol voluntarily but due to non-alcohol related health reasons. So when others drink and I can't it just more so reminds me of my sad fate.
@@moos5221 There is a program called "Alcoholics Anonymous". It might be worth a look.
@@easydiddit Thank you, but I'm not an alcoholic. I'm abstinent for different health reasons. I'm not missing the buzz or something, I'm annoyed of missing out on the socializing that goes along with alcohol consumption and also when you can't do a certain thing because of health issues it hurts to be confronted with it constantly. Imagine a blind person being told how beautiful the sunset is every day.
My 2020 dry January is still going strong. Sure, sometimes I want a drink. But always for the wrong reason. The most interesting thing about it is that almost all people complementing me with it. Confirming how hard it is to not drink alcohol regularly. People need this drug, that has no stigma on it, and allows people from all walks of life to enjoy themselves. There is just now way around it, people need intoxication to escape. If it isn't alcohol, it will be something else. We cannot yoga ourselves out of every situation or moment. And with taxing bad habits governments get dependent on them. Only maybe if the tax goes directly to healthcare, but who are we kidding.
Maybe find out the reasons people are drinking so much, like maybe their compensating for the social fabric falling apart, or America losing every war for the past 2 decades, or the lower standard of living, if you want people to drink less maybe don't destroy their lives with terrible economic policies, just a thought
maybe it's because drinking is regarded as a positive social interaction and non-drinkers are frowned upon and excluded from society? it's not just an american problem, alcohol abuse exists in every nation in the world.
Most western countries have a positive and social acceptance towards alcohol. Hence the alcoholism rate will be higher than in other countries
Nobody wins war
Here in Europe, we Spaniards have one of the lowest tax rates on alcohol, and still drink much less than our northern neighbors. The reason for that is very simple:... No, I'm just joking. It's not simple at all. But I believe it has to do with "being cool". Smoking used to be cool, and now not any more. People now smoke less.
Yes , plus in northern Europe drinking is more socially acceptable or even expected
America has spent decades trying to fight marijuana…when we should have been fighting alcohol abuse.
Minimum unit pricing for alcohol just punishes poor people for liking alcohol.It's not a solution to any problem.
Yeah, bring back the Volstead Act, moonshine stills, rum running, speakeasies, and the Temperance Party. That worked so well one hundred years ago.
What’s really makes this risky for politicians is less so what the general electorate feels about higher taxes, but the party primary voters. Primary voters are are the most likely to be extreme and intolerant of any tax hikes, and politicians have to win their primaries first.
It sounds logical and would probably be effective. However, you have to look at the issue of self medication and the reasons why people self medicate. Alcohol is more affordable than medication and many aspects of our culture are the reason people self medicate w/alcohol.
The graphs are not accurate as the demographic pool of people who drink is drastically larger than the drug user pool it’s compared to.
More drinkers = more deaths in comparison.
It’s like saying more people die of bicycle crashes than unicycle crashes.
So if a million people die from drinking it's no problem since 200 million people are drinking but it wouldn't be okay if a million people died if just 10 million were drinking? EIther way, 1 million people die from drinking, that is a problem, no matter how many people do drink. And for alcohol the death toll is just the tip of the iceberg. The violence it causes, the traffic accidents that happen only because someone was drunk, the hundreds of billions it costs the healthcare system every year...all these things matter and make alcohol the most impactful drug of all, BECAUSE so many people drink.
yeah as i mentioned in my other comment i just made this op ed has SO MANY examples of implying that a correlation indicates a causation it’s unreal.
As someone coming at this from a politically conservative frame of mind, the use of taxes in this way amount to social engineering. While the goal in this case is laudable and I don’t disagree that we have many issues in the US around alcohol, I find the Orwellian undertones of this line of reasoning shocking. Taxes should only exist to fund the government, and should be levied in the least intrusive way possible. We should resist attempts by our government to use the tax system as a tool with which to control us, regardless of whether or not we agree with the desired outcome.
The South has the highest tax on beer. Tennessee charged close to $6 per case of beer. Plus their nearly 10% sales tax. A 24 pack of Corona is close to $48 in much of the state. You can get it for $40 at Costco but those big stores are only in the big towns. Cost for that same case in New England is around $30 after sales tax. Seems religious conservatives want to raise taxes on such things after all.
4:07 "Don't we elect [politician's] to makle unpopular decisions?" What???? That is the opposite of what we elect people to do, they are supposed to implement the policies that people want, that's the whole point of democracy.
This is a very important conversation. I've been drinking way too heavily for most of my adult life. I've seen tobacco destroy people I love, and now alcohol is destroying me. I've thought a lot about prohibition, and if I would bother to learn brewing/distilling if I couldn't just walk into a store and buy the stuff. I don't think I would; I don't think most people would.
But saying "increasing the taxes on alcohol reduces usage" is simplistic. It's like saying less drownings occur in neighborhoods without pools. It's not like raising the price on a car; it's an addictive substance, people who need their fix will pay almost anything.
I don't have a solution. If I did, I wouldn't be drinking so much myself. But I promise you that the cost of alcohol isn't the solution. There's wider subjects to tackle, primarily about mental health and the economy, but neither of those things are easily solved, or even understood, for that matter.
Nope. This is not what the sociological data shows. Quite the contrary. The disadvantaged suffer more if you tax alcohol. It's seductive to think of alcohol like cigarettes, from a public health perspective. But the two are nearly as different as they are alike.
I don't drink, but I used to, & I didn't quit for any reason beyond wanting to live healthier. Alcohol is literally poison. BUT... In the hellscape that we've made of this world, I think people should be allowed to get as drunk as they want at a fair price. A better fix would be do increase the penalties for alcohol related crimes, especially drunk driving.
Well-said!
When they edited the city skyline with the bottles and the sound i just laughed even though i shouldn't I'm sorry god i have sold my soul 🤣
Increase taxes on cars, guns, alcohol and tobacco. Right?
Just because some people are morons doesn’t mean when they drink doesn’t mean people who aren’t stupid should pay more. It’s collective punishment. Hurting the responsible people who aren’t a problem
I do not drink alcohol. Offhand I don't know if I know ANYONE who does not drink. And they are very protective of it.
Agree 100%. Usually I don't agree with NYT but this one is so obvious.
If we're gonna legalize cannabis with low taxes at the same time, I'm in.
More taxes on alcohol might be a problem if you want to use it for fuel.
I don't drink at all so if everyone else didn't drink also... Lots of problems avoided. See how easy that is?
I thought it was gonna be something crazy like lace all beer with laxatives or something. This is way more reasonable!
Didn't work with smoking, won't work with booze.
You're just abusing people that have addictions. They aren't your atms
exactly.
So make weed legal. When you do that, alcohol consumption goes down along with all the attendant problems it causes. Giving folks an alternative is far better than prohibition or raising taxes.
Żadna legalizacja,ten Twój chwast to pierwsze schody do następnych narkotyków i do śmierci,coraz więcej ofiar cholernych dilerów, których bożkiem. jest cholerny hajs,pieniądz rządzi tym biednym światem... Bernadetty.Polska.
highly unlikely that legalisation of another drug is going to cure the problems of alcohol. and if it does and weed causes problem, maybe we should legalise cocaine next, to cure weed addictions.
@@moos5221 Cute. But as I said, it's already KNOWN that legalizing weed reduces alcohol use. So your assumptions aren't correct, kiddo.
@@Serai3 it's also known that weed causes brain damage, think about that...if you can...
@@moos5221 AHAHAHAHA Get your head out of the '40's, kiddo.
Every place that can sell alcohol should also be required to sell weed. I know too many men, women, and children who have been assaulted by drunk people, but none by stoned people.
Drugs are bad mkay
This is a punitive measure, not a preventative one. Will it work, no. Poor people will get desperate and there will be absolutely 0 change for the well off. Bad idea.
How about we give people a reason not to drink.
Alcoholics Anonymous has a program of recovery that works. No dues, no fees.
@@easydiddit it’s a cult
In finland alcohol is really expensive yet alcoholism is just as prevalent
This is a HUGE cultural problem. HUGE. Thanks for discussing it. Raising taxes won't fix the issue, though.
In many countries, it did.
@@milhouse14 it was not the taxes on its own.
"Please, I need other ppl to tell me what to eat, what to drink, what to think, I can't handle freedom!!"
Muh freedumbs
This is an idiotic article, because the journalist doesn't link the taxing of alcohol with the funding of programs and education/training that will ameliorate the concomitant problems.
One Wayne Wheeler is plenty. We don't need another.
As for taxes, thats just as certain as death.
I agree. There's no argument that can hold weight against sobriety. Improved memory, better quality of life, less depression, less automobile fatalities, long-term health benefits, and less domestic violence are just a few upsides that come with tapering America's alcohol dependency. Unfortunately, we're a country that follows the profit rather than following the data.
Yes, tax it more please
What about all the people who run a bar or any other shop that rely on alcohol sale?
Honestly I don't get you guys. Junk food can lead to obesity and death if consumed in a large amount but it doesn't mean we should penalize everybody
Gotta say NYT, I'm becoming a bit weary with this "emphatically instructive" tone of narration in your videos. Maybe dial it down a notch and talk to us like adults.
Yeah it's not the society problem, it's not the schools or the economy that brings people down. It's the alcohol.
Alcohol is so insidious becuase it's so commonplace, I don't think it has a good place in the world at all. 9 years ago (I was 23 yo at the time) I sat for an hour and a half with my dad (48 yo) and watched him die of liver failure, it was the most painful thing I've experienced in my life. I broke my leg the other year and it was extremely uncomfortable, fighting tears through sleepless nights as I was only running T3s and honestly Alcohol was a factor in the broken leg, but I would rather go through that broken leg 1000 times than watch my dad die again. Unfortunately i became an alcoholic after my dad's death but I hate it with all my being. I quit for 6 months after reading Allen Carr's Easy Way (which affirmed some of my feelings about alcohol) but that was in the midst of the pandemic and I buckled after work stress. I hate it so much, and I know this isn't the man my wife met, I have a therapist appointment a week monday and I'm hoping to shake this once and for all.
My life is really awesome, the only hang-up is Alcohol. If I can fix this, my life is perfect. I wouldn't be mad at a government if they took action on alcohol, I'm Canadian tho so unfortunately it's ultimately up to you Yanks at the end of the day.
Didn't America try this already?
amen
its crazy to me ppl think alcohol isnt a drug bc its legal
Drugs are bad mkay
If they won't save children, they won't save adults.
Save yourself
there ya go, just make it unattainable for the people who use it the most, who also dont have a lot of $. this country is f'ed
Making alcohol is pretty simple
Alcohol taxes are fair sinceconly those who drink pay it. plus people who excessively drink cost the health system more and these taxes help cover those costs without burdening those who don't drink
but those already drunk too much are the most vulnerable around us, it's not fair to charge them extra
This same method has not decreased smoking. It doesn’t work.
Try to focus the tax on a cost per volume of actual alcohol, not price. Narrow in on the risk factor. The relative increase in cost of drinking at home will be lower than seen at businesses.
YOUR SAYING LET PUT A BANDAGE ON IT AND CALL IT GOOD🚽
taxes just harm the impoverished and enrich the govt. why not mandate education? for all substances for that matter. make treatment more acceptable, affordable AND accessible
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The taxation argument is ludicrous unless you go all out and make 5 drinks cost a week's wages. People who are under the alcoholism monkey will find a way. However, what if you take those taxes and funnel them directly into mental healthcare for addiction?! People who drink excessively past their teens and early twenties are connecting with the bottle and not humanity...
Human bean 🫘
There’s enough politicians who could change things but there’s even more corporate machines with unlimited budgets and also sheep who align themselves with said corporations and politicians… so it’s never gonna change unfortunately.
So, are you telling me that the poor can’t get drunk?
There's always a way...
If you’re poor I’m sure there’s better things you should be doing with your life
@@wizzard9531 I would say the exact opposite. If you're rich, then it's illogical to get high or drunk and throw your life away like that, but when you're poor, what can you lose? A miserable life? Fk that...get drunk every day, there will always be a way.
how about this, In India, delhi local government taxed alcohol and other Pigouvian taxes were increasing and govt used a partial of that money to give free electricity to everyone who wanted which is nearly everyone and free Bus transportation to Women and other part of money is being used in beautification process of old mughal era markets and streets which direly needed as those 100s of yrs of old bazaars were in desperate need of makeover. Bonus: People drink less
never mind the number of white papers that speak of the abuse of Alcohol to cause such deep damage...is now being shown general use also causes its own issues.
I’ll be back
THAT'S EASY;END POVERTY.
THIS 👏🏽 RIGHT 👏🏽 HERE 👏🏽. We have to meet people's needs! It's definitely possible.
Kaffee ist auch nicht so gut.
O problema do álcool foi mencionado O exagero. Nós bebemos o primeiro copo e queremos beber a garrafa toda. Misturalos álcool e sentimentos. Estamos triste bebemos, estamos felizes bebemos e esquecemos do dia seguinte e isso causa problemas. Devemos nos reeducar, pois sempre há dias novos para comemorar.
I just listened to a lot of bold assertions but when I scrolled down to the description area looking for the references to back them up I didn't seem to find any. Well that certainly was disappointing, but certainly not surprising. Maybe if I re-watch the credits with the speed at 25% I'll find something? Nope. But ironically it made the narrator sound like she was drunk!
I don’t disagree that alcohol is the cause of a lot of problems. However, to compare to cocaine and meth is inaccurate. The number of people that drink to the number of alcohol deaths compared to meth and cocaine usage and deaths shows otherwise. I’m fine with taxing alcohol, however I believe any money be spent on programs to support those in recovery and damage caused by alcohol. Responsible people who do not have a genetic predisposition to alcoholism should not be overly penalized for drinking. There is no perfect solution, however getting rid of the marketing for alcohol is good start.
good luck getting rid of the marketing. it's everywhere. it sponsors all the big sports leagues and events, all over the world.
Where was cannabis on that chart?
I live in Singapore (as a US citizen) and it has crazy high taxes on alcohol (a 6-pack of Bud costs $23 USD) and I must say it keeps people from drinking, none of my friends or family here drink much. A bottle of gin is around $60 USD on average, it's crazy BUT, not as many alcoholics or drunk driving accidents overall. Hard to admit but this video is right, higher taxes on alcohol help keep more people alive. I have a few friends and family members in the USA that are borderline alcoholics, they LIVE for it like it's everything. To me, that existence is a narrow view of the bigger picture happening all around you which is full of life and opportunity. Go explore that big picture. Be blessed.
It might work on countries that have been doing it for a long time (along with other social factors that you forgot to mention, funny enough, for a person that lives in Singapore).
But it won't be as successful in countries where the disease is far spread and deeply ingrained in the culture.
"rate of serious car crashes involving alcohol fell by 6%" seems like the wrong thing to point to. Serious car crashes that involve alcohol are not somehow worse than those that don't. What matters is whether the rate of serious car crashes decreased. I imagine it did decrease but by a less impressive-sounding percentage. Even so, it would have been the better thing to cite
It’s not the wrong thing to point to in a video about the deleterious effects of alcohol. The video is not about car crashes overall. It’s about alcohol use and abuse, the effects thereof, and potential ways to mitigate them.
@@lim4275 It is a good policy goal to reduce the rate of serious car crashes, and I imagine that an alcohol sales tax would be a good intervention to make progress on that goal, although this video didn't give direct evidence of that. A policy goal of reducing the rate of serious car crashes involving a drunk driver doesn't make any sense, because you could theoretically achieve it while the rate of serious car crashes stays the same, if the rate of serious car crashes where the drivers are sober goes up.
@@tomwilkinson9235 it's just a by-product worth mentioning. it's not about the car crashes at all. it's about the deseases caused by alcohol. just like smoking is about lung cancer and other deseaases but will of course also protect the environment if smoking was completely banned and no cigarette buds would be flung into the bushes. Me mentioning that will hopefully not trigger you to lament about protecting the environment is good but banning smoking isn't the way to do it, because ex-smokers might fling more coffee-to-go cups into the bushes now that they can't smoke anymore...
All of these addictions are the 'disease of despair'. Citizens lose hope when they live in a society where our policies allow the 1% obscenely rich to skim off the vast majority of the GDP generated by our economy. Reduce despair, reduce addiction.
The disease is alcoholism, There is a solution...There is a program of recovery. Look up Alcoholics Anonymous. There is hope here... It works.
Taxing the poor seems like a bad idea. But let’s compromise and ban candy flavoured drinks.
No
Many drugs should be legal, regulated, and taxed. We did not evolve to handle these drugs, but we also know prohibition doesnt work. Taxing them forces us to make (semi) rational decisions about consumption. Same goes for other addictive substances like sugar. We dont like the idea of taxing sugar, but its an objectively good way to balance out our in built addiction to it.
Commie
sugar tax would solve nothing. just like alcohol tax. it's a problem of the society and as long as alcohol, tobacco and sugar are praised in the media advertisements and as long as the companies got our politicians in their pockets nothing will change. i don't think humanity is smart enough to not destroy itself.
What you nerd is to address the need for it. Why people need to self-medicate to cope. Until you do that, then you're rearranging the deck chairs.
Speak for yourself
yes i like
this is so short sighted. How is it fair? You just make it harder to get access to alcohol, meaning people with money won't feel a thing when poor folks will suffer. What happens when an alcoholic can't pay for food and alcohol? And what happen to their kids? Instead of raising tax, you should look into the root cause and wonder why people drink more and more. There's an underlying problem here and raising the price won't work. Illegal drugs are still sold in the street, making them illegal didn't work either.
not to mention the amount of alcohol that is contrabanded and sold without taxes.
the "journalists" behind this video are clueless.
@@anonymous-user I wouldn't go as far as to qualify them as journalists. It's a very weak idea that a group of middle schoolers could have come with.
nanny state
There are easily 50 liquor bottles in my house, they have been there for as long as I remember, every now and then, 1 or 2 years 1 empties and another one replaces it.
But no one is my home gets drunk, we sip a bit on some occasions. So by always seeing moderation no siblings ever took a glass for themselves.
I drink 2 beer cans once or twice a moth when it is too hot outside.
Bruh, what are you trying to say?
@@peter_de_Jong817 With the example of our elders drinking with moderation and never to the point of getting drunk we also don't drink past a self-imposed limit.
@@erdvilla Alcoholism is a desease. you don't have it. Your "example" is irrelevant.
you can't analise these things on a personal level.
you have to have an overview of a society or a nation.
that's why the video mentions statistics.
This will increase the parallel production of alcohol. The solution is to prohibit propaganda.
one of the solutions, definitely. but not the only one.
Ahh yes let the rich drink themselves to death lmao
"We are not a bunch of temperance reformers out to take away your six packs and single malts" sounds EXACTLY like what a bunch of temperance reformers out to take away our six packs and single malts would say. Disguising that through taxes is just a condescending dirty trick.
Free Gonzalo Lira!
You can always make alcohol at home if it gets too expensive
You are proposing
common sense laws.
They are neither common nor accepted as sensible in the US these days.
Guns, specifically assault weapons, opioids, alcoholic beverages.
Who is profiting?
And everybody pays...one way or another, always.
@@easydiddit
almost everybody
there are certain people who have a net gain, some of them a grand gain
of course someone had to mention guns. just because it's universally agreed that it is completly idiotic to equip every person with several guns doesn't mean that it will ever stop. same with alcohol, tobacco and other drugs, of course it's idiotic to poison yourself, but the huge profit margin is all that counts.
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sweden does this. Idk if it did anything
It doesn't. People just buy their spirits across the border.
Literally 1984
lol, #firstworldproblems 😆
Alcohol is never, ever, not in a zillion years ever going away !
I don’t want to live in a world without alcohol… ever!
There is a better alternative. Alcoholism is a disease and can be treated. A much more peaceful, decent life is possible. A.A. can show you the way
this is not about you.
fair enough, it is good to point out that alcohol is far more inherently dangerous than many illegal drugs, and pointing out the issue about the alcohol lobby is also good. but at the same time life in “uncertain” times like these is undeniably stressful for most americans, and many will turn to alcohol. especially since there is a cost of living crisis at the moment i don’t know that this is the common sense idea this author thinks it is. some combination of an increased social safety net, a guarantee of quality nondiscriminatory healthcare and a system that emphasizes prevention as well as treatment, and universal access to mental health and addiction treatment, as well as perhaps a robust affordable public transit system would address the root cause of most of these issues and improve society as a whole. however these do not align with the interests of not only the alcohol lobby but also those who hold wealth and power in the u.s. in general, making them far more unlikely to happen than an alcohol tax would ever be. i am not against the tax per se, a band aid solution is better than no solution i guess, but it should be understood as such. i am really against op eds like these that gloss over the root causes of societal issues and act like they can be fixed with small tweaks to our current system when that isn’t true. and one more thing is that although i get that this is a short piece i think the fact that it could be published as it is speaks to the fact that many lack media literacy. to evidence the effectiveness of an alcohol tax, the author uses two states as examples, when this clearly is not sufficient. “x states raised their alcohol tax and alcohol related diseases decreased” is correlation, not causation. you could easily suppose that the states in question at this time were more willing to raise taxes in general and used these funds from general tax increases to support other programs that caused these results. you could speculate that maybe more liberal, tax-friendly governments were only able to take control as a result of demographic shifts which caused this result (i.e. if a population is younger they’re less likely to suffer from diseases in general). drunk driving could be down in general as a result of increased access to rideshare services, and this could be cherrypicked as evidence to support the idea that the alcohol tax caused decreased drunk driving deaths. i am not saying that the alcohol tax is wrong necessarily, that really is not the hill i’m gonna die on here, but the point is that the journalism/evidence as well as the framing here is really subpar.
i didnt read that and no one will.
stress is not an excuse to get drunk. period.
@@anonymous-user yeah it shows because that has nothing to do with what i said. whether it is moral to drink has nothing to do with anything. nobody is making or even asking you read my comment. i hope you enjoy the rest of your life having zero thoughts on any topics and trying to bring other people down for caring about anything.
As much as I enjoy a stiff drink, I cannot disagree with this logic.
LEAGALIZE it BAN ALCOHOL
Islam prohibits drinking alcohol, this is the true religion and you must learn it