In the training menu while I search for a match I use the shortcuts which they ve fixed to be accessible in these particular cases and I don't have an actual problem. I advise you to do the same. I still don't understand why they haven't fixed the whole menu lock while searching for matches. Also, the menu's frustration is pure exaggerations...But coming from you its really not a surprise.
I know many players who just like myself don't use training mode in combination with the ranked search as it is too frustrating to deal with long term. I've been using the shortcut to access the battle settings since day 1 but it doesn't help with the core issue: Once you're connecting to a player (even if the connection attempt fails) you are locked out of the menus and even the shortcut for the battle settings.
@@mdz_jimmy Once again you made an uneducated video then. The shortcuts work normally.They have fixed it.When you search for a ranked/casual match you are no longer locked out of them.There are shortcuts for virtually everything in training mode. Check it and make a video again.😂
@@ultragalacticlightkick862 Yo thanks for sharing this info, I just checked and you are right. The menu is still not accessible but at least the shortcut is! I kinda wish this fix was communicated better as I didn't hear anything about it and none of my viewers seem to know about it! I will pin your comment so people can see there's "somewhat" of a fix for the menu lock. As for your first statement about being uneducated "once again": Everything I said in my DR video is 100% correct and no matter how much you like to argue about technicalities like the time shift doesn't change anything and is not "uneducated" but simply a difference in opinion.
@@mdz_jimmy No. I was telling you about the fix and you simply ignored me.I know you are playing the game and you can't commit 100% on the many comments but I told you about it at least two times on your streams. You just seem to forget about it afterwards. It has been fixed (at least the shortcuts access) for months now actually and you include it on your complaints video. It's funny!
Something else stupid about the training mode thing is also if you're looking for a ranked match you can't reset sometimes. I like to stay warm doing combos about it won't let me reset position when it's loading a ranked match
@@mdz_jimmy Resetting the training mode is annoying on Steam where SF6 doesn't support the Touch Pad/Func button. I'm currently trying to get used to press down 'L3 + Square' for a reset.
@@mdz_jimmy Sometimes I am stuck in this loop of being unable to turn off ranked for literal minutes at a time. It's gotten to the point that I turn the game off, and then boot the game again because it's faster.
Hi dude, fellow German here. I love this game (600 hours in 1 year) and I’ve had these EXACT same problems. One tip I can give you is that: when in training mode, with ranked search on, after a match, press the pause button IMMEDIATELY, so it will open before you can get locked out of the pause menu . And yeah, even though the Ui does have a ton of issues…. you have to admit it looks cool asf.
That used to be my strategy but as a streamer I like to pay attention to the chat while I'm not in a fight so whenever I interact with my audience I sometimes forget to press the shortcut for the battle settings and then I have to take the "10 second penalty" until I can finally use the menu again lol
one of my biggest pet peeves is that you can’t buy the exact amount of fighter coins for outfits and stuff. So many games do that and it’s so damn annoying. And rarely do I ever buy stuff in game because of it.
LOL I'm one of those freaks that like to put character-specific themes on individual characters. Leave us alone; we're already suffering 😂. While it's cool you can filter out for character themes based off of characters currently in the game, what about if you want music from a character that is not in the game, or want to look through music from a specific game? Capcom is like "Nope! You want to look for Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike music? Scroll all the way down, please." Good luck if you have several game soundtracks 😵💫
The term to use, Jimmy, is the “information architecture”. The options are there, and the UI is visually functional, but the way the options are grouped and flow to one another is drunk and on meth.
Another thing you didn't mention that was possible in V, but you can't do in 6. When you're in someone else's profile looking at their match history, you can't view replays directly from that page. You have to save each individual match you watch to watch to your replay list, then exit out of their profile, then navigate through multiple menus to get to your replay list, then watch it there. Then you have to keep cleaning out your saved replays to keep it from becoming too cluttered from replays you were probably only going to watch once anyway. That along with not being able view the opponents full profile from the post-match screen drive me crazy. Literally just make it the way it was in V and and we're good.
I hate the menu lock so much. I would love it if instead of adding avatar gear and Fight Passes, just one time, they fixed all this stuff... and while they're at it, come up with a better logo, and add a REAL intro like IV and V. SFV's menus and UI had none, absolutely none, of these retarded problems.
I LOVE this game but you are 100% spot on with these issues. They aren't critical, but if you're playing often or need to menu it starts to feel like a pain point. User EXPERIENCE is never prioritized in gaming. Games have a lot of things that don't respect the players time, load screens not given thought at all so you get them too often, excess menuing with no "search menu" option, locking the player out of the start button menu after a ranked match back into training. Little things that add up as you play. Capcom are receptive but these small things fall through the cracks.
I legitimately didn't know you could personalize the playlist in matches, my mind is blown. Until now, I thought the purchased music could only be listened to in the 'gallery' menu." ... wtf
I respectifully disagree. Jimmy barely talked about specific Training Mode problems. This UI has problems everywhere, but still talking only about your point: I know most of people barely touch the training mode, this...if they ever hit the dojo before. But for every FG, 90%+ of the time I'm in the training mode. I actually feel/enjoy the QoL changes but I hate every step back is made.
@biquiba the game is good but the UI is a disgrace. Virtua Fighter 5 Ultimate Showdown is what a UI should be. Totally simple, efficient and seamless. It's like capcom went out of their way to make the UI terrible. Otherwise it's bewildering why it is so bad. Why were they afraid to just make it simple?
I felt this rant in my soul. The menu feels so clunky and unorganized. I love a lot of the features they added, but trying to access them is so unintuitive. I wholly expect them to rework the menu for either Season 3 or 4. If it stays in its current state it will be quite a sad day.
There's worse, modern controls on default that you need to change for EVERY character. And what about the invitations from friends, no easy access, you need to go through the menu and find the room yourself, on top of that, what about exiting the slot? O button would leave the room. The menu was clearly designed by a sociopath
Yeah I forgot about modern controls being active by default. That's on purpose by Capcom but at least it should be easier to notice and change to classic.
The UI is good but I def agree that players have to do so much extra to get to where they want. One thing I hate is when you search for a replay on someone's profile, you have to save it first, then navigate to where you saved it. The replay should be viewable on the spot from the player's profile.
@@fatalradius You don't HAVE to save the replay. But you do have to go to Replay "Search", search for the User. From there you can view all their replays without saving.
My number 1 thing is dropped inputs or sometimes moves come out for me I swear I didn't mean too the other day I wasted my level 3 because I moved forward and back and pressed a normal slightly
You really need to check your inputs in a reply if you think this is happening. Sometimes there will be an execution error on your part and if you look at your inputs you will see if this is the case or not. This way you can identify if it is an error on your part or the game, either way you can adjust to eliminate the issue.
Good point on it being so involved to get to my replays. And I never knew how to get music for each character. Thanks. 🙂 The thing I hated most was the Could Not Verify Capcom ID link (to PSN) screen keeping me from online. After 9 months offline & emails to Capcom, I learned some gave up on SF6. I finally switched to a different PSN & got the link. Now doing online, & all content again (except some trials). But the DLC characters didn't carry over, so I may need to buy them again. 😑
@@eddy3080 I stumbled there once while also high on meth and booze ( like the UI designer), and then I found that there were two tiers of currency, and it brought on an immediate comedown and I gave up.
Correct me if I’m wrong here. You can return to training mode without auto queuing for ranked if you were in training mode in the first place when queuing for ranked and press quit ranked match. It throws you back to the training mode without you being in a queue. I do admit the menu not being able to open is kinda annoying at times tho.
Yeah I mentioned that in the video. It's technically possible to go to training mode without ranked search but for that I have to queue up in training mode which I NEED to avoid for my sanity. I seriously tried to resist the temptation of just sitting there in training mode and not actually try stuff but I always end up trying things and getting pissed off because of the menu lock 😅
@@mdz_jimmy it doesn’t exactly bother me as much but I can see why it would tick people off. I do admit the UI a cluster fk to use and getting locked out of the menu when loading is annoying. It depends whether the little loading globe logo is on the screen. I think they can implement a shortcut button to queue within training mode. So if you want to lab something specific you can “Quit Ranked Mode” lab it out then use a button to immediately requeue again without having to interact with the menu. I do think these issues need to be vocalized more and I just now realize how little to none these complaints are made in the internet. Hope they can make some of these changes sometime soon.
I remember when i first went into rank and my character had modern controls default and it took me some time to learn how to switch it, whenever you're not playing the actual game you really don't want to press any button in this shitty UI
Sorry about the wall of text but just had some thoughts and some tips for helping. It's quite mixed but the main issue that I agree on is that it's bad menus for sure. I agree about it being "cryptic" or basically you have to explore to find out. That's a shorter time needed for adjustment but still it could be better. Even though it's not easy to navigate even then. But the bgm list setting is when you are a higher up level in the gui. It makes total sense it's just there. Bgm specific menu under a bgm menu? How is that strange? It's hard to discover, that I can agree on. Thank consoles for shitty menu, 100% it's the #1 reason it is this way. I've always found that games that are cross-platform has a big impact and it is probably the worst menu system of games in my experience. Then there are the reasons why it's like it is. The training mode + search on is the effective way for being a default. The filter is obvious in replay. Why would you need to stop the search while killing time between matches? Rhetorical question. If you are playing ranked I'm very confident to say most people don't just do one and turning off for training mode no queue. If you are gonna play more ranked but want to have longer time to be in training before it, you can dismiss accepting the match. There are solutions for making it impossible to find a new ranked while training mode search is on, for PC at least, you'd need to be able to press a button on it if you play on console but depending on setups it's different in difficulty of writing the search off with just one binding in a script. A little something that blocks via firewall is an example. Not recommending and just mentioned it. Honestly you call bad efficiency or something else bad for what you personally like when you were on the ranked stuff.
Actually , if you set a function button short cut for online match making in training mode, you can instantly pause the rank search , then play with your menu. Then you’ll bypass the menu button freeze when searching for match.
Watching replays directly from match history (or on someones profile), accepting custom room invites is extremely unintuitive , sometimes not being able to say no to a match in Battle Hub when someone steals the cab. To name a few extra.
Training mode doesn’t automatically search for a match unless you specifically tell it to. You absolutely can enter training mode without searching for a match.
When you said you had to optimize the UI, it reminded me of a comment I saw on Angrybird’s video saying “he’s doing combos to the menu.” 🤣🤣 it’s accurate. Since I play on xbox, I can bring up the xbox menu to cancel match making so I can actually pause. Super annoying
This is just the tip of the iceberg too, there are SOOO many issues with the UI and a clean user experience. I truly believe that menu systems today are being designed by people with severe ADHD, or one group is just not talking to the other. BUT you only need ONE freaking menu with a few shortcut keys for matchmaking and other frequently used options. I don't think it's intentional, I just don't know what it was...
yeah i agree that replay options part just drive me up the wall and the menu get on my nerves too. its so strange that capcom has this weird mix of for a good thing they have/do there's this other annoying/bad thing and its like what weird balance is this lol
This is why Japan’s tech dominance hit a wall in the ‘90s. They could build the best hardware, create iconic games, lead the world in gadgets but their Achilles’ heel was the software. All those little quirks and limitations that just didn’t translate to the West. It wasn’t just language; it was culture embedded in the code. Incompatible with anyone outside the bubble.
My favourite is having to leave ranked on tilt, have to go all the way back to the first screen to load up, then you can access the 'leave to desktop'. Does it on purpose so you cant escape the game 😂
i only recently realised that they added a shortcut to enter training mode from the main menu, which ironically makes it quicker to exit out of fighting grounds and use the shortcut than to go into training from the fighting grounds menu. Just be glad you don't use battle hub jimmy, you'd probably have had an aneurysm by now.
To this day, I still have no idea how to change the "Move Name Display" language. It's always greyed out so it's like it's there for no reason. (Edit: just found it's only available when the language is set to Chinese, very weird restriction) Also, World Tour's training mode is so bare-bones that there's not even an option to change health so that means it's nearly impossible to test certain perks and CA's
I can sense that the menu configuration in SF6 was deliberately designed to trigger users like jimmy as a form of Satsui no Hado since they were never going to main Akuma.
I play on series x, if I press menu button first, I can access training mode options. Not sure if this is a glitch or just limited to console. Try pressing menu button first, the search prompt says paused, press it again, kinda curious if this works for pc as well.
I feel like an absolute god among men when I see people complaining about even slightly wonky UI lol. The only trouble I have with the menus is when checking replays, aside from that it's not that bad.
I personally find the game to be not that fun. Win or lose I'm usually frustrated with it and feels like I'm forcing myself to play (cause everyone else is) especially compared to the amount of fun i get playing fighters such as MVC2, Guilty Gear, Blazblue, DBFZ, Third Strike, Alpha 3, USF4, Tekken Tag...the list goes on 😺
If you turn on casters for a replay and then go back to ranked, the game will keep the casters on until you back all the way out to the main menu where you are allowed to disable them again.
Love this game but the menus are overall split terribly and interact with each other terribly, and don't get me started on region based matchmaking instead of ping based.
There was literally a patch for region based matchmaking. I'm in Europe and constantly coming up against people in Asia and the Middle East. Its an easy setting to change
The fact that this are all "nit picking" qol that for example me with 700 hours and patience and simply not caring much I didn't even notice is really good Especially since they can only improve in the future
@@MTMXBL That was the same situation I was in before. Gave up for several days until I decided to take the time to find out. Still can't tell you how to do it right now from memory though. It's similar to changing BGM I believe.
Badly designed and programmed anything also drive me insane. For SF6, I guess I’m used to it now, but for my work? I will forever be the guy who rants about it forever and ever (though yes that’s an entirely different case lol).
It feels like the vast majority of game for the past 4-6 years all have hostile UI design. It's the same shit in Tekken 8. Try looking for a replay or joining a player lobby that your friend is hosting and it's like being locked in a fucking escape room. You didn't even mention the part where those stupid fucking popups appear when you're trying to do something like combo trials and they block all of the inputs on the screen so you literally have to sit there and wait for them to stop going.
Dude, the "Exit to Desktop" option not being on the Fighting Grounds menu kills me. Like, why?? Why remove that option from the menu? You get salty after a loss and you end up pressing circle one too many times and it takes you all the way back to the title screen, where you have to press a button to have it reconnect to the server and load back to the main menu.... why???
Anyone else remember xbox 360 SF4, chat, messaging without having to hack into the dark web, what about going in training mode, simply recording something, then play it back. Training mode since SFV is about as intuitive as microsoft Excel.
I remember when I first got the game, I had to watch your video on how to change the language. Capcom was on Crackcom when designing this menu. I'm solving a rubix cube trying to find everything LMAO
You can turn it off. If you don't turn it off, the menu usually locks when you're queuing and locks the game entirely when a match is found. I get it, it's really annoying. 😅😅
Capcom is just insane when it comes to UI. Monster Hunter is WORSE than this! Every menu sucks. Every. Single. One. I have no idea what they are thinking and why they do this shit, I had to look up a guide on how to invert my Y axis on the controller for monster hunter rise. I'm not kidding.
This whole cannibalization and contradiction thing is true not only for the UI but also other parts of the game. This is why the single player content in SF6 is bad, ESPCIALLY World Tour, which is full of stuff that cannibalize and contradict each other. From the mechanics in WT, to the story, to the exploration, everything. This is what happens when you make a game with TOO MANY features. SF6 sucks.
I really don’t think these are huge problems, more like inconveniences. Not to diminish anything you said because some of them can be annoying, but guess I just wasn’t losing my shit over it though.
Played for over 1200 hours and at some point you will start losing your mind when the start button stops working while you're in training mode. It's a minor problem but when it pops up 20 times per day at some point you'll just snap.
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In the training menu while I search for a match I use the shortcuts which they ve fixed to be accessible in these particular cases and I don't have an actual problem. I advise you to do the same. I still don't understand why they haven't fixed the whole menu lock while searching for matches. Also, the menu's frustration is pure exaggerations...But coming from you its really not a surprise.
I know many players who just like myself don't use training mode in combination with the ranked search as it is too frustrating to deal with long term. I've been using the shortcut to access the battle settings since day 1 but it doesn't help with the core issue: Once you're connecting to a player (even if the connection attempt fails) you are locked out of the menus and even the shortcut for the battle settings.
@@mdz_jimmy Once again you made an uneducated video then. The shortcuts work normally.They have fixed it.When you search for a ranked/casual match you are no longer locked out of them.There are shortcuts for virtually everything in training mode. Check it and make a video again.😂
@@ultragalacticlightkick862 Yo thanks for sharing this info, I just checked and you are right. The menu is still not accessible but at least the shortcut is! I kinda wish this fix was communicated better as I didn't hear anything about it and none of my viewers seem to know about it! I will pin your comment so people can see there's "somewhat" of a fix for the menu lock.
As for your first statement about being uneducated "once again": Everything I said in my DR video is 100% correct and no matter how much you like to argue about technicalities like the time shift doesn't change anything and is not "uneducated" but simply a difference in opinion.
@@mdz_jimmy No. I was telling you about the fix and you simply ignored me.I know you are playing the game and you can't commit 100% on the many comments but I told you about it at least two times on your streams. You just seem to forget about it afterwards. It has been fixed (at least the shortcuts access) for months now actually and you include it on your complaints video. It's funny!
@@ultragalacticlightkick862 I honestly must have missed it or misunderstood what you meant. I will do a follow up video soon here! 👍
The exit to desktop only being on the main menu drives me insane.
Agreed. I just press Alt+F4 cause I can't deal with it.
@@HaggenKennedy I didn't think about doing that. Thanks for the tip! XD
I just alt+f4
@@HaggenKennedyBless SteamOS for having an Alt+F4 equivalent in its top level menu 😂
Early I could swear it was something related to accessing the menu w/ a controller or a keyboard.
Something else stupid about the training mode thing is also if you're looking for a ranked match you can't reset sometimes. I like to stay warm doing combos about it won't let me reset position when it's loading a ranked match
Yes the game will basicly lock you out of any option outside of gameplay... truly bizarre how they shipped the game like that.
@@mdz_jimmy Resetting the training mode is annoying on Steam where SF6 doesn't support the Touch Pad/Func button. I'm currently trying to get used to press down 'L3 + Square' for a reset.
@@biquibaI use the touch pad on Steam... I never had to configure anything.
@biquiba I was confused about this too. For me, I press the left side of the TouchPad and it works. Not sure if that would for you.
@@mdz_jimmy Sometimes I am stuck in this loop of being unable to turn off ranked for literal minutes at a time. It's gotten to the point that I turn the game off, and then boot the game again because it's faster.
I hate how when a match fails due to an error. The game is like oh I guess you don’t wanna play anymore, instead of queuing you up again
Yeah that's another thing I didn't even mention.
This rant video doubles as a menuing tutorial, very nice
Every time I need to do something on the menu I have to Google it to find out where it is.
The worst has to be when your opponent Rage Quits and the game decides to switch off your matchmaking 😂 as if you did something bad!
Hi dude, fellow German here. I love this game (600 hours in 1 year) and I’ve had these EXACT same problems. One tip I can give you is that: when in training mode, with ranked search on, after a match, press the pause button IMMEDIATELY, so it will open before you can get locked out of the pause menu . And yeah, even though the Ui does have a ton of issues…. you have to admit it looks cool asf.
That used to be my strategy but as a streamer I like to pay attention to the chat while I'm not in a fight so whenever I interact with my audience I sometimes forget to press the shortcut for the battle settings and then I have to take the "10 second penalty" until I can finally use the menu again lol
Looking cool while not working as required is the recipe for tesla trucks, collapsing bridges and crazy gf/bfs.
@@ardidsonriente2223it's the other way around for Tesla trucks, they look fuckin STOOPID. What is that, a bucket?
@@ardidsonriente2223 the last one is so funny
Do you work for crapcom as well by any chance?
one of my biggest pet peeves is that you can’t buy the exact amount of fighter coins for outfits and stuff. So many games do that and it’s so damn annoying. And rarely do I ever buy stuff in game because of it.
You have to buy extra stuff for these games now?
@@JayS.-mm3qr it’s optional
LOL I'm one of those freaks that like to put character-specific themes on individual characters. Leave us alone; we're already suffering 😂. While it's cool you can filter out for character themes based off of characters currently in the game, what about if you want music from a character that is not in the game, or want to look through music from a specific game? Capcom is like "Nope! You want to look for Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike music? Scroll all the way down, please." Good luck if you have several game soundtracks 😵💫
The term to use, Jimmy, is the “information architecture”. The options are there, and the UI is visually functional, but the way the options are grouped and flow to one another is drunk and on meth.
I remember the first time i played SF6 I literally gave up finding the "Exist to Destop" and just force quit my game.
Does anyone think Jimmy will ever get over this?
I certainly don't think so lol
This video is so cathartic lmao the menu in this game is sooooooo bad. Everything you said is 100% facts lol
Another thing you didn't mention that was possible in V, but you can't do in 6. When you're in someone else's profile looking at their match history, you can't view replays directly from that page. You have to save each individual match you watch to watch to your replay list, then exit out of their profile, then navigate through multiple menus to get to your replay list, then watch it there. Then you have to keep cleaning out your saved replays to keep it from becoming too cluttered from replays you were probably only going to watch once anyway. That along with not being able view the opponents full profile from the post-match screen drive me crazy. Literally just make it the way it was in V and and we're good.
I hate the menu lock so much. I would love it if instead of adding avatar gear and Fight Passes, just one time, they fixed all this stuff... and while they're at it, come up with a better logo, and add a REAL intro like IV and V. SFV's menus and UI had none, absolutely none, of these retarded problems.
Did anyone notice they got rid of most of the arcade mode features!?
Yes
I LOVE this game but you are 100% spot on with these issues. They aren't critical, but if you're playing often or need to menu it starts to feel like a pain point. User EXPERIENCE is never prioritized in gaming. Games have a lot of things that don't respect the players time, load screens not given thought at all so you get them too often, excess menuing with no "search menu" option, locking the player out of the start button menu after a ranked match back into training. Little things that add up as you play. Capcom are receptive but these small things fall through the cracks.
I legitimately didn't know you could personalize the playlist in matches, my mind is blown. Until now, I thought the purchased music could only be listened to in the 'gallery' menu." ... wtf
Still remember in early days I fought trying to change Modern to Classic, or sometimes change the character....what a headache, man...
Not to invalidate your gripes but the game is in a good state when ppl are complaining about training mode options.
Terry is out tonight, guys!
I respectifully disagree. Jimmy barely talked about specific Training Mode problems. This UI has problems everywhere, but still talking only about your point: I know most of people barely touch the training mode, this...if they ever hit the dojo before. But for every FG, 90%+ of the time I'm in the training mode. I actually feel/enjoy the QoL changes but I hate every step back is made.
You're a shill
@biquiba the game is good but the UI is a disgrace. Virtua Fighter 5 Ultimate Showdown is what a UI should be. Totally simple, efficient and seamless. It's like capcom went out of their way to make the UI terrible. Otherwise it's bewildering why it is so bad. Why were they afraid to just make it simple?
@@seagullphilosopher2173 there is nothing complicated about the ui if you have above room temperature iq.
I felt this rant in my soul. The menu feels so clunky and unorganized. I love a lot of the features they added, but trying to access them is so unintuitive. I wholly expect them to rework the menu for either Season 3 or 4. If it stays in its current state it will be quite a sad day.
you have to scroll down if you pick a song for training every time instead of saving the selected location xd
I feel your pain Jimmy. The only good thing about UI is an ability to jump straight to training mode from a "start" screen.
There's worse, modern controls on default that you need to change for EVERY character. And what about the invitations from friends, no easy access, you need to go through the menu and find the room yourself, on top of that, what about exiting the slot? O button would leave the room. The menu was clearly designed by a sociopath
Yeah I forgot about modern controls being active by default. That's on purpose by Capcom but at least it should be easier to notice and change to classic.
The UI is good but I def agree that players have to do so much extra to get to where they want. One thing I hate is when you search for a replay on someone's profile, you have to save it first, then navigate to where you saved it. The replay should be viewable on the spot from the player's profile.
The ui is good? Wtf.
@@KevinMcClelland81 Yes, it's not entirely bad. Meaning these things can be easily fixed with some rerouting options. An overhaul isn't needed.
@@fatalradius right. I get chu.
@@fatalradius
You don't HAVE to save the replay. But you do have to go to Replay "Search", search for the User.
From there you can view all their replays without saving.
and then you have to remove the replay after finish watching it?😢
But is it easy to buy fight money?
Surprisingly, no.
My number 1 thing is dropped inputs or sometimes moves come out for me I swear I didn't mean too the other day I wasted my level 3 because I moved forward and back and pressed a normal slightly
that's just the game doing what you pressed though, you can't really be annoyed at the game for it
You really need to check your inputs in a reply if you think this is happening.
Sometimes there will be an execution error on your part and if you look at your inputs you will see if this is the case or not.
This way you can identify if it is an error on your part or the game, either way you can adjust to eliminate the issue.
Came for SF6 gameplay problem, stayed for bad UI design rant
Good point on it being so involved to get to my replays. And I never knew how to get music for each character. Thanks. 🙂
The thing I hated most was the Could Not Verify Capcom ID link (to PSN) screen keeping me from online.
After 9 months offline & emails to Capcom, I learned some gave up on SF6. I finally switched to a different PSN & got the link. Now doing online, & all content again (except some trials).
But the DLC characters didn't carry over, so I may need to buy them again. 😑
I remember in sf5 i used the replay function to practice reactions and punishes. shit does not work in sf6
@@Dylan-vu1cg
Training mode replay?
That works fine in SF6...
Yep. The UI is a total mess.
Hopefully they do a complete overhaul of the UI for season 3-4
I don’t buy anything from the store or battlepass, because i have no fucking idea how to get to it
Lmao press start on the main menu then go to shop
@@eddy3080 I stumbled there once while also high on meth and booze ( like the UI designer), and then I found that there were two tiers of currency, and it brought on an immediate comedown and I gave up.
Correct me if I’m wrong here. You can return to training mode without auto queuing for ranked if you were in training mode in the first place when queuing for ranked and press quit ranked match. It throws you back to the training mode without you being in a queue. I do admit the menu not being able to open is kinda annoying at times tho.
Yeah I mentioned that in the video. It's technically possible to go to training mode without ranked search but for that I have to queue up in training mode which I NEED to avoid for my sanity. I seriously tried to resist the temptation of just sitting there in training mode and not actually try stuff but I always end up trying things and getting pissed off because of the menu lock 😅
@@mdz_jimmy it doesn’t exactly bother me as much but I can see why it would tick people off. I do admit the UI a cluster fk to use and getting locked out of the menu when loading is annoying. It depends whether the little loading globe logo is on the screen. I think they can implement a shortcut button to queue within training mode. So if you want to lab something specific you can “Quit Ranked Mode” lab it out then use a button to immediately requeue again without having to interact with the menu. I do think these issues need to be vocalized more and I just now realize how little to none these complaints are made in the internet. Hope they can make some of these changes sometime soon.
I remember when i first went into rank and my character had modern controls default and it took me some time to learn how to switch it, whenever you're not playing the actual game you really don't want to press any button in this shitty UI
Sorry about the wall of text but just had some thoughts and some tips for helping. It's quite mixed but the main issue that I agree on is that it's bad menus for sure.
I agree about it being "cryptic" or basically you have to explore to find out. That's a shorter time needed for adjustment but still it could be better. Even though it's not easy to navigate even then. But the bgm list setting is when you are a higher up level in the gui. It makes total sense it's just there. Bgm specific menu under a bgm menu? How is that strange? It's hard to discover, that I can agree on.
Thank consoles for shitty menu, 100% it's the #1 reason it is this way.
I've always found that games that are cross-platform has a big impact and it is probably the worst menu system of games in my experience.
Then there are the reasons why it's like it is. The training mode + search on is the effective way for being a default. The filter is obvious in replay.
Why would you need to stop the search while killing time between matches? Rhetorical question. If you are playing ranked I'm very confident to say most people don't just do one and turning off for training mode no queue.
If you are gonna play more ranked but want to have longer time to be in training before it, you can dismiss accepting the match.
There are solutions for making it impossible to find a new ranked while training mode search is on, for PC at least, you'd need to be able to press a button on it if you play on console but depending on setups it's different in difficulty of writing the search off with just one binding in a script. A little something that blocks via firewall is an example. Not recommending and just mentioned it.
Honestly you call bad efficiency or something else bad for what you personally like when you were on the ranked stuff.
as someone who just started playing SF6, I agree with Jimmy, the menu system is stupid. They must've hired the guy who designed the Xbox menu.
The exit option hideen in that specific layer is what irks me the most. Oh, and the block options, also super hidden.
Capcom should let you watch the replay of the ranked match/set after it's over
These problems are magnified 10 fold after having a bad match or session.
I didn't expect to see Rocky Balboa ranting about SF 6 😆.
Actually , if you set a function button short cut for online match making in training mode, you can instantly pause the rank search , then play with your menu. Then you’ll bypass the menu button freeze when searching for match.
need a patch where you can put guioles theme on when at 5 percent health left
Watching replays directly from match history (or on someones profile), accepting custom room invites is extremely unintuitive , sometimes not being able to say no to a match in Battle Hub when someone steals the cab. To name a few extra.
Training mode doesn’t automatically search for a match unless you specifically tell it to. You absolutely can enter training mode without searching for a match.
When you said you had to optimize the UI, it reminded me of a comment I saw on Angrybird’s video saying “he’s doing combos to the menu.” 🤣🤣 it’s accurate. Since I play on xbox, I can bring up the xbox menu to cancel match making so I can actually pause. Super annoying
This is just the tip of the iceberg too, there are SOOO many issues with the UI and a clean user experience. I truly believe that menu systems today are being designed by people with severe ADHD, or one group is just not talking to the other. BUT you only need ONE freaking menu with a few shortcut keys for matchmaking and other frequently used options. I don't think it's intentional, I just don't know what it was...
yeah i agree that replay options part just drive me up the wall and the menu get on my nerves too.
its so strange that capcom has this weird mix of for a good thing they have/do there's this other annoying/bad thing and its like what weird balance is this lol
This is why Japan’s tech dominance hit a wall in the ‘90s. They could build the best hardware, create iconic games, lead the world in gadgets but their Achilles’ heel was the software.
All those little quirks and limitations that just didn’t translate to the West. It wasn’t just language; it was culture embedded in the code. Incompatible with anyone outside the bubble.
My favourite is having to leave ranked on tilt, have to go all the way back to the first screen to load up, then you can access the 'leave to desktop'. Does it on purpose so you cant escape the game 😂
AND I have to SAVE A REPLAY then go back to my replay list to play it. Instead of the option to just play it RIGHT THERE 😆
i only recently realised that they added a shortcut to enter training mode from the main menu, which ironically makes it quicker to exit out of fighting grounds and use the shortcut than to go into training from the fighting grounds menu. Just be glad you don't use battle hub jimmy, you'd probably have had an aneurysm by now.
Jimmy was not happy. Jimmy was having a bad day
To this day, I still have no idea how to change the "Move Name Display" language. It's always greyed out so it's like it's there for no reason. (Edit: just found it's only available when the language is set to Chinese, very weird restriction)
Also, World Tour's training mode is so bare-bones that there's not even an option to change health so that means it's nearly impossible to test certain perks and CA's
UI matchup is unwinnable
I can sense that the menu configuration in SF6 was deliberately designed to trigger users like jimmy as a form of Satsui no Hado since they were never going to main Akuma.
It is mindblowing how trash training is when searching for matches
I play on series x, if I press menu button first, I can access training mode options. Not sure if this is a glitch or just limited to console.
Try pressing menu button first, the search prompt says paused, press it again, kinda curious if this works for pc as well.
100% agree the ui is so disjointed and messily put together its a little embarrassing
I feel like an absolute god among men when I see people complaining about even slightly wonky UI lol. The only trouble I have with the menus is when checking replays, aside from that it's not that bad.
I personally find the game to be not that fun. Win or lose I'm usually frustrated with it and feels like I'm forcing myself to play (cause everyone else is) especially compared to the amount of fun i get playing fighters such as MVC2, Guilty Gear, Blazblue, DBFZ, Third Strike, Alpha 3, USF4, Tekken Tag...the list goes on 😺
If you turn on casters for a replay and then go back to ranked, the game will keep the casters on until you back all the way out to the main menu where you are allowed to disable them again.
What about the tournament option? Never has a tournament available! How do i jump into a tournament?
It's funny how the balance and systems in sf6 are OK. But the UI is really terrible...
Street Fighter 6: now you fight the menus
dude for real and they're charging all these DLC prices yet they don't wanna invest any time making the menus more intuitive. actually absurd.
Love this game but the menus are overall split terribly and interact with each other terribly, and don't get me started on region based matchmaking instead of ping based.
There was literally a patch for region based matchmaking. I'm in Europe and constantly coming up against people in Asia and the Middle East. Its an easy setting to change
The fact that this are all "nit picking" qol that for example me with 700 hours and patience and simply not caring much I didn't even notice is really good
Especially since they can only improve in the future
Its a fighting game bro, the menu is an opponent too. Lol
I... I didnt know that you can change the music in the menu for your fight...
Training mode Ranked/Casual is cool but your right it really isn't as good as it could be
Jimmy "CLEARY he's not looking to fight"
Clearly Jimmy looking to fight capcom lol
Changing your character banners and titles is annoying and unintuitive too.
Thankfully I never change those... I probably started dodging interactions with the UI unconsciously 😅
honestly, i found this once, but i have no idea how to get back to it. i've given up now
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That was the same situation I was in before. Gave up for several days until I decided to take the time to find out.
Still can't tell you how to do it right now from memory though. It's similar to changing BGM I believe.
I thought I was the only one that thought this UI is confusing AF.
Totally agree. The UI is the worst part of the game. It's been months and I still forget how to find shit I've been to a ton of times.
Jimmy's fight against UI continues! ( as a final fuck you ) had me😂😂
Badly designed and programmed anything also drive me insane. For SF6, I guess I’m used to it now, but for my work? I will forever be the guy who rants about it forever and ever (though yes that’s an entirely different case lol).
The training mode menu problem during ranked queue is so true, Capcom fix ur shit ffs
It feels like the vast majority of game for the past 4-6 years all have hostile UI design. It's the same shit in Tekken 8. Try looking for a replay or joining a player lobby that your friend is hosting and it's like being locked in a fucking escape room. You didn't even mention the part where those stupid fucking popups appear when you're trying to do something like combo trials and they block all of the inputs on the screen so you literally have to sit there and wait for them to stop going.
I thought it was just me!! Im so glad im not alone
You want some cheese with all this whining? I thought this was gonna be a quality rant
Whining*
On Playstation you just press the ps button and you get control again cause it pauses the match que
Dude, the "Exit to Desktop" option not being on the Fighting Grounds menu kills me. Like, why?? Why remove that option from the menu?
You get salty after a loss and you end up pressing circle one too many times and it takes you all the way back to the title screen, where you have to press a button to have it reconnect to the server and load back to the main menu.... why???
Everytime I want to change my title in SF6 I have to search how to do it 😅
Anyone else remember xbox 360 SF4, chat, messaging without having to hack into the dark web, what about going in training mode, simply recording something, then play it back. Training mode since SFV is about as intuitive as microsoft Excel.
Bro I literally launch this game, press one button and I'm in training mode, wtf are you talking about?
When I first got the game, I had to look up how to queue up for ranked. I initially thought you had to go to battlegrounds first.
I remember when I first got the game, I had to watch your video on how to change the language. Capcom was on Crackcom when designing this menu. I'm solving a rubix cube trying to find everything LMAO
Bro are you stupid 😂
You can turn it off. If you don't turn it off, the menu usually locks when you're queuing and locks the game entirely when a match is found. I get it, it's really annoying. 😅😅
Simple fix... press ps button and it'll cancel the searching queue
There is no PS button on PC...
Dont ever play fighter Z Jimbo, if sf6 UI pisses you off, then UI Goku will really make you mad.
100% this needs to be fixed in a future QoL
Capcom is just insane when it comes to UI. Monster Hunter is WORSE than this! Every menu sucks. Every. Single. One.
I have no idea what they are thinking and why they do this shit, I had to look up a guide on how to invert my Y axis on the controller for monster hunter rise. I'm not kidding.
Bro this guy is hilarious he said the dude got fired and implemented a messed up UI version😂😂
This whole cannibalization and contradiction thing is true not only for the UI but also other parts of the game. This is why the single player content in SF6 is bad, ESPCIALLY World Tour, which is full of stuff that cannibalize and contradict each other. From the mechanics in WT, to the story, to the exploration, everything. This is what happens when you make a game with TOO MANY features. SF6 sucks.
let's hear the long rant jimmy 👍👍
Anger Jimmy I love it 😂
I really don’t think these are huge problems, more like inconveniences. Not to diminish anything you said because some of them can be annoying, but guess I just wasn’t losing my shit over it though.
Played for over 1200 hours and at some point you will start losing your mind when the start button stops working while you're in training mode. It's a minor problem but when it pops up 20 times per day at some point you'll just snap.
i didn't know it went this deep for a lot of people
Wait is that why that happens!?
The more I play, the more I dislike the game. There are so many bugs in the game.
They put the intern to create this UI. 😂