TINKER IS SO BALANCED! - Kiyotaka Tinker 1v9 carrying 9Pandas vs Tundra
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Kiyotaka this game so hard, Ramzes dying to Tormentor was funny af
carried*
Kiyotaka was in mode:MMR booster
major booster
Бустер
If tinker were that "imbalanced" every team would pick him. Kiyotaka is just really good at this game
it's just that very few pro mid players know how to play tinker. Nevertheless, he is an imba in the free draft. It's the same with medusa 3. the hero is imba in that position, but at the moment only 33 knows how to play it.
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this game shows the tinker gameplay we see in a pub but this guy is playing agains one of the best teams in the world and they cant do anything. so yeah tinker is broken.
@@denislav пришествие свидетелей никса, скажите ещё что-нибудь на вашем языке, пожалуйста
@@lucasvillamil8698 this guy is the best tinker in the world. NTS and BZM picked tinker on this major and both lost their games.
Probably most underrated aspect of Tinker is how much chaos you have to deal with when you're playing against him, be it Visual or Sound effects, that shit can be overwhelming lol
Pressing that intricate secuence of buttons pays off! 😅
It really does makes u off balance with the constant lasers and rockets, shit is noisy bro
Especially tinker's laugh
I remember last patch he cant blink when take damge, but this patch he can blink no problem, seem very balance😂
@@mightyw4213 the laser with 100% miss normal attack for around 5 secs. If you missed, you cant cancel blink.
If he has BKB, you really have no way to disrupt his blink/tp
This guy already adapted to the new patch tinker, it's insane.
ramzes vs quinn is the peak of this major
Cant wait to see them tippin eqch other
Ramzes vs saksa. 😂
diff carry. ramzes playing so bad last 2 game.
@@k4rmeltube yeah. but skitter wasn't great on tht 3rd map too. he had 2k player item build
Ramdog vs GGNG
Enemy's tinker on my legend game 💀
relatable
Yeah literally always on enemy team. Good I kinda adopted Pugna into my support hero pool so that hero isn't that annoying.
Relateable, but im on guardian :(
And tinkers plays like immortal sh*ts with 20-0 destroying my team.
Completely different scenario if tinker is my teammate lol
fact. honestly i have never been in one team with even with good tinker but atleast avarage tinker. but opposite team time by time have arc, tinker, morph spammers
@@lexterlongares 🤣🤣relatable, in your team tinker would be that he has just started learning tinker
The best Tinker performance I have ever seen. The fingers were so incredibly fast
his gf must be happiest women
There was basically nothing to it, other than fast clicking, basically every pro could do that. The hero is just still broken.
@@AlexanderTrefz yeah try playing like that in the pro scene nerd
@@yel1221 Go watch other pro tinkers play clown. They are just as fast.
@@AlexanderTrefz Then why have Tinker only been picked 4 times?
I mean bounty hunter makes a big difference and tinker is generally good against tb. This is just what happens if you get a good game and play a hero well. Not to mention how few pros actually play the hero, which is the best way to learn how to counter any hero consistently.
Interesting hero in the new patch. Bkb nerf kinda cuts both ways but generally nice for the hero, and it's a massive map so global mobility enables you to contribute to fights more consistently while still being able to farm on the other side of the map. I think shard is lowkey kinda being slept on with the blink nerf, though it is very difficult to actually make it useful tbh.
The blink nerf still hurts hard, on top of rearm having cd the hero is a lot easier to catch. If you think back to when this hero had march the difference is massive.
One thing i will say is rearm is still relatively short at the moment. Whenever max rearm (previously with cast animation) is around 1.5s the hero becomes mid, the closer it gets to 1 the hero becomes almost impossible to react to in time reliably. Rn its at 1.3.
Good analyze!
Apparently the only way to counter Tinker is to ban it.
Rearm is not OP. If cancelled, it goes on CD. Do you remember when rearm does not have a CD? That's the OP days
Valve needs to bring back Wraith Pact if they want tundra to have a chance at winning something
lmao
Bro
Hahahahahaha
Is this sarcasm or fanboy thought LOL
Exactly plus mageslayer it's how they won the ti pure item exploitation if you combine with support items you literally couldn't die
HAHA ''GG TINKER'' said 33 🤣🤣, funny watching how Tundra complain about a TINKER PICKER, when they're used to pick gay heros in their line up as Brood, Doom, Beast, Naga, Ench , Veno, etc. Looks like someone got a taste of its own medicine :)
Ikr, so satisfying to see tundra getting smashed. Fucking abusers and ResidentSleeper gamers.
absolutelly correct, especially with deleted wraith pact. Now they felt what another players feel at TI11
Imagine using the word homosexual as an insult in this day and age. Grow up
Agree, nobody wanted to play against zoo heroes just like nobody wanted to play against a tinker lol
@@Zarzar22 homosexual = lustful to the point of insanity and degeneracy, dont you think thats insulting?
Ofc, it's kiyotaka ayanokouji we talking about. The prodigy of white room, able to play piano. Playing tinker like this is basically like walk in park lol
Lets not forget that Tundra abused the Brood-Wraith pact back on the recent TI, 33 doesnt have the right to complain about this hero.
Tinker is not broken it’s just depressed kid played like a god and they dint have bkb piercing stunns(clock work ,beast) or basher
Instead of veno should have picked clockwork,lion, or just bought hex from wind ranger
Kiyotaka carried the support MK 😢😂
Ive never seen tundra getting humbled like that especially 33. D best tinker in the world kyotinker
all those tips to Ramzes just to lose
so satisfying too, i hope liquid smacks them in lower bracket quarter finals
Quinn vs Ramzes LFG!
Бустер залетел на 2к
У меня на 6к такие же бустеры
Average enemy tinker
Playing tinker requires skill, before many cry, play a game with tinker and I assure you that if you do not have skill you will not win easily. 😂
Saying that something requires skill doesn’t mean it’s not broken. Tinker/2K mentality.
@@davaa31 If you want tinker to be broken you need skill that's all and we all know there is a lot of ppl with lowskill in dota. Don't cry anymore that match was perfect to bring out the full potential of tinker. We would talk about it being broken if it would win even with counters and that still doesn't happen.
@@manuelleiva2353 Oh, these witnesses of the skill on the tinker... Tinker is a hero on which you just need to jerk off the buttons and that's it
man MK and bat got carried SUPER hard this game. and tinker got to level 30 in 46 mins or something. thanks papa gaben for le balance:D guess his name changed from "Depressed kid" to "overjoyed kid"
booster for reason
dont think the problem is about balance tundra just underestimated him and had no good options to control this tinker like doom instead under lord...
outdrafted
if 33 played doom this game would be a different story but he didn't, the Blink nerf was enough, if you still lose to this you're smoking crack
@@MigApex its simply called outdrafted man. A lot of ifs. Ifs can be anything. They banned his tinker in the first 2 games but they let it slide cos they thought they can handle his tinker
Before you get mad about Tinker, remember that this was with a huge networth lead and Kiyotaka playing very well. Tinker is 50% winrate with only 4 picks in the major, losing in the hands of bzm and NothingToSay.
Coz it's unexpected pick tinker by 9pandas . If tundra know the 9pandas strat gonna pick clockwerk,rubick or nyx immediately for counter tinker
Last pick tinker 💀 if they midpick it ...its a full counter and its gonna be a shitshow
@@zamrylicious135it was not last pick, tundra made last pick, they saw tinker and pick wr...
@@zamrylicious135 it was 2nd phase tinker)) tinker - dead hero, on this can play 1-2 peoples in world, lol
Pitlord and wr btw huge couners for tinker, monke
Depressed kid just solo play better, then Tundra
@@Koknius It was 9th pick (23rd if you include bans) not 2nd phase
Nice build skitter and nine, ti winners XDDDD
nine no bkb till the end from the free lane xD. the reason they lost
@@miraclegigachad diffusal on tb and linkens on wr, ultimate grief.
Even with bkb can't do shit as it only gives 50% magic immunity. They lost as they did not have a hero like Doom.
@@FawadNaeem898 you fuckin noobs deserve to stay sub 1k mmr.
What the fuck are you even talking about you nitwit?
BKB doesn't help nearly as much vs tinker anymore. Linkens blocks a lazer at least.
Diffu TB is totally fine and can be upgraded to purge a debuff if necessary.
They simply lost to the most balanced hero in dota to date.
Здорова смотрящим
Team who always used broken mechanics of dota,cry about tinker)))
every team would if they could. it's not morality that's stopping them from doing it.
Tundra set themselves on a timer. With some soft support, Tinker is the kind of hero will 1vs5 your team after 40mn. In this very case, 9P draw the game well for Tinker hit his timing, and with all 4 heroes provide vision - the one thing Tinker need the most, this game was a cakewalk.
Same thing happened in the past with Spectre, Medusa, Arc Warden, also Tinker himself.
The funny part is how the casters where annoyed why tinker was picked here. Saying "why tinker" "its nerfed!" And to see their reaction after the game. 😂😂😂
kiyotaka was like "in your face!"
Wraith pact no longer can save tundra 😢
First time i see tinker in pro game stomping so hard just like in pub
Tundra ban Tinker both 1st and 2nd game and then suddenly left it open the 3rd game. 🤦♂️
meanwhile ramzees was continuing his tilt mode from game 2 to game 3 😂
"Heroes are just tools"
Ayanokyoji Kiyotaka 9pandas
no real catch for tinker, pretty much outdrafted
Depressed kid turned into a god with the new name
Calling qoqjva where are you now
tinker aint OP he got nerfed a lot, kiyotaka is the OP
Basically what Tundra did the past TI, abusing the meta. Happy to see their disappointed faces
Kiyotaka has earned +1 fan after that game
Kiyotaka in Ayanokouji mode 🥶🥶
tinker seems balanced although kiyotaka is not, on this hero.
Kiyotaka > NTS
thats what depression does to you, #depressedkid
Dont forget bzm. He's tinker got countered so hard by viper lol
that is tinker in the enemy team
IT’s better than watch 450minutes game where, team with 450k NW not daring to step on the ramp until difference is 1000000000 gold.
Wiped out by one booster.
🎉
Wo whooo. This is real science, not wraith pact science 😂
Remember when qocqva said kiyotaka is just rager in pub and showed his nw is higher than him. I hope kiyotaka wins anything and has more nw than qocqva someday and ppl mock him in his stream
Valve probably nerf CM after watching this game. They won't touch tinker.
THIS IS INSANE
Tinker is the hero that needs 0str, he should die in 2 hits for the amount of bs he produce
Lmao
tinker + Bounty
Waiting tinker heaven halberd
Absolutely amazing. Their line ups looks bad on 9Pandas side but then last pick tinker. I argued that puck would be better in this game but he proved me wrong.
came back to this clip after Sneyking and Skiter won, it goes to show that TI11 Tundra were just a bunch of one trick ponies specially with the wp KEKW
ramzes solo
Bro Tinker is the same shit as last patch what r u talking about? It's just a free Tinker game
Киотака только проснулся
Dude how are you so fast to upload?
Why the fuck kiyotaka never using tinker in the international 2023 for gods sake, he is using mf obsodian destroyer for what
Tinker was nerfed, but kiyotaka was buffed. 🤣
i think the only problem with tinker is the shield. back in the day if u caught him (which was hard already) he couldnt blink but now even if u landa right click or nuke he just jumps away
Actually nothing prob at a typical tinker. 9P baited Tundra pick carry and sp4 1st without instant stun. And in the middle game only Nine have shackle to lock Tinker, and he missed almost =)) 9P knew that enemy cannot pick zeus or storm when TB need many farms. They've already won from counter-pick strat.
Is tinker the last second pick right? I think tundra last pick should be better hero than wr
He really manifesting Ayanokoji Kiyotaka character. Still 🥶 even though slaying so many
It’s been going around that he isn’t depressed anymore.
Recent buff to side lanes, vision heroes like MK, bh and bounty. These advantages are good but kudos to tinker player for owning it
Bounty hunter is incredibly good as pos 1 now tbh
So hard to buy mkb?
Ramzees hanyalah alat untuk kiyotaka 😅
This shield absorb that allows tinker to use dagger while taking damage is absolute broken feature.
But even NTS Tinker lost against Talon in this tournament. They shut him real good before he can create chaos
Just make ramsey as team carry and your mid laner will play tinker 1v9
after watching this confirmed. KIYOTAKA TINKER >> NTS TINKER.
Man I thought NTS was the best Tinker the pro scene has to offer. This new kid on the block is just smokin everyone with Tinker and afaik he has only lost a single time with Tinker in a pro game.
Its a last pick tinker, what you expect?
Still lastpick wr, clown
Good, so Ice Frog sees the hell it is playing against this guy
Averga enemy Tinker SMurf in my games
El jugador esta roto 😅
isn'it more because of bkb rework?
Everybody knows RAMZES carried the game
yeap, but in wrong direction
that's why they nerfed tinker
that's crazy, that's fckng crazy
tinker is balanced unlike medusa who can be easily first picked and has 78% winrate on major, and it is ABSOLUTELY tundra's fault that they didn't ban tundra with tb in their team and bh in the opposite team
To be fair, it's only op in the hands of good players. My guardian pub tinkers can't even use dagger.
this tinker is so good at playing kiyotaka
Whats bullshit about Tinker is being able to blink when people are on you. Look at the first teamfight. Rearm blink while taking dmg. Complete bs
GG Tinker said the Dusa and Wraith pact(already removed because broken) exploiter lmfao
Who said he do nothing, tinker broken, can try this)))
Ofc on video booster come to low pts Ti winners))
MAYBE NOW guys will do something to this pile sack hero!!!
this team are mostly 20 years old players right, only ramzes that oldest
looks promising
Rodjer is 30
@@13AMER he stand in
Ironically while the other region struggle to regenerate its own player, CIS region are soo easy to do it
@@13AMER he is stnad in for solo which is he 32 XD
@@abdulcholik7789 i guess china have better player, but choose to bet and do other illegal things
Tundra is overrated
tinker is balanced, no chance you would be able to carry with tinker like that. stick to the herald league.
They didn’t pick or build to counter tinker. Needed an atos or zues/spec/ anyone with catch. Outdrafted
Since that shield update thinker become so annoying...
Легчашая игра для рамдога))
Says 33 who abuses a bugs with Saksa since TI Fluke win.
А че бустера в даер закинуло😮?
try to watch " Dar " tinker streamer. same build like that.
All right it’s time to remove this hero i was a tinker spammer once but now i understand why tinker is not a dota hero.
Just delete the hero. Makes 0 sense
They didn't get clockwork to counter tinker
tinker was last pick if irrc, they baited mid lane batrider, kiyotaka used mid batrider game 2 so probably didnt expect it
@@eien1412
They still had last pick and chose WR instead of Zeus or Ember.
And man, that WR fel offff.
@@thatweirdguywithamask264 they last pick mid wr so its impossible to pick clock anymore, they were doing great...at first tho LOL...i do agree with u, they shouldve picked different mid laner or they just underestimated tinker
@@eien1412 9pandas used to pick bounty hunter + tinker all the time on dpc and maybe sometimes even on this major. don't say now that they've done great job. dotabuff is a free tool you know. they could've prepared much better.
Just pick even a support Pugna, plant Nether Ward.
Tinker even with BKB is completely countered lol
1:21 33 just typed tinker in all caps wp tinker god
they didnt nerfed the dagger that now is silenced? how tinker is able to refresh it?
Bkb?)
kiyotaka smurf
I didn't know you can smurf in a major game😂
Tinker 1st ban vs Gladiators for sure lol😅