The King of One Man Doomstacks
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Props to the guy for going back and rebuilding a legit one
Or took more effort to make it look legit ;)
@@Vyleea Yeah I suspect the same thing too. The list of neat defeat traits at the end really really makes it look like a trait managed lord lol.
@@holysword876 Well he IS 225 turns deep into a campaign.
@@codysmith66 All the more reason to have a bunch of useless traits. The reason why traits are hard to get isn't because of the number of turns a game is in, but the fact that over time useless traits+legedary lords going extinct preventing you from getting those traits.
@@holysword876 It's a simple matter to revive a dead faction. Cause a rebellion in the territory, and a rebel army under the banner of that defeated faction will spawn. Very time consuming, which is why it usually takes this many turns to make that happen.
Possible, but a pain in the arse
Old Ai : Does not shoot one man commander
New Ai : *GOES INTO MELEE WITH RANGE UNITS*
What old AI are you referring to? If you mean TW2, then I had a Malus one-man doomstack go up against pretty much the same army type as the one in this video, and when surrounded by hundreds of dwarves in melee ON FOOT, Malus was getting shredded from all sides by thunderers, and even organ guns... with pretty much no friendly fire to the dwarves. He is just that much taller even on foot.
Better than shooting your own units with the arrows
@@Riwillion previous AI in WH3.
@@Riwillion THAT'S GOING INTO THE BOOK, WAZZUCK!
@@harsteu Skavens would like a word with you.
The AI behaviour almost seems like the missile units are missing their innate 'Guard Mode'; since their behaviour seems the same as a player-controlled missile unit without it enabled.
Probably this. In even battles where I think my missiles might be weaker than the enemy's, I will wait till they target mine and move them back a bit at a time and they will walk forward to stay in shooting range. Eventually, they crash in the frontline and stop shooting :/
Guard mode simply does not function like its supposed to or even did in wh2. As a player my guard mode missiles will constantly run into melee while getting LOS blocked or just for fun.
I think it might also heavily depend on the battle difficulty. For me the ai has been quite competent. But I might have a mod that makes it stronger not 100% sure
@@ragnarok6723 I havent played in about a month, so I'm not up to date on the last changes, but in my experience guard mode only works if the manual target you select is on range at that moment and then moves away. If you order something out of range or line of sight, guard mode does nothing. Happened a lot on WH2 sieges with artillery
"Allied units: 1/2". Surprisingly clever, even though I'm sure it's just a thing with coding transformations as two units.
I love the phrase "a little bit possessed".
And yeah, even without cheese, having a unit so much as touch enemy missile troops seems to break the AI in my experience.
8:02 Dwarven Lord on the right: "Don't mind me, i'm just an infiltrated slann here".
Not sure if this thing has been approved by the engineering guild
@@Yetidelamontagne definitely approved by the old ones.
Malus in Wh2: the best one-man doomstack and army of one
Malus in Wh3: still the best one-man doomstack.
That's what's is the stability.
"That is what is is the stability"?
"That was what was is the stability"?
"That was what is is the stability"?
WH3*
@@sagittariusa9012 thanks for pointing out that mistake.
Malus memeblade never dies
"That is what is is the stability."
This one.
Dismounted one man doomstacks tend to get knocked around a lot by cavalry and monsters. Shure, they don't really take any damage, but they aren't able to dish any damage out themselves.
in this case it's against dwarfs though
I just love how insane deep your knowledge about this game goes.
Yeah his ability for calling the army losses is uncanny.
The Rat man in me really wanted to drop a doomrocket on that stack.
Yes Yes
You need me Darkblade....
Without me... We both die here!
Hate is our gift to one another...
Malus.
22:49 when attacked in the rear he loses 60% melee defence. That makes it below 50. Standard hit chance is 35, minimum is 8, so it matters against units attacking in the rear with a melee attack of 15 or higher.
I am sorry that I improperly showed of morathi (should have grinded I mean) because she actually had 100+ melee defence and nerfed enemy melee attack by ~15 by her abilities. Against physical things in a blob, she actually would do comparable to malus except way quicker because magic.
Malus is second to none when it comes to durability. With Morathi you would need a lot of min-maxing to get all the desirable traits.
Losing defence from being attacked in the rear sounds like a very Slaaneshi trait lol
@@Killerthealmighty it does double their charge then...
Gives "mountain of dwarves" a new meaning.
Considering that transforming will max out ward save, sword khaine seems to be overkill
True, but the transformation is an internal hp loss fwir, ward save only applies to incoming damage.
@@jackryan5880 pretty sure damage resistances actually apply to direct damage as well. a big part of why some undead characters like Luthor Harkon sometimes lasts so long after army losses kicks in is because his insanely high magic/spell resist actually allows him to resist the damage inflicted by crumbling and disintegrating. pretty sure Malus can do the same thing with Tzarkan's damage (it's just harder to notice since Tzarkan's damage was likely set up with that resistance in mind while Luthor just has the same crumbling/disintegrating damage as all the other undead that don't resist it)
Playing a Kroq Gar campaign a while ago and for some reason Malus Darkblade went on an absolute *TEAR* in the North.
By the time I was vassalizing the Empire(I use mods), I looked North and realized the majority of the Chaos Wastes was owned by Hag Graef. Sent some heroes to look around and realized Malus SOMEHOW owned everything from Naggarond to Kislev.
Biggest battle between us was a 3v3 battle. Kroq-Gar, Tiktaq'to and a Life Slann vs Malus, a Black Ark and another of his armies.
It was a fucking massacre. THE bloodiest battle I have ever fought in TWW3.
I had other mods that enabled AI armies to have decent army compositions so Malus actually had some decent armies of Executioners and Black Guard, with cavalry and shades as well as several monsters.
I thought it was going well. And then Malus transformed into Tz'arkan.
Ripped through four regiments of Temple Guard, two Scar-Veterans on Carnosaurs, three Ancient Stegadons AND Kroq-Gar all on his own. Absolute barbarism.
I ended up losing that battle and by the time I was able to recruit/redeploy other armies out of Lustria and the Chaos Dwarf territories to the Empire, Malus had nearly wiped the Empire out. In a plot twist to end all plot twists, I only managed to turn the war around because ARCHAON declared war on Malus.
lmaoo he starts dealing 21% of all damage taken back to the attacker
They’re gonna need a new Great Book of Grudges for this one!
I've gotten enemy-artillery to waste ammo in my Wood-Elf campaign by first shooting them with my hero enough to aggro the artillery, but not enough activate the whole army.
I am thinking it might not be an AI problem that sends the Missile Infantry into melee, but rather the AI getting boned by the exact same weirdness as the players, and simply not realizing it.
Baisically it's the change to the missile units base AI that opened up a weak spot, not the actual enemy AI getting worse.
The dwarf army 'We have you outnumbered 800 to 1! Malus 'I like those odds!'
That pause for the "Legend Total War here", I was waiting on the edge of my seat and about to check my audio, good 'ol LoTW
What a legend, and Malus is pretty cool as well
Nice. Thanks for all the great content Legend.
Malus: You don't understand. Your troops are not yours to kill.
the smattering of dwarf bodies looked like a smash burger
I haven't played Warhammer in a while and generally been losing interest in the game. But when watching videos, it's the soundtrack that makes me wanna come back. Not the gameplay, but the soundtrack, high elves' and dark elves' specifically.
Dawi scout : Sir we lost more than 3000 good soldiers there
Thorgrim Grudge bearer: "What?! We need a completely new book for this genocide, And who did this to us?!
Dawi : Sir ... Sir ... an elf!!!!
Thrgrim : !!!!!!!!!?????!!!!!!😵💫😵💫😵😵👹👹👹
CA Developers "We've finished the aesthetic changes you asked for... Now can we begin working on the gameplay"
CA Management "I'm not weeping, I should be weeping!"
That's gonna make the bigest grudge ever!
I think this outcome could become achieved or improved by removing the Sword of Khaine, (So(c)K), and putting Malus' Warpsword of Khaine, (WoK)(confusing), swapping in the armour of destiny or a better armour item for Dark elves and comitting to the fight this way to avoid the side effects of The So(c)K.
Given the load out in this save file shown in the video, Malus had 91% ewarsave with 15% Physical resistance. Swapping the So(c)K for the WoK gets you to 71% becasue engaging in melee combat grants +5% Wardsave in addition to regenerating health as is the special effect for Malus' WoK. You round off your missile resistance by combining inherent missile resistance with your accumulated Wardsave.
You can achieve maximum physical resistance capacityas the original sender did with defeat traits and items. In battle, Malus' ability "The Blood Price" adds an additional +20% Wardsave, Base and Armour-Piercing weapon damage temporarily which shall come in handy against other powerful legendary lords or Daemons. The total Wardsave of 91% should resist most of the damage over time the ability focres Malus to sustain which is a godo trade off the the damage he would have sustained to magical attacks had he not activated the ability.
More over, transforming to Tz'arkan grants and additional +10% Wardsave, making up more of what is lost when reserving use of the So(c)K, raising the baseline to 81% Wardsave, ignoring the short damage resistance boost granted by "Bloodstorm".
the vamps would have a field day with that pile
Having a lot of fun with malus in TW3 didnt fully realise why it was so much better, like the analysis.
Really glad to see legit one man doomstacks without trait manager. Was getting tired of seeing "theory stacks" which would realistically involve not using LLs for 150+ turns trying to hunt out these traits
"Local edgy schizo earns himself ten thousand grudges"
Traits are kind of a flaw I see in the one man doomstack rating. Nakai and Kroq'gar are quite out of the way to obtain, there is a maximum to the traits you can have (all traits, not just defeat) and if you get too many from fighting too much you can't get more, and the factions could be dead by the time you actually reach them in the first place (ESPECIALLY Nakai). It's not like they're not good traits but I do think at that point a trait manager isn't uncalled for just to defeat a luck factor and a fatigue factor. Imagine going 50 rounds and hitting critical mass and going to fight Nakai or Kroq'gar and they've already been wiped out, game couldn't tell you because you didn't send heroes to spy on them.
Malus Darkblade known as "Alfa and Omega", "The Beginer and The Ender of time", only realible one-man army.
I remember on my high-elven run, I had to deal with this guy invading one of my keeps and nearly single-handedly wrecking the place.
I managed to win though, not by surrounding him and trying to kill him, was never going to work with how he was outhealing all my damage, rather I just moved my forces out of the way and let him charge the flag, then had my own infantries stand in the capture zone out of range from Malus, who didn't persue the nearby soldier.
Thus ending the battle in a draw, to which the Ai decided to retreat from the keep, lol.
@aola wili I've positive you replied to the wrong comment there.
In my opinion, they've managed to make the ai less fun for the cheesers, exploiters, one man armies because it's not how the game was to be played.
I can understand people want to just destroy and have little to no opposition, campaign would takes months with armies of poorer quality than doomstack. I like certain doomstacks but I am casual, I love the big armies, I like to include all units, I like the challenge that brings more strategy working with these larger micromanaging armies than the "Throw in and forget".
This is Total War, not God of War.
I know people don't have time, but for me, this is more fun.
Don't agree at all really.
I think the ai is not much less fun, it's jsut bad in a different way, my issue is that they have not fixed anything. For example Instead of shooting single small lords, who can jsut dodge shots, they don't shoot them at all, so they can just harass the enemy lines early and get a big headstart, especially if its a caster and you use forest. So it does not help at all regarding the "God of War" point.
Also don't agree with the Doomstack long campaign thing since I only play on very hard or legendary, neber build doomstacks and can't even fathom taking months to ocmplete a campaign. And my favourite armies were like few heroes, some monsters, bunch of fireleech bolas, skink backline and melee frontline.
Last thing I played a few weeks ago I painted the whole map with Oxyotl, which is a very hard campagin cause i.e. legendary Chaos invasion is something that will pop up only in YOUR territory with like 24 armies just in the first wave and "waste" a lot of time, took me barely 20h of playtime. If you only play 4h over every weekend, yo ucould do that in 5 weeks, and I know not everybody is that fast, but it's a really favourable example since playing 4h per week is lower than most players and most never paint a map and would only play like halfway and the latter turns take the longest.
But either way, you do you/everybody shoudl jsut do what is fun for them.
@@AGenericFool the God of War was referencing the 1-man army.
And missile units not targeting small targets, I thought that's an *upgrade* for them actually using their ammo efficiently rather than wasting. Stop the cheesers.
Yes, no one wants to waste a month on a campaign when most can't with time or patience, I know I don't go all the way, I've a 1000+ hrs on WH2 and I finished maybe 4 campaigns total, just I like early game more so.
Take my opinion with a grain of salt, I can see the ai have not improved a whole lot, but to me it seems they've been made to not benefit cheesers.
The endgame crisis throws big armies against your big armies, with strategy or overwhelming power, play as you wish, im fighting with all tactics in mind and not just throwing 1 man or unkillable monsters
I do love a Malus stack
Zhao Ming can get more weapon strength, can cast spells, has a smaller hitbox, it has a mortis engine and can fly. Its just better all around not to mention he dosent need the sword of Khaine.
He can't get the ward save though, which is the thing which makes a one man doomstack viable...
Yeah, pretty much the only reason for the sok here is for the spell, if you get some more melee defense, drop some wardsave would be okay, plus you kill them faster so you don’t need as much longevity
@@dostayer3369 Wth are you talking about?
Bejeweled dagger + 25%
Celestial Dragon Banner +20%
Trickster+Preservation + 26%
Iron ward + 5% =
76% without the Sok or the blade of Slaneesh with witch he is far above 90%.
the only campaign where going out of your way to make a single entity army is fun and lore accurate is skarbrand
Doesn't even need winds of magic. Edgiest man alive for the win.
Missile units behave so dumb in this one when their vision is even a slight bit obscured. Had a patriarch on a bear fighting Throgg, and my stretsi wouldn't shoot the towering Throgg because the patriarch was between them. It was very frustrating to watch.
This doomstack in wh2 was the first video of yours I watched.
If I recall, Malus gets 5% ward save from his legendary sword. So w/o the sword of Khaine he still gets 71%-81% ward save depending on his form. Not capped but very respectable.
With blobs like these it's hard to imagine anyone doing better than Teclis.
I would say Azazel is still the best, because he has his own magic, doesn't need the sword of Khaine, can fly and is a small target.
Villitch is the very best of course, because he's in literal godmode, but that will get nerfed if it hasn't already.
Villitch will be nerfed. He's powerful in MP battles as well
Thanks for going back and making a new one random guy
POV, The Main Character.
I'm going to have nightmares of meeting this 1 man doomstack in campaign.
I never want to face you in a battle brother, peace be with you .
What other lords could be 1 man doom stacks? First time ever I see this, this is kinda cool and I want to try it :D
Dude after 1000's of hours, this here is exactly why Total War has become such a disaster. It no longer has anything to do with strategic planning and everything to do with cheesing stupid AI. Total War is no longer in the strategy gaming department, its in the Cheese Factory.
One must wonder how they managed to make the AI so much worse
Malus with the big phallus
Sigvald sycophants in shambles
I feel like CA can and should do a battle AI overhaul at some point.
Malus is such a badass character
Where do you get that body armor from? Is it unique to dark elves?
Is WH3 good yet? I haven't touched it since early September and I've got time over the holidays, should I hop back in?
14:50 "I am nuts!"
Above maximum health. Lol. Great find
Pretty sure the AI has improved. Waited a bit (1 year) before buying warhammer 3 and just played warhammer 2 on that time. The first faction I played was Cathay and the AI definitely seemed to respond better to missile units and magic. They also tried to get past lines to slaughter your artillery/missile units. If anything, warhammer 2 AI either "went around" your formation to try and do this and just derp out at some point or charge miserably at your front line trying to get past them. In my experience, the AI utilizes the tiniest gaps in the formation to get through it. Kinda annoying but also nice. They still do derp out in warhammer 3 but it isn't as bad as it was in 2. Only took a few battles to get adjusted to AI behavior though and soon enough it felt normal. Can definitely say the AI improved but it's easier for us to adjust to their adjustment than the other way around.
Hmm having the Warp Sword of Khaine available as a quest weapon, I don't think the Real SoK is necessary. Didn't really need it in WH2 either really.
Too much hassle imho. Yeah you lose Wardsave until transforming. But you still have Physical resistance, can swap the Armor for Resistances (SoK = 25 Wardsave against 5% Warpsword + 10% Armor = 81 Wardsave). And after Transformation you gain the other 10% anyway.
Hi! I'm new into TWW. Currently playing TWW2 but I don't know how to make One man doomstack, any advice, video or something so I can learn? Thanks!
8:06 floating toilet seat incoming
That's going in the book...
truly he was a total war: warhammer 3
i see they haven't fixed the dwarf mass overcompensation . I just love having a mammoth or t-rex get stuck on a single dwarf model .
Man seeing all these TWWH3 videos make me think perhaps I shouldn't buy it. I was very happy with TWWH2, but now I just wanna play a historical TW title, with actually good AI and siege.
What about durthu? How would you rank him as a 1 man doom stack?
I remember when wh3 was released and people were thinking Malus was going to get knocked off his throne and I just chuckled my Slaaneshi arse off because Tzarkan is simply too strong for that shit
what impressed me more is how your pc managed to keep up with everything that was happening, fps wise
The best use of one man doomstack is to just have 19 support units to speed up the game.
Had to fight this op lord at the beginning of my demon prince campaign... I came back from wh2 after a very long pause and didn't know about his ability. My face when I saw him going back to full HP and whipping my lord 😅
Any tips you know sensei Legend about acquiring Malus' followers from the whispers? There are some sick things, but I think they are tied to a 20 turn timer and rather unpredictable.
Wait, is it possible to get Isabella's defeat trait? How
I believe she can spawn as a lord during vamp end game crisis
his effective health without regen is a little bit more than 24700 "WITHOUT REGEN" with regen we might add 11k or something
AI and Pathfinding are bonkers in WH3
"You want me to make 20$? Then step the fuck back and work for 30 hours on a save game for me."
Thanquol approves of this video
Would you share these save files in the video descriptions from now on?
Only Zhao Ming can rival Malus as One Man Doomstack GOAT
Teclis in WH2 and Zhao in 3.
I would like to see what happens if a player controllerd the dwarf army
The AI like follow a squared tile map :O
I wonder if the A.I does that based on the balance of power? I’ve never really seen the A.I be really “efficient” which is why it might read the balance of power and just throws all of its army wherever, thinking it’ll be a breeze. Ik a lot of fights end in a blob tho regardless of balance of power
At least the game gives him some respect...unlike his ending in the books. -.-
Man how are your load times so short, I would kill to not have to sit through 5 minute load screens for every battle
You know whats a real one man army? That one dwarf lord that took down 1267 clanrats and won a settlment in a campaign ive long lost. Level 1, no equipment turn 5. Thats a real one man doomstack nothing rivals his raw power.
Perfect strategy game!
This is so wounderfully op
Hi Legend, another great video, I would suggest leaving the artillery kills their own troops is more entertaining and that's how that one men doomstack would be use anyway
"Uchiha Madara vs Shinobi Union army"
I wonder if the 1 man teclis stack can kick his ass like in wh2 with malus using the sok with army backup
I would say the AI in WH3 is better. Yes, it still makes mistakes even when you're not cheesing, but the mistakes they make feel more organic. For the most part, unless I try to actively cheese AI behavior as seen in your videos, the mistakes the AI makes feel like the same kind of misplays and poor macro/micro I might do as a casual player playing on normal campaign and battle difficulty.
That’s hard to say, the blobing and targeting with ranged fire, I wouldn’t say it’s better, it’s like as shit but on different prospect. Of course if you don’t “cheese” , it might seem better, but if you don’t cheese in wh2 the ai also doesn’t seem that stupid, imagine don’t bring cannons in to a siege and just climb on the walls and don’t abuse magic, the ai also don’t suck that way.
From what I've seen so far, I'd say the AI works in phases. It does some decent opening moves, follows up with reasonable choices and then... just gives up.
Another example of worse Ai behavior compared to 2 is that skirmish units such as pistoliers or marauder horsemen get caught by melee.
In warhammmer 2 they would run away and skirmish and would never be caught by slow moving infantry but in warhammer 3 they bend over and let it all happen
How did he take like no damage that whole time though? Like his health didn’t move
How can we setup skarbrand vs malus 1v1 👀
Villitch still takes the cake. P much infinite barrier regen
Whats the best campaign to play and what faction to earn the legendary campaign victory on steam? Having trouble with that one eventually i slip up and AI launches like 20 armies on me from different sides
Hey, love the video, did I hear you right? It's possible to get Isabelas defeat trait? How?
She potentially returns as a lord during the Vampire endgame crisis event
Hello, do you think that you will ever do a one man doomstacks tier list/ranking?
It's kind of a moot list as it's heavily dependent on what is considered most useful, most tanky (Malus, Zhao Ming, Vlad, Tyrion) or fastest killer (Teclis, still Zhao Ming/Vlad) and with/without Sword of Khaine, as they can be pretty night or day depending on those circumstances.
All this aside, I think Be'lakor/Teclis/Zhao Ming/Vlad are going to be your best-bets as they all have ridiculous wardsave/spell-casting and can comfortably murder single entities.