Labour could increase the minimum wages for non-standard working hours
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Vast numbers of people are paid the minimum wage, but it makes no allowance for out-of-hours working or weekend and night working. It really should, and Labour could deliver that change to improve the well-being of all who work in this way at very little cost to it.
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Why does the Government subsidise businesses by paying Universal Credit. Surely anyone, in any, job working 40 hours a week should be paid enough to live on, without requiring benefits.
Because that who they work for..
Or be a bit more careful with there cash most live beyond there means
@@paulsanderson8656 Exactly right. 40% of workers need in work benefits.
Our employers get an extra easy ride.
@@andrewhyde2560 we are forced/manipulated and encouraged too.
Banking is our number one sector they need everyone and his dog in debt.
You are manipulated into wasting your money? Heard it all now sounds like some sort of conspiracy theory to me, people who don’t buy a house is down to lifestyle choice no gain without pain I worked 7 days a week for 10 months to get my deposit, I don’t expect someone to wipe my arse for me
We should have sectoral collective bargaining, like they do in Sweden. Basically employers and Unions have to set out the conditions together for the next five years and the collective bargaining agreements they strike for each sector are the minimum conditions that must be guaranteed to workers by law.
In other words, a supermarket may offer better conditions than the ones in the national collective bargaining agreement, but never worse.
I'm enjoying this series. Make sure you share them folks!
If unions were strengthened then they could negotiate with the employers to improve workers pay so everyone gets a fair deal.
Lots of people in Britain prefer not to have third-parties involved in their personal affairs -- why are you so keen on interferring with other people's freedom? If you want a job in a union shop just go and find one.
Here we see the true meaning of libertarianism. If you want fair pay fair taxation workers rights you are accused of taking away freedom. Asshat nonsense
It used to be the case until 2004.
I won’t hold my breath for this..
That sounds like a good idea, Richard! 🙂👍 (But will Starmer's Labour listen?)
Antisocial hours more importantly have serious health implications so should reflect that.
Of course
The seems to be somewhat misleading information as if people have to do this it’s nonsense if I wanted a job in a restaurant I would expect to work in a evening, if I worked in retail I would expect to work on the weekend it’s when it’s open, when these people are on there days off are they going to pay me more???
Every single sector has its perks it’s ups and its downs, if you working in the building sector your liable to asbestos / dust factors if your a nurse you work nights and even if your a beer taster you would get a hangover!
Why do we have to individually pick a certain sector and inflate there wages it’s nothing but a knock on effect
Dickens would feel right at home today.
As a retail worker and a shop steward I wholeheartedly support this….but the minimum wage should be a living wage. £15 an hour was the figure we were advocating but that should be more like £18 now. Supermarkets capitalise on part time hours to cut costs and expect the state to pick up the tab thru in work benefits. Raising the minimum wage would actually save the government money!
_"but the minimum wage should be a living wage."_
There is no such thing as a "living wage".
_"Raising the minimum wage would actually save the government money!"_
Nope. It just doesn't.
💯👍
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Funny. Loads of people incl. charities and think tanks think there is! Even the outgoing government appears to think there is: but the Tory idea of a living wage is the higher minimum wage! 😏
As that would roughly match the mean national income this would mean that the state would be effectively setting the pay for everyone and with no differentials the economy would be unable to function normally. Millions would have to stop work or turn to the black market or leave the country - society would collapse.
Labour COULD do so many things but they simply won't.
Let the Unions and employer negotiate pay and working conditions. And after their negations were finished; parliament could then elevate the condition reach by the two, to law, for a period 4 years. After which new negations for a new 4 year period; between the two, could begin.
That´s how it´s done in the Netherlands and Sweden more or less
Employment contracts already have legal status - what exactly is the improvement you wish to see?
@@andyinsuffolk the idea is that you´d have minimum conditions across industries and workers had an input in what those conditions are.
@@andyinsuffolk That everyone is protected by law, under the wage and working condition act, as negotiated by the Unions and the Employers.Union member or not you get the same protection. And no contract can set aside, what has been negotiated as an absolut minimum. So you can only be offer better pay and condition than those stipulated by law and not less.
@@michaelmayo3127 --- Ok more state interference in personal exchange relationships -- what happens when you want to offer your services at a 'discount' because you really, really want the employer but the state has made you identical to everyone else from the employer's POV. This is just another reduction in personal freedom to suit a particular special interest -- the reversal of democracy.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Spoiler....they won't.
Spoiler, you have no more idea what they will or won't do than a dung beetle going about its daily business.
@@gio-oz8gf😂😂
I work in construction, so if I work round your house on a weekend are you going to be ok about me charging you more?
This series of videos i wholeheartedly support... But they need to be retitled to "Things Labour won't do"
Doesn’t raising the minimum wage just increase prices?, my friend runs a sandwich bar a he said he’ll increase prices to cover the cost, but if trade goes down because of that he’ll lay off staff, seems counter productive to me.
Labour could legislate so that there is a legal presumption of Equal shared care of children after parents separate...
...but that would scupper what they have at the moment: a proxy employment scheme for Parent A, and financial control of Parent B
What they have at the moment sucks nobody will mind that.
@@paulgibbons2320 yes I agree, it sucks. Well it sucks if you're Parent B - and I'm sure (given that 93% of child maintenance payers are fathers) that Parent B is, most of the time, a father. Technically speaking I should point out that Government "displaces" the income of parent B everytime they give a house to Parent A...it's a truly brutal system.
@@stevenmackay3342 I'm in that club too.
Employers are never obligated to pay you enough money to raise a family.
But when you split up you become eligible to pay for your family.
It's an absolute con.
They know it aswell.
I have faught them for years on this.
@@stevenmackay3342 sorry experiencing some 'RUclips' disruption. So the 'read more' tab is not actually working.
@@paulgibbons2320 I would call it "legislative engineering"...
Anyway, it sounds like you've had a pretty rough time with it all. You have my empathy.
Corbyn was asked by a coffee bar owner how he would afford the wage. The reply was that more people would be able to afford coffee. Trickle up economics. Time to give it a try.
@@Redf322 True! 🙂
Economists call it, Marginal Propensity to Consume. Billionaires have very little. Poor people got it in spades. Trickle Up is the only solution
@@WarrenPeaceOG 💯👍
They don't, though. They save, and if they buy 1 coffee a day, most coffee shops have regulars. They aren't going to buy another in the same day.
@@saw6386 The apprentice mechanic two doors down can afford a coffee every morning because he gets paid a better wage
Increasing basic pay disproportionately effects small businesses. There needs to be a different approach. I would advocate a compulsory bonus system. Linked to the business growth.
It's not right that huge multi nationals like amazon, Google ect can declare record profits but pay minimum wages.
You need to some how link the basic pay to the overall scale of the company.
When I hear of these company's using zero hour contracts ect it creates a real loathing for the capitalist ideology.
Exactly if people want more money work harder or for more hours the is maximum someone can pay to stack beans in a supermarket without passing on costs to the consumer, the labour government need to man up and make people realise you get out of life what you put in. Complete nanny state the working man trying to better him self has to pay trainee doctors a 22% rise when they eventually will earn more then them any way - piss take
@@andrewhyde2560 it's all worked out so you can only tread water.
Nobody is aloud to swim.
The uk economy has basically a unlimited amount work, if you ask any person from Eastern Europe they will tell the the truth most British people are lazy instead of doing more to better them self they sit on there crack and demand more from union strikes etc, this video actually proves it more money for working out of hours shifts? Bullshit join the real world if you live somewhere like Romania you do what it takes to put food on your table, they are here because people on benefits and the the young of today are lazy and have no motivation whatsoever expecting to be a millionaire by doing nothing, you talk about treading water most of these people don’t even know where the pool even is and don’t even want to
@andrewhyde2560 I've work two jobs all my life.
Before I went to UNI I worked in factory. When I was at uni I worked in a warehouse.
When I did security, I also did doors.
When I went to sea when I was on dry land I did agency work in factorys full of poles.
The factory I worked in before Uni in 98 was paying more than the factory's now in 2024 because of your cheap foreign skivvys and agencies.
It's never enough to get out the rent trap.
Absolutely. But without rent controls, any wage increase would just be absorbed by greedy landlords. Rents have just been hiked by 20%.
No one forces you to rent a house, if you don’t want to rent buy if you can’t afford to buy move or save get with the times we’re living in a nanny state time for people to man up
@@andrewhyde2560 blame shifting BS. It's your fault you have been a legally exploited slave worker.
Choice between sleeping in the gutter or in a home.
All about choice is it.
Get away with you. Go and count yer peices of silver.
@@andrewhyde2560 Oh dear no right to respond.
@@andrewhyde2560 Yes we are forced to do it. Choice between the devil and the deep blue sea.
Option; A to buy 'none existant' priced out.
Option; B sleep with the crack heads.
Option; C pay 2 thirds of your income to a fat landlord.
It's call railroading. It's no choice at all.
@@andrewhyde2560 two comments deleted by fascist censors defending landlord racketeering.
As all employees have the legal right to request flexible working, unsocial hours (as was) no longer exists. The same hourly rate shall apply regardless of the time of day or day of the week.
Labour could take action to end the tax unfair tax advantages of buying a house using Islamic finance. But you won’t touch that, will you.
I know pub owners who had no choice but to employ more under 21 year olds this year because the national living wage was changed from 23 to 21. They had no choice as they’re barely breaking even as it is. I’m sorry but it doesn’t look like you’ve properly thought this through.
Then close the pub, it's not making enough money to support the business.
@@alex.velascoOr the government could subsidise small community pubs..
@@alex.velasco
Isn’t that a bit of a knee jerk response ?
Because it would probably include half the businesses in the country at the moment. Especially as energy costs have skyrocketed and there’s a cost of living crises let alone a huge loss to the local economy and community.
That’s the kind of short term thinking that’s got us into this mess in the first place.
@@alex.velasco No, go and find a job that pays more money.
That is unfair taxation on drink
If you don’t want to work weekends or nights GET A DIFFERENT JOB!
Facts
The labour government have introduced a £6.40 wage for apprenticeships. I have worked in construction my whole working life and am 5th generation in what I do. Most self employed work a minimum of a 60 working hour week.
If labour think tradesmen will pay a school leaver who has absolutely no clue what they are doing a minimum of £384 a week plus holiday pay sick pay and pension contributions then that is why no one I know will take one on. I have done it in the past paying lads £120 a week and even then I’m out of pocket.
Absolutely ridiculous this is exactly why you can’t have a idiot who has no idea about business making these decisions
@@andrewhyde2560 so we have to import half of bongo bong land and hope they come qualified because you won't pay a young recruit a living wage. I remember when they were on £40 a week.
Talk about a donkey wage.
Absolutely not, my plumber friend just had to pay £2400 to get rid of a absolutely useless 17 year old apprentice who had no interest in the job at all, ridiculous, I have young kids calling me on a daily basis looking for work and they say they want £100 a day, they can’t do the job they don’t have any tools and they can’t drive, the reality is the last labour government completely abolished all industry by these type of outrageous things, maybe ok if you own British Gas but the normal working man can simply not afford to be out of pocket to train a child it’s ridiculous the labour government have absolutely no sense of the real world
@andrewhyde2560 well why don't you tell government how you can train people up ? Because they clearly don't know sort it out.
A basic flat rent is £800-£1200 before bills or food.
If they deserve it or not is another mater. Bottomline is they do need £100 a day or they are just working themselves into debt.
If they lived in a camper van or tent you wouldn't employ them because they have no address.
The problems landlords. They far far too greedy. Claim a grand a month and all they do is call a plumber once a year to do a boiler check.
It's too easy to take money out the bank and too hard to get into the bank. UK cost of living is a scandal.
That's not these kids fault.
Without training they can't get a job. Without a job they can get trained.
Unfair on people not on minimum wage
Bar weekends this is utter nonsense - good luck recruiting night staff on minimum wage - it won’t happen as people won’t accept it. No one pays night and evening staff same money - unless it’s rotating continental shifts and then again there is always a premium. Waste of time
More maths: I see that minimum pay is well over 60% percent of average income in the UK. This means that the average new starter can expect to increase his real earnings by no more than 2/3 during his career -- however much training, experience or responsibility taken on. How much damage has minimum pay already done to the UK -- we have no idea because nobody is looking. I suggest part of the reason why there's so much 'inequality' is because of damage from state interference -- the idea that ever more centralised micro-management will give prosperity to all is fantasy. [Any corrections to my maths would be appreciated - I'd like to be working with the real data]
If you work in this sector you get another day off what is the difference???
If you pay £15 a hour to someone who works in Tescos it means your carrots will go from 50p to 5 quid you would be no better off use your brain ffs
A lot of people are bleating about pubs …. Newsflash. Pubs are not an essential service. Fewer pubs would be a net gain for most communities. Ditto cafes. And we have too many restaurants and takeaway food outlets too for that matter. We are wasting too many resources on activities that bring no benefit and often cause harm to us and the planet.
Dangerous nonsense. Pubs and cafes are community hubs. They have a social function way beyond their commercial presence.
Yeah why don't people just stay in their boxes like good serfs. Glad people like you with your good sense on how to properly restrict people being able to socialise exist.
You have every right for your comments if you don’t like a pub don’t go to pub, I don’t drink coffee and I wouldn’t pay a fiver for one! But unfortunately the labour government can’t get to grips with the idea that if you have to pay someone more the product will cost more, it’s basic economics all that will have is huge inflation followed by a huge bust it’s a massive cycle labour are renowned for it
@@andrewhyde2560 The old nonsense about wages causing spiralling inflation? They don't.
It’s a actual fact, if you own a pub and pay some one £15 a hour the beer will be more, less people drink the beer the pub shuts its basic how can someone be so thick to not think this when you run a business it’s to make money not be some one’s friend, you need a percentage on product after cost to survive.
I work in construction shall we all start charging you £15 a hour to drive to your house and give you quote plus all the paperwork involved? That what they do in Australia 100 dollars to get someone to look at your job!!!
“Very little cost to introduce”. Completely wrong. Absolute nonsense.
He's a lefty, who lives in his own little echo chamber.