Cargo Cult Democracy | Guest: Curtis Yarvin | 2/23/23
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2023
- Political theorist Curtis Yarvin joins me to discuss conservatism, democracy, and what the Right needs to understand about political power.
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Omg the gRAPE vs seduction analogy with DeSantis and Ruffo was a masterpiece
Yes and no. Not once he went on and on about how Republicans should do nothing but said nothing about the abusive destructive behavior of Democrats and WTF THEY should stop doing. What's his take on the effectiveness of Democrat actions? Cuz they seem to be VERY successful in destroying anything the put their mind to AND GETTING AWAY with it.
How do you seduce the mob?
@@Braylon18I think Moldbug spoke more specifically about seducing the young elites. Basically, these prestigious educated predominantly blue-state folks that are propping up the old regime. Since democracy thrives on civil war, the conservative population mainly just barks at these people and stimulates their fear while not actually achieving anything. And Yarvin’s suggestion is that we all take a step back from energetically participating in this superficial college football game and shake hands on something new.
"You want to win? Don't care about issues, care about power."
The number one thing to take away from this stream.
It is basically, if you want to win, become a communist.
I do not see why anyone think Curtis is good at anything.
Yes but the question the is how to grab that power..? This is where Curtis is a bit unclear
Okay, grab power, but never use it. Got it. 🙄
@@RCCarDude once you have all the power then you can care about issues.
@@mememagician97 Who and how does anyone know what's "all the power"? You only know of the power you have in hand in the now.
Tl;dr: “conservative action” is all performative.
Controlled opposition to slow the change, hence the stonetoss comic about a conservative in 2050 feeling like dog marriage is fine but baby marriage is going too far (something to that effect)
If you actually solve the problem, then you’ve got nothing to get the base fired up
"Jeremy's chocolate"
@@markcollins2704 oh dear I just saw that 🙄😂
Good job Auron, you managed to make the dissident right’s very own Quentin Tarantino stay on point. No easy task!
What a slam
The problem with Curtis' conceptualization of national divorce where the left and right live together as neighbors with different institutions like, for instance, education, is that the left's whole schtick is arguing that education that doesn't raise critical consciousness of white supremacist oppression creates oppressive individuals. Does he think that leftists would be content with sending their own kids to revolutionary training camps while allowing your children to be taught, say, science that rejects non-binary sex in humans? Does he really think that leftists would be content living next to 'transphobic upholders of white supremacy'?
I think his position is that the left can be persuaded into holding some of the former more classical liberal values by a sexy non rapey "cool" pop culture, but its up to the right to develop that. Not saying I agree as I am of the more forceful position, but the right's major pop culture has been mostly cringe.
@@joshlyons1005this. So much of it comes down to aesthetics. And what do we have? Dudes larping as nazis, or like daily wire/PragerU shit. This is not a positive vision for the future its a temper tantrum.
There is a non-insignificant portion of us on the right that threw Yarvin away because of some bad takes in his blog and I think that is a terrible and stupid mistake. Yarvin is essential.
he is the spymaster of our medieval court.
I haven't had the time to read through it, could you highlight the more egregious examples of his bad takes?
Thanks for having Curtis on, he may not say what people want to hear but he makes an incredibly important point about building power instead of wasting power.
Interesting analogies.
I like them, I just think he continually applied them poorly. 200 proof everclear makes you blind and insane, gRapey things are sexualizing kids in schools, etc., and any new movement or new elite tactic starts small and grows. He loses me over and over with these analogies. All these things he's criticizing are "stepping back to jump farther" and they are intelligent and thought out. Strangely cutting up everything that is promising. I'm only 40 minutes in and sorta bummed.
Here’s that Dabney quote about conservatism that Curtis referred to:
“Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader.”
Really didn’t expect Yarvin to sound like Ben Shapiro with valley girl vocal fry.
I have always been a little intimidated by Yarvin, but he seduced me with this.
Once, a philosopher. Twice? A sodomite!
One doesn't preclude the other
@@frankfurter343 👌🏻
Best Yarvin interview ever. He didn’t go off on wild history lessons or tangents, most clear and concise. Amazing interview
What's wrong with history lessons? They are extremely important to as are tangents.
Tangents are intrinsically part of authentic wisdom
"Donald Trump's job is to make sure Humpty Dumpty has a great fall"
Always good to hear from a guy named Curtis.
He says managers are decisive. It is true in silicon valley where he lives, not so much at large east coast corporations. I worked at both. Here the managrs are bureaucrats who enforce excessive processes and documentation standards. So, calling it managerial revolution is mostly right. The point of the MR is not that there are managers, but that the managers multiplied and turned into bureaucrats who venture outside of the scope of business.
Because those east coast companies are older and larger. Everything decays including monarchies.
I’ve been reading Moldbug since his UR blog back in the day and have always had trouble keeping up with him in his interviews because of the historical tangents he goes on, but he was pretty on point here, good job.
His tangents are my favorite
Auron, I don't usually like listening to Curtis, but you made him palatable. You're doing a fantastic job! I don't know why I didn't find your channel until a few months ago, but it's one of my favorites now. I get a notification from you, I click. Really appreciate your work. ETA: Curtis, the answer to would you hire the coder from Harvard or the coder from Lambda is that you'd hire the most competent one. Also, Auron, you're right. Prestige is mobile. As Harvard chooses to reject the most qualified people, they will go elsewhere. In a couple decades, Harvard degrees will signify conformity to wokeness, nothing else. I sadly know what I'm talking about. I've watched it happen from the inside.
He's the best. Together with TheDistributist. Do you also watch TheDistributist?
@@gulanhem9495 Yes, I do, and I like him a lot, too, but something about the way Auron presents his thoughts just connects with me. He's given me a lot of nourishing food for thought, and I've used his insights to as a springboard for my own thoughts. I also really appreciate his friendly, unassuming manner, which is a quality he share with Dave. Top-class guys, both of them.
@@Ferdinand314 Auron has a way of explaining concepts in a terse and straightforward manner that's easy to understand, while The Distributist will go into depth on just about any topic under the sun and take you on an intellectual journey through anecdote, analogy, and allegory. they're different styles of presentation, and i enjoy listening to both. they're my 2 favorite streamers currently.
Yarvin gRAPED me with this excellent interview
Between the interviews, podcasts, and short videos, this channel is the best hidden gem on yt in a long while.
Great job with the interview Auron! You challenged Yarvin’s options in all the relevant ways.
Pretty amazing to watch this today. Barbeque is now the leader of Haiti.
13 and a half minutes in and I can confirm he did interview Mencius Moldbug.
Gets really good around the halfway mark.
I appreciate Yarvin’s description of why the Rufo style action wont work. I just dont agree that seduction will work in this case. 😂
I think Dark Elf Seduction has a 99% chance of failure, but Rufo Conservatism has a 100% historical failure rate.
But let’s be honest, who will be more effective in overturning the woke? Rufo or Yarvin? Rufo at least has a grab of the mainstream crowd
@@brianmeen2158 if you read Yarvin’s classic writing you will understand why the current system is perfectly insulated from American public opinion- the same answer for why culture “always shifts left”
52:00 even just mentioning the “dirtbag left” makes Curtis’ lungs fill with repellant. He’s. That. Committed. Lol.
"I like to drink" - Uncle Yarv
Think he was drinking before this interview
@@Jkp1321 You really think he would do a podcast drunk
@@danwroy yes
@@Jkp1321 I'm gonna need three examples of him doing a podcast while actively drinking; no, make that five.
@@danwroy "a podcast" = five podcasts. Hmm.
LOVED this. Thought provoking and some very startling ideas
I've never heard "like" said so many times.
Thank you for your work, Mr. MacIntyre and Mr. Yarvin.
This triggered the 'Sure Jan' promo to play in my head a few times
Curtis is usually so long winded and meandering...that I find it hard to get a single actionable suggestion from his talks. This was NOT the case here. For the first time, I think I actually heard him make some concrete suggestions. I wish he would do so more often...and I think he is understanding that he needs to be more concise in order for people to "get" his platform.
I think he knows that.
He is detailed in his speech cuz he's laying out Based.. nuanced accounts of how power structures and human psychology play out in reality.. and talking about what you can do in this world. It is disheartening to hear so many people in the live chat throwing stones cuz he's not directly pushing some plan for a Neo-American pure Christian theocracy.. the people pushing those half baked notions as anything other than some dream for the next century.. are grifters or low IQ... in my opinion.. More importantly, they have no feasible plan to achieve their goals.. just rhetoric.. that only serves to prove his points the vast majority of the time.
However he hasn't said anything here that less well known members of neoreaction *ahem* haven't been saying for 8 years.
Yeah he was pretty clear anc concise for his clairemont talk as well
It's better on mainstream channels to be indirect, he also talks like a programmer
Haven't gotten through this yet, but so far a fantastic conversation. I see Rufo was mentioned early on, and while I like him and he has done some good work, he still is too soft I've found, especially on what needs to be done to right the ship. In some cases he has accepted the premise of the enemy we're dealing with. Frankly, I find it dubious when he does things like what he did with Yarvin. It reads as a tacit gatekeep to boost himself and keep the issues going at a baseline level so him, and others like him, can keep their jobs. It always starts off with pejoratives like "cynical." Yarvin has a great quote at the beginning describing this bizarre game within "conservatism." I see this scam everywhere.
Looking forward to watching the rest.
Rufo only cares about CRT and affirmative action because his kids are half Asian. As usual, there needs to be another group to give you a moral imperative to care about something.
You are correct. Rufo seems like a pretty good guy, but is still very soft and has a lot to learn. Credit him for coming as far as he has come; he still has a ways to go.
I remember how Chris Rufo congratulated Dave Rubin and his 'husband' on their surrogacy. I like him and think he's done great work in Florida, but it's still insufficient.
@@TheArctofireHD -- Rufo and Dave Rubin are really erstwhile liberals who at some point stopped moving leftward with the other libs. That's not really exceptional. Many people were more liberal until they figured out what bullshit they'd been fed all their lives through media and academe.
@@dvg4104 I don't think Rufo is, but with the Rubin congratulation he, like many other good conservatives, shows that he has the tendency to fall into the Neocon trap.
I personally believe the conservative acceptance of gay marriage was a catastrophe, and it proved ample ammunition for the woke to taunt about how conservatives will always be on the 'wrong side of history'. Obergefell was a true turning point when the LGBT activists believed, rightly, there was nothing the establishment would say no to.
If they gave up on marriage, something they claimed was the basis of western civilization, will they eventually give up on the struggle against transgender insanity and child mutilation? Recent history suggests that is the most likely outcome.
There's a difference between slightly modifying your 'language' in order to attract defected liberals, and selling out your convictions. In 2023, conservatives should still be saying that marriage is between a man and a woman, if they want to retain any credibility.
56:56 “sure, sure, sure, sure” 😆
This may be the most important Yarvin interview just due to the amount of pressure it puts on the conservative majority of his listeners.
The comments in the chat were hilarious from 12 minutes and onward. "worst intro ever", "record setting gobbledegook", "Sidetrack master", "I've lost the plot", "he's having a stroke", "Moldbug never had problem with word count essays", "I wish there was a 8x speed." 😂
The contrast to Auron MacIntyre is extreme, who is so verbal, effective with every word, so easy to understand and able to pull it off in real time live. 🥰
I understand and really appreciate the importance of Curtis Yarvin, and I'm excited he's been so active in video form in the last couple of years, but I have to admit that my attention span is too limited to listen through most of his talks.
skill issue I guess
Every time Yarvin says that some bases idea is crazy or unrealistic I think to myself "don't threaten me with a good time."
It's odd that someone that will read isn't aware of histories many examples of actual change through minority push pull when that seems to be his main point in earlier works. Seems more like a "holy shit guys I didn't mean to actually do it!" moment and he's very much not a conservative. Which I ask again to the void why ask your enemy how to defeat them?
@@Cpruett yes. He seems very adept at observing and describing the situation. I don't see why his prescriptions are any more realistic than actions actually being done, unless they're intended to seem that way.
@@filioque4509 I see it the same way - Yarvins ideas are not practical at all imo .. Rufo will make a little progress in certain spots and starting new institutions is a good step - Yarvin plans on doing what exactly?
Hillsdale is full of people who follow Yarvin and this circle of the internet both professors and students. Don't be confused by their public mask for normies.
That gives me hope… but you got any proof?
Curtis be like: F it, r*pe analogy
Like . . .like . . . like . . .
Sure.
… and so …
Auron should moderate a debate between Yarvin and Chris Rufo, or one of the smarter DeSantis orbiters/ “STATE POWAHH” folks.
I’d love to see that
I’d prefer if Yarvin talked like a normal person but he makes interesting points
You need story and metaphor to understand reality.
@@hhhhippo AAAHM yes, you do.
bro he's just Jewish cool it with the anti semitism
@@Vingul legend
I love his talking style
I'm from the Netherlands. Pilarization worked untill the 50's. Now it's something we only know from history class and most people have no clue what pilar their parents were in.
I am as well. How do we go back to something like that if it could happen do you think?
"Win by making yourself like the Amish. The elites will stay in power but let you be. And maybe even let you have your own little Indian reservation.", sounds more like a prophecy of things to come than a strategy. It's not "stepping back to make a greater leap." You make yourself like the Amish, you will be as irrelevant as the Amish. Forever. He's right in pointing out a lot of failing strategies, but I don't think his strategy works either.
Notice he says Amish and not Orthodox Jews.
Dammit it's like listening to a Valley Girl who reads Gibbon.
This strategy of "we don't want to hurt you" doesn't work. We've acquiesced for 60 years and all the while drifted further left. Unless we're talking breakup, then this path only leads to more concessions given to people who view us as enemies.
Using his analogy, it seems you are being raped, bit you can stop that by telling the person they won't be raped in return if they stop.
"we will definitely hurt you" clearly doesnt seem to be working either
@@mememagician97 "we will definitely hurt you whilst not having the power to do so" is the pits
@@JonathanSaxon Curtis seem to want a "nobody hurts anybody" approach. Which makes sense considering that, historically, a ruling class that acquires prestige by how much they can fuck up the peasants lives is a pretty rare oddity.
@@mememagician97 Well considering how we've got people who seem to want civil war, and civil war would mean millions dead, I can't say I blame him for wanting a peaceful approach.
Picture of Yarvin in the leather jacket looking cheeky and mischievous never won’t go hard
The point of fortifying power locally, is all about ensuring that the people on the right have somewhere to retreat when they lose other battles. It shouldn’t matter what progressives outside of Florida things about what goes down in Florida.
It seems the main gist Yarvin wants to get to the right is to think less about fighting, and more about dancing. That's interesting, but idk how to do something like that, even in casual hangouts. I know that arguing with my left leaning friends is completely useless, but I haven't much considered as to how to make their 'leftist tribe' seem less sexy to them. If I've learned anything spending time with them, it's that they can rationalize anything to themselves 🤔
They believe what works for them, its a psuedo religion that sates their desire for virtue, having been brought up in a christian society. The solutions in their beliefs are caused by the people spouting them, nothing will change until people actually have a say in their institutions. But why bother, we're so vulnerable, the elites don't care because trying for us would only mean upholding a sham.
Interesting to see the agents of containment do their thing.
nicely done.
At least Yarvin admits we live in a satanic age.
What are the main thoughts?
The best way to win over wokism is to create an alternative culture, which has spirit of a joyful rebirth. To create alternative institutions like universities and charter schools, alternative movie production, media, alternative and attractive lifestyle, alternative social movement. Alternative NGO and charitable organisations, alternative thinktanks. First we need to ask for tolerance and koexistence, then attract the youth of the woke side on the merits of being better.
That was a great discussion. I think I'll have to watch it again to catch everything Yarvin said.
I think Yarvin is good at providing a partial diagnosis of the problem with his cathedral model but he's not really someone who provides solutions.
Yeah that’s my main issue with Yarvin - he’s great at describing the problem and what wont work but he never gives workable ideas himself
He rambles endlessly with little substance.
Total victory looks like locally owned independent businesses being the norm, home ownership being the norm & strong families & local communities in a network of American prosperity & leadership by example for the world.
NO BUT I NEED AMAZON PRIME INSTANT DELIVERY YOU COMMIE
total victory looks like tanks in Harvard
@Johan Vos No.
@Johan Vos Yeah & the separation of an official religion & the state is part of what needs to be the "religion" or path forward. There's enough religious authoritarianism in world history, the only thing worse is the religion of "atheists." Public & private need separation. Yes the public sector isn't entirely neutral. Even opposing murder is "religious" at the end of the day. The public strategy & policies should be focused on protecting children & thus families. That's "religious" enough without having to call it Judaism, Christianity, Zoroastrian, etc.
Capitalism, personal ownership, strong families and local autonomy are all compatible with and encouraged by monarchy.
“Leadership by example” can be a slippery slope towards universalist liberal rhetoric, though.
Yeah, I have no disagreements with Curtis Yarvin when he talks about getting election security.
Interesting guest!
You can’t be a social liberal and an economic conservative. If you believe that people can do whatever they want then you have to be willing to pay for the government services necessary to clean up the mess.
#MOLDBUGMAFIA
You mean BREADMOLD the GARDEN GNOME fan club?
cringe
I'd love to see an interview with Yarvin where the host makes a secret play to say at little as possible, if anything at all, once they get him started. And the goal is to see how long Yarvin will talk before stopping or trying to include the host. I'd wager that he could go for at least 90 minutes without a sweat, but it could be far longer than this, who knows...
The whole point of conservatism is to hold radicalism in shape. To allow for little pin pricks of leftism to slowly erode society rather than take the front vanguard action to reforming the system in the image of the reactionary or nationalist and doing what's right by the people. The point of conservatism is to give a sense of a enemy that's out there, that needs to be fought, but the conservative effeminate touch keeps the pot from boiling over (i.e. conservatives share power, which is misnomer, you gain power and somebody else loses power). Conservatives therefore lose power since all institutions, media, academia, intelligentsia, NGO's keep moving left.
If you want kids to get a more conservative education, maybe conservatives shouldn't say things like, "those who can't do, teach, hur hur hur." No conservatives want to be teachers! What did y'all expect would happen?
Kinda reminds me of "cities bad, move to the countryside!"
"Why are none of my lads fixing PCs?"
Such a wonderfully twisted Daoist as always.
First 15 minutes coulda been summarized as "be Andrei Tarkovsky, not Pureflix"
I liked the part where he compared trying to change anything in the current climate to rape.
It's just an analogy for force and persuasion. Just more flashy for memey reasons.
They cry out in pain as they strike you. Or in this case call you a rapist while you're the one being raped.
@@anotherj4896 not persuasion, persuasion doesn't work. seduction works.
The lefty mind of his sees the only good as sex. I'm catching up on his work but I honestly don't see the appeal.
A deeply important observation that shows that he still has deep affinity to the Blue Elite.
It's nice to see that the neoreactionary movement has become more pragmatic over the years. When it was popular in the 2010s it was pretty larpy. Since then there has been a resurgence (probably due to Yarvin's return) and it seems to be more in line with the Italian elitist school of political theory but with some updated material from Sam Francis, Paul Gottfried and Curtis Yarvin.
That's So Yarvin
Moldbug sneezing meme inbound...
lovely
I do agree with Yarvin that rightist need to put other rightist in position of power, as oppose to passing a law that can only be enforced by those who believe in it’s legitimacy when the question of beliefs haven’t been completely settle.
Yarvin, if you want an orchard in a forest, you need to clear the land.
"Hey Curtis, huge fan of your work. I’m currently trying to read up on colonialism’s history in South America and Africa and I don’t trust Amazon to give me unbiased suggestions. Any recommendations?" Yeah Lothrop Stoddard's works. Particularly Lothrop Stoddard's "The French Revolution in San Domingo.
Old people were all huffing leaded gas. God Bless from Oregon
Yeah. Dewokification for the wins.
Entire thing with Yarvin is he's great for theory and talking about subjects he's not involved in, not so much with actually doing things.
...and? Have you ever seen anyone in your lifetime "actually do" a thing? Reagan doesn't count.
I get the frustration. But actually this is true about most political commentators and analysts. But concrete action is not Yarvin's role. His role is analysis of how the political world works.
It's up to others to come up with solutions, depending on their goals. This is nothing strange. We all have different talents and roles.
I don't think this is true at all, once you realize all the supposed "solutions" you were fed are a naive fantasy, Yarvin's sobriety makes a lot of sense.
The man actually has solutions, they just don't make you personally feel as powerful in the immediate sense, so people don't tend to register them.
@@mememagician97 Well said!
@@mememagician97
Exactly.
In our circles, when you are in the bubble, like in the chat to this video, people have these wild power fantasies. "This guy (refering to Yarvin) only cares about liberal elites", "Just root them out" rhetoric.
As if it's realistic to just magically will ourself back to the 50's.
It's hilarious how unaware some people are about the discrepancy in power. I'm pretty sure that the same radicals in their day to day lives are silent as a mouse when they go to their job, completely submitting to the liberal order.
The discussion of the managerial class around 01:09:00 and following could be clarified by the use of Weber's three forms of legitimate governance, the three being the rational-legal (what Yarvin calls "process"), the traditional, and the charismatic (with "command" divided between traditional and charismatic authority). But our contemporary understanding of "management" is neither traditional nor charismatic, and the categories don't exactly line up with Weber's. However, "command" can certainly take traditional or charismatic forms.
Interesting
It feels like Yarvin still has disdain for those of us in flyover country and he can only consider things from the urbanite noble class
Flyover country is in such a demoralized situation it deserves pity more than anything.
While I love them, this was inevitable given their disposition, especially when they don’t even understand that their enemy has effectively declared total war on them in a more or less explicit manner.
@@kylewarner4611 I know. It's so frustrating trying to get the normiecon masses to realize how things are so much further gone than they ever thought.
Being on the right is about talking about reality and hierarchy. And the red staters are dumb peasants I know this because I live there. The libs are evil and degenerate aristocrats but that doesn’t mean the peasants aren’t peasants.
I feel it viscerally in this talk, but ngl im kind of okay with it. He's not King Yarvin, he just provides a useful perspective, and the whipcrack that comes with can be just as useful.
Curtis's books are kindle only :-( at lest on Amazon. Why?
You can find them all online in blog form. That is the preferred way to read them because they are heavy with hyperlinks which provide context and occasionally jokes relevant to what is being discussed.
That flame right above that dude's head
I much prefer listing to Yarvin than reading his stuff. The guy writes like a postmodern philosopher with no concept of brevity or respect for the readers time.
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17:48
THIS
Like,like,like,like,like,like,like
Love Yarvins blog posts and how he writes "how things are as opposed to how we would like them to be." As far as interviews and oration, not a fan to be honest. Everyone expresses themselves better in one form or the other
52:02 Curtis Yarvin sneezes...
It may have started with Joachim de Foire!
They made a voting map for election day voters and the whole map was red
I don’t remember of the rightist who brought this up but, I think enemies and friends exist on a spectrum which means that they can’t all be treated the same. I think Auron show understand what I’m saying since he’s had a civil conversation with Yarvin despite the fact that Yarvin is an atheist. Aggression should be spared for active enemies, while passive enemies should be persuaded into being apolitical before they can even have a chance of becoming a friend( passive or active). Anyone who knows the thinker I’m referencing can fill in the blanks.
Yeah true. And Auron did push back a little bit at times which was good. It’s hard when you’re dealing with someone who is smart but also extremely prideful like Yarvin. There’s just no use in correcting his unnecessary and frankly sophomoric blue state jabs
What a guest, who do you think he should bring next?
James Lindsay, although their relationship might be a bit frosty at the moment. I saw Auron discuss with WokalDistance recently on Benjamin Boyce's show, and it was really productive. It's good to have people who don't agree with you 100%, in order to get pushback and refine and sharpen your views.
@@gulanhem9495 Why does James hate Auron so much? It’s weird to me.
@@DukeBluedevil70
I don't know! It's weird.
@@DukeBluedevil70 It was a single tweet
@@ronaldmcnuggets8964 Lol. Not true.
Make Mcarthyism great again
AHAHAHAH his response to the michael malic question XD XD XD
Give the parents control of the school system, or at least the parents that do live in Florida.
Holy hell was chat seething during this one. I knew a lot of the right had turned on him (even though he has remained pretty consistent as far as I can tell) but the malding was immense.
Yarvin: writes essays with exact same overarching argument preceding the alt-right by a decade, writes thousands of words debunking egalitarianism, praises Rhodesia and Confederacy, calls liberalism and communism worse than fascism
Wignat right: “Woah, this guy doesn’t want a people’s revolution led by low-IQ antisemitic rappers and gay streamer grifters. Obvious J3wish fed.”
Why did the right turn on him?
@@brianmeen2158 1) covid
2) he is okay with tranny kids being legal
3) it sometimes seems like his vision is classical liberalism (?)
@@brianmeen2158 He called them Hobbits.
You’ve made it Auron. ❤😊
This is a long video, so I’m going to leave multiple comments. I’m already 11 minutes in a I feel that Curtis is actually arguing against aggressiveness on the right( he also used the religious right as an example). I don’t think the problem with the right is that aggression never works. The problem is that the religious right keeps assuming that the establishment has their back or that institutions are neutral, which is why they never seemed to care about taking over institutions.
44:55 The jist of it.
“In the Kingdom of satan can men be seduced by Christ and how does he accomplish that?”
-Curtis Yarvin
From the Cathedral: Have you tried turning it off and then back on again? 🤷♂️
i dont know about some of these premises
the parents are moving vai-negativa
its about things they dont want, not about things they do want
*yellow dollar sign stands in your path*
Let’s say you’re in a room with a group of people that somewhat represents the population of America. Some of those people will think it’s appropriate for a man to open the door for a woman entering the room. Some of the people will say that opening the door is patriarchal oppression or even rpe. Most people won’t give a shit about opening the door. So when you open the door, the point isn’t to let the woman in, it’s to expose the people that are calling you a rpist for opening the door. If the people that didn’t give a shit about the door now think your enemies are lunatics, then your power has increased. You’ve gone from a person who can open a door, to a person that can dismiss your enemies as lunatics. So in a way, it is taking a small amount of power and using it to gain more power.