As I said in the stream, this is horse manure. You said a Mobula8 won’t be required to have remote ID because it doesn’t have a “complex camera”, yet they do, the top of the range ones have DJI O3 4k cameras on and I have several sitting on the desk in front of me ready for flying tomorrow that have various cameras on that are all capable of recording 1080P up to 4K footage onboard, these range from 24grams upwards to about 75 grams AUW. They clearly have no idea about some parts of the hobby despite being told multiple times by multiple people at their so called “workshops”. They need to stop trying to regulate all the different disciplines under the same umbrella, nobody will ever be getting their weekly shop delivered by drone anyway so most of these regulations are for something that will never happen. Me flying my 75gram Mobula8 around my garden or even a 5” round a field is not in the remotest bit the same as a surveyor doing a roof or bridge inspection, heck my Moblua8 isn’t even heavy enough to put a dent into the side of a van - don’t ask how I know - but is being treated the same as a 5kg Matrice in the regulations. As a committee member of a club, I can tell you what these regulations will help achieve, and that’s the end of the hobby, people that have been flying for decades have stopped and left the club already and that’s with Article 16, more regulations will just make matters worse. There should be three regulations for hobbyists. 1) don’t fly in no fly zones. 2) have insurance. 3) don’t be a dick (I.e. don’t put people in danger or distress). Leave the phone book thick regulations for commercial operations.
Yes those types would certainly be included. The types they intend to exclude are the tiny whoop starter kits etc. Anything more complex would get caught up unless using the Article 16 exemption.
@@Geeksvana there’s no such thing as a starter kit, whoops by their very nature have cameras on ranging from 480p analogue up to 1080p digital, how on earth are they going to justify that one has to have remote ID but the other doesn’t? They’re clueless when it comes to this side of the hobby. I’ll put remote ID on my Tinywhoop when the 50+ private planes that fly over my house coming out of the local aerodrome daily do the same.
I've come to the conclusion that having today renewed my flyer and operator id that im on a 5 year countdown to ditching the hobby. My mini 2 will be 10 years old by then and if still going strong might be of use to someone but for the handful of times i fly every year, by then its going to be over regulated with too many changes to keep pace with. I want to enjoy flying in retirement not be glued to web pages looking for the most recent changes to legislation. Thanks for your time and info Sean 👍 without your channel id have lost track with everything years ago.
24:00 is an ISO standard. (Designed to denote the end of a day, not the beginning of a day) so used correctly in this doc :) “As of ISO 8601-1:2019/Amd 1:2022, “00:00:00” may be used to refer to midnight corresponding to the instant at the beginning of a calendar day; and “24:00:00” to refer to midnight corresponding to the instant at the end of a calendar day.”
To me this does not feel like a "simplification" of rules/regs at all, but more of a "blanketing of all drone operations" (encompassing a whole heap more of the recreational side of things). And, who are the 'stakeholders'? I would have thought that anyone that flies a drone (in this case) is a 'stakeholder'. I really, really struggle to see positives in any of this Sean... What's happening here is just "more rules" to deal with, not less. I don't know if this stuff will ultimately see the end of the drone hobby, but I have a horrible feeling that it will. Thanks for diving into it and making me depressed again :) Cheers!
Wow even just skimming through this, FPV and self build is dead, I'm gonna have to give thought to wether to sell up as it doesn't look like I'll be able to fly legally anymore. As I fed back to the CAA in the last consultation (that they obviously ignored) they seem unable or unwilling to accept that there are other drones apart from DJI.
Additionally, post 2028 there is zero incentive to learn and train more as there is no benefit in doing so. If one of the aims of the CAA is to increase and improve UAS knowledge this directly goes against it.
Gah, does the CAA know what a drone is. Like many other countries they don't understand the differences in remote controlled aircraft like a Discus Launched Glider is in their eyes the same as a DJI inspire which is the same as a scale EDF F-16 jet. What the CAA needs to do is separate the types of craft and the types of users. A person flying a RC Aircraft like a Cub is much likely to have a lower risk than a person who bought a DJI style RC aircraft. The first person has been flying and building RC aircraft for years, belongs to the BMFA etc so there is a much lower risk of there been a accident or a fly away etc. The second person is just a normal person who bought their DJI style craft from amazon and likes to fly it around have a look at things. This don't of person is the one that have more accidents, flying in the wrong places, having flyaways and not knowing what to do. They have a much greater risk and often they are the people who end up making the news and giving everyone else a bad reputation and these sort of rules from the CAA.
The CAA need to write to us all or publish an equivalent of the Highway Code. I don’t have an hour to listen o all this, make notes and then have it all change.
I dont fly drones! I fly quad copters and hectocopters. The only people who fly drones are the military. The desk workers have demonised your hobby because they don't like you enjoying your life. I will continue to enjoy my life.
Having now read part of the document, I notice that the only thing this 50 to 100g limit - if it came in - would exclude is the flyer ID requirement, everything else seems to be the same. The video slightly gave the impression that below that would be regulation free, or virtually so, but maybe I misinterpreted it.
Not gone through the entire thing, but it's interesting they are using reports from the public to justify things like remote ID, not reports that were followed up and found to be illegal.. It's like Karen standing on a motorway bridge counting cars she thinks are going a bit quick and basing numbers of cars speeding on that..
Plus the 18k reports is nothing compared to the actual number of flight that take place, our club alone has a core group of about 40 who fly, multiple times a week, multiple times a day, most are retired so are out 3-5 days a week, quick back of fag packet calculations puts the number of flights conducted y our club for the year at over 100k, and that’s just one club, there are thousands of clubs throughout the country, and that doesn’t even begin to count in such things as auditors and average Joe who buys a mavic mini from Argos and takes it to the local lakes for a few flights a month.
@@Geeksvanaindeed. They even used the terms “perceived to be safer” with the implication that that perception is false. well unless there are verifiable stats that state one cannot say if they are also more dangerous than the perception. And besides, what’s the measure and what’s the threshold.
@@nxsynjs this is unfortunately how things are done nowadays, I work in education and honestly, I think that John Connor meme is about right, “we’re not going to make it” because of some of the things that are happening now, idiocracy was supposed to be a comedy film, not a futuristic documentary.
Another very good video Sean and Graham. Trying to be as understanding of the CAA’s challenges here, and as open minded as possible, it’s the remote ID matter which is of most concern for me. It’ll be good to hear your future deep dive discussion. However, the CAA document you read here seems to struggle to justify pilot location, a bit of straw clutching, by using those stats. Surely the other safety outlined proposals in the document will considerably reduce the nuisance stats. And how would individuals achieve network data status? 🤔
How will sub 250g FPV drones be able to have remote ID fitted? 1. Adding remote I.D. might take the drone over 250g 2. There’s no space on my sub 250g FPV drones to mount an extra PCB board for remote I.D. Plus some of them couldn’t take off with the extra added weight, Also all my transmitter remotes (that includes all of them) do not have the ability to broadcast where the pilot is standing??? Do we now have to replace all our gear? I do get the feeling these regulations are aimed at the general public who fly pre made plastic camera drones with GPS rather than consider the needs and requirements of the FPV community??.. I also don’t get why sub 250g have now been singled out for remote I.D. I thought this weight class wasn’t a threat to aviation at all, and not a big threat to those on the ground, is this about safety or purely about policing the masses, if it’s the latter the C.A.A. Should not put the proposal forward….. Also why aren’t free flight models mentioned here? They can be quite heavy well over 250g and can fly out of sight (sometimes happens) Why aren’t these included? More dangerous to aviation than a sub 250g drone you’d think?🤔 Another point of remote I.D. With the CAA’s so called thousands of reported concerns from the public thinking a drone should be where they are, (not proven at all!!!) if they are going to police this through remote I.D. Some department somewhere is going to me mighty busy cross checking all this data to find they are flying quite legally , as most the public who don’t fly drones think it’s not legal to fly anywhere, just check out the audit channels to see how clueless the public generally are? A lot of false reporting I fear! (I’m not much of what these audit channels get up to BTW)…🤔🤔🤔 Oh the comment about cars and knives not having remote I.D.? Legislation has already been passed to fit in all new cars a black box with network capability , they already have the ability to switch the car off when it’s being driven by the authorities or limit its top speed if you’ve been naughty and your car when the system is enabled be able to report you for speeding, don’t believe me, Google black boxes are to be fitted in all cars. It’s all about controlling the masses!.. Thinking about it they could prove already you were speeding by mobile phone data…oh well. ! 😵😵😵😵😩💩 I’ve said this before, regulate knitting needles as these have been documented as murder weapons, many have been killed by knitting needles but no one has been killed by recreational use of a drone!!..🤔🙄🫣🤪🤪
It’s all horseshit, we should just say no and refuse to comply like the Dutch did over their farming laws, that changed the entire political landscape and country over there in just a few months. I will not be putting remote ID on my Mobula 6/7/8, these people are so out of touch.
5.3, I'd like to see how 'reports of drone flights involving a legal, nuisance, criminal or safety concern' are verified as being an issue. The Police admitted a while ago calling 121 to log a legal flight isn't separated from such data!
Great update! Any revision proposed back to 500m VLOS as orientation if challenged is difficult to prove. I also note that they are referring to 249gsm and below and no longer 250gsm?
These regulations are ridiculous. What next? Regulation of footballs - if you kick one you might hit something!! Too risky!!!FIFA could never allow that could they!!!
@@tonywoodford9164 maybe we should take the Dutch approach, if you don’t know earlier this year the Dutch Government mandated compulsory purchases of 3000 farms to close them down and a, iirc, 70% reduction in nitrogen use for the few that were left, this would have effectively killed the farming industry overnight to meet some arbitrary, unrealistic net zero target. The Dutch said no, blockaded the capital and refused to comply with the tyranny. Yesterday, according to our media, a “extreme far right” man won the elections and his first act was to reverse all the restrictive legislation that had been introduced to kill the farming industry. In reality the guy who won the election was a centralist. Same as in Argentina, you can only push people so far before they snap back no. Maybe we should all just not comply, the prisons are already full, so they can’t lock us up. If we all refuse to comply instead of rolling over and saying “we’ll I guess we will have to do what they say” they might back off a bit. When Grayling was in charge of the DFT and pushed through these new regulations, as spite because he’d lost his fight to get the local flying club on Epsom Downs closed down, their biggest concern was nobody would comply and the rules would be unenforceable, they only got away with what they did because the BMFA followed over and threw their members under the bus, had they stood their ground and continued to say “we wil not force our members to register” then we probably wouldn’t be sitting here today talking about this.
@@tonywoodford9164 So, it’s ok for the gov to impede on us for the few idiots? If your just going to accept it, you would be happy to live in a nazi germany type country?
@@PBob-le4qc fortunately I don't need to do anything you say because free country. However rules are made to fix problems and risks. Don't create problems and risks and legislation isn't made
@@testpilotian3188 I'm not sure who your talking to but you sound a little unhinged! Bit ranty . Literally no sence logic or science or legal statement of fact.
The CAA regulations don’t stop pilots with a PPL doing charter work or the criminal use of drones including flying within an ATC zone so any more regulations will be ignored.
I think that RID will allow the authorities to develop an algorithm which flags up in real time every drone which is flying more than 500m from its home point. Scary stuff. What next - will DJI have to stop selling recreational drones with a claimed 12-mile range? Or will the software treat everything beyond 500m as a NFZ?
The chart columns A2 (near) in 6.7 do not make sense... surely the A2 249g should just be a tick and the 250-499 should be a tick + a.. if you can fly over people with a 499g drone with A2 CofC (A1 column), you should not have to keep 50mts from them with the same weight as the A1 column (as stated in A2 column with tick +b)? or am I misreading it???
What about the Hover Air X1 and future similar drones? Automatic modes are centred on the the user so effectively a flying selfie cam. Safety considerations must be totally different and being able to control a drone seems irrelevent if the user has no control. A future 125 gram drone which has collision avoidance and only automatic modes would seem less dangerous than a child's tricycle.
After watching lots of videos on You Tube about the new rules and guidance… and I am still not convinced about my options. I am interested in purchasing a drone for travelling with. I am not really interested in flying in built up areas as in A1 and A2 categories. My original plan was to buy an Air 2s, which I thought would suit my requirements flying in A3 category. Do you think that buying an Air 2s is high risk purchase ?… will I be allowed to keep flying the Air 2s in the A3 “far away from people” category in the future. I am more interested in owning a drone that can deliver the fantastic footage of the Air2s than having a drone that can fly near to people, I am just wary of purchasing a drone that I cannot fly at all. Any comments and advice would be appreciated very much.
Sorry I am confused, did you say that from January 2028 an Air3 bought in 2023 with a C1 label will be classified as a legacy drone and will therefore not be able to fly? Meanwhile a Mini 4 pro bought in 2023 will be able to be flown? Surely a C1 label becomes a UK1 label and is no longer legacy?
There will be a cross over period according to the proposal but eventually it will be only UK1 label. Of course that will be 2028, which is a long time in drone tech terms.
@@Geeksvana thanks, 4 years for a drone then to be worthless is not that long. I was away to buy an Air 3 for Christmas, now that’s put me off buying it. Why will the sub 250g be treated differently?
Objective = GET ALL DRONES OUT THE AIR. It won't matter what people say to any of these questions the point is to give you the impression that we are in control, Truth is, we the people DONT HAVE ANY CONTROL we are being controlled, This is the start of being regulated out of the sky
Ever since Ukraine, everyone now can sadly see what it's possible to do with a drone. They are now being treated as weapons platforms, which does make sense. There are stupid people out there. You don't need to drop ordnance to hurt someone, as most things hurt if dropped from height. Sad, but true and fully understandable why gov is trying control this.
You keep refering to legacy drones AND C class, yet you skipped over all the class information for C class. If they are aligning with EUASA then C marked drones (regardless of UK marking or not) be classed as legacy, they are class marked and in line with the EUASA markings, therefore would still be in line with UK. You mentioned the Air 3. this is the only C1 classified drone at present and that is why it falls in the A1 category if I'm not incorrect.
Too frequently, people use excellent, absolute, and straightforward to describe contentious issues. The UK [politicians] are notorious for steamrolling regulations restricting everything "for everyone's good." Every additional requirement, no matter how small they seem, is a tactic to make sweeping changes.
@@MrJohnnyseven creating a safe framework...what because of all the critical accidents we have had in the last 10 years relating to any off the shelf drones?
Did you know there are regulations for flying a kite? There are regulations for kite flying in many countries. Here are some general rules that are commonly found: Height Restrictions: A kite should not be flown at a height of more than 60 metres above ground level1. In some cases, there are additional rules regarding visibility of kites during the day and night where permission has been granted to exceed 60 metres1. Aerodrome Traffic Zone: A kite should not be flown at a height of more than 30 metres above ground level within the aerodrome traffic zone of a notified aerodrome during the notified operating hours of that aerodrome1. Weather Conditions: Never fly kites in wet or stormy weather. Static electricity can build up and be conducted down the line1. Kite Line: Never use wire or anything metallic in the line. Always keep your line dry1. Safety Precautions: Never fly kites over other people’s heads or in an area where someone else could be injured from an out-of-control kite1. Power Lines: Keep away from overhead power lines, transmission towers, telephone lines and aerials1. Airports: Do not fly within 5 miles of any airport’s boundaries2. Please note that these are general guidelines and the specific rules can vary by country. It’s always a good idea to check the local regulations when planning to fly a kite.
I've only listened to 45 minutes so far, and it is interesting, and as bad as I expected. You picked up on a bloke saying he would refuse to put remote ID on his 75g Mobula FPV quad. You said he was wrong because (a) it's under 100g and (b) doesn't have a complex camera. Well, not so sure about that: 1. There is no 100g exclusion yet. It may not come in at all, or it might be 50g. 2. What's a complex camera, maybe there is a definition somewhere, but I've not seen it yet? FPV quads have cameras by definition. I think the rule at the moment states approximately that a camera used exclusively for flying or monitoring the flight can be ignored. But all FPV goggles and virtually all monitors can record the video, so who is to say what it might be used for? Would you want to argue that with the police officer that turns up while you are flying? In addition, those cameras can be pretty good digital quality these days, using HDZero etc, makes it even harder to argue away. So, I think to just say, "don't worry, you aren't affected" is being optimistic. Potentially, I think he is affected. Unless you are aware of ways that he has a solid get out?
Yes and you are right to pull me up on this. It has been on my mind and I have sent specific questions to the CAA around the topic. I am aware of more information which will indeed give a get out for this type of quad, I will explain more fully in the next live show tomorrow. Overall, we need a definitive guide of how FPV will fit into this new world of rules. We simply don't have enough detail. Which is a concern in itself.
@@Geeksvanaactually, having read the doc now, it appears the only thing that is proposed a 50 or 100g limit would do is remove the need for a flyer ID, that is all it says anyway. Everything else, including therefore remote ID I assume, would stay the same.
Good live show, thanks Sean. I can live with most of it but RID is a recipe for disaster. The Karens are violent these days, you only need look at the road rage incidents which were not a thing when i grew up. Now it's a daily occurrence. Also, this idea they have that a sub 250g drone without a camera is perfectly safe but another sub 250g drone with a camera is a deadly weapon is just bizarre. The UK1/2/3 idea is nonsense and i suspect more about CAA ego than anything else. Given DJI drones were being sold in the EU with a C1 sticker whilst the exact same drone in the UK was being sold without the availability of that sticker, i doubt we will buy drones with both stickers attached, making the drones we buy in the UK being unusable in Europe.
Well of course they don't, we don't have Remote ID in this country yet but if you're so naive to believe that they won't find out once this is in place, good luck to you.
I fly a completely home built 4kg quad, with 15kg lift capability- As a hobby and for estate tree management (on private land). I use home built/designed radio gear and 'vintage' radio because the old bands are now empty - no interference. I have the capability of full spectrum spread spectrum (same as mil), so completely jam proof. That was my aim, as I was also asked to design for an international customer. I have always believed that 250g plus category should have transponders, which CAA can track when over 150ft AGL. The squawk tech can now be completely minimised to the size of a matchbox using an ASIC and a few additional components. Power draw is minimal, as is the weight penalty. The biggest problem is receiving the 'ping' from the airport controller transmitters, especially when in a valley, in the radio shadow. Each transponder could very easily be coded with a sim card, uniquely registered to individuals or organisations. I used to fly glow fuel balsa aircraft, and making a super heavy lift quad using '60 size engines is my next build project this winter. 1h flight times. Think Avatar movie. Our local farmer is interested for monitoring stock and supply feed to stranded sheep!
I never fly my 125g selfie stick where anyone can see me. It’s in very remote places while on holiday and at times when there is no one around. I take a picture and flies back to me in seconds dropping into my hand. It’s packed away in a little box that fits in my pocket and I go on my way. I use it so infrequently that for me the regulations will be pointless. The FCA has more chance of regulating me having a piddle in a bush. It seems that the best that the FCA has is to rely on Karen or Kevin to complain to a manager! I doubt that they would even hear or notice me flying given the background noise of nature and my love of seclusion and privacy. If I wanted to take a pic near people (which I don’t, no offence intended, but because I can’t stand people), I’d use my non flying selfie stick instead. As for remote ID. Well they have no hope, that’s just silly. I doubt that a drone so small would have the power or the range for it to be of benefit to any receiver further than 1 km for much more than a few minutes.
I'm afraid with all the rules changes year after year, more and more pilots are going to just fly as they see fit. The over regulation of this hobby is going to ruin it in the near future. I fear for the hobby that is so unique.
A drone pilot friend of mine told me that he witnessed his 8 year old son and friends making paper airplanes and he quickly went up to them and explained that that behavier would no longer be allowed in his household because he wasn't sure about what new government regulations were being fabricated to punish all of them for such atrocious behavier..........
Vastly overpaid quango can go back to the discounted smoking-bar and celebrate stamping on your chips. ID is a joke, it wouldn't stop anyone making one for nefarious purposes anonymously anyhow.
Well, listened to it all now. That was interesting - in an appalling way. However I appreciate your efforts in putting it out there. Please do not take anything I say as ‘shooting the messenger‘. I also haven't actually read the document yet, so there may be misconceptions. 1. Absolutely nothing about home build? (That's me - home build FPV race / freestyle, sub 250). 2. Remote ID. Well done CAA. They've picked all the worse aspects of the US system, and that is bad enough. At least they kept it out of sub 250 recreational flights. But no, it's on everything with a camera which means all FPV as far as I can see. OK, I know the rules on cameras for flying and monitoring but they were never black and white enough to give me confidence (we can all record). Complex camera? What is that? Even if it was as simple as 4K cameras, what happens when FPV goes 4K? Progress is continuous. In fact, I think the difference should not be camera or no camera but the type of flying assistance. A camera drone can basically fly automatically, whereas an FPV drone will not, it needs considerable skill to keep it aloft, therefore an unskilled operator with little experience can fly a camera drone, but not an FPV drone, so the risks are different. Hybrid, stopping takeoff? How does that work on home build? Doesn't matter really, I will never, ever, fit it to anything - too much mass, too much size, too much inconvenience, too much cost, and absolutely on principle. 3. Geofencing. How does that work on home build? Anyway, if I drive my car somewhere it shouldn't go, I risk prosecution - but it doesn't just stop dead at the boundary. Of course drones are so much more dangerous than cars. 4. 50 or 100g exclusion? Better than nothing, but I bet if it comes in it'll be 50. Most whoops (75 and 65mm) you buy are well under 50. However it is nowhere near enough for us race / freestyle FPVers. The absolute minimum should be 250, preferably much higher. 5. FRIAs, don't need registration, no remote ID. Oh good, I declare the whole of the UK to be a FRIA. 6. Sub 250 flyer ID. Waste of time, I'd say. People are either interested in being safe, sensible and considering others, or they aren't. If not, they'll treat it like a chore and instantly forget it. 7. 18,000 complaints? Doesn't surprise me, I know the way the public around here reacts to ‘drones’. (“You fly drones? You mean those dangerous nuisances that spy on people, cause damage and injuries, and bring down aircraft - they should be banned, hanging’s not good enough for them. Not you of course, I trust you - just everyone else”). What matters is the trend and number of upheld complaints. 8. No mention of any concept of shielded operations. 9. No mention of any relaxation in the spotter for FPV rule. Those are the main points that affect me as I see them now. What a disaster, even Alastair Campbell couldn't put a good spin on that. The thing is, you can look at the details and say, that's bad, that's not so bad, we can discuss this, but if you stand back and take the 20,000 foot view, the CAA are killing this hobby, slowly and steadily. It's not a blanket ban, it just drains the fun out of it all so people are squeezed into a tiny corner and give up. There will be three groups of FPV flyers from this: those that say “sod it, I'm carrying on as before and to hell with them”, those that decide it's not worth the candle and give up, and the few who try to adhere to everything. I'm in the middle group. It's what happens when you put a hobby in the hands of bureaucrats who regulate commercial flying. They should never have got their hands on it, but it's too late now. And as your co-presenter said, it starts with the politicians, and there's votes in it. It's the remote ID that kills it for me. I will never fit it, as above, on principle as much as anything. If I do not feel the rules 100% exclude my craft from the need for it with no shadow of doubt - and I doubt they will - that'll be me done. Well, better read the full document. Will I respond? Don't know actually. I religiously have up to now, but I know - and I'm sure you do too really - that it's a waste of time. They consult partly because they have too and partly because they can make minor concessions to prove they listened, but nothing significant changes. Renaming A1, 2 and 3. Fantastic, glad they did that. Talk about fiddling while Rome burns. Ah well, it was nice while it lasted. Good and useful video though, thanks.
Its fools like auditors and flying near airports that has thinks F$@ up.I have my drone licence as a EU member state here in Ireland, and I will be flying my drone around the countryside no matter what the law is as the law is common sense what judge will convict a person flying a drone around the sea cliffs of mountains.The people of this world are losing there power of freedom bring back Willam Wallace 🤣
Within 2 years you wont be able to even buy a drone until you've passed a test which includes, - Juggling 5 working chainsaws while riding a unicycle up a flight of 100 stairs wearing a diving helmet and reciting the whole of war and peace.
The uk governments drive to have all drone pilots who own a drone to just give them all their money as that is what this boils down to money. If they legislate enuff they think ppl will drop it they wont what they will do is fall into non compliance like i have and take my self my drone and my hobby underground now they get crap all from me nothing
As I said in the stream, this is horse manure. You said a Mobula8 won’t be required to have remote ID because it doesn’t have a “complex camera”, yet they do, the top of the range ones have DJI O3 4k cameras on and I have several sitting on the desk in front of me ready for flying tomorrow that have various cameras on that are all capable of recording 1080P up to 4K footage onboard, these range from 24grams upwards to about 75 grams AUW. They clearly have no idea about some parts of the hobby despite being told multiple times by multiple people at their so called “workshops”.
They need to stop trying to regulate all the different disciplines under the same umbrella, nobody will ever be getting their weekly shop delivered by drone anyway so most of these regulations are for something that will never happen. Me flying my 75gram Mobula8 around my garden or even a 5” round a field is not in the remotest bit the same as a surveyor doing a roof or bridge inspection, heck my Moblua8 isn’t even heavy enough to put a dent into the side of a van - don’t ask how I know - but is being treated the same as a 5kg Matrice in the regulations.
As a committee member of a club, I can tell you what these regulations will help achieve, and that’s the end of the hobby, people that have been flying for decades have stopped and left the club already and that’s with Article 16, more regulations will just make matters worse.
There should be three regulations for hobbyists. 1) don’t fly in no fly zones. 2) have insurance. 3) don’t be a dick (I.e. don’t put people in danger or distress). Leave the phone book thick regulations for commercial operations.
Yes those types would certainly be included. The types they intend to exclude are the tiny whoop starter kits etc. Anything more complex would get caught up unless using the Article 16 exemption.
@@Geeksvana there’s no such thing as a starter kit, whoops by their very nature have cameras on ranging from 480p analogue up to 1080p digital, how on earth are they going to justify that one has to have remote ID but the other doesn’t? They’re clueless when it comes to this side of the hobby.
I’ll put remote ID on my Tinywhoop when the 50+ private planes that fly over my house coming out of the local aerodrome daily do the same.
The Government are ensuring there are no cameras watching those getting up to mischief...
I've come to the conclusion that having today renewed my flyer and operator id that im on a 5 year countdown to ditching the hobby. My mini 2 will be 10 years old by then and if still going strong might be of use to someone but for the handful of times i fly every year, by then its going to be over regulated with too many changes to keep pace with. I want to enjoy flying in retirement not be glued to web pages looking for the most recent changes to legislation. Thanks for your time and info Sean 👍 without your channel id have lost track with everything years ago.
A bit like driving a car...
24:00 is an ISO standard. (Designed to denote the end of a day, not the beginning of a day) so used correctly in this doc :)
“As of ISO 8601-1:2019/Amd 1:2022, “00:00:00” may be used to refer to midnight corresponding to the instant at the beginning of a calendar day; and “24:00:00” to refer to midnight corresponding to the instant at the end of a calendar day.”
To me this does not feel like a "simplification" of rules/regs at all, but more of a "blanketing of all drone operations" (encompassing a whole heap more of the recreational side of things). And, who are the 'stakeholders'? I would have thought that anyone that flies a drone (in this case) is a 'stakeholder'. I really, really struggle to see positives in any of this Sean... What's happening here is just "more rules" to deal with, not less. I don't know if this stuff will ultimately see the end of the drone hobby, but I have a horrible feeling that it will. Thanks for diving into it and making me depressed again :) Cheers!
No the stake holders are the Police and MOD for sure. Idiots over flying bases Police stations and other secret facilities.
Wow even just skimming through this, FPV and self build is dead, I'm gonna have to give thought to wether to sell up as it doesn't look like I'll be able to fly legally anymore.
As I fed back to the CAA in the last consultation (that they obviously ignored) they seem unable or unwilling to accept that there are other drones apart from DJI.
I have took the flyer id and also the other one on line ,its so easy to understand it ,,,the cost is just 10.30 pence not much for one year
Gender change the drone to a dingy so it`s legal to travel.
Please can these videos start with a four par intro summarising what the changes are. Need to get to the meat really early, IMO.
We have two five minute highlights coming tomorrow.
Additionally, post 2028 there is zero incentive to learn and train more as there is no benefit in doing so. If one of the aims of the CAA is to increase and improve UAS knowledge this directly goes against it.
MY God , what now. Im getting sick and tired of this. Makes me want to sell every thing up.
more changes and confusion. my god how is anybody supposed to keep track of all this?
Gah, does the CAA know what a drone is. Like many other countries they don't understand the differences in remote controlled aircraft like a Discus Launched Glider is in their eyes the same as a DJI inspire which is the same as a scale EDF F-16 jet. What the CAA needs to do is separate the types of craft and the types of users. A person flying a RC Aircraft like a Cub is much likely to have a lower risk than a person who bought a DJI style RC aircraft. The first person has been flying and building RC aircraft for years, belongs to the BMFA etc so there is a much lower risk of there been a accident or a fly away etc. The second person is just a normal person who bought their DJI style craft from amazon and likes to fly it around have a look at things. This don't of person is the one that have more accidents, flying in the wrong places, having flyaways and not knowing what to do. They have a much greater risk and often they are the people who end up making the news and giving everyone else a bad reputation and these sort of rules from the CAA.
The CAA need to write to us all or publish an equivalent of the Highway Code. I don’t have an hour to listen o all this, make notes and then have it all change.
Well said. You have just given me back faith in your channel. And I will be resubscribing.
I dont fly drones! I fly quad copters and hectocopters. The only people who fly drones are the military. The desk workers have demonised your hobby because they don't like you enjoying your life.
I will continue to enjoy my life.
Having now read part of the document, I notice that the only thing this 50 to 100g limit - if it came in - would exclude is the flyer ID requirement, everything else seems to be the same. The video slightly gave the impression that below that would be regulation free, or virtually so, but maybe I misinterpreted it.
Not gone through the entire thing, but it's interesting they are using reports from the public to justify things like remote ID, not reports that were followed up and found to be illegal.. It's like Karen standing on a motorway bridge counting cars she thinks are going a bit quick and basing numbers of cars speeding on that..
Yes it is clutching at straws. Aviation should be based on facts and incidents etc.
Plus the 18k reports is nothing compared to the actual number of flight that take place, our club alone has a core group of about 40 who fly, multiple times a week, multiple times a day, most are retired so are out 3-5 days a week, quick back of fag packet calculations puts the number of flights conducted y our club for the year at over 100k, and that’s just one club, there are thousands of clubs throughout the country, and that doesn’t even begin to count in such things as auditors and average Joe who buys a mavic mini from Argos and takes it to the local lakes for a few flights a month.
@@Geeksvanaindeed. They even used the terms “perceived to be safer” with the implication that that perception is false. well unless there are verifiable stats that state one cannot say if they are also more dangerous than the perception. And besides, what’s the measure and what’s the threshold.
@@nxsynjs this is unfortunately how things are done nowadays, I work in education and honestly, I think that John Connor meme is about right, “we’re not going to make it” because of some of the things that are happening now, idiocracy was supposed to be a comedy film, not a futuristic documentary.
Another very good video Sean and Graham. Trying to be as understanding of the CAA’s challenges here, and as open minded as possible, it’s the remote ID matter which is of most concern for me. It’ll be good to hear your future deep dive discussion. However, the CAA document you read here seems to struggle to justify pilot location, a bit of straw clutching, by using those stats. Surely the other safety outlined proposals in the document will considerably reduce the nuisance stats. And how would individuals achieve network data status? 🤔
when will the remote-id become mandatory ?
@@AERIALSPIRE184 I believe the exact date is still unknown but it’ll be between Jan 2024 and 26.
Over near and far ... Is better. Easyer to remember and understand
Sorry,lost interest after 5 minutes of nothing but waffle
yeah ive got the mavic pro and hope it won’t change
How will sub 250g FPV drones be able to have remote ID fitted?
1. Adding remote I.D. might take the drone over 250g
2. There’s no space on my sub 250g FPV drones to mount an extra PCB board for remote I.D. Plus some of them couldn’t take off with the extra added weight,
Also all my transmitter remotes (that includes all of them) do not have the ability to broadcast where the pilot is standing???
Do we now have to replace all our gear?
I do get the feeling these regulations are aimed at the general public who fly pre made plastic camera drones with GPS rather than consider the needs and requirements of the FPV community??..
I also don’t get why sub 250g have now been singled out for remote I.D. I thought this weight class wasn’t a threat to aviation at all, and not a big threat to those on the ground, is this about safety or purely about policing the masses, if it’s the latter the C.A.A. Should not put the proposal forward…..
Also why aren’t free flight models mentioned here? They can be quite heavy well over 250g and can fly out of sight (sometimes happens)
Why aren’t these included? More dangerous to aviation than a sub 250g drone you’d think?🤔
Another point of remote I.D. With the CAA’s so called thousands of reported concerns from the public thinking a drone should be where they are, (not proven at all!!!)
if they are going to police this through remote I.D. Some department somewhere is going to me mighty busy cross checking all this data to find they are flying quite legally ,
as most the public who don’t fly drones think it’s not legal to fly anywhere, just check out the audit channels to see how clueless the public generally are?
A lot of false reporting I fear!
(I’m not much of what these audit channels get up to BTW)…🤔🤔🤔
Oh the comment about cars and knives not having remote I.D.?
Legislation has already been passed to fit in all new cars a black box with network capability , they already have the ability to switch the car off when it’s being driven by the authorities or limit its top speed if you’ve been naughty and your car when the system is enabled be able to report you for speeding, don’t believe me, Google black boxes are to be fitted in all cars.
It’s all about controlling the masses!..
Thinking about it they could prove already you were speeding by mobile phone data…oh well. ! 😵😵😵😵😩💩
I’ve said this before, regulate knitting needles as these have been documented as murder weapons, many have been killed by knitting needles but no one has been killed by recreational use of a drone!!..🤔🙄🫣🤪🤪
It’s all horseshit, we should just say no and refuse to comply like the Dutch did over their farming laws, that changed the entire political landscape and country over there in just a few months. I will not be putting remote ID on my Mobula 6/7/8, these people are so out of touch.
5.3, I'd like to see how 'reports of drone flights involving a legal, nuisance, criminal or safety concern' are verified as being an issue. The Police admitted a while ago calling 121 to log a legal flight isn't separated from such data!
Great briefing. Thanks very much.
I will be fly drone on water on Norfolk broads by boat is that ok on river
Great update! Any revision proposed back to 500m VLOS as orientation if challenged is difficult to prove. I also note that they are referring to 249gsm and below and no longer 250gsm?
These regulations are ridiculous. What next? Regulation of footballs - if you kick one you might hit something!! Too risky!!!FIFA could never allow that could they!!!
i predicted a year ago that they would clamp down on drones and people said i was mad ! well this is the start
Hi Sean
For those that might not know. What will pilots have to do to enable remote ID ?
I am an infrequent flyer, in the A1 category, for fun and if lucky I get some reasonable footage. I fly a DJI M3 Pro, which as you know is
All laws are written based on few idiots. I'm also unhappy about flyer I'd on my m3p but accept it has to happen to many people flouting rules
@@tonywoodford9164 maybe we should take the Dutch approach, if you don’t know earlier this year the Dutch Government mandated compulsory purchases of 3000 farms to close them down and a, iirc, 70% reduction in nitrogen use for the few that were left, this would have effectively killed the farming industry overnight to meet some arbitrary, unrealistic net zero target. The Dutch said no, blockaded the capital and refused to comply with the tyranny. Yesterday, according to our media, a “extreme far right” man won the elections and his first act was to reverse all the restrictive legislation that had been introduced to kill the farming industry. In reality the guy who won the election was a centralist. Same as in Argentina, you can only push people so far before they snap back no.
Maybe we should all just not comply, the prisons are already full, so they can’t lock us up. If we all refuse to comply instead of rolling over and saying “we’ll I guess we will have to do what they say” they might back off a bit. When Grayling was in charge of the DFT and pushed through these new regulations, as spite because he’d lost his fight to get the local flying club on Epsom Downs closed down, their biggest concern was nobody would comply and the rules would be unenforceable, they only got away with what they did because the BMFA followed over and threw their members under the bus, had they stood their ground and continued to say “we wil not force our members to register” then we probably wouldn’t be sitting here today talking about this.
@@tonywoodford9164 So, it’s ok for the gov to impede on us for the few idiots?
If your just going to accept it, you would be happy to live in a nazi germany type country?
@@PBob-le4qc fortunately I don't need to do anything you say because free country. However rules are made to fix problems and risks. Don't create problems and risks and legislation isn't made
@@testpilotian3188 I'm not sure who your talking to but you sound a little unhinged! Bit ranty . Literally no sence logic or science or legal statement of fact.
The CAA regulations don’t stop pilots with a PPL doing charter work or the criminal use of drones including flying within an ATC zone so any more regulations will be ignored.
I think that RID will allow the authorities to develop an algorithm which flags up in real time every drone which is flying more than 500m from its home point. Scary stuff. What next - will DJI have to stop selling recreational drones with a claimed 12-mile range? Or will the software treat everything beyond 500m as a NFZ?
The chart columns A2 (near) in 6.7 do not make sense... surely the A2 249g should just be a tick and the 250-499 should be a tick + a.. if you can fly over people with a 499g drone with A2 CofC (A1 column), you should not have to keep 50mts from them with the same weight as the A1 column (as stated in A2 column with tick +b)? or am I misreading it???
What about the Hover Air X1 and future similar drones? Automatic modes are centred on the the user so effectively a flying selfie cam. Safety considerations must be totally different and being able to control a drone seems irrelevent if the user has no control. A future 125 gram drone which has collision avoidance and only automatic modes would seem less dangerous than a child's tricycle.
The avata I bought a week ago is about to become a paper weight. The mavic 3 pro I got 3 weeks ago... Well 😬
After watching lots of videos on You Tube about the new rules and guidance… and I am still not convinced about my options.
I am interested in purchasing a drone for travelling with. I am not really interested in flying in built up areas as in A1 and A2 categories. My original plan was to buy an Air 2s, which I thought would suit my requirements flying in A3 category.
Do you think that buying an Air 2s is high risk purchase ?… will I be allowed to keep flying the Air 2s in the A3 “far away from people” category in the future.
I am more interested in owning a drone that can deliver the fantastic footage of the Air2s than having a drone that can fly near to people, I am just wary of purchasing a drone that I cannot fly at all.
Any comments and advice would be appreciated very much.
Does this mean that we won't be able to take off from our own garden and hover above our own house?
Yes. Suggest we all just say no, won’t be complying with your out of touch rules anymore.
i couldnt care less anyway my drones are 5kilo plus they can suck it tbh
just passed my opewrator n flier id
I am curious how many fines have been issued in total since the regs came in?
Sorry I am confused, did you say that from January 2028 an Air3 bought in 2023 with a C1 label will be classified as a legacy drone and will therefore not be able to fly? Meanwhile a Mini 4 pro bought in 2023 will be able to be flown? Surely a C1 label becomes a UK1 label and is no longer legacy?
There will be a cross over period according to the proposal but eventually it will be only UK1 label. Of course that will be 2028, which is a long time in drone tech terms.
@@GeeksvanaSo does this mean people won't be able to bring drones from Europe and fly after 2028? Seems a little silly.
@@Geeksvana thanks, 4 years for a drone then to be worthless is not that long. I was away to buy an Air 3 for Christmas, now that’s put me off buying it. Why will the sub 250g be treated differently?
So can a phantom 4 still be flown ????????
Does this mean that older drones that do not have digital documentation will become unusable and will have to be scrapped ?
Does the same apply to mini 2 se 2.7k camera
What's the point in laws when you have a two tier policing.
Objective = GET ALL DRONES OUT THE AIR. It won't matter what people say to any of these questions the point is to give you the impression that we are in control, Truth is, we the people DONT HAVE ANY CONTROL we are being controlled, This is the start of being regulated out of the sky
Like little sheep all drone users just follow along and stop flying lol
You scare ya selves it’s pathetic watching
Ever since Ukraine, everyone now can sadly see what it's possible to do with a drone. They are now being treated as weapons platforms, which does make sense.
There are stupid people out there.
You don't need to drop ordnance to hurt someone, as most things hurt if dropped from height. Sad, but true and fully understandable why gov is trying control this.
You keep refering to legacy drones AND C class, yet you skipped over all the class information for C class. If they are aligning with EUASA then C marked drones (regardless of UK marking or not) be classed as legacy, they are class marked and in line with the EUASA markings, therefore would still be in line with UK. You mentioned the Air 3. this is the only C1 classified drone at present and that is why it falls in the A1 category if I'm not incorrect.
Stream never worked at all, just a blank spinning screen & it’s not my network 🤷🏼♂️
Oh strange! We didn't get any other complaints about it not working. Not helpful! Does the replay work for you?
@@Geeksvana Works ok now, strange RUclips glitch fixed itself after I switched my channel over then back again. Now I can catch up on what’s new 👍🏻
Too frequently, people use excellent, absolute, and straightforward to describe contentious issues. The UK [politicians] are notorious for steamrolling regulations restricting everything "for everyone's good." Every additional requirement, no matter how small they seem, is a tactic to make sweeping changes.
Do you currently need an operator ID for flying a drone under 250g?
If that drone has a camera, so DJI Mini drones or Autel Nanos etc, then yes. Just an Operator ID displayed on the drone.
@@Geeksvana I’ve just the DJI mini 4 pro, where would I get the operator ID to display it on my drone?
@amacmedia3221 www.register-drones.caa.co.uk
This is the official CAA site for the registration process. Let me know if you need anything else.
@@Geeksvana thank you 🙏🏻
Hi Sean,Graham, sorry to be a bit lost but can I or not fly my phantom 4.? If so what hops do I need to go through to stay Legal? 😢
Ignore "legal"...
Just use common sense, this is getting out of control now and we need to start pushing back and saying no.
Remote id can just piss off...it is nonsense.
Yup "law abiding citizens" being squeezed out by new "laws".… But hey "it's all for your own good and safety"...yeah right
@@MrJohnnyseven creating a safe framework...what because of all the critical accidents we have had in the last 10 years relating to any off the shelf drones?
@@Guide504 bingo.
51.19 minutes - sums up a worrying amount of CAA documentation for quite some time 🙈
Did you know there are regulations for flying a kite?
There are regulations for kite flying in many countries. Here are some general rules that are commonly found:
Height Restrictions: A kite should not be flown at a height of more than 60 metres above ground level1. In some cases, there are additional rules regarding visibility of kites during the day and night where permission has been granted to exceed 60 metres1.
Aerodrome Traffic Zone: A kite should not be flown at a height of more than 30 metres above ground level within the aerodrome traffic zone of a notified aerodrome during the notified operating hours of that aerodrome1.
Weather Conditions: Never fly kites in wet or stormy weather. Static electricity can build up and be conducted down the line1.
Kite Line: Never use wire or anything metallic in the line. Always keep your line dry1.
Safety Precautions: Never fly kites over other people’s heads or in an area where someone else could be injured from an out-of-control kite1.
Power Lines: Keep away from overhead power lines, transmission towers, telephone lines and aerials1.
Airports: Do not fly within 5 miles of any airport’s boundaries2.
Please note that these are general guidelines and the specific rules can vary by country. It’s always a good idea to check the local regulations when planning to fly a kite.
great news
Far to much regulation,Government interference, has now killed off quad flying.
Quite simply the CAA/Gov want to trim down the number of amateur drone users significantly.. only the hard core will be left and the pros
I've only listened to 45 minutes so far, and it is interesting, and as bad as I expected.
You picked up on a bloke saying he would refuse to put remote ID on his 75g Mobula FPV quad. You said he was wrong because (a) it's under 100g and (b) doesn't have a complex camera. Well, not so sure about that:
1. There is no 100g exclusion yet. It may not come in at all, or it might be 50g.
2. What's a complex camera, maybe there is a definition somewhere, but I've not seen it yet? FPV quads have cameras by definition. I think the rule at the moment states approximately that a camera used exclusively for flying or monitoring the flight can be ignored. But all FPV goggles and virtually all monitors can record the video, so who is to say what it might be used for? Would you want to argue that with the police officer that turns up while you are flying? In addition, those cameras can be pretty good digital quality these days, using HDZero etc, makes it even harder to argue away.
So, I think to just say, "don't worry, you aren't affected" is being optimistic. Potentially, I think he is affected. Unless you are aware of ways that he has a solid get out?
Yes and you are right to pull me up on this. It has been on my mind and I have sent specific questions to the CAA around the topic. I am aware of more information which will indeed give a get out for this type of quad, I will explain more fully in the next live show tomorrow.
Overall, we need a definitive guide of how FPV will fit into this new world of rules. We simply don't have enough detail. Which is a concern in itself.
@@Geeksvanadon't think we are in their view, too few of us. Afterthought at best.
@@Geeksvanaactually, having read the doc now, it appears the only thing that is proposed a 50 or 100g limit would do is remove the need for a flyer ID, that is all it says anyway. Everything else, including therefore remote ID I assume, would stay the same.
Good live show, thanks Sean.
I can live with most of it but RID is a recipe for disaster. The Karens are violent these days, you only need look at the road rage incidents which were not a thing when i grew up. Now it's a daily occurrence.
Also, this idea they have that a sub 250g drone without a camera is perfectly safe but another sub 250g drone with a camera is a deadly weapon is just bizarre.
The UK1/2/3 idea is nonsense and i suspect more about CAA ego than anything else. Given DJI drones were being sold in the EU with a C1 sticker whilst the exact same drone in the UK was being sold without the availability of that sticker, i doubt we will buy drones with both stickers attached, making the drones we buy in the UK being unusable in Europe.
Remote ID when not in network mode shows the pilot's position.
Next!
Well of course they don't, we don't have Remote ID in this country yet but if you're so naive to believe that they won't find out once this is in place, good luck to you.
I fly a completely home built 4kg quad, with 15kg lift capability- As a hobby and for estate tree management (on private land).
I use home built/designed radio gear and 'vintage' radio because the old bands are now empty - no interference.
I have the capability of full spectrum spread spectrum (same as mil), so completely jam proof. That was my aim, as I was also asked to design for an international customer.
I have always believed that 250g plus category should have transponders, which CAA can track when over 150ft AGL. The squawk tech can now be completely minimised to the size of a matchbox using an ASIC and a few additional components. Power draw is minimal, as is the weight penalty.
The biggest problem is receiving the 'ping' from the airport controller transmitters, especially when in a valley, in the radio shadow.
Each transponder could very easily be coded with a sim card, uniquely registered to individuals or organisations.
I used to fly glow fuel balsa aircraft, and making a super heavy lift quad using '60 size engines is my next build project this winter. 1h flight times. Think Avatar movie.
Our local farmer is interested for monitoring stock and supply feed to stranded sheep!
I never fly my 125g selfie stick where anyone can see me. It’s in very remote places while on holiday and at times when there is no one around. I take a picture and flies back to me in seconds dropping into my hand. It’s packed away in a little box that fits in my pocket and I go on my way. I use it so infrequently that for me the regulations will be pointless. The FCA has more chance of regulating me having a piddle in a bush. It seems that the best that the FCA has is to rely on Karen or Kevin to complain to a manager! I doubt that they would even hear or notice me flying given the background noise of nature and my love of seclusion and privacy. If I wanted to take a pic near people (which I don’t, no offence intended, but because I can’t stand people), I’d use my non flying selfie stick instead. As for remote ID. Well they have no hope, that’s just silly. I doubt that a drone so small would have the power or the range for it to be of benefit to any receiver further than 1 km for much more than a few minutes.
The CAA are hiding behind "safety' when in reality they are persecuting the hobby! However shame on all these channels for not calling out the CAA
I'm afraid with all the rules changes year after year, more and more pilots are going to just fly as they see fit. The over regulation of this hobby is going to ruin it in the near future. I fear for the hobby that is so unique.
A drone pilot friend of mine told me that he witnessed his 8 year old son and friends making paper airplanes and he quickly went up to them and explained that that behavier would no longer be allowed in his household because he wasn't sure about what new government regulations were being fabricated to punish all of them for such atrocious behavier..........
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Vastly overpaid quango can go back to the discounted smoking-bar and celebrate stamping on your chips. ID is a joke, it wouldn't stop anyone making one for nefarious purposes anonymously anyhow.
Well, listened to it all now. That was interesting - in an appalling way. However I appreciate your efforts in putting it out there. Please do not take anything I say as ‘shooting the messenger‘. I also haven't actually read the document yet, so there may be misconceptions.
1. Absolutely nothing about home build? (That's me - home build FPV race / freestyle, sub 250).
2. Remote ID. Well done CAA. They've picked all the worse aspects of the US system, and that is bad enough. At least they kept it out of sub 250 recreational flights. But no, it's on everything with a camera which means all FPV as far as I can see. OK, I know the rules on cameras for flying and monitoring but they were never black and white enough to give me confidence (we can all record). Complex camera? What is that? Even if it was as simple as 4K cameras, what happens when FPV goes 4K? Progress is continuous. In fact, I think the difference should not be camera or no camera but the type of flying assistance. A camera drone can basically fly automatically, whereas an FPV drone will not, it needs considerable skill to keep it aloft, therefore an unskilled operator with little experience can fly a camera drone, but not an FPV drone, so the risks are different. Hybrid, stopping takeoff? How does that work on home build? Doesn't matter really, I will never, ever, fit it to anything - too much mass, too much size, too much inconvenience, too much cost, and absolutely on principle.
3. Geofencing. How does that work on home build? Anyway, if I drive my car somewhere it shouldn't go, I risk prosecution - but it doesn't just stop dead at the boundary. Of course drones are so much more dangerous than cars.
4. 50 or 100g exclusion? Better than nothing, but I bet if it comes in it'll be 50. Most whoops (75 and 65mm) you buy are well under 50. However it is nowhere near enough for us race / freestyle FPVers. The absolute minimum should be 250, preferably much higher.
5. FRIAs, don't need registration, no remote ID. Oh good, I declare the whole of the UK to be a FRIA.
6. Sub 250 flyer ID. Waste of time, I'd say. People are either interested in being safe, sensible and considering others, or they aren't. If not, they'll treat it like a chore and instantly forget it.
7. 18,000 complaints? Doesn't surprise me, I know the way the public around here reacts to ‘drones’. (“You fly drones? You mean those dangerous nuisances that spy on people, cause damage and injuries, and bring down aircraft - they should be banned, hanging’s not good enough for them. Not you of course, I trust you - just everyone else”). What matters is the trend and number of upheld complaints.
8. No mention of any concept of shielded operations.
9. No mention of any relaxation in the spotter for FPV rule.
Those are the main points that affect me as I see them now. What a disaster, even Alastair Campbell couldn't put a good spin on that. The thing is, you can look at the details and say, that's bad, that's not so bad, we can discuss this, but if you stand back and take the 20,000 foot view, the CAA are killing this hobby, slowly and steadily. It's not a blanket ban, it just drains the fun out of it all so people are squeezed into a tiny corner and give up. There will be three groups of FPV flyers from this: those that say “sod it, I'm carrying on as before and to hell with them”, those that decide it's not worth the candle and give up, and the few who try to adhere to everything. I'm in the middle group.
It's what happens when you put a hobby in the hands of bureaucrats who regulate commercial flying. They should never have got their hands on it, but it's too late now. And as your co-presenter said, it starts with the politicians, and there's votes in it.
It's the remote ID that kills it for me. I will never fit it, as above, on principle as much as anything. If I do not feel the rules 100% exclude my craft from the need for it with no shadow of doubt - and I doubt they will - that'll be me done.
Well, better read the full document. Will I respond? Don't know actually. I religiously have up to now, but I know - and I'm sure you do too really - that it's a waste of time. They consult partly because they have too and partly because they can make minor concessions to prove they listened, but nothing significant changes. Renaming A1, 2 and 3. Fantastic, glad they did that. Talk about fiddling while Rome burns.
Ah well, it was nice while it lasted.
Good and useful video though, thanks.
Its fools like auditors and flying near airports that has thinks F$@ up.I have my drone licence as a EU member state here in Ireland, and I will be flying my drone around the countryside no matter what the law is as the law is common sense what judge will convict a person flying a drone around the sea cliffs of mountains.The people of this world are losing there power of freedom bring back Willam Wallace 🤣
Within 2 years you wont be able to even buy a drone until you've passed a test which includes, - Juggling 5 working chainsaws while riding a unicycle up a flight of 100 stairs wearing a diving helmet and reciting the whole of war and peace.
Another "law" to be ignored...
The uk governments drive to have all drone pilots who own a drone to just give them all their money as that is what this boils down to money. If they legislate enuff they think ppl will drop it they wont what they will do is fall into non compliance like i have and take my self my drone and my hobby underground now they get crap all from me nothing
Welcome to 1984, where only the state is allowed to monitor anything………
Rule 1 you can fly your drone but it cannot have batteries!
Petrol power and an alternator, with decent capacitors and a type of BEC... 😀
i can see drone pilots having to buy golf range finders!!!
Still underexposed....
Will it get rid of auditors that fly over building
Hope not. It's not just auditors that use drones to fly over buildings.
Sounds like people need to get proper jobs . Money for old rope.
The hobby is dying and they are working to kill it off completely.
DJ audits caused this for sure.
Need a 5 minute summary video
Editing it right now... Will have three short breakdowns released in the morning.
You don't need an operators license if you pay cash for a drone.