I can relate my late dad was discharged from the military in mysterious circumstances and really suffered but he still remains my hero he fought PTSD without any treatment, turned his life around, started a business from scratch and even went ahead to become a church elder. God also heals he died of an accident but he was a changed man. I honor all soldiers and know what PTSD does
Maj kiharangwa wherever you are thank you, you chased me away back in 2010 pale lanet thanks a lot I was very bitter with you but life had a very different thing for me . Wenye mko service Mungu awe nanyi
Thank you Dr King'ori for bringing this issue to light. Our heroes are suffering and there is no one else addressing the issues. Majority of the soldiers will tell you they are trained to fight the enemy, bury the dead but nothing to do with integration back to the society after wars. i just wish there can be a special psychiatric hospital for our men who serve this country with zeal and zest.
My friend Omar Komora, who was a navy officer, immediately after leaving Somalia suffered PTSD in silencer, in a span of 90 days he run mad and until today, he is still a mad man kuokota na kubeba vitu vyake kwa gunia and roaming the streets in Utange Kiembeni area in Mombasa . Our soldiers are suffering.
You can tell someone who has been through the absolute pits, just by their demeanor, their eyes, the non verbal cues, buana, this man has seen some shit. Bless the likes of Major Wairimu, and may John get a sense of normalcy and fruitful rest of his life, thank you for your service.
KDF Should start a serious counselling hospital... To take care of our soldiers. It's wrong again to discharge soldiers who are suffering from PTSD. take care of our people 😡
I just hope this conversation won't stop until it reaches the highest office in the Kenya. I pray for John and all retired soldier's not to give up and keep pressing on in his journey to recovery. Kudos to Major wairimu for being there for them.
Dr kingori thanks for show after our Kdf officer and veterans and i just want to say i can attest to everything to they are sharing coz i was raised by a kdf father who is retired right now and i can tell we have been to hell and back especially my mom she has been through alot. And the government should do something about veterans coz it's sad seeing someone you love suffer yet even the pension fund yenye wanapewa is useless
Thank you for bringing this conversation. Growing up I remember my father who was in the military had anger management issues and we could never understand why. He was very harsh and it became worse as years went on. An year before his retirement his marriage of 30 years with my mum ended . Now we understand all his issues was ptsd. We all need to be sensitive about this
God bless our kdf forces my brother was in the army and was very brutal at home and I now understand PTSD symptoms one being violent towards family members. Great show Dr kingori and let us continue educating the public and society and families on how to help the suffering veterans who gaurd our country jelously with their body mind and soul while we sleep at peace. We can form a charity organization to Help them cope with PTSD and family struggles. 📖🙋🙌🏽🛐🙏🏽🛐🛐🙋🙋
Dr Kingori am a neighbour of Mr John Njoroge and currently ( I saw him today 20th Feb) ako ushago very desperate kindly if you can organise help akue psychologically helped.
My heart goes out for our soldiers ,this sad just listening to this specified in trauma as therapist would like to real work with them,let's have compassion and offer compulsory counselling and mental assessment to our service men.They deserve normal lives and be happy as they serve the country.
I also know of three KDF officers who have done three tours of Somalia and they are still serving the nation... Pole kwa huyu ndugu yetu na wengineo kwa yale wamepitia
It's good someone just said something because I lived contemplating this issue cause I saw this people and what they went through after the mission. I thank God that it has been revealed because I thought nobody cared.
It's time that our country puts in pace a mechanism to evaluate and monitor our service men and women mental health. Thank you for bringing this to light
Their is a bill set to be introduced in Parliament about veterans by Mr kimunya I hope it'll address such issues through proper ammendments because what I read on newspaper today will not be of much service to the army veterans
Therapy should be mandatory for those in the army and police force. Many people don't come out to talk about their PTSD unless they're pushed to seek therapy and it's always too late when we realise they need the help. I feel like it should just be part of the job. It would help a lot from an early stage.
You'd be extra ordinarily brave to date or marry a man of the forces. Any forces hata polisi. In the end they'll shoot you. Ni kama kufuga simba, njaa yake ya nyama haitawahipotea.
This is my first time to comment on a RUclips video, and I must admit that the forces NEED a programme in place to support the integration of these service men and women, back to the society. This is like a pandemic.
Ee Mungu nguvu yetu Ilete baraka kwetu Haki iwe ngao na mlinzi Natukae na udugu Amani na uhuru Raha tupate na ustawi. Amkeni ndugu zetu Tufanye sote bidii Nasi tujitoe kwa nguvu Nchi yetu ya Kenya Tunayoipenda Tuwe tayari kuilinda Natujenge taifa letu Eeh, ndio wajibu wetu Kenya istahili heshima Tuungane mikono Pamoja kazini Kila siku tuwe na shukrani May we all pray for our children guarding our freedoms. May they find peace. May we all gather the courage to hold our gvt accountable and demand clean and progressive politics from them.
It's a security risk to have such kind of men In the military. They need special care but you see even the most advanced militaries in the world have such cases from those who served for their country. What KDF should do is to ensure that treatment for PTSD is subsidized for these KDF Officers who've been discharged from duty because of one reason or another
I wish my dad could come and tell he's story , he served for 35 years won several wars as a troop leader just to end up in upcountry with nothing ... he's a leged who deserved to be known
War is an easy thing to talk about. As the title of Sebastian Bae’s piece says, "war is only romantic if you have never been in one. I have seen close friends killed, I have held young boys in my arms as they died. I have taken the lives of other human beings. I have known fear so intense as to drive good men insane."
I have listened to Rtd Major Mukuria a lot, she has a good intention but a wrong approach. In all her interviews instead of telling us how to overcome stress. She parades ex KDF soldiers who had bad time in the military. We civilians also face mental health issues. We need her to tell us how to overcome stress rather than telling us what she used to do in the military
Can kdf benchmark with other world best militaries on how they treat their veterans,Americans,British French etc have had their soldiers in war theatres for long.
This Kenya is so so corrupt, when the big kids wants a position... they don't care what happens to people is none of their business.... you are still a hero to us,may God see you through tough times.
The Gvt should do something Manze. This is bad. How do you defend your country with your life and end up being just let go. Just like that. Like you did nothing. I might not be able to understand the depth but I believe things can be done to be changed. My prayers are with the Troups in he battle field and those out. My God bless our Troups and Change this Country's Gvt systems.
I want to believe this will reached to our commander in chief Mr. Uhuru and the Interior minister Mr. Matiangi,alot need to be done on our Army this imply to our police service also you can see how they have been killing their loved one.
Absolute nonsense. KDF is about discipline. That so called Major should stop discrediting the KDF by parading drunkards who couldn't fit in the military and blaming it on PSTD. We have been in various missions and operations and we are still sober and normal. That Major seems to have a beef with KDF. She should first all tell us how she left the KDF.
It's so heartbreaking, I lost my husband coz of this, he went through so much after Somali just like Mwangi, he is now gone forever(passed away) and maybe he could have been helped
God bless you bro for making these voices that have been silenced for long to be heard. I have been in their shoes before, though am from another service. Luckily, I have a very supportive family- especially my mom. Am still in service and the govt is trying to help members of the service with mental health in general. Where the govt is failing though, is how to prepare members of service to transform into civilian life. Very many veterans either take their lives or sometimes along with the lives of their loved ones once outside service because of how the govt fail to take care of them. The burden of their service is not proportional to the send off packages in place now- especially those that get discharged before their retirement and this hero is just an example. #ALL_GAVE_SOME_BUT_SOME_GAVE_ALL
The government should do sth about our Veterans and deal with PTSD to a certain level. Also I am so proud of our military ❤️ after watching this. Yaani hawa wasee ni war machines. Their career imefanya Akili idefault vita kama reality yao. Eeh!
They need support morally, spiritually and psychologically and financially because they live the things they have witnessed in war zones and affect them
Kenya is a cruel country. You take a poor but bright boy from University, give him some training and ship him to war in Somalia. When he comes back and needs the country to stand with him for what he has gone through, you dismiss him from the job.
I can relate my late dad was discharged from the military in mysterious circumstances and really suffered but he still remains my hero he fought PTSD without any treatment, turned his life around, started a business from scratch and even went ahead to become a church elder. God also heals he died of an accident but he was a changed man. I honor all soldiers and know what PTSD does
@1863 correct
Maj kiharangwa wherever you are thank you, you chased me away back in 2010 pale lanet thanks a lot I was very bitter with you but life had a very different thing for me . Wenye mko service Mungu awe nanyi
I know this guy.He was one class ahead of me in high school.He was very bright.Kudos to our soldiers.
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NHS?
Yeah, he was in Nyandarua High, I recall him very well.
@Mrs Inziani No am in Kenya
@Mrs Inziani ignorent
This guy is a hero and he will be back on track
Thank you Dr King'ori for bringing this issue to light. Our heroes are suffering and there is no one else addressing the issues. Majority of the soldiers will tell you they are trained to fight the enemy, bury the dead but nothing to do with integration back to the society after wars. i just wish there can be a special psychiatric hospital for our men who serve this country with zeal and zest.
ruclips.net/video/2AVsfhIaNmM/видео.html🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
My friend Omar Komora, who was a navy officer, immediately after leaving Somalia suffered PTSD in silencer, in a span of 90 days he run mad and until today, he is still a mad man kuokota na kubeba vitu vyake kwa gunia and roaming the streets in Utange Kiembeni area in Mombasa . Our soldiers are suffering.
I know him ....very painful
Ooooh very sand.Naomba apone.
I also know a former colleague who after leaving Somalia, took to alcohol, he was eventually dismissed which made matters even worse...
There is possibility that alidhulumu watu huko somalia!
@@heatherwanjuguna4629 uko kwa force bado ama?
We love our soldiers and officers. Let's find ways to support them as society.
You can tell someone who has been through the absolute pits, just by their demeanor, their eyes, the non verbal cues, buana, this man has seen some shit. Bless the likes of Major Wairimu, and may John get a sense of normalcy and fruitful rest of his life, thank you for your service.
This story is giving me goosebumps manh. Like kwani what kind of a country are we living in bana
This guy is from my place back at home and I tell you he was ruthless as he says 😪
Where is there...?
Njoro Egerton
@dr kingori let us have his number tumchangie for better health care ..
Tunaeza msaidia apate best psychological care,
Huyu ndio REAL HEROE
If he doesn't get psychological help money is nothing
KDF Should start a serious counselling hospital... To take care of our soldiers. It's wrong again to discharge soldiers who are suffering from PTSD. take care of our people 😡
I just hope this conversation won't stop until it reaches the highest office in the Kenya. I pray for John and all retired soldier's not to give up and keep pressing on in his journey to recovery. Kudos to Major wairimu for being there for them.
Dr kingori thanks for show after our Kdf officer and veterans and i just want to say i can attest to everything to they are sharing coz i was raised by a kdf father who is retired right now and i can tell we have been to hell and back especially my mom she has been through alot. And the government should do something about veterans coz it's sad seeing someone you love suffer yet even the pension fund yenye wanapewa is useless
Thank you for bringing this conversation. Growing up I remember my father who was in the military had anger management issues and we could never understand why. He was very harsh and it became worse as years went on. An year before his retirement his marriage of 30 years with my mum ended . Now we understand all his issues was ptsd. We all need to be sensitive about this
Maximum respects to our men in uniform .Maximum respects for always being on the frontline for our sake...defending our country....
Solders not police officer
2Lt Njoroge, a sharp, selfless, humble and determined officer. 27/1/017 changed everything, we'll live to remember. You are a true hero. salute🎖️
God bless our kdf forces my brother was in the army and was very brutal at home and I now understand PTSD symptoms one being violent towards family members. Great show Dr kingori and let us continue educating the public and society and families on how to help the suffering veterans who gaurd our country jelously with their body mind and soul while we sleep at peace. We can form a charity organization to Help them cope with PTSD and family struggles. 📖🙋🙌🏽🛐🙏🏽🛐🛐🙋🙋
Hello, kindly inbox
Dr Kingori am a neighbour of Mr John Njoroge and currently ( I saw him today 20th Feb) ako ushago very desperate kindly if you can organise help akue psychologically helped.
This is sad. Praying that he gets help soonest
Ushago kwao ni wapi he look familiar
@@Limitless-Mindset-e9r Njoro Sub County, Nakuru. Sai ako shagz desperate sana walai. He really needs help
My heart goes out for our soldiers ,this sad just listening to this specified in trauma as therapist would like to real work with them,let's have compassion and offer compulsory counselling and mental assessment to our service men.They deserve normal lives and be happy as they serve the country.
Nice work Dr. Kingori and crew.
Sharing these experiences is important. Makes us humanize the KDF and appreciate the fact that we live in peace
Kenya should acknowledge their military veterans
This is so sad...... this was a school mate of mine .. am glad he is getting counselling and he is recovering... 💕
Is a shame this time and age that the military can not have exit interview for their veterans. This miss using the soldiers.
NHS?
@@keithmbuthia yes
I also know of three KDF officers who have done three tours of Somalia and they are still serving the nation... Pole kwa huyu ndugu yetu na wengineo kwa yale wamepitia
Thank you Major Mukuria for bringing this discussion to the mainstream
I Know understand why my friend anangojaga tu salary anakunywa yote then waits for another endmonth
My brother in law is very ruthless with everything and everyone ,he is a soldier too.
May be or just may be he is suffering too.
May the Lord heal him and help him adjust in the civilian world.
The way he was dismissed is very unfair, but there is hope.
This guy got depressed ,,he is my neighbour aki
What people forget is that human beings are still animals and only God has the power of separating the two
A great deservice to these warriors by the government for not taking care of them after bravely serving the country.
It's good someone just said something because I lived contemplating this issue cause I saw this people and what they went through after the mission. I thank God that it has been revealed because I thought nobody cared.
We celebrate you bro. You are our hero
I really pitty this guy, he deserves another chance. You and energetic. I can see he still not well recovered.
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It's time that our country puts in pace a mechanism to evaluate and monitor our service men and women mental health. Thank you for bringing this to light
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Wafanye kama nani. Wanasiasa don't care. We should grab them and burn them
Their is a bill set to be introduced in Parliament about veterans by Mr kimunya I hope it'll address such issues through proper ammendments because what I read on newspaper today will not be of much service to the army veterans
Therapy should be mandatory for those in the army and police force. Many people don't come out to talk about their PTSD unless they're pushed to seek therapy and it's always too late when we realise they need the help. I feel like it should just be part of the job. It would help a lot from an early stage.
True
This is probably my best episode big up Kingori great content.
It's even tough being the wife .. u can't even sleep😭 it's a tough world
I can't even imagine dealing with the PTSD on a daily basis as a spouse
You'd be extra ordinarily brave to date or marry a man of the forces. Any forces hata polisi. In the end they'll shoot you. Ni kama kufuga simba, njaa yake ya nyama haitawahipotea.
@@kahunakorteze2763 not true...you just learn to handle them...don't just generalize
@@njokimbuthia4006 you'll take the risk of being a lesson for humanity? I feel it's just a matter of time.
This is my first time to comment on a RUclips video, and I must admit that the forces NEED a programme in place to support the integration of these service men and women, back to the society. This is like a pandemic.
Ee Mungu nguvu yetu
Ilete baraka kwetu
Haki iwe ngao na mlinzi
Natukae na udugu
Amani na uhuru
Raha tupate na ustawi.
Amkeni ndugu zetu
Tufanye sote bidii
Nasi tujitoe kwa nguvu
Nchi yetu ya Kenya
Tunayoipenda
Tuwe tayari kuilinda
Natujenge taifa letu
Eeh, ndio wajibu wetu
Kenya istahili heshima
Tuungane mikono
Pamoja kazini
Kila siku tuwe na shukrani
May we all pray for our children guarding our freedoms. May they find peace. May we all gather the courage to hold our gvt accountable and demand clean and progressive politics from them.
I thank God I never made it to KDF even after the numerous attempts...However I wish the officers well as they recover from PTSD.
Thanks for this conversation now I understand why my friend doesn't talk much even am scared
Oh my God. Thank for your service Sir. I can't believe this is what veterans go through.
I Eagerly waited for this episode.. thank you our laughter doctor.
It is sad that KDF fires such kind of soldiers instead of taking care of them
It's a security risk to have such kind of men In the military. They need special care but you see even the most advanced militaries in the world have such cases from those who served for their country. What KDF should do is to ensure that treatment for PTSD is subsidized for these KDF Officers who've been discharged from duty because of one reason or another
People go through alot.... our society need such information... like dealing with PTSD
My love and prayers goes to you and all the officers guarding our lovely country Kenya
This is a lot of information 💯, says alot about what really goes on with these resilient men
😂😂wee jeff
This is a calling to our President something must be done and be done with immediate effect to our loveable Veterans.
Am sorry commander....may God open up your ways
I really wanted the soldier's job real bad, but after seeing this... wacha nikue traffic niokote mamia huku kwa matatu
😂😂😂 ᵃˡᵃᶠᵘ ᵘˢⁱᵏⁱᵉ ᴹᵀᵁ ᵃᵏⁱᵏʷᵃᵐᵇⁱᵃ ᵘᵃᵐᵉ ᵏᵉⁿʸᵃ😂
Hehehe...isokey..end justifies the means
Uko na ufala wacha corruption especially hizi ndogo ndio the worst!
Afande Mwangi was my guy back in Kenyatta barracks Gilgil
I wish my dad could come and tell he's story , he served for 35 years won several wars as a troop leader just to end up in upcountry with nothing ... he's a leged who deserved to be known
Which wars are these? Kenya has never been to war since independence.
Ignorance is a desease. Kenyan soldiers have been deployed to peace keeping missions over the years.
@@mattews957 peace keeping is not a war you fool
Waaah this touched me ,, The gvt should do something after seeing this , these people need help
We always romanticize war and being in the military. But on the real, these people go through so much. Please take care of our veterans.
War is an easy thing to talk about. As the title of Sebastian Bae’s piece says, "war is only romantic if you have never been in one. I have seen close friends killed, I have held young boys in my arms as they died. I have taken the lives of other human beings. I have known fear so intense as to drive good men insane."
So sad, I feel for our veterans
I think this guy was a cube mate Nyandarua high school room 5 Tana in 2009...
What kind of country are we living in? This is a big shame to the KDF. I never knew things were this bad.
I have listened to Rtd Major Mukuria a lot, she has a good intention but a wrong approach. In all her interviews instead of telling us how to overcome stress. She parades ex KDF soldiers who had bad time in the military. We civilians also face mental health issues. We need her to tell us how to overcome stress rather than telling us what she used to do in the military
She has experience in her field so she works with ex soldiers.
Kindly look for other therapists who offer the same services to civilians.
She's trained specifically for military!
It's an episode on Military PTSD and highlighting the need for the government to take care of veterans.
Can kdf benchmark with other world best militaries on how they treat their veterans,Americans,British French etc have had their soldiers in war theatres for long.
We ni nni bna
I have a friend a former kdf and he is messed up. Right from somalia
Can we also talk about the rate of suicide in the disciplined forces? The recent statistics are depressing.
This Kenya is so so corrupt, when the big kids wants a position... they don't care what happens to people is none of their business.... you are still a hero to us,may God see you through tough times.
This is so a scary story,and it raises so many questions,This our brothers and sisters need a lot of physiological assistance,It’s so very scary.
This is so touching man
Very important point to note.."they don't know how to spend life out here",they need counselling ....
The Gvt should do something Manze. This is bad. How do you defend your country with your life and end up being just let go. Just like that. Like you did nothing. I might not be able to understand the depth but I believe things can be done to be changed. My prayers are with the Troups in he battle field and those out. My God bless our Troups and Change this Country's Gvt systems.
Such an interesting story More Eps to come
Its a crazy job. The Commander in Chief forgot this part of his job description.
I want to believe this will reached to our commander in chief Mr. Uhuru and the Interior minister Mr. Matiangi,alot need to be done on our Army this imply to our police service also you can see how they have been killing their loved one.
Matiangi is in charge of the police or internal security not kdf or the military
This is so sad to listen. In Britain most soldiers end up being homeless because they refuse or are not able to adopt to civilian life.
Absolute nonsense. KDF is about discipline. That so called Major should stop discrediting the KDF by parading drunkards who couldn't fit in the military and blaming it on PSTD. We have been in various missions and operations and we are still sober and normal. That Major seems to have a beef with KDF. She should first all tell us how she left the KDF.
@@ndegwajohn4952PTSD is real.
It's so heartbreaking, I lost my husband coz of this, he went through so much after Somali just like Mwangi, he is now gone forever(passed away) and maybe he could have been helped
Take heart mummy 💖💖
Pole jacky
Am sorry for ..be strong at heart..may his soul continue resting in peace
What caused the death?
Pole sana
Waah.. Story like mine ..... All is OK ... Bro kudoz never give up ..let your destiny difine u ...😢😢😢😢
Oiye may God help him and make a way for him and give him peace.... Oiye I feal bad
Why Release Such Trained Soldiers To The Society Without A Plan? The Church Has A Role To Play Because They Are Our Own Brothers And Sisters
We are ot here bro..highly trained,been through hell...the skills you have,it takes heart not to be a heist master
My good friend and classmate whom we used to compete in school is still undergoing the same. I feel for them.
Take your time this is quite touching
Imagine experiencing war then coming back and seeing people throw away the freedom that has costed them their lives🤔
Hey, classmate. I remember you vividly, Nyandarua High School.
God bless you bro for making these voices that have been silenced for long to be heard. I have been in their shoes before, though am from another service. Luckily, I have a very supportive family- especially my mom. Am still in service and the govt is trying to help members of the service with mental health in general. Where the govt is failing though, is how to prepare members of service to transform into civilian life. Very many veterans either take their lives or sometimes along with the lives of their loved ones once outside service because of how the govt fail to take care of them. The burden of their service is not proportional to the send off packages in place now- especially those that get discharged before their retirement and this hero is just an example. #ALL_GAVE_SOME_BUT_SOME_GAVE_ALL
You're content is exceptional.
First,
Love you dr.
That camp at Kipini saved the Senior Principal Magistrate Garsen this year, if it were not for them, they would have died.
The same thing happened to My dad in 2002 till now He has never recovereed from that tumor #exsoldierslifematter alot
The government should do sth about our Veterans and deal with PTSD to a certain level.
Also I am so proud of our military ❤️ after watching this. Yaani hawa wasee ni war machines. Their career imefanya Akili idefault vita kama reality yao. Eeh!
The post traumatic stress.i feel sorry for you.
They need support morally, spiritually and psychologically and financially because they live the things they have witnessed in war zones and affect them
I now understand why some of our parents are reluctant for their sons and daughters kuenda jeshi
It's really petty with how Kenya is understood in EAC I can't believe kama kenya this happen.sincerly government has to do something
in usa immediate, frm battle field they put them on a programe for counseling and they live as acommunity...
Us soldiers suffer much worse!!! They were soldiers who went to Saigon Vietnam who are suffering till now.
Woooiye! Such people need help 😭😭😭😭😭 God watch over our soldiers pls
Kenya is a cruel country. You take a poor but bright boy from University, give him some training and ship him to war in Somalia. When he comes back and needs the country to stand with him for what he has gone through, you dismiss him from the job.
Soo sad😭😭😭
Navile watu wanaingagania kupata job huko God bless them
Hapo Kwa Nyeri kuna stories within the story
Amazing job Dr King'ori
I have a cuzo who is in kdf also ,went to somalia afyer kutoka he was smhow mad but mungu nimwema alipona na ako job bado
Kingori nikama unapenda story za jeshi .si tupatane gathiga
PTSD is real and should be addressed in our military and other security organisations.
Much respect to our solders
Through their painful stories, these brave men are helping many tormented souls.
They break you down for the military but forget to make you whole after service.