I think my favorite part is when they go into the puzzle game site. Because everything before that seems like a huge reach, and then they show the complexity in the puzzles and it's like "oh, these guys could completely know what they're doing".
The whole puzzle section just screams 4chan to me. Anytime you see a very elaborate puzzle like that with a very stupid or troll-ish conclusion, it's usually them.
You are correct, sir. However, everything he said is still a HUGE reach. The reality is, the person who made the video latched on to ONE thing, the word ape.
Imagine if you were being charged with a crime, and every time a piece of evidence against you was brought up, your lawyer just kept screaming "REEEACH"
this would fly out of the court immediately since all of this is circumstantial evidence and no hard proof. Circumstantial evidence is indirect evidence that does not, on its face, prove a fact in issue but gives rise to a logical inference that the fact exists. maybe in civil court this could work but criminal court would need someone to admit to something, a swastika tattoo or one of those guys saying sieg heil on video. Criminal court does have higher standards due to the go to prison part of it.
@@0bomberjack0 You do realize that most court cases don't have legitimate hard evidence right? Beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't mean video evidence, it often means enough circumstantial evidence that the likelihood of everything being a coincidence isn't worth considering. That's why the wording is beyond a reasonable doubt and not any doubt, because there will almost always be some tiny chance
@@rheawelsh4142 thanks for repeating what i said you really added to the discussion. The different levels of proof are needed for civil and criminal cases which are two seperate courts. In civil it's mostly about money while criminal can make you a fellon and get you into prison for the rest of your life and that's where the different levels of proof come into play. Usually judges know the difference but some don't cause they're bad at their job.
Honestly, the fact that they made people trade jpegs for millions of dollars is way funnier. The hidden racist references aren't even that imressive at that point.
@halvorson566 exactly when I heard it I immediately thought back to my 13-year-old self, making gamertags referencing shit only the biggest nerds would get
"how many times does it take?": "Once is an occurrence, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern, and patterns are worth exploring" -a wise man
@@davidsantiago7808 fr, you can accidentally use imagery that ends up having bad connotations, but the logo is way too fucking specific to be an accident
@@davidsantiago7808 Those are just species of monkeys...technically it is racist because it refers to race.... And even so..who cares. Calling someone a name doesnt change anything in the real world. Buy it or dont buy it...but not everything needs a racist lens. BTW - Hiring black people and woman under guise of "Equity Hiring"...is racist/sexist. But you dont care about that.... These Ism's are everywhere. If you want to attack them please be consistent and not act like some blinded horse lead by societies emotional carrot.
Also, when you can accuse every race to be white supremacists it loses all meaning. "Oh, just because you're black you think you can't be a white supremacist?" Yes, exactly, and you're insane if you think otherwise.
The interview with those ladies with the bored ape lady giving weird circle running answers is one of the creepiest interviews I've ever seen. Is that actually real? For real?
@@greenfroggood2392 "They have a background in writing, like both of them are authors so, like, they're creatives, like, they're not academic people, they're like, creatives, and so this is like a creation for them" Bitch was like a broken record in these clips.
I never connected the dots to racism before, but I always believed that the name "bored apes" is a mockery making fun of the buyers. The buyers are the real bored apes.
What's really funny is the left who's ideology has killed more people in the last century than every religion, ideology combined is selling people on how terrible the right is. It's beyond laughable
Wait. I’m not sure but I thought Japanese version 2chan was way older than 4chan. I’m from Japan by the way. The name 2chan(Channel 2) comes from , back in the days(Analog TV era) Japanese Channel wasn’t used by broadcast and we mostly used channels 2 for Line in (like connecting nintendo games or video). New age started to grow and start to get bored against same old broadcast TV. So 2chan(2チャン) had meaning of frustration of old type media. And most of the Emoji culture cane from 2chan. Things like text base Emojis like ( ´∀｀)人(´∀｀ ) ( ´Д`)y━･~~ smoking And yes 2chan went through many problems similar to 4chan Sorry if my English doesn’t make sense.
I think the game was the smoking gun. The game was the proof that they were willing to think deeply, favor cryptic puzzles and use hidden meanings. That makes all the other reaches plausible, along with it being created by writers but then having almost no "story" told explicitly.
Everybody's eyes being burned out is harking to Ezikiels chariot. They're being blatant in their messaging about how stupid people are to fly too close to the sun. With themselves playing the sun in the story. It's a disease but people who do this shit cant stop. They're committed.
I agree but then again I'm asking what is the benefit for the creators? Pushing their Nazi agenda with symbolism and messages so well hidden that 99.9999% of people can't even understand it...
I think its really mostly just marketing. Put a big RUclipsr in there, chances are someone from their community sees it and tells them to watch it cause they its funny. If you put in 5 of them and at least one of them reacts to it, thats another 100k views on your video the next day.
@@undsowei1erundsofor1 But the video he is promoting here is literally hidden from the platform in this case. Go ahead, try to find it. This one is probably just Asmon wanting to make this viewed.
@@kurtlee3198 Uhh…that doesn’t really PROVE anything other than the possibility that the company they contracted to do the “puzzles” were in on the troll OR BAYC had final say in what the solutions would be and all the “hidden meanings” and shit slipped completely under the contracted studio’s radar.
I don't understand why the video needed an in-depth walkthrough of the puzzle, to me it seemed like filler. Very little of it was relevant to the thesis statement of the video, and mostly it just boiled down to "it repeatedly makes references to primates, and racists like to use primate-related slurs." For myself, some of the evidence presented early in the video was strong, but then it seemed to devolve into a gisp gallop of sorts, and I found myself less convinced by the time the second poll was run. The argument, "how many points do you need to be convinced" struck me as a red flag; it's a generally wrong-headed approach to take, because what should matter is the quality of the evidence, or how the available evidence fits into a pattern of logic, not how many bullet points of "evidence" and loose associations you can throw at the wall. This is one of the ways people fool themselves into believing in more far-fetched conspiracy theories. So you can make the point that ape/primate imagery/language/pseudo-science has a robust history of being used in a racist way. That is a very good point to make. But then regardless of what the intentions were behind choosing apes as the theme, you would naturally expect the project to have other ape/primate-related elements, so for those instances to be considered as new/separate pieces of evidence for the argument, there should be some really compelling additional context pertinent to each additional "point" being presented; if the additional context is a stretch, it should be given minimal weight, since we've already considered and assigned some weight to the general "apes are associated with racism" point.
The strange thing is that Deng Xiaoping actually died in 1997. (The Nerd is shocked) The game... predicted the future. In fact, 1997 was the year the United Kingdom returned the rule of Hong Kong back to China. The movie, from '94, forecast this in the tagline: "99 years of British rule are about to come to an end... Hong Kong will never be the same." The movie stars Robert Patrick, the T-1000 from Terminator 2: Judgment Day, and Judgment Day takes place... in 1997. Part of Deng Xiaoping's ear is sort of cut off, like when Mike Tyson bit off a piece of Evander Holyfield's ear in 1997. The car, I'm willing to bet, is a Mercedes Benz, in which Princess Diana died in '97. And what was the year Coca-Cola launched Surge? '97. And it's no coincidence all my surge protectors were made in China. Rebooting the entire game after you die? Just like Symphony of the Night. '97. Jackie Chan, uh, Rumble in the Bronx, uh, the Bronx, New York City, the Big Apple...(gasps) The year Steve Jobs returned to Apple in '97. The unstoppable, unrelenting song is called I Love Beijing Tiananmen, also known as I Love Peking Tiananmen. Peking Duck is a famous duck dish from Beijing. (gasps) And Scrooge McDuck had his 50th Anniversary in '97! The game was such a titanic failure. (gasps) Titanic, the movie from '97! Why was this game's sole purpose to direct us to the number 97? Huh. Like the NGC-97 galaxy in the constellation of Andromeda, the princess Andromeda who was chained naked to a rock to be sacrificed to a monster. Like Princess Leia and Jabba in Return of the Jedi. (gasps) The Special Edition of Star Wars in '97! Oh, fuck, we're back again. Man, I was just trying to get a final answer here, but I went full circle, like the song that keeps looping. A game that keeps repeating. Maybe it's all about a cycle, an endless cycle. Old, shitty games that become new again! The past becomes the future, birth and death, on and on, it's the cycle of life! The game is the meaning of life! And the thing that keeps life going: reproduction...and food...which becomes shit.
They should also mention that there is a long history of writers and artist's trolling people. The biggest troll of all time is scientology. It was 2 sci fi authors making a bet that one couldn't create an absurd religion and actually get people to follow
No doubt it started out as a troll but it just snowballed into something so much bigger and ended up being a profit making machine. I don't doubt the creators never expected it to blow up as much as it did.
@@gundamnit3594 You are aware that you can check whether what he said is true in under 5 minutes, yes? You know that there are tons of sites that archive 4chan posts, yes? You know that you can search those sites for what that guy claims is 4chan-lingo, yes? Because I did. Which is why I know that he is lying.
Update via wikipedia: In April 2023, federal judge John F. Walter of the United States District Court for the Central District of California issued a summary judgment in Yuga Labs' favor, with damages to be determined at trial.[71] The judge ruled that Ripps and his partner Jeremy Cahen had committed "false designation of origin" and "cybersquatting" and that Yuga Labs was entitled to an injunction and damages.[71][72] Following the court trial, Judge Walter ruled that Yuga Labs was entitled to recover all $1.3 million of Ripps' and Cahen's profits from the sale of the copycat NFTs, plus $200,000 in damages for cybersquatting, plus attorneys' fees; the ruling was made public in October 2023.[73]
Classic example of Juice juicing juice. Team Yuga are juice. Ripps is a juice. Judge is a juice. This is the orange juice world order. Praise the vitamin C
as a graphic design student when I make a logo, I literally make at least 6-10 variations of it. There's absolutely no way these guys accidentally made their logo identical to that Nazi one. Like no shot. It's like asmon said, without the necessary knowledge you won't understand a lot of things. For me personally, I don't have to look past that to know it is on purpose
Yeah, and the ragged circle outline design is especially weird. I've seen like, the letter stamp circle with the wavy outline but the jaggedness of their outline is smth I've never seen anywhere before, people usually either use like one of the -gons, a straight up circle or the wavy circle perimeter like in stamps, the only 2 logos I've seen with the rough circle outline on their logo are the two logos shown in this video.
And there is absolutely no way that the national animal for both the United States and na zi germany is an eagle... Like, with all the different animals around the world, what are the odds they would both just randomly choose eagle? Chances are miniscule. Clearly there is a connection between USA and nazism
"It's easier to fool somebody than it is to convince them that they've been fooled" true words! I remember when i snapped an old friend of mine back to reality with this quote when he was misled by a girl.
The problem is that, a lot of the time, people who use this phrase haven't truly acknowledged the underlying implications for them. The moment you accept something as true because "it came from a trustworthy source", you've opened up the possibility that you're the one being fooled. That being said, this isn't a criticism at all, but more of a reminder. It's literally impossible for anyone to function in the world without accepting most things as true that they cannot 100% individually confirm, so it's inevitable that a lot, if not most, of our beliefs are incorrect. I don't know if that made sense, but it clicks and my head and hopefully it does to anyone who reads it that might be having too much confidence in their ability to differentiate between true and false based solely on another person's words and their own intuition.
They don't have to be racist in order to troll using racist imagery. Especially if they're (semi-) nihilists or want to get genuine racists to give them money.
Despite the context and intentions, this whole cryptic puzzle thing is quite impressive to be honest. Reminds me of the Cicada 3301 event from 10 years ago
@@laneswerve Even if they aren't using it for racist ends the fact they're using if for trash NFT bullshit it's still being used for evil which is disappointing...
There was another project called Genopets where they did something alike (cipher and google geolocation) to find the answer under a certain amount of time to be able to access a key to mint an NFT. I've participated in all of them, and it was challenging AF but so fun and rewarding!
And then reminisces how he provided his son with a spiked kaiser, bike helmet… Then asmon mentioning that he put a bunch of nails sticking through his bike helmet… Then mentioning it might not be safe to use… Then implying that he still has the helmet…
Eh. Ive seen people claim trees, milk, mathematics and liking Dolly Parton songs are all "racist". It wouldnt surprise me if the biggest edgelord troll ever came out of 4chan. This dude starts by saying trolling is an art there. It seems like he ignored his own warning.
I thought the same, that name makes sense and is clever for what it’s being used for 🤷♀️ The ‘other option’ given in the video was a massive reach and made far less sense lol
i think one of the biggest tells that something is going on is the whole puzzle game itself. it shows that they are extremely well versed in cryptic messaging and hiding thing in plain sight. kinda makes me wonder what other types of messaging might be hidden in the bored apes NFTs.
I think it shows how smart these anons can be, and how they are figuring out more and more how to shepherd the masses, and even manipulate the "elites" of society
@@Xemptuous Oh god. We are heading into the world of Metal Gear Solid, only instead of arms dealers, the AI controlling everything will have been created by the hacker known as 4chan.
@@Xemptuous Or... the more likely reality, it just shows how good they are at trolling and getting people riled up about "something" that is actually nothing, and how so many people like yourself get roped into it. 4chan has done very elaborate trolls before, but they're just that, trolls. And obviously Anons are "smart"... Anonymous started out on 4chan, as well as other fringe hacker groups, it's a HUGE community, many of which are cyber geeks, obviously they'd have skills in technology here and there.
Cryptography games aren't rare at all. Lots of games, Escape from Tarkov for example, have had them as promotional contests. Most of the puzzles give you the cipher too so it's not that much of a puzzle.
@@gelatinousturncoat It's bog standard fare to anyone who has participated in or was otherwise involved with some ARG really. Some of the imagery and weirdly specific namedropping does raise an eyebrow, but not much more.
Honestly with how elaborate all those puzzles were I’d reconsider calling anything a reach. That’s was pretty insane and I wouldn’t put it past them to make things so damn obscure they’re often mistaken as just a “reach”
Yea I was firmly in the "this sounds like conspiracy theory nonsense" camp until seeing how elaborate and intricately designed that puzzle was. Hard for me to believe the guys who came up with that puzzle put no hidden meaning into their initial designs.
Further proof of their trolling having a point, adding to that, why is their stuff treated as a crime? They are literally being edgy and as their rep said, they are not white, and yet you don't see this rage against true abuse by the average international corpo The guy of the video claims "they took our money" when in fact they didn't have anything taken from them, just mindlessly raging against what they are told to rage
...people literally went there, it doesn't have a basement. Circumstantial evidence? Non-existent, more like. More than one person has tried too, didn't one guy bust down a door just to find some old cash registers and cleaning equipment.
At the end in the interview he mentions where the logo shows up with the jagged edges... but he fails to mention its on the front page of the official website. The logo in the footer is actually a transparent PNG, but you can't tell because its black on a black background. If you look at the image alone, it has the same jagged edge. Hidden in plain sight.
For me, those jagged/rippled edges of the circular logo were the clincher. When you combine everything else with the fact they created this logo, added a SKULL to it right where the SS' logo has the skull, with the text in the same places on both logos, you can no longer say there's nothing here. Come on. How many round logos do you remember seeing with rippled/jagged edges? I can't think of a single one. That's when I took everything else seriously, and after two views, imo, there's zero percent chance this wasn't completely planned and designed. I don't know or even think these guys are white supremacists, but they're definitely trolls.
@@willd.8040 Of course they're trolls but the implication is that they're alt-right white supremacist nazis. Why was this video made and why is it doing the rounds on Twitch? You know they use these platforms to influence peolpe and to propagate naratives.
@@willd.8040 The whole jagged edge emblem is complete bs. Nazis or Prussians never had jagged imagery or paraphernalia, ever. What was more common was just the skull itself. When it was as an emblem, it was ALWAYS just circular or oval, not jagged. You will never find the jagged edge in any Nazi or Prussian army uniforms, rings, lockets, books, imagery, etc, because that is not how that emblem looks. I do not know where the author of that video found those images with the jagged edge, but as a WW2 buff myself, I've NEVER seen that logo displayed like that in my entire life. It certainly was not worn like that by the SS or the Totenkompf division.
@@tlanimass952 Im pretty sure new age neo nazis use jagged egdes and more metal adjacent imagery a lot atleast here in germany thats quite common. obviously no one is saying those kinds of styles were used in actual nazi uniforms back in the day.
@@tlanimass952 You missed the point. The jagged nazi emblem was used on the internet before NFTs were a thing. Then it was copied by the bored ape guys. Nobody claimed that it was used back in WW2 on uniforms.
Asmon might have the coolest Dad ever. He even watches the streams! There's parents out there right now, with 12 year olds. That don't show as much interest in what their kid likes doing. As much as asmons Dad does, with asmon being a grown ass man! Respect dude!
The interview had the weirdest air to it, everything the ceo was saying sounded like a blatant lie… you’d think she’d have a better composure in the position shes in
That's how you know that man was dedicated to making a good video, he was on top of it and ready to go at a moment's notice for an interview covering it's content; well done.
Good video? All he did was waste my time on vague theories and sketchy connections with puzzles as time filler to give it a more documentary like length. FU Philon, you aint got nothing but far reaches or shit that could be explained as 4 chan inside troll humor, who gives a shit even if they got some nazi sympathies which i doubt seeing the group, it's not like they directly give money or buy weapons for nazis on a massive scale. We got the EU and US doing that right now for Ukraine. Now the Biden laptop.... that is one tasty conspiracy "theory". Shit one of the experts is a artistic (probably hedgefund) guy that made a few memes, wow! Philon brings out the big guns! I find the idea that Philon acts like he is in a Dan Brown novel by solving some monkey themed puzzles on a website where he gets monkey related answers where he looks for the most sinister correlations as explanations expecting the answers to finally bring down an evil multi billion dollar operation HILARIOUS!! Philon should stick to nattie or not like content.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 the video was uploaded a week ago. No shit it was made before the interview lol what point are you trying to make? It's not like Asmongold watched a live video.
32:02 i actually remember seeing that photo studying history. I'm 99% sure (and this is the worst part) that, in that photo, the man is actually staring at the hands of his daughter, who had been cut off to punish him. It's a sick world
@@mohammedsiddiqui3062Not saying you're in the right or wrong but what do you mean? The executioner? The one giving the order? The higher up (Cartel boss, warlord, general)? Everyone?
This man broke down the video extremely well and then with a surprise ending to interview the creator of the video…..Your the man, what a journey this was
@@DorahellmonI’ve always really struggled to understand what people like about XQC. He seems genuinely kind of stupid and never seems to understand what he’s seeing or listening to…his takes are ridiculous a lot of the time and based on a complete misunderstanding of the information given. He adds little/no input to the things he watches mainly just saying “whaaaaaat, no waaay” etc on repeat He seems unable to grasp even the simplest of information🤦🏼♀️ Does he do something else that people enjoy other than just reactions…like gaming or something? Cuz if not I really don’t understand how he has so many subscribers
If I learned one thing on the internet years ago it was that most of the people I'm being told are bad.... aren't bad. And that I'm being told they're bad because bad people want me to think they are
I have not watched much of Asmund but the relationship with his father is really cool. Seems like his dad is really interested in his son and the things he is into. I hope me and my kids can have that relationship when they are older.
I hope so for my future kids as well. I was home over the holiday break and I was doing dishes at my parent’s house and watching a podcast while doing so (at like 25% iPhone speaker volume lol) and my dad comes over from a different part of the house and rudely/coldly says, “Turn that off.” Of course, I ask, “Why?” And he just responds with, “It’s boring. Who cares about their lives?” Keep in mind I’m a 33 year old dude that lives across the country from my parents and is married… it’s not like he’s trying to police what I’m watching lol. He was just being a dick.
@@user-dj9iu2et3rnot really being a dick, hes just telling you that you can do something more productive than listen to some dudes talk about their lives on youtube
Honestly this was a really good video by asmongold covering a really good video by Philion. Huge respect for both for having a discussion on this as well!
@@catra195 alt-right was a term coined by Richard Spencer... You realize that when everyone points to an obvious Nazi being an obvious Nazi and you make these kinds of statements in their defense it ruins any credibility you have right?
It's beautiful, because, right at the beginning, it immediately manipulates the viewer. When he says "how many do you need ? I need just one." It's good, because : with his one, he anchors a low number in our head, so the viewers would think "well, one is a bit too few, let's says 5 or 10". The second is : in the vast sea of the human cesspool that is 4chan, you are bound to find dozens if not hundreds of racist comments, especially by today's standards. What matters is : what is the percentage ? Sure, apes can be considered racist against blacks for some reason, but what about frogs, dogs, cats, bread, clouds, etc that memes are made of ? As an analogy, it's like saying : "I can find 20 Muslims that were terrorists, therefore Islam is all about terrorism" or "I can find 20 black people that were thieves, so all black people are thieves". That number 20 means jack shit due to the vastness of the entire population.
The geniuses of 4CHAN are civilizations last hope. The guy does not understand why no-moderation increases both creativity and determining truth. The Yuga is the Sanscrit term for age, so it could be light age or dark age, only Kali Yuga is dark age as Kali is the goddess of death.
What people need to understand is that 4Chan does work with layers upon layers upon layers of crap like this. That's literally the bloody point, being so absurd and so obscure that normal people just shrug it off as "Pfft that's ridiculous" because yes it is and that's the point. That's why exposing them as racists or of using racist conotations and such has always been so hard.
Oh yeah, a simple political version of this is something like "forced bussing" or inner city management, somethings that sounds like boring city crap but really deal with racist shit pushed by Republicans. Which 4Chan took a look at that, looked at the KKK, and white nationalists, and said, we can make it more obscure
im still blown away they made an entire game with puzzles and messeges all throughout. Thats some dedication, also, the hat with the skull on it that the monkey was wearing was the dead giveaway for me in the rolling stones poster not just the monkey hand
The deathshead isn't a purely German symbol or a racist symbol,its an international symbol thats been used or is used by damn near every nation on earth Its a symbol of elite cavalry or elite units or a symbol of danger
And if the Totenkof IS racist, then the USMC and US Army are racist, the German army is racist, the Portuguese army is racist, the polish are racist, the Royal Air Force is racist, and pretty much every US Cavalry unit is racist as they ALL use the Totenkof to this very day
@@nicholasbrown668 again, all these points make a line. A pattern is a pattern, and when all of these widly different points have two possible patterns have 2 possible interpretations, where one of them is nazi, its worth thinking about. I know analogies are risky but: its like meeting someone and they have 500 red flags, would you give them the benefit of the doubt?
lol, yeah i mean they constantly defend their actions through their race, its bullshit, like how much can you get away with because your race "technically" cannot be racist.
It's absolutely a troll. And I'd argue that little to none of the accusations are reaches, considering if we look at the puzzle we know that they are incredibly smart. They're not stupid, smart to a point that it's hard to believe there'd be any coincidences within it all. With all the information together it all seems purposeful. Carefully calculated and crafted by people who knew exactly what they were doing before they even started BAYC. They aren't being called racists. Or nazis. Or any of that. They're being called trolls, trolls that pulled off the biggest troll. And of course they wont admit it because of how much money they're making.
Good take. Just a bunch of white people taking advantage of the new crypto tech hidden behind mystery. But what brought them together was making fun of 'apes' lol. Wholesome
That's the point. Individually most of the accusations are reaches, but when looking at all of them together, there is no way you can claim it's a coincidence.
@@rayquaza1245 reminds me of Fleming's quote from 007 "once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three time is enemy action." Except in this case it would be "three time is trolling"
@@rayquaza1245 you can though. Have you seen literally any other conspiracy theory they all have similar connections and if you look hard enough you can find connections like that with anything (this has been tested). Ancient aliens and the moon landing conspiracy use similar tactics. Not saying it's not true but none of this counts as proof in science or law. You can say it's likely but not proven.
At what point does trolling become embracing? Just trolling hasn't been a valid defense for a couple years now. These people are spreading Nazi symbolism to people who don't think it's a joke at all. They see it as an acceptance and endorsement of a disgusting view of life. It's beyond laughable you don't think racist trolls are actually racist. Just a joke, right? Sure.
Conspiracies like this really fascinate me. Individually it can all be minor coincidences, or reaches to connect the dots.. But the further you dig into the rabbit hole the number of coincidences gets so high that its almost impossible to ignore. Thats not to say theres any credit to it either though, as there are so many conspiracies like this where you can connect all kinds of obscure references but genuinely are just a strange coincidence. I still don't know how i feel about this one though, the logo itself is probably the biggest red flag for me. Ive never liked the look of it, but never understood why until now, and once you see the connection its very hard not to associate the two afterwards. Even if this was done by mistake, you would 100% change it the moment you realised, and its not like the logo is such a unique design that it would hold some sentimental value to them as a company. You'd scrap that shit immediately.
It's nigh impossible for every single aspect of this to be pure coincidence, there's far too many for it not to be intentional, add on top their clear fascination with cryptography and it just clear as day.
"Even saying what it is makes people feel stupid." HOLY SHIT. My dude just found a way to describe my initial reaction to NFTs, I didn't know that was possible! Like my instincts at the time were sensing BS, at the time I was thinking maybe I was just too dumb to understand it. Trying to describe to myself what I was thinking felt more like a vague description of a feeling than anything. Like I thought briefly maybe I should just go with it because the people pushing NFTs were clearly "smarter" than I am and of course the leaders we should be following are the intelligent ones. I am SO GLAD I have been involved in politics enough to realize super intelligent people can exist on both the right and wrong side, IF there even is only one correct, or only one wrong side. That realization prevented me from falling for some serious shenanigans and I didn't even understand why until just now. My mind is blown.
@@Sercotani Yeah my initial attempts to understand things were a bit embarrassing... Too easy to not think about it during my younger years, citing being too busy with my individual problems and whatnot lol. Guess that's just part of maturing as a person.
Anyways, um... I bought a whole bunch of shungite rocks, do you know what shungite is? Anybody know what shungite is? No, not Suge Knight, I think he's locked up in prison. I'm talkin' shungite. Anyways, it's a two billion year-old like, rock stone that protects against frequencies and unwanted frequencies that may be traveling in the air. That's my story, I bought a whole bunch of stuff. Put 'em around the la casa. Little pyramids, stuff like that.
Its weird, I had the same inital BS sensation when I first started seein this stuff take off. I felt I was missing something, but I think due to not fully understanding I got kinda pulled away from it interest wise. Still dont get why NFT stuff got so popular, or how you can sink that much money into it. D: Its way beyond me, but pretty glad I just opted to stay away from it at first glance lmao. Seems way to shady to me, reminded me of watching Kitboga with all the scams goin on every day.
I'm terrified to realize there are people that have thought processes like this and ones that are even worse... " Like I thought briefly maybe I should just go with it because the people pushing NFTs were clearly "smarter" than I am and of course the leaders we should be following are the intelligent ones." The amount of people that operate on this logic is terrifying.
@@Sercotani Seriously, like wtf am I reading. This is stuff you learn in preschool, you see it in cartoons as a kid. Wtf is this. How many cartoons and kid's shows where the bad guy is an evil genius. There is so much media and culture where this is the premise that are out there, I don't understand how one can be past the age of 7 years old and not at least somewhat be aware or keen about smarter people trying to manipulate them. Did your parents never tell you to watch out for people trying to manipulate you? Watch out for adults or smarter people trying to coerce you. This is so sad, but this is reality, you have to realize that there are more stupid people than smart people. Idiocracy is what we are living in. If you're of average or above intelligence you happen to be one of the rare ones now...
58:55 She seems so uncomfortable and careful answering that question. I found it funny when she mentioned a few partners and their ethnicities, as if someone's race/nationality automatically determines their political beliefs. Interesting video though, a few reaches but some seem too coincidental to be accidental. It wouldn't surprise me if it was all a 4Chan style joke that got out of hand.
How would you ever call it "out of their hands" when they made a fuckin puzzle (with at least 2 pitfalls that purposefully mock the solver that they are wasting their time) using advanced cryptography. These guys are writers who studied the other greatest minds of their time and this is their own masterpiece. They know exactly what they are doing. Its been the same joke all along.
@@White__Ink Oh totally. I meant things blew up and went further than they expected. I assume they couldn't have predicted their "joke" would become the massive phenomenon it is now.
Ngl, any time I hear the word “dog whistle” or “alt right” I immediately discredit whatever anyone is trying to argue because they hyper analyze everything. But this video does make some good points which is crazy
This was mind boggling, incredible story. Really makes you wonder about how much of society is just some ones joke, man you just opened a whole can of worms for me. Not to say i already didnt have reservations but when is just laid out in front of you like this its just staggering.
What gets stranger is that this is the real internet in the video. The internet most people see, websites and social media, is dead. It’s been flooded with AI engagements, fake reviews, fake conversations, and even fake news articles for the past decade. The stuff on 4chan and what these trolls create are real human ideas. The internet most people see is AI. There is no person behind it.
It's either elaborate troll or confirmation bias. This dude seems to be tunnel visioning. Although it could also be true, but a series of reaches when stacked together will always look convincing.
The really insane thing is here in America we have allowed all of these people who are "elite" in society to divide us all into nice neat little groups. That they then use to push violence and discourse among the masses. Left, right, it doesn't matter b/c behind closed doors these insidious assholes are one UNIT who know what they want. And we all fell for it and continue to do so instead of seeing all this bs in America for what it is & unite against them. Elite bid for money, power, control of us, of all. All we see is two sides that "hate' one another when in reality WE are hating one another while they pull the strings becoming massively wealthy off of our chaos they create.
I do have to disagree with 2666 being a “nazi story”. Bolaño writes often about fascists and nazis, but his work is very strongly against fascism as a whole.
I think it's a deliberate joke they are playing on gullible celebrities. A way of showing the world that celebrities are clueless and that they just jump on hype to try and stay relevant. It's clearly racist but I don't think they are racist but it's definitely grounded in racism so they can make the joke better. When this comes out it will humiliate celebrities and so called influencers. That is what I think their goal is, to make all the celebs get humiliated.
Man. I thought I was online a lot, but this is just out of my reality. Dude, at this point I'm just amazed by how deep the iceberg goes. Like, all this effort to sneak some dog whistles into NFTs? I'm happy they're using their efforts for this, because these guys seem like they have the sheer determination to be supervillains and *actually* take over the world or some shit if they ever get bored wasting their powers trolling.
If it's a troll they better have receipts that it's meant as a troll. I'd say the most convincing things are the logo, the price tags with the 14 and 88, but also the thing about the prisoner is too convenient. The price itself is pretty interesting because while it can just mean random people are setting random prices it can also mean those randoms are showing they've figured it out.
Numbers are a BIG thing with them. It's so they can put them in plain sight but still deny it. Out of all the symbols they use. Numbers are the biggest thing. As it makes them look smart.
ah yes guilty until proven innocent at its best. assume the worst of people with zero evidence because thats just how you roll I guess its a troll. its a great troll, its terrible as anything else and people that smart dont do things badly.
@@xelloskaczor5051 Yeah they are not nazis, just massive trolls, who managed to pull an amazing stunt, I was a bit worried at the start but everything checks out if you pay a little of attention later. The funniest part is how they make fun of the people that defend them, that one is hilarious.
In my experience with 4chan trolling. They only use this symbolism because it sets people off so hard. They also end up getting surrounded by actual nazis who think they've found like minds. Whom they then troll even harder. And what greater troll than getting a nazi to pay tens of thousands of dollars to signal they see the symbolism and think they'll be recruited or part of the in crowd. When really their gonna stay sitting at home wasting money on stupid jpegs
If that's the ethics you run off of, then also keep in mind 'do unto others as you would do unto yourself'. It's vice versa. You treat people like crap, be racist or fascist, and people will treat you like garbage. Trust but verify, and respect but do not condone. Slavery was a belief, and there's a reason we stopped respecting that.
And yet people still want to avoid it or pretend otherwise. They keep trying to look at things in an isolated case in order to try and justify it even though the whole video is about a vast, sprawling picture. It's a shame that so much of this comment section alone adds fuel to that fire and if anything proves how far their influence has gone.
@@DerelictSong I guess me having my own sort of experience with these sorts of things and these kinds of people led me to knowing full well what they're like, so I already got it, simpler than it may appear at first. Most other people don't usually see that. TL;DR for the people who do stuff like this, they're usually severely mentally ill but do everything in their power to make it seem like they are a savant instead. In their path to doing so, they probably do gain some good level of intelligence, but their unchecked mental illness that only gets worse means this intelligence gets shuffled and misguided.
He's a hack, Remember his video about Noel Deyzel being bad for the fitness community even though he's honest about his PED use and makes good informative content for beginners? Philion can't be trusted about anything
"most massive reach i have ever seen" Boy that's pretty ridiculous to say. A couple coincidences, sure. But when you know as much about how these kinds of messages and groups operate, this is pretty standard for white supremacist trolling and messaging.
@@ghulaa Monkeys paw. A very common fable. But for some reason the guy in the video is relating monkeys to black people... really makes you think. Maybe its the people who see racism in everything all the time who are the true racist and are projecting their own thoughts onto others.
The game site puzzles shows that they are excellent with puzzles and hidden messages, which makes me think it's all on purpose, those guys are way too damn smart for all this to be coincidence.
Lmao at Asmon being like "thankfully you have me here as my guide" and then he continues to say "I've never heard of this" for everything that's said :D
Don't you think that means there could be some bullshit like "cowabunga" being racist? Not only is that used everywhere, but that meme is just a universal "Oh, so you have chosen violence" kind of meme.
If a Internet Journeyman kind of people like Asmon can get caught off guard, what about common people? This troll was so deliberate that even you need a help from a good cypher to figure it out.
The problem with this video is that phillion failed to realize that the vast majority of people, upon hearing about this type of elaborate trolling do not feel anger but instead interest. Most people aren't going to post the # that he wanted, and tbh this only solidified the legend of the club. Can any of you imagine it, a club that is in plain sight, racist, undecipherable, explained, but still untouched
I think that's kinda his goal though, not necessarily to create outrage, but to make an interesting documentary and that's what he did. That's what a lot of producers want and do.
Internet puzzle freaks are weird. Like, in Elite Dangerous years ago they had a hidden Guardian base in a trailer. A guy found it by calculating the positions of stars (on a fictional ingame planet in an entirely different solar system light-years from Earth) that found him the exact location. The math involved was...staggering. mind you, the image where he found the stars was a still capture of a 2 second bit of video
@@TehBananaBread Neither do you. You don't have to be forced into something for it be a scam. Street hustlers for example don't force you into playing their games, it's still is a scam/fraud.
@@marlo3898 If i put a selfmade tshirt on etsy for 5000 bucks and somebody buys them, did i scam them? No i didnt. Stupidity and fomo doesnt mean i deliberately went out of my way to scam people. Those street artists are deliberately setting up with the intent to scam people. BAYC is actually the opposite of a scam. It probably started as hate/satire/troll culture but after getting a lot of sales they started to take it serious and made a brand around it. Get lost.
@@marlo3898 Scams are based around the fact that you deliberately mislead people to gain a monetary gain (or something that has value). Every ape they sold for a mint price of 180 dollars is still worth 80k. How exactly did Yugalabs scam people by giving them 80k of value for 180 dollars? (not even including the 20k bonus air drop)
@@CypherDND dont take another man's bet. Its technically winnable but you are a sucker among millions. Vegas was built on "technicality". Why are you defending 3 card hustlers, bud?
The problem with ironic racism is that it attracts actual racists and eventually the true believers crowd out the ironic trolls. This is literally the story of 4chan.
Is it? I think the problem is the exact opposite, it's that it attracts people who are even more ironic and incapable of insincerity, up to the point where people are buried so far under irony that they don't even know what reality is any more.
@@Nukestarmaster You just declscribed basically the same thing. The issue is when the result of trolling racism and actual racism are the same (spreading racist ideology that leads to worse attitudes toward and treatment for groups of people), then the two are functionally no different and intent ceases to matter.
Racism is human nature it is a question of whether society can rise above it. Only the West has tried and it seems to failing apart after a century long attempt.
The 3DS is one of the best selling systems of all time link between worlds was one of the stand out best reviewed Zelda games. I do agree with a lot of the other points, but even if this game was obscure, I do think a nerd would name their company after an obscure game
@@Xiatter wow yeah barely over 4 million meanwhile 75 million 3ds were sold so that’s super surprising to me but still my point about obscurity still stands. I feel like the nerdier you are the more obscure your references. My current dnd character is based off two random words from the ancient language in the eragon book series that aren’t even said in the books they are just part of the dictionary
@@mikeespinoza5733 yeah but it isnt even obscure. The game sold a ton of copies and yuga is a fairly popular zelda character, just not as popular as ganon or link. Like if you have watched or interacted with other zelda fans you know yuga lmao
Bro, it sounds like celebrities accepting these NFTs didn’t have any basic parenting like “don’t take things from strangers”, “if it’s too good, it’s probably too good to be true” and “the only free cheese is in the mousetrap.”
"How can so many Celebrities get hoodwinked by this?" Is it really that hard to believe; that vain and materialistic egotists would accept free merchandise under the guise of promotional purposes?
I think my favorite part is when they go into the puzzle game site. Because everything before that seems like a huge reach, and then they show the complexity in the puzzles and it's like "oh, these guys could completely know what they're doing".
Exactly what I thought
The whole puzzle section just screams 4chan to me. Anytime you see a very elaborate puzzle like that with a very stupid or troll-ish conclusion, it's usually them.
@@Hzuuuu weaponized autism in a nutshell
You are correct, sir. However, everything he said is still a HUGE reach. The reality is, the person who made the video latched on to ONE thing, the word ape.
They hired a team. Chill
Imagine if you were being charged with a crime, and every time a piece of evidence against you was brought up, your lawyer just kept screaming "REEEACH"
But that is basically what they do. In a bit more sophisticated way though.
this would fly out of the court immediately since all of this is circumstantial evidence and no hard proof. Circumstantial evidence is indirect evidence that does not, on its face, prove a fact in issue but gives rise to a logical inference that the fact exists. maybe in civil court this could work but criminal court would need someone to admit to something, a swastika tattoo or one of those guys saying sieg heil on video. Criminal court does have higher standards due to the go to prison part of it.
Amber Heard's lawyers will definitely do that
@@0bomberjack0 You do realize that most court cases don't have legitimate hard evidence right? Beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't mean video evidence, it often means enough circumstantial evidence that the likelihood of everything being a coincidence isn't worth considering. That's why the wording is beyond a reasonable doubt and not any doubt, because there will almost always be some tiny chance
@@rheawelsh4142 thanks for repeating what i said you really added to the discussion. The different levels of proof are needed for civil and criminal cases which are two seperate courts. In civil it's mostly about money while criminal can make you a fellon and get you into prison for the rest of your life and that's where the different levels of proof come into play. Usually judges know the difference but some don't cause they're bad at their job.
Honestly, the fact that they made people trade jpegs for millions of dollars is way funnier. The hidden racist references aren't even that imressive at that point.
Right? The racism is sort of just side flavour
yeah the fucked up a lot. realse date was a mess. ofc you take 20th of april over 30th
Exactly. People are digging but the gold is on the surface. Imagine selling a literal jpeg for millions of $$$
a link to a JPG
Bro lost me when he said a big nerd wouldn't pick an obscure character to name their company after. That's the nerdiest thing.
EXACTLY!! Rofl that’s peak nerd, it’s flexing how they are so nerdy that nerd about something not all nerds know about!
@halvorson566 exactly when I heard it I immediately thought back to my 13-year-old self, making gamertags referencing shit only the biggest nerds would get
Palantir has perfected this. They even named one of their products Gotham
"how many times does it take?":
"Once is an occurrence, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern, and patterns are worth exploring" -a wise man
Sounds like the argument for every QAnon conspiracy lmao.
I like that Quote. Who is this Wise man?
I commented the og quote then noticed this, this is a version of a James Bond quote made by goldfinger
@@lennysmileyface, qanon is false and it’s been proven when Biden won.
This is a false equivalency you’re trying to push here
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Asmongold at the start: "I'll spot any kind of crypto racism"
Asmongold throughout: "I have never heard of this"
@@davidsantiago7808 fr, you can accidentally use imagery that ends up having bad connotations, but the logo is way too fucking specific to be an accident
@@davidsantiago7808 Those are just species of monkeys...technically it is racist because it refers to race....
And even so..who cares. Calling someone a name doesnt change anything in the real world.
Buy it or dont buy it...but not everything needs a racist lens.
BTW - Hiring black people and woman under guise of "Equity Hiring"...is racist/sexist.
But you dont care about that....
These Ism's are everywhere. If you want to attack them please be consistent and not act like some blinded horse lead by societies emotional carrot.
@@Pihsrosnec and also they could just change it, but they didn’t. The 18 teeth is so intentional
@@davidsantiago7808 all
@@p0lish 🤡"aLL"
I am not going to stop wearing my retro 80s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles shirts because they say that.
Cowabunga it is then.
@@mikeespinoza5733hell yea brother
Everything is a racissssmsss and supremacissssmsms
Cowabunga, dude.
What if the video was the troll?
The title "Alt Right" means nothing to me anymore. Thanks to media accusing everyone of being "alt right."
@@SemtexZero He said that the title "alt right" means nothing to him anymore. Thanks to media accusing everyone of being "alt right".
@@jojolafrite90😂
As intended.... the fire rises
Everything is alt right
Also, when you can accuse every race to be white supremacists it loses all meaning. "Oh, just because you're black you think you can't be a white supremacist?" Yes, exactly, and you're insane if you think otherwise.
The interview with those ladies with the bored ape lady giving weird circle running answers is one of the creepiest interviews I've ever seen. Is that actually real? For real?
Gave me Amber Heard vibes.
@@greenfroggood2392 "They have a background in writing, like both of them are authors so, like, they're creatives, like, they're not academic people, they're like, creatives, and so this is like a creation for them"
Bitch was like a broken record in these clips.
i think she was high on cocaine. just my opinion but she was being very grandiose.
'creepiest'?
This is why your side piece should never be given a job in public relations in your organization.
I never connected the dots to racism before, but I always believed that the name "bored apes" is a mockery making fun of the buyers. The buyers are the real bored apes.
And they all use them as pfps… they definitely are bored apes
you didnt watch the video did you
What's really funny is the left who's ideology has killed more people in the last century than every religion, ideology combined is selling people on how terrible the right is. It's beyond laughable
@@thatherton I said "I never connected the dots" not "I can't connect the dots"
Then the Ape escape series must be the most racist games ever made
Wait. I’m not sure but
I thought Japanese version 2chan was way older than 4chan.
I’m from Japan by the way.
The name 2chan(Channel 2) comes from , back in the days(Analog TV era)
Japanese Channel wasn’t used by broadcast and we mostly used channels 2 for Line in (like connecting nintendo games or video).
New age started to grow and start to get bored against same old
broadcast TV.
So 2chan(2チャン) had meaning of frustration of old type media.
And most of the Emoji culture cane from 2chan.
Things like text base Emojis like
( ´∀｀)人(´∀｀ )
( ´Д`)y━･~~ smoking
And yes 2chan went through many problems
similar to 4chan
Sorry if my English doesn’t make sense.
Thank you Nippon Anon
7/10 english
Thanks you based OP
Thanks for the information
I think the game was the smoking gun. The game was the proof that they were willing to think deeply, favor cryptic puzzles and use hidden meanings. That makes all the other reaches plausible, along with it being created by writers but then having almost no "story" told explicitly.
Everybody's eyes being burned out is harking to Ezikiels chariot. They're being blatant in their messaging about how stupid people are to fly too close to the sun. With themselves playing the sun in the story. It's a disease but people who do this shit cant stop. They're committed.
This is a great point here
I agree but then again I'm asking what is the benefit for the creators?
Pushing their Nazi agenda with symbolism and messages so well hidden that 99.9999% of people can't even understand it...
15 min in, ts feels like a complete conspiracy.
(48:35, what the hell is ts)
@@PychPmpa reach, a big one
There is no way to watch any documentary in youtube without the creator clipping in Asmongold into the story.
I have come to known this as Peace. If it does not happen, I am not.
This might be the time to say “chill and surf the kali yuga”
He hasn’t logged off since 2001. You’re going to run into him somewhere.
I think its really mostly just marketing. Put a big RUclipsr in there, chances are someone from their community sees it and tells them to watch it cause they its funny.
If you put in 5 of them and at least one of them reacts to it, thats another 100k views on your video the next day.
@@undsowei1erundsofor1 But the video he is promoting here is literally hidden from the platform in this case. Go ahead, try to find it. This one is probably just Asmon wanting to make this viewed.
There's no way the people who made those "puzzles" can be accidently doing any of this.
except they didn't even make the puzzle they paid a legitimate company that makes these type of things to do it, easily verifiable
@@kurtlee3198 they still would've had final say and creative control
@@kurtlee3198
Uhh…that doesn’t really PROVE anything other than the possibility that the company they contracted to do the “puzzles” were in on the troll OR BAYC had final say in what the solutions would be and all the “hidden meanings” and shit slipped completely under the contracted studio’s radar.
@@kurtlee3198 but they have someone checking everything got to be😭
I don't understand why the video needed an in-depth walkthrough of the puzzle, to me it seemed like filler. Very little of it was relevant to the thesis statement of the video, and mostly it just boiled down to "it repeatedly makes references to primates, and racists like to use primate-related slurs."
For myself, some of the evidence presented early in the video was strong, but then it seemed to devolve into a gisp gallop of sorts, and I found myself less convinced by the time the second poll was run. The argument, "how many points do you need to be convinced" struck me as a red flag; it's a generally wrong-headed approach to take, because what should matter is the quality of the evidence, or how the available evidence fits into a pattern of logic, not how many bullet points of "evidence" and loose associations you can throw at the wall. This is one of the ways people fool themselves into believing in more far-fetched conspiracy theories.
So you can make the point that ape/primate imagery/language/pseudo-science has a robust history of being used in a racist way. That is a very good point to make. But then regardless of what the intentions were behind choosing apes as the theme, you would naturally expect the project to have other ape/primate-related elements, so for those instances to be considered as new/separate pieces of evidence for the argument, there should be some really compelling additional context pertinent to each additional "point" being presented; if the additional context is a stretch, it should be given minimal weight, since we've already considered and assigned some weight to the general "apes are associated with racism" point.
The biggest troll is that people paid real money for worthless digital images.
The strange thing is that Deng Xiaoping actually died in 1997. (The Nerd is shocked) The game... predicted the future. In fact, 1997 was the year the United Kingdom returned the rule of Hong Kong back to China. The movie, from '94, forecast this in the tagline: "99 years of British rule are about to come to an end... Hong Kong will never be the same." The movie stars Robert Patrick, the T-1000 from Terminator 2: Judgment Day, and Judgment Day takes place... in 1997. Part of Deng Xiaoping's ear is sort of cut off, like when Mike Tyson bit off a piece of Evander Holyfield's ear in 1997. The car, I'm willing to bet, is a Mercedes Benz, in which Princess Diana died in '97. And what was the year Coca-Cola launched Surge? '97. And it's no coincidence all my surge protectors were made in China. Rebooting the entire game after you die? Just like Symphony of the Night. '97. Jackie Chan, uh, Rumble in the Bronx, uh, the Bronx, New York City, the Big Apple...(gasps) The year Steve Jobs returned to Apple in '97. The unstoppable, unrelenting song is called I Love Beijing Tiananmen, also known as I Love Peking Tiananmen. Peking Duck is a famous duck dish from Beijing. (gasps) And Scrooge McDuck had his 50th Anniversary in '97! The game was such a titanic failure. (gasps) Titanic, the movie from '97! Why was this game's sole purpose to direct us to the number 97? Huh. Like the NGC-97 galaxy in the constellation of Andromeda, the princess Andromeda who was chained naked to a rock to be sacrificed to a monster. Like Princess Leia and Jabba in Return of the Jedi. (gasps) The Special Edition of Star Wars in '97! Oh, fuck, we're back again. Man, I was just trying to get a final answer here, but I went full circle, like the song that keeps looping. A game that keeps repeating. Maybe it's all about a cycle, an endless cycle. Old, shitty games that become new again! The past becomes the future, birth and death, on and on, it's the cycle of life! The game is the meaning of life! And the thing that keeps life going: reproduction...and food...which becomes shit.
They should also mention that there is a long history of writers and artist's trolling people. The biggest troll of all time is scientology. It was 2 sci fi authors making a bet that one couldn't create an absurd religion and actually get people to follow
no fucking way. scientology isn't just a dumb bet between two writers is it?
That's lame
@@NickKrige I agree, scientology was simply a very successful attempt at creating a cult Worked like a charm.
@@NickKrige Christianity here... Hold my beer.
@@nilionth Reality is often stranger than fiction, as they say
No doubt it started out as a troll but it just snowballed into something so much bigger and ended up being a profit making machine. I don't doubt the creators never expected it to blow up as much as it did.
yeah, for the business the neo-nazi image is not the best. So they will let loose
Or and there is a possibility, the guy who made the video is lying to you.
@@gundamnit3594 OMEGALUL
@@gundamnit3594 You are aware that you can check whether what he said is true in under 5 minutes, yes?
You know that there are tons of sites that archive 4chan posts, yes?
You know that you can search those sites for what that guy claims is 4chan-lingo, yes?
Because I did.
Which is why I know that he is lying.
@@LuvboneX nice troll name dude, Adolf and Neumann together, bravo
man i love the relationship you have with your dad, makes me wish the same. With all my heart i hope you two live long and be happy
Update via wikipedia:
In April 2023, federal judge John F. Walter of the United States District Court for the Central District of California issued a summary judgment in Yuga Labs' favor, with damages to be determined at trial.[71] The judge ruled that Ripps and his partner Jeremy Cahen had committed "false designation of origin" and "cybersquatting" and that Yuga Labs was entitled to an injunction and damages.[71][72] Following the court trial, Judge Walter ruled that Yuga Labs was entitled to recover all $1.3 million of Ripps' and Cahen's profits from the sale of the copycat NFTs, plus $200,000 in damages for cybersquatting, plus attorneys' fees; the ruling was made public in October 2023.[73]
Surfing the Kali Yuga TO THE END
LOL
Based judge.
Classic example of Juice juicing juice.
Team Yuga are juice.
Ripps is a juice.
Judge is a juice.
This is the orange juice world order. Praise the vitamin C
So nothing refuting their theory.
as a graphic design student when I make a logo, I literally make at least 6-10 variations of it. There's absolutely no way these guys accidentally made their logo identical to that Nazi one. Like no shot. It's like asmon said, without the necessary knowledge you won't understand a lot of things. For me personally, I don't have to look past that to know it is on purpose
Yeah, and the ragged circle outline design is especially weird. I've seen like, the letter stamp circle with the wavy outline but the jaggedness of their outline is smth I've never seen anywhere before, people usually either use like one of the -gons, a straight up circle or the wavy circle perimeter like in stamps, the only 2 logos I've seen with the rough circle outline on their logo are the two logos shown in this video.
And there is absolutely no way that the national animal for both the United States and na zi germany is an eagle... Like, with all the different animals around the world, what are the odds they would both just randomly choose eagle?
Chances are miniscule. Clearly there is a connection between USA and nazism
Meme? what if they did it on purpose? it's edgy, they have our attention dont they?
No one thought they did, and you being a graphic designer was entirely irrelevant. Lol
The eye sockets are the most definitive giveaway, of course taking the text into consideration too lol
"It's easier to fool somebody than it is to convince them that they've been fooled" true words! I remember when i snapped an old friend of mine back to reality with this quote when he was misled by a girl.
The problem is that, a lot of the time, people who use this phrase haven't truly acknowledged the underlying implications for them. The moment you accept something as true because "it came from a trustworthy source", you've opened up the possibility that you're the one being fooled. That being said, this isn't a criticism at all, but more of a reminder. It's literally impossible for anyone to function in the world without accepting most things as true that they cannot 100% individually confirm, so it's inevitable that a lot, if not most, of our beliefs are incorrect. I don't know if that made sense, but it clicks and my head and hopefully it does to anyone who reads it that might be having too much confidence in their ability to differentiate between true and false based solely on another person's words and their own intuition.
snap back to reality, ope there goes gravity
Starscream and Megatron 😎🦖
Taking trolling seriously gives trolls more power
They don't have to be racist in order to troll using racist imagery. Especially if they're (semi-) nihilists or want to get genuine racists to give them money.
Despite the context and intentions, this whole cryptic puzzle thing is quite impressive to be honest. Reminds me of the Cicada 3301 event from 10 years ago
just came on to say the same thing, only using Human Pet as an example. Those ARGs were amazingly well put together.
Respect for the cryptography 🔐
@@laneswerve Even if they aren't using it for racist ends the fact they're using if for trash NFT bullshit it's still being used for evil which is disappointing...
yeah i love the cicada stuff all this puzzle into puzzle into puzzle stuf is amazing and blows my mind
There was another project called Genopets where they did something alike
(cipher and google geolocation) to find the answer under a certain amount of time to be able to access a key to mint an NFT. I've participated in all of them, and it was challenging AF but so fun and rewarding!
The most wholesome thing is Asmon's dad calling in. Good God I love that his Dad tunes into the stream.
And then reminisces how he provided his son with a spiked kaiser, bike helmet…
Then asmon mentioning that he put a bunch of nails sticking through his bike helmet…
Then mentioning it might not be safe to use…
Then implying that he still has the helmet…
💀 *I M P L I C A T E D* 💀
Eh. Ive seen people claim trees, milk, mathematics and liking Dolly Parton songs are all "racist". It wouldnt surprise me if the biggest edgelord troll ever came out of 4chan. This dude starts by saying trolling is an art there. It seems like he ignored his own warning.
As a serious gaming nerd, the Zelda explanation for yuga is really good. The theme of the game is 3d to 2d. It’s a clever name.
I thought the same, that name makes sense and is clever for what it’s being used for 🤷♀️
The ‘other option’ given in the video was a massive reach and made far less sense lol
i think one of the biggest tells that something is going on is the whole puzzle game itself. it shows that they are extremely well versed in cryptic messaging and hiding thing in plain sight. kinda makes me wonder what other types of messaging might be hidden in the bored apes NFTs.
I think it shows how smart these anons can be, and how they are figuring out more and more how to shepherd the masses, and even manipulate the "elites" of society
@@Xemptuous Oh god. We are heading into the world of Metal Gear Solid, only instead of arms dealers, the AI controlling everything will have been created by the hacker known as 4chan.
@@Xemptuous Or... the more likely reality, it just shows how good they are at trolling and getting people riled up about "something" that is actually nothing, and how so many people like yourself get roped into it. 4chan has done very elaborate trolls before, but they're just that, trolls. And obviously Anons are "smart"... Anonymous started out on 4chan, as well as other fringe hacker groups, it's a HUGE community, many of which are cyber geeks, obviously they'd have skills in technology here and there.
Cryptography games aren't rare at all. Lots of games, Escape from Tarkov for example, have had them as promotional contests. Most of the puzzles give you the cipher too so it's not that much of a puzzle.
@@gelatinousturncoat It's bog standard fare to anyone who has participated in or was otherwise involved with some ARG really. Some of the imagery and weirdly specific namedropping does raise an eyebrow, but not much more.
Honestly with how elaborate all those puzzles were I’d reconsider calling anything a reach. That’s was pretty insane and I wouldn’t put it past them to make things so damn obscure they’re often mistaken as just a “reach”
I love your profile pic
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I'm sure Anastasia loved those hexes.
Did anyone think about her?
Yea I was firmly in the "this sounds like conspiracy theory nonsense" camp until seeing how elaborate and intricately designed that puzzle was. Hard for me to believe the guys who came up with that puzzle put no hidden meaning into their initial designs.
The aperol thing was silly. The video could be cut down by at least 10 minutes
This hole thing is total BS
For the record: Dude said "welcome to America, welcome to the real world of Virginia"
funny how most people are not doubting this but will call the pizza thing with children in DC "circumstantial evidence"
But that DC stuff is just an Alt-Right "Dog Whistle"
Usually the ones making claims of Dog Whistles are the ones with the Agendas
Further proof of their trolling having a point, adding to that, why is their stuff treated as a crime? They are literally being edgy and as their rep said, they are not white, and yet you don't see this rage against true abuse by the average international corpo
The guy of the video claims "they took our money" when in fact they didn't have anything taken from them, just mindlessly raging against what they are told to rage
Comet ping pong thing was real. James Alefantis' ig was disgusting
lol I bet you think the election was stolen
...people literally went there, it doesn't have a basement. Circumstantial evidence? Non-existent, more like. More than one person has tried too, didn't one guy bust down a door just to find some old cash registers and cleaning equipment.
At the end in the interview he mentions where the logo shows up with the jagged edges... but he fails to mention its on the front page of the official website. The logo in the footer is actually a transparent PNG, but you can't tell because its black on a black background. If you look at the image alone, it has the same jagged edge. Hidden in plain sight.
For me, those jagged/rippled edges of the circular logo were the clincher. When you combine everything else with the fact they created this logo, added a SKULL to it right where the SS' logo has the skull, with the text in the same places on both logos, you can no longer say there's nothing here. Come on. How many round logos do you remember seeing with rippled/jagged edges? I can't think of a single one. That's when I took everything else seriously, and after two views, imo, there's zero percent chance this wasn't completely planned and designed. I don't know or even think these guys are white supremacists, but they're definitely trolls.
@@willd.8040 Of course they're trolls but the implication is that they're alt-right white supremacist nazis. Why was this video made and why is it doing the rounds on Twitch? You know they use these platforms to influence peolpe and to propagate naratives.
@@willd.8040 The whole jagged edge emblem is complete bs. Nazis or Prussians never had jagged imagery or paraphernalia, ever. What was more common was just the skull itself. When it was as an emblem, it was ALWAYS just circular or oval, not jagged. You will never find the jagged edge in any Nazi or Prussian army uniforms, rings, lockets, books, imagery, etc, because that is not how that emblem looks. I do not know where the author of that video found those images with the jagged edge, but as a WW2 buff myself, I've NEVER seen that logo displayed like that in my entire life. It certainly was not worn like that by the SS or the Totenkompf division.
@@tlanimass952 Im pretty sure new age neo nazis use jagged egdes and more metal adjacent imagery a lot atleast here in germany thats quite common. obviously no one is saying those kinds of styles were used in actual nazi uniforms back in the day.
@@tlanimass952 You missed the point.
The jagged nazi emblem was used on the internet before NFTs were a thing. Then it was copied by the bored ape guys.
Nobody claimed that it was used back in WW2 on uniforms.
Asmon might have the coolest Dad ever. He even watches the streams! There's parents out there right now, with 12 year olds. That don't show as much interest in what their kid likes doing. As much as asmons Dad does, with asmon being a grown ass man! Respect dude!
Nerd
"There 'is' parents out there right now".
Find the error and you pass 1st grade.
@@ocrapo9327 You correcting a RUclips comments grammar is literally what a 1st grader would do lmao.
@@ocrapo9327 Cor ain't you clever mister random internet guy. Trust me we are all really impressed.
@@ocrapo9327 1inchpunch is lying. Nobody thinks it's impressive
To be FAIR, Snoop Dogg has never turned down a paying gig. If you think he is a knowledgeable about everything he has been in, you would be wrong.
The interview had the weirdest air to it, everything the ceo was saying sounded like a blatant lie… you’d think she’d have a better composure in the position shes in
That's how you know that man was dedicated to making a good video, he was on top of it and ready to go at a moment's notice for an interview covering it's content; well done.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 idk how anyone can read what you said and know what you are talking about. That's 4/10 writing
@@vagabondwastrel2361 All videos are premade, unless you count being live as a video
Good video? All he did was waste my time on vague theories and sketchy connections with puzzles as time filler to give it a more documentary like length. FU Philon, you aint got nothing but far reaches or shit that could be explained as 4 chan inside troll humor, who gives a shit even if they got some nazi sympathies which i doubt seeing the group, it's not like they directly give money or buy weapons for nazis on a massive scale. We got the EU and US doing that right now for Ukraine. Now the Biden laptop.... that is one tasty conspiracy "theory". Shit one of the experts is a artistic (probably hedgefund) guy that made a few memes, wow! Philon brings out the big guns! I find the idea that Philon acts like he is in a Dan Brown novel by solving some monkey themed puzzles on a website where he gets monkey related answers where he looks for the most sinister correlations as explanations expecting the answers to finally bring down an evil multi billion dollar operation HILARIOUS!! Philon should stick to nattie or not like content.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 As I said, all videos are premade on youtube
@@vagabondwastrel2361 the video was uploaded a week ago. No shit it was made before the interview lol what point are you trying to make? It's not like Asmongold watched a live video.
32:02
i actually remember seeing that photo studying history. I'm 99% sure (and this is the worst part) that, in that photo, the man is actually staring at the hands of his daughter, who had been cut off to punish him.
It's a sick world
You're right, I remember that photo as well.
Speaking as a father, id do everything in my power to hurt the people who did this to my child. It would become my life's mission to get revenge.
That's England and USA MoD.
@@mohammedsiddiqui3062Not saying you're in the right or wrong but what do you mean? The executioner? The one giving the order? The higher up (Cartel boss, warlord, general)? Everyone?
@@DamianSzajnowski they call him John Wick now
They dont even know where hittlers bones are let alone the real day he died
"Everything is sexist, everything is racist, and you have to point it out!" - Asmongoloid 2023.
Props to Zack for a great interview, especially on-the-spot like that. He's such a professional. Great video.
Literally, asking legit thought-out questions
How is he so good at interviews without preparation ?
this is asmongold, zack's brother
This man broke down the video extremely well and then with a surprise ending to interview the creator of the video…..Your the man, what a journey this was
@@ginorvdw here to help 🤙
Meanwhile XQC's reaction : Waaaiiitt whaaatt with confused face for an hour.
Philion has a great channel
@@DorahellmonI’ve always really struggled to understand what people like about XQC. He seems genuinely kind of stupid and never seems to understand what he’s seeing or listening to…his takes are ridiculous a lot of the time and based on a complete misunderstanding of the information given. He adds little/no input to the things he watches mainly just saying “whaaaaaat, no waaay” etc on repeat
He seems unable to grasp even the simplest of information🤦🏼♀️
Does he do something else that people enjoy other than just reactions…like gaming or something? Cuz if not I really don’t understand how he has so many subscribers
"Oh no! a bunch of internet trolls use Nazi slogans and racist memes!"
Seriously, first-world problems.
If I learned one thing on the internet years ago it was that most of the people I'm being told are bad.... aren't bad. And that I'm being told they're bad because bad people want me to think they are
I think it's so wholesome how his dad was watching the stream
I have not watched much of Asmund but the relationship with his father is really cool. Seems like his dad is really interested in his son and the things he is into. I hope me and my kids can have that relationship when they are older.
I hope so for my future kids as well.
I was home over the holiday break and I was doing dishes at my parent’s house and watching a podcast while doing so (at like 25% iPhone speaker volume lol) and my dad comes over from a different part of the house and rudely/coldly says, “Turn that off.”
Of course, I ask, “Why?” And he just responds with, “It’s boring. Who cares about their lives?”
Keep in mind I’m a 33 year old dude that lives across the country from my parents and is married… it’s not like he’s trying to police what I’m watching lol. He was just being a dick.
Yeah I wish my father was like that.
@@user-dj9iu2et3rnot really being a dick, hes just telling you that you can do something more productive than listen to some dudes talk about their lives on youtube
Good ol asmund
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The reason why the troll works because everything is fake to begin with
I feel like the ending of the video is confirmation that we’ve all just been trolled by this video lol
Honestly this was a really good video by asmongold covering a really good video by Philion.
Huge respect for both for having a discussion on this as well!
The fact that he uses the words "alt right" unironically and believes KEK is a racist dogwhistle should let you know not to take this guy seriously.
@@catra195 alt-right was a term coined by Richard Spencer... You realize that when everyone points to an obvious Nazi being an obvious Nazi and you make these kinds of statements in their defense it ruins any credibility you have right?
@@aslemartinsen5284 this is hardly digging "deep" or stretching "long" can we be fucking honest
"I've been on the internet for 20 years. I recognize them all. (Racist imagery)"
Asmon summed up the internet.
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Definitely standard issue for the internet 😂😭
@@Starius2 I’ve been on the internet for 20 years, discrimination is standard issue and expected 💯
@@Starius2 denial
@@Starius2 ""BUT MUH" "Nothing like a lazy trope". Oh the Ironing
It's beautiful, because, right at the beginning, it immediately manipulates the viewer. When he says "how many do you need ? I need just one." It's good, because : with his one, he anchors a low number in our head, so the viewers would think "well, one is a bit too few, let's says 5 or 10". The second is : in the vast sea of the human cesspool that is 4chan, you are bound to find dozens if not hundreds of racist comments, especially by today's standards. What matters is : what is the percentage ? Sure, apes can be considered racist against blacks for some reason, but what about frogs, dogs, cats, bread, clouds, etc that memes are made of ?
As an analogy, it's like saying : "I can find 20 Muslims that were terrorists, therefore Islam is all about terrorism" or "I can find 20 black people that were thieves, so all black people are thieves". That number 20 means jack shit due to the vastness of the entire population.
honestly I think they put all of this in intentionally and I love it
The geniuses of 4CHAN are civilizations last hope. The guy does not understand why no-moderation increases both creativity and determining truth. The Yuga is the Sanscrit term for age, so it could be light age or dark age, only Kali Yuga is dark age as Kali is the goddess of death.
What people need to understand is that 4Chan does work with layers upon layers upon layers of crap like this. That's literally the bloody point, being so absurd and so obscure that normal people just shrug it off as "Pfft that's ridiculous" because yes it is and that's the point. That's why exposing them as racists or of using racist conotations and such has always been so hard.
thats so bloody reuw m8
or you lefties simply make stuff up 😅
praise kek
Oh no some losers called them racists, how will they recover
Oh yeah, a simple political version of this is something like "forced bussing" or inner city management, somethings that sounds like boring city crap but really deal with racist shit pushed by Republicans. Which 4Chan took a look at that, looked at the KKK, and white nationalists, and said, we can make it more obscure
im still blown away they made an entire game with puzzles and messeges all throughout. Thats some dedication, also, the hat with the skull on it that the monkey was wearing was the dead giveaway for me in the rolling stones poster not just the monkey hand
Deathshead isn't a nazi symbol though its a symbol for elite/cavalry units of the time thats still used today
The deathshead isn't a purely German symbol or a racist symbol,its an international symbol thats been used or is used by damn near every nation on earth
Its a symbol of elite cavalry or elite units or a symbol of danger
And if the Totenkof IS racist, then the USMC and US Army are racist, the German army is racist, the Portuguese army is racist, the polish are racist, the Royal Air Force is racist, and pretty much every US Cavalry unit is racist as they ALL use the Totenkof to this very day
@@nicholasbrown668 again, all these points make a line. A pattern is a pattern, and when all of these widly different points have two possible patterns have 2 possible interpretations, where one of them is nazi, its worth thinking about. I know analogies are risky but: its like meeting someone and they have 500 red flags, would you give them the benefit of the doubt?
@@gaminggaming.6071 ok then all those points of western militaries using the Totenkof make a line therefore they are racist and nazis
why does bro say macaque like that lmao
"less likely to be racist if they are jews"
well a lot changed in a year.....
they are the most racist.
explain...? I'm out of the loop on... everything
@@SuperSpider9098 there is literally a turkish guy in the team man, like do you guys still believe this? it was a troll a pretty big one
@@denizthebig what?
I was asking for an explanation, idek what you're talking about, this seems unrelated to my question
lol, yeah i mean they constantly defend their actions through their race, its bullshit, like how much can you get away with because your race "technically" cannot be racist.
It's absolutely a troll. And I'd argue that little to none of the accusations are reaches, considering if we look at the puzzle we know that they are incredibly smart. They're not stupid, smart to a point that it's hard to believe there'd be any coincidences within it all. With all the information together it all seems purposeful. Carefully calculated and crafted by people who knew exactly what they were doing before they even started BAYC. They aren't being called racists. Or nazis. Or any of that. They're being called trolls, trolls that pulled off the biggest troll. And of course they wont admit it because of how much money they're making.
Good take. Just a bunch of white people taking advantage of the new crypto tech hidden behind mystery. But what brought them together was making fun of 'apes' lol. Wholesome
That's the point. Individually most of the accusations are reaches, but when looking at all of them together, there is no way you can claim it's a coincidence.
@@rayquaza1245 reminds me of Fleming's quote from 007 "once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three time is enemy action." Except in this case it would be "three time is trolling"
@@rayquaza1245 you can though. Have you seen literally any other conspiracy theory they all have similar connections and if you look hard enough you can find connections like that with anything (this has been tested). Ancient aliens and the moon landing conspiracy use similar tactics. Not saying it's not true but none of this counts as proof in science or law. You can say it's likely but not proven.
At what point does trolling become embracing? Just trolling hasn't been a valid defense for a couple years now. These people are spreading Nazi symbolism to people who don't think it's a joke at all. They see it as an acceptance and endorsement of a disgusting view of life.
It's beyond laughable you don't think racist trolls are actually racist. Just a joke, right? Sure.
Conspiracies like this really fascinate me. Individually it can all be minor coincidences, or reaches to connect the dots.. But the further you dig into the rabbit hole the number of coincidences gets so high that its almost impossible to ignore. Thats not to say theres any credit to it either though, as there are so many conspiracies like this where you can connect all kinds of obscure references but genuinely are just a strange coincidence.
I still don't know how i feel about this one though, the logo itself is probably the biggest red flag for me. Ive never liked the look of it, but never understood why until now, and once you see the connection its very hard not to associate the two afterwards. Even if this was done by mistake, you would 100% change it the moment you realised, and its not like the logo is such a unique design that it would hold some sentimental value to them as a company. You'd scrap that shit immediately.
You would make the logo look more like the nfts itself.
There's no such thing as a coincidence. 👁👁
It's nigh impossible for every single aspect of this to be pure coincidence, there's far too many for it not to be intentional, add on top their clear fascination with cryptography and it just clear as day.
literally read coinspiracies and coin-incidences
This cant be a coincidence.
Terminally online is such a great term . Thats a new one for me
Man the going out of your way to do extensive research to cherry pick coincidences in copium overdosed individual got me rolling.
"Even saying what it is makes people feel stupid." HOLY SHIT. My dude just found a way to describe my initial reaction to NFTs, I didn't know that was possible! Like my instincts at the time were sensing BS, at the time I was thinking maybe I was just too dumb to understand it. Trying to describe to myself what I was thinking felt more like a vague description of a feeling than anything. Like I thought briefly maybe I should just go with it because the people pushing NFTs were clearly "smarter" than I am and of course the leaders we should be following are the intelligent ones. I am SO GLAD I have been involved in politics enough to realize super intelligent people can exist on both the right and wrong side, IF there even is only one correct, or only one wrong side. That realization prevented me from falling for some serious shenanigans and I didn't even understand why until just now. My mind is blown.
@@Sercotani Yeah my initial attempts to understand things were a bit embarrassing... Too easy to not think about it during my younger years, citing being too busy with my individual problems and whatnot lol. Guess that's just part of maturing as a person.
Anyways, um... I bought a whole bunch of shungite rocks, do you know what shungite is? Anybody know what shungite is? No, not Suge Knight, I think he's locked up in prison. I'm talkin' shungite. Anyways, it's a two billion year-old like, rock stone that protects against frequencies and unwanted frequencies that may be traveling in the air. That's my story, I bought a whole bunch of stuff. Put 'em around the la casa. Little pyramids, stuff like that.
Its weird, I had the same inital BS sensation when I first started seein this stuff take off. I felt I was missing something, but I think due to not fully understanding I got kinda pulled away from it interest wise. Still dont get why NFT stuff got so popular, or how you can sink that much money into it. D: Its way beyond me, but pretty glad I just opted to stay away from it at first glance lmao. Seems way to shady to me, reminded me of watching Kitboga with all the scams goin on every day.
I'm terrified to realize there are people that have thought processes like this and ones that are even worse... " Like I thought briefly maybe I should just go with it because the people pushing NFTs were clearly "smarter" than I am and of course the leaders we should be following are the intelligent ones." The amount of people that operate on this logic is terrifying.
@@Sercotani Seriously, like wtf am I reading. This is stuff you learn in preschool, you see it in cartoons as a kid. Wtf is this. How many cartoons and kid's shows where the bad guy is an evil genius. There is so much media and culture where this is the premise that are out there, I don't understand how one can be past the age of 7 years old and not at least somewhat be aware or keen about smarter people trying to manipulate them. Did your parents never tell you to watch out for people trying to manipulate you? Watch out for adults or smarter people trying to coerce you. This is so sad, but this is reality, you have to realize that there are more stupid people than smart people. Idiocracy is what we are living in. If you're of average or above intelligence you happen to be one of the rare ones now...
What's hilarious is my Dad had the same response. I guess I didn't know that there was already a precedent for this kind of stuff.
Lol
what was the precedent?
@@suigetsuh17 Other trolls/racists incorporating fascist dog whistles in mainstream media
Philion COMPLETELY bought up everything college had to offer...
...you have to try real hard to open a banana into four equal peels... just saiyan...
"How can so many celebrities fall for this shit?"
-Man who drinks his Dr pepper raw.
58:55 She seems so uncomfortable and careful answering that question. I found it funny when she mentioned a few partners and their ethnicities, as if someone's race/nationality automatically determines their political beliefs.
Interesting video though, a few reaches but some seem too coincidental to be accidental. It wouldn't surprise me if it was all a 4Chan style joke that got out of hand.
How would you ever call it "out of their hands" when they made a fuckin puzzle (with at least 2 pitfalls that purposefully mock the solver that they are wasting their time) using advanced cryptography. These guys are writers who studied the other greatest minds of their time and this is their own masterpiece. They know exactly what they are doing. Its been the same joke all along.
@@White__Ink Oh totally. I meant things blew up and went further than they expected. I assume they couldn't have predicted their "joke" would become the massive phenomenon it is now.
@@averageryan4965 Ah gotcha. Yeah. Those guys never expected the 5th ape with that hollywood mogul. Then they full send it!
Yeah that was sus.
Ngl, any time I hear the word “dog whistle” or “alt right” I immediately discredit whatever anyone is trying to argue because they hyper analyze everything.
But this video does make some good points which is crazy
Asmongold's dad calling in and tuning into the stream really hit the feels
This was mind boggling, incredible story. Really makes you wonder about how much of society is just some ones joke, man you just opened a whole can of worms for me. Not to say i already didnt have reservations but when is just laid out in front of you like this its just staggering.
What gets stranger is that this is the real internet in the video. The internet most people see, websites and social media, is dead. It’s been flooded with AI engagements, fake reviews, fake conversations, and even fake news articles for the past decade.
The stuff on 4chan and what these trolls create are real human ideas. The internet most people see is AI. There is no person behind it.
"Really makes you wonder about how much of society is just some ones joke..."~just a regular buffoon. Jokes aside, pretty neat quote.
People are still in denial. Openly. Let that sink in.
It's either elaborate troll or confirmation bias. This dude seems to be tunnel visioning. Although it could also be true, but a series of reaches when stacked together will always look convincing.
The really insane thing is here in America we have allowed all of these people who are "elite" in society to divide us all into nice neat little groups. That they then use to push violence and discourse among the masses. Left, right, it doesn't matter b/c behind closed doors these insidious assholes are one UNIT who know what they want. And we all fell for it and continue to do so instead of seeing all this bs in America for what it is & unite against them. Elite bid for money, power, control of us, of all. All we see is two sides that "hate' one another when in reality WE are hating one another while they pull the strings becoming massively wealthy off of our chaos they create.
When every date, number, animal, color, and word is racist....... You could probably reverse engineer anything into being racist.
Didn’t know love craft was a supremacist.
Now I love him even more ❤️
I'm exhausted just thinking about the amount of thought and effort it took to put all of this together.. truly fascinating.
Which is exactly why history will not remember your name.
@@monehgetcalm down bud
@@origintrackz5235reaching sure but when it’s 50 different examples, those coincidences don’t seem so much like coincidences
@@monehget coming from a guy who has a playlist about being on a fucking keto diet
@@lunaluceat the "keto historian"
Imagine if you were being charged with a crime and every time a piece of evidence against you was brought up, 40% of the room kept giggling.
atleast you know the jury will never unanimously agree right ? that is if you get a fair jury
@@bored588 Depends on the crime, not all crimes need an unanimous vote from the jury.
A Link Between Worlds was insanely fun and great. I couldn't stop playing it. Yuga would be a cool name to source your name from
Sounds like this “Philon” guy like men
I do have to disagree with 2666 being a “nazi story”. Bolaño writes often about fascists and nazis, but his work is very strongly against fascism as a whole.
I think it's a deliberate joke they are playing on gullible celebrities. A way of showing the world that celebrities are clueless and that they just jump on hype to try and stay relevant. It's clearly racist but I don't think they are racist but it's definitely grounded in racism so they can make the joke better. When this comes out it will humiliate celebrities and so called influencers. That is what I think their goal is, to make all the celebs get humiliated.
A joke or not, painting clear racism in a popular light... That don't look good regardless of the perspective.
Skull and cross-bones ☠️ more commonly used by pirates.. more fitting for NFTs
Asmon’s dad jumping in to be like “what do you mean you don’t know all those historical helmets son?” Was the most dad thing a dad has ever done 😂😂
Man. I thought I was online a lot, but this is just out of my reality. Dude, at this point I'm just amazed by how deep the iceberg goes. Like, all this effort to sneak some dog whistles into NFTs? I'm happy they're using their efforts for this, because these guys seem like they have the sheer determination to be supervillains and *actually* take over the world or some shit if they ever get bored wasting their powers trolling.
do you think the millions of dollars they made aren't going to be used to advance their political goals?
Aren’t you glad there are people who will explore the entire iceberg
Not wasting. They're making millions of dollars.
@@ckorp666 nah they scam other morons they dont need to
they are following the Golden rule. Who ever has the gold makes the rules.
If it's a troll they better have receipts that it's meant as a troll. I'd say the most convincing things are the logo, the price tags with the 14 and 88, but also the thing about the prisoner is too convenient. The price itself is pretty interesting because while it can just mean random people are setting random prices it can also mean those randoms are showing they've figured it out.
Numbers are a BIG thing with them. It's so they can put them in plain sight but still deny it. Out of all the symbols they use. Numbers are the biggest thing. As it makes them look smart.
ah yes guilty until proven innocent at its best.
assume the worst of people with zero evidence because thats just how you roll I guess
its a troll. its a great troll, its terrible as anything else and people that smart dont do things badly.
The price tag is the troll.
@@xelloskaczor5051 Yeah they are not nazis, just massive trolls, who managed to pull an amazing stunt, I was a bit worried at the start but everything checks out if you pay a little of attention later. The funniest part is how they make fun of the people that defend them, that one is hilarious.
In my experience with 4chan trolling. They only use this symbolism because it sets people off so hard. They also end up getting surrounded by actual nazis who think they've found like minds. Whom they then troll even harder. And what greater troll than getting a nazi to pay tens of thousands of dollars to signal they see the symbolism and think they'll be recruited or part of the in crowd. When really their gonna stay sitting at home wasting money on stupid jpegs
When you are a hammer, everything you see looks like a nail lol
I thought we were supposed to respect other's beliefs...
If that's the ethics you run off of, then also keep in mind 'do unto others as you would do unto yourself'. It's vice versa. You treat people like crap, be racist or fascist, and people will treat you like garbage. Trust but verify, and respect but do not condone. Slavery was a belief, and there's a reason we stopped respecting that.
@@spidey1100 speak for yourself spooterman.
100% these guys know what they're doing, there's no way it's all a coincidence that's some dream luck.
anything that uses numerology is a fucking conspiracy theory
And yet people still want to avoid it or pretend otherwise. They keep trying to look at things in an isolated case in order to try and justify it even though the whole video is about a vast, sprawling picture. It's a shame that so much of this comment section alone adds fuel to that fire and if anything proves how far their influence has gone.
@@DerelictSong I guess me having my own sort of experience with these sorts of things and these kinds of people led me to knowing full well what they're like, so I already got it, simpler than it may appear at first. Most other people don't usually see that.
TL;DR for the people who do stuff like this, they're usually severely mentally ill but do everything in their power to make it seem like they are a savant instead. In their path to doing so, they probably do gain some good level of intelligence, but their unchecked mental illness that only gets worse means this intelligence gets shuffled and misguided.
@@theblobconsumes4859 I bet you believed Trump colluded with Russia too.
ah really man 🤦♂️
i mean Philion really does know how to chain together a good investigative story if anything else its highly entertaining and freaking wild
He's a hack, Remember his video about Noel Deyzel being bad for the fitness community even though he's honest about his PED use and makes good informative content for beginners?
Philion can't be trusted about anything
Def entertaining but the most massive reach i have ever seen😂 so many little things they just blast right through
"most massive reach i have ever seen" Boy that's pretty ridiculous to say. A couple coincidences, sure. But when you know as much about how these kinds of messages and groups operate, this is pretty standard for white supremacist trolling and messaging.
@@totenfurwotan4478 how do you explain the nazi imagery picture quickly
@@ghulaa Monkeys paw. A very common fable. But for some reason the guy in the video is relating monkeys to black people... really makes you think. Maybe its the people who see racism in everything all the time who are the true racist and are projecting their own thoughts onto others.
When every puzzle just begets another puzzle, and every symbol is just a symbol for another one, nobody is gonna top this troll for decades
"Bored Ape Money Laundering club" fixed it
or fed bois
The game site puzzles shows that they are excellent with puzzles and hidden messages, which makes me think it's all on purpose, those guys are way too damn smart for all this to be coincidence.
Lmao at Asmon being like "thankfully you have me here as my guide" and then he continues to say "I've never heard of this" for everything that's said :D
Don't you think that means there could be some bullshit like "cowabunga" being racist? Not only is that used everywhere, but that meme is just a universal "Oh, so you have chosen violence" kind of meme.
@@MegaManDied you missed it by a mile. Fitting username too.
If a Internet Journeyman kind of people like Asmon can get caught off guard, what about common people?
This troll was so deliberate that even you need a help from a good cypher to figure it out.
I also like how the video itself references him as an expert on 4chan bs haha
@@White__Ink I'm dyslexic don't discriminate, Mega Man is my favorite video game
The problem with this video is that phillion failed to realize that the vast majority of people, upon hearing about this type of elaborate trolling do not feel anger but instead interest. Most people aren't going to post the # that he wanted, and tbh this only solidified the legend of the club. Can any of you imagine it, a club that is in plain sight, racist, undecipherable, explained, but still untouched
Calm down
I think that's kinda his goal though, not necessarily to create outrage, but to make an interesting documentary and that's what he did. That's what a lot of producers want and do.
Insults only hurt when the person being insulted believes they are the thing that is insulting them.
Internet puzzle freaks are weird. Like, in Elite Dangerous years ago they had a hidden Guardian base in a trailer. A guy found it by calculating the positions of stars (on a fictional ingame planet in an entirely different solar system light-years from Earth) that found him the exact location. The math involved was...staggering. mind you, the image where he found the stars was a still capture of a 2 second bit of video
That's actually awesome! 💀
My theory is that it started as a trolling, but with how much money is in it now, it became a very real scam for them.
You clearly dont understand what the word scam means. Nobody is forcing you or messaging you to buy BAYC.
@@TehBananaBread Neither do you. You don't have to be forced into something for it be a scam. Street hustlers for example don't force you into playing their games, it's still is a scam/fraud.
@@marlo3898 If i put a selfmade tshirt on etsy for 5000 bucks and somebody buys them, did i scam them? No i didnt. Stupidity and fomo doesnt mean i deliberately went out of my way to scam people. Those street artists are deliberately setting up with the intent to scam people. BAYC is actually the opposite of a scam. It probably started as hate/satire/troll culture but after getting a lot of sales they started to take it serious and made a brand around it. Get lost.
@@marlo3898 Scams are based around the fact that you deliberately mislead people to gain a monetary gain (or something that has value). Every ape they sold for a mint price of 180 dollars is still worth 80k. How exactly did Yugalabs scam people by giving them 80k of value for 180 dollars? (not even including the 20k bonus air drop)
@@CypherDND dont take another man's bet. Its technically winnable but you are a sucker among millions. Vegas was built on "technicality". Why are you defending 3 card hustlers, bud?
I was feeling convinced till you said that the youtuber is just being backed by a rival nft like wtf lmfao
1 year later people still have the apes lmao
The problem with ironic racism is that it attracts actual racists and eventually the true believers crowd out the ironic trolls.
This is literally the story of 4chan.
Is it? I think the problem is the exact opposite, it's that it attracts people who are even more ironic and incapable of insincerity, up to the point where people are buried so far under irony that they don't even know what reality is any more.
@@Nukestarmaster why not both?
@@Nukestarmaster You just declscribed basically the same thing. The issue is when the result of trolling racism and actual racism are the same (spreading racist ideology that leads to worse attitudes toward and treatment for groups of people), then the two are functionally no different and intent ceases to matter.
>people crying about how thousands of years old survival mechanism is a bad thing!
The sleep is deep indeed...
Racism is human nature it is a question of whether society can rise above it. Only the West has tried and it seems to failing apart after a century long attempt.
The 3DS is one of the best selling systems of all time link between worlds was one of the stand out best reviewed Zelda games. I do agree with a lot of the other points, but even if this game was obscure, I do think a nerd would name their company after an obscure game
@@Xiatter wow yeah barely over 4 million meanwhile 75 million 3ds were sold so that’s super surprising to me but still my point about obscurity still stands. I feel like the nerdier you are the more obscure your references. My current dnd character is based off two random words from the ancient language in the eragon book series that aren’t even said in the books they are just part of the dictionary
more likely he chose it BECAUSE it was obscure? Wasn't that the whole point of the video? Obscure information?
@@TIMOZ1992tf does that even mean?
@@mikeespinoza5733 yeah but it isnt even obscure. The game sold a ton of copies and yuga is a fairly popular zelda character, just not as popular as ganon or link. Like if you have watched or interacted with other zelda fans you know yuga lmao
Same. I had a character named alkaizer from saga frontier because it was one of my favorite games as a kid. I did it. Im sure other people do it.
Bro, it sounds like celebrities accepting these NFTs didn’t have any basic parenting like “don’t take things from strangers”, “if it’s too good, it’s probably too good to be true” and “the only free cheese is in the mousetrap.”
Have y'all ever heard of number 23? Everything can be made to support one specific thing.
"How can so many Celebrities get hoodwinked by this?" Is it really that hard to believe; that vain and materialistic egotists would accept free merchandise under the guise of promotional purposes?
Celebrities aren't smart, they are lucky