I think my favorite part is when they go into the puzzle game site. Because everything before that seems like a huge reach, and then they show the complexity in the puzzles and it's like "oh, these guys could completely know what they're doing".
The whole puzzle section just screams 4chan to me. Anytime you see a very elaborate puzzle like that with a very stupid or troll-ish conclusion, it's usually them.
You are correct, sir. However, everything he said is still a HUGE reach. The reality is, the person who made the video latched on to ONE thing, the word ape.
Imagine if you were being charged with a crime, and every time a piece of evidence against you was brought up, your lawyer just kept screaming "REEEACH"
this would fly out of the court immediately since all of this is circumstantial evidence and no hard proof. Circumstantial evidence is indirect evidence that does not, on its face, prove a fact in issue but gives rise to a logical inference that the fact exists. maybe in civil court this could work but criminal court would need someone to admit to something, a swastika tattoo or one of those guys saying sieg heil on video. Criminal court does have higher standards due to the go to prison part of it.
@@0bomberjack0 You do realize that most court cases don't have legitimate hard evidence right? Beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't mean video evidence, it often means enough circumstantial evidence that the likelihood of everything being a coincidence isn't worth considering. That's why the wording is beyond a reasonable doubt and not any doubt, because there will almost always be some tiny chance
@@rheawelsh4142 thanks for repeating what i said you really added to the discussion. The different levels of proof are needed for civil and criminal cases which are two seperate courts. In civil it's mostly about money while criminal can make you a fellon and get you into prison for the rest of your life and that's where the different levels of proof come into play. Usually judges know the difference but some don't cause they're bad at their job.
"how many times does it take?": "Once is an occurrence, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern, and patterns are worth exploring" -a wise man
@halvorson566 exactly when I heard it I immediately thought back to my 13-year-old self, making gamertags referencing shit only the biggest nerds would get
The thing is Yuga is not at first a character at all, it is the definition of time or era in hinduism. Google Yuga and you will find it being a lot of different things, having so many things to build a theory from. And the same logic is applied throughout the video. Its all BS.
Yuga was pretty obscure until BotW, then he and the clan became a meme back in 2017, a few years before NFT’s were even a thing. That was the biggest reach for me.
@@davidsantiago7808 fr, you can accidentally use imagery that ends up having bad connotations, but the logo is way too fucking specific to be an accident
@@davidsantiago7808 Those are just species of monkeys...technically it is racist because it refers to race.... And even so..who cares. Calling someone a name doesnt change anything in the real world. Buy it or dont buy it...but not everything needs a racist lens. BTW - Hiring black people and woman under guise of "Equity Hiring"...is racist/sexist. But you dont care about that.... These Ism's are everywhere. If you want to attack them please be consistent and not act like some blinded horse lead by societies emotional carrot.
I never connected the dots to racism before, but I always believed that the name "bored apes" is a mockery making fun of the buyers. The buyers are the real bored apes.
What's really funny is the left who's ideology has killed more people in the last century than every religion, ideology combined is selling people on how terrible the right is. It's beyond laughable
as a graphic design student when I make a logo, I literally make at least 6-10 variations of it. There's absolutely no way these guys accidentally made their logo identical to that Nazi one. Like no shot. It's like asmon said, without the necessary knowledge you won't understand a lot of things. For me personally, I don't have to look past that to know it is on purpose
Yeah, and the ragged circle outline design is especially weird. I've seen like, the letter stamp circle with the wavy outline but the jaggedness of their outline is smth I've never seen anywhere before, people usually either use like one of the -gons, a straight up circle or the wavy circle perimeter like in stamps, the only 2 logos I've seen with the rough circle outline on their logo are the two logos shown in this video.
And there is absolutely no way that the national animal for both the United States and na zi germany is an eagle... Like, with all the different animals around the world, what are the odds they would both just randomly choose eagle? Chances are miniscule. Clearly there is a connection between USA and nazism
Honestly, the fact that they made people trade jpegs for millions of dollars is way funnier. The hidden racist references aren't even that imressive at that point.
First of all, is not a "jpeg" neither a "link to a jpeg", but putting that aside. They are not selling only the monkey nft. Those NFT are actually used as a pass to some events. So these people do actually meet at closed doors, and knowing the racist references, what do you think they are discussing there?
The interview with those ladies with the bored ape lady giving weird circle running answers is one of the creepiest interviews I've ever seen. Is that actually real? For real?
@@greenfroggood2392 "They have a background in writing, like both of them are authors so, like, they're creatives, like, they're not academic people, they're like, creatives, and so this is like a creation for them" Bitch was like a broken record in these clips.
They should also mention that there is a long history of writers and artist's trolling people. The biggest troll of all time is scientology. It was 2 sci fi authors making a bet that one couldn't create an absurd religion and actually get people to follow
@@kurtlee3198 Uhh…that doesn’t really PROVE anything other than the possibility that the company they contracted to do the “puzzles” were in on the troll OR BAYC had final say in what the solutions would be and all the “hidden meanings” and shit slipped completely under the contracted studio’s radar.
I don't understand why the video needed an in-depth walkthrough of the puzzle, to me it seemed like filler. Very little of it was relevant to the thesis statement of the video, and mostly it just boiled down to "it repeatedly makes references to primates, and racists like to use primate-related slurs." For myself, some of the evidence presented early in the video was strong, but then it seemed to devolve into a gisp gallop of sorts, and I found myself less convinced by the time the second poll was run. The argument, "how many points do you need to be convinced" struck me as a red flag; it's a generally wrong-headed approach to take, because what should matter is the quality of the evidence, or how the available evidence fits into a pattern of logic, not how many bullet points of "evidence" and loose associations you can throw at the wall. This is one of the ways people fool themselves into believing in more far-fetched conspiracy theories. So you can make the point that ape/primate imagery/language/pseudo-science has a robust history of being used in a racist way. That is a very good point to make. But then regardless of what the intentions were behind choosing apes as the theme, you would naturally expect the project to have other ape/primate-related elements, so for those instances to be considered as new/separate pieces of evidence for the argument, there should be some really compelling additional context pertinent to each additional "point" being presented; if the additional context is a stretch, it should be given minimal weight, since we've already considered and assigned some weight to the general "apes are associated with racism" point.
No doubt it started out as a troll but it just snowballed into something so much bigger and ended up being a profit making machine. I don't doubt the creators never expected it to blow up as much as it did.
@@YetAnotherShadowBannedAccount You are aware that you can check whether what he said is true in under 5 minutes, yes? You know that there are tons of sites that archive 4chan posts, yes? You know that you can search those sites for what that guy claims is 4chan-lingo, yes? Because I did. Which is why I know that he is lying.
I think its really mostly just marketing. Put a big RUclipsr in there, chances are someone from their community sees it and tells them to watch it cause they its funny. If you put in 5 of them and at least one of them reacts to it, thats another 100k views on your video the next day.
@@undsowei1erundsofor1 But the video he is promoting here is literally hidden from the platform in this case. Go ahead, try to find it. This one is probably just Asmon wanting to make this viewed.
"It's easier to fool somebody than it is to convince them that they've been fooled" true words! I remember when i snapped an old friend of mine back to reality with this quote when he was misled by a girl.
The problem is that, a lot of the time, people who use this phrase haven't truly acknowledged the underlying implications for them. The moment you accept something as true because "it came from a trustworthy source", you've opened up the possibility that you're the one being fooled. That being said, this isn't a criticism at all, but more of a reminder. It's literally impossible for anyone to function in the world without accepting most things as true that they cannot 100% individually confirm, so it's inevitable that a lot, if not most, of our beliefs are incorrect. I don't know if that made sense, but it clicks and my head and hopefully it does to anyone who reads it that might be having too much confidence in their ability to differentiate between true and false based solely on another person's words and their own intuition.
Wait. I’m not sure but I thought Japanese version 2chan was way older than 4chan. I’m from Japan by the way. The name 2chan(Channel 2) comes from , back in the days(Analog TV era) Japanese Channel wasn’t used by broadcast and we mostly used channels 2 for Line in (like connecting nintendo games or video). New age started to grow and start to get bored against same old broadcast TV. So 2chan(2チャン) had meaning of frustration of old type media. And most of the Emoji culture cane from 2chan. Things like text base Emojis like ( ´∀｀)人(´∀｀ ) ( ´Д`)y━･~~ smoking And yes 2chan went through many problems similar to 4chan Sorry if my English doesn’t make sense.
And then reminisces how he provided his son with a spiked kaiser, bike helmet… Then asmon mentioning that he put a bunch of nails sticking through his bike helmet… Then mentioning it might not be safe to use… Then implying that he still has the helmet…
That's how you know that man was dedicated to making a good video, he was on top of it and ready to go at a moment's notice for an interview covering it's content; well done.
Good video? All he did was waste my time on vague theories and sketchy connections with puzzles as time filler to give it a more documentary like length. FU Philon, you aint got nothing but far reaches or shit that could be explained as 4 chan inside troll humor, who gives a shit even if they got some nazi sympathies which i doubt seeing the group, it's not like they directly give money or buy weapons for nazis on a massive scale. We got the EU and US doing that right now for Ukraine. Now the Biden laptop.... that is one tasty conspiracy "theory". Shit one of the experts is a artistic (probably hedgefund) guy that made a few memes, wow! Philon brings out the big guns! I find the idea that Philon acts like he is in a Dan Brown novel by solving some monkey themed puzzles on a website where he gets monkey related answers where he looks for the most sinister correlations as explanations expecting the answers to finally bring down an evil multi billion dollar operation HILARIOUS!! Philon should stick to nattie or not like content.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 the video was uploaded a week ago. No shit it was made before the interview lol what point are you trying to make? It's not like Asmongold watched a live video.
i think one of the biggest tells that something is going on is the whole puzzle game itself. it shows that they are extremely well versed in cryptic messaging and hiding thing in plain sight. kinda makes me wonder what other types of messaging might be hidden in the bored apes NFTs.
I think it shows how smart these anons can be, and how they are figuring out more and more how to shepherd the masses, and even manipulate the "elites" of society
@@Xemptuous Oh god. We are heading into the world of Metal Gear Solid, only instead of arms dealers, the AI controlling everything will have been created by the hacker known as 4chan.
@@Xemptuous Or... the more likely reality, it just shows how good they are at trolling and getting people riled up about "something" that is actually nothing, and how so many people like yourself get roped into it. 4chan has done very elaborate trolls before, but they're just that, trolls. And obviously Anons are "smart"... Anonymous started out on 4chan, as well as other fringe hacker groups, it's a HUGE community, many of which are cyber geeks, obviously they'd have skills in technology here and there.
Cryptography games aren't rare at all. Lots of games, Escape from Tarkov for example, have had them as promotional contests. Most of the puzzles give you the cipher too so it's not that much of a puzzle.
@@gelatinousturncoat It's bog standard fare to anyone who has participated in or was otherwise involved with some ARG really. Some of the imagery and weirdly specific namedropping does raise an eyebrow, but not much more.
I think the game was the smoking gun. The game was the proof that they were willing to think deeply, favor cryptic puzzles and use hidden meanings. That makes all the other reaches plausible, along with it being created by writers but then having almost no "story" told explicitly.
Everybody's eyes being burned out is harking to Ezikiels chariot. They're being blatant in their messaging about how stupid people are to fly too close to the sun. With themselves playing the sun in the story. It's a disease but people who do this shit cant stop. They're committed.
I agree but then again I'm asking what is the benefit for the creators? Pushing their Nazi agenda with symbolism and messages so well hidden that 99.9999% of people can't even understand it...
What people need to understand is that 4Chan does work with layers upon layers upon layers of crap like this. That's literally the bloody point, being so absurd and so obscure that normal people just shrug it off as "Pfft that's ridiculous" because yes it is and that's the point. That's why exposing them as racists or of using racist conotations and such has always been so hard.
Oh yeah, a simple political version of this is something like "forced bussing" or inner city management, somethings that sounds like boring city crap but really deal with racist shit pushed by Republicans. Which 4Chan took a look at that, looked at the KKK, and white nationalists, and said, we can make it more obscure
Despite the context and intentions, this whole cryptic puzzle thing is quite impressive to be honest. Reminds me of the Cicada 3301 event from 10 years ago
@@laneswerve Even if they aren't using it for racist ends the fact they're using if for trash NFT bullshit it's still being used for evil which is disappointing...
There was another project called Genopets where they did something alike (cipher and google geolocation) to find the answer under a certain amount of time to be able to access a key to mint an NFT. I've participated in all of them, and it was challenging AF but so fun and rewarding!
At the end in the interview he mentions where the logo shows up with the jagged edges... but he fails to mention its on the front page of the official website. The logo in the footer is actually a transparent PNG, but you can't tell because its black on a black background. If you look at the image alone, it has the same jagged edge. Hidden in plain sight.
For me, those jagged/rippled edges of the circular logo were the clincher. When you combine everything else with the fact they created this logo, added a SKULL to it right where the SS' logo has the skull, with the text in the same places on both logos, you can no longer say there's nothing here. Come on. How many round logos do you remember seeing with rippled/jagged edges? I can't think of a single one. That's when I took everything else seriously, and after two views, imo, there's zero percent chance this wasn't completely planned and designed. I don't know or even think these guys are white supremacists, but they're definitely trolls.
@@willd.8040 Of course they're trolls but the implication is that they're alt-right white supremacist nazis. Why was this video made and why is it doing the rounds on Twitch? You know they use these platforms to influence peolpe and to propagate naratives.
@@willd.8040 The whole jagged edge emblem is complete bs. Nazis or Prussians never had jagged imagery or paraphernalia, ever. What was more common was just the skull itself. When it was as an emblem, it was ALWAYS just circular or oval, not jagged. You will never find the jagged edge in any Nazi or Prussian army uniforms, rings, lockets, books, imagery, etc, because that is not how that emblem looks. I do not know where the author of that video found those images with the jagged edge, but as a WW2 buff myself, I've NEVER seen that logo displayed like that in my entire life. It certainly was not worn like that by the SS or the Totenkompf division.
@@tlanimass952 Im pretty sure new age neo nazis use jagged egdes and more metal adjacent imagery a lot atleast here in germany thats quite common. obviously no one is saying those kinds of styles were used in actual nazi uniforms back in the day.
@@tlanimass952 You missed the point. The jagged nazi emblem was used on the internet before NFTs were a thing. Then it was copied by the bored ape guys. Nobody claimed that it was used back in WW2 on uniforms.
Update via wikipedia: In April 2023, federal judge John F. Walter of the United States District Court for the Central District of California issued a summary judgment in Yuga Labs' favor, with damages to be determined at trial.[71] The judge ruled that Ripps and his partner Jeremy Cahen had committed "false designation of origin" and "cybersquatting" and that Yuga Labs was entitled to an injunction and damages.[71][72] Following the court trial, Judge Walter ruled that Yuga Labs was entitled to recover all $1.3 million of Ripps' and Cahen's profits from the sale of the copycat NFTs, plus $200,000 in damages for cybersquatting, plus attorneys' fees; the ruling was made public in October 2023.[73]
Classic example of Juice juicing juice. Team Yuga are juice. Ripps is a juice. Judge is a juice. This is the orange juice world order. Praise the vitamin C
Honestly with how elaborate all those puzzles were I’d reconsider calling anything a reach. That’s was pretty insane and I wouldn’t put it past them to make things so damn obscure they’re often mistaken as just a “reach”
Yea I was firmly in the "this sounds like conspiracy theory nonsense" camp until seeing how elaborate and intricately designed that puzzle was. Hard for me to believe the guys who came up with that puzzle put no hidden meaning into their initial designs.
Asmon might have the coolest Dad ever. He even watches the streams! There's parents out there right now, with 12 year olds. That don't show as much interest in what their kid likes doing. As much as asmons Dad does, with asmon being a grown ass man! Respect dude!
32:02 i actually remember seeing that photo studying history. I'm 99% sure (and this is the worst part) that, in that photo, the man is actually staring at the hands of his daughter, who had been cut off to punish him. It's a sick world
@@mohammedsiddiqui3062Not saying you're in the right or wrong but what do you mean? The executioner? The one giving the order? The higher up (Cartel boss, warlord, general)? Everyone?
This man broke down the video extremely well and then with a surprise ending to interview the creator of the video…..Your the man, what a journey this was
@@K0RGAN0S7I’ve always really struggled to understand what people like about XQCs reaction content. He seems genuinely stupid and never seems to understand what he’s seeing or listening to…his takes are ridiculous a lot of the time and based on a complete misunderstanding of the information given. He adds little/no input to the things he watches mainly just saying “whaaaaaat, no waaay” etc on repeat He seems unable to grasp even the simplest of concepts 🤦🏼♀️ Does he do something else that people enjoy other than just reactions…like gaming or something? Cuz if not I really don’t understand how he has so many subscribers 😅
Honestly this was a really good video by asmongold covering a really good video by Philion. Huge respect for both for having a discussion on this as well!
@@catra195 alt-right was a term coined by Richard Spencer... You realize that when everyone points to an obvious Nazi being an obvious Nazi and you make these kinds of statements in their defense it ruins any credibility you have right?
Also, when you can accuse every race to be white supremacists it loses all meaning. "Oh, just because you're black you think you can't be a white supremacist?" Yes, exactly, and you're insane if you think otherwise.
It's absolutely a troll. And I'd argue that little to none of the accusations are reaches, considering if we look at the puzzle we know that they are incredibly smart. They're not stupid, smart to a point that it's hard to believe there'd be any coincidences within it all. With all the information together it all seems purposeful. Carefully calculated and crafted by people who knew exactly what they were doing before they even started BAYC. They aren't being called racists. Or nazis. Or any of that. They're being called trolls, trolls that pulled off the biggest troll. And of course they wont admit it because of how much money they're making.
Good take. Just a bunch of white people taking advantage of the new crypto tech hidden behind mystery. But what brought them together was making fun of 'apes' lol. Wholesome
That's the point. Individually most of the accusations are reaches, but when looking at all of them together, there is no way you can claim it's a coincidence.
@@rayquaza1245 reminds me of Fleming's quote from 007 "once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three time is enemy action." Except in this case it would be "three time is trolling"
@@rayquaza1245 you can though. Have you seen literally any other conspiracy theory they all have similar connections and if you look hard enough you can find connections like that with anything (this has been tested). Ancient aliens and the moon landing conspiracy use similar tactics. Not saying it's not true but none of this counts as proof in science or law. You can say it's likely but not proven.
At what point does trolling become embracing? Just trolling hasn't been a valid defense for a couple years now. These people are spreading Nazi symbolism to people who don't think it's a joke at all. They see it as an acceptance and endorsement of a disgusting view of life. It's beyond laughable you don't think racist trolls are actually racist. Just a joke, right? Sure.
I have not watched much of Asmund but the relationship with his father is really cool. Seems like his dad is really interested in his son and the things he is into. I hope me and my kids can have that relationship when they are older.
I hope so for my future kids as well. I was home over the holiday break and I was doing dishes at my parent’s house and watching a podcast while doing so (at like 25% iPhone speaker volume lol) and my dad comes over from a different part of the house and rudely/coldly says, “Turn that off.” Of course, I ask, “Why?” And he just responds with, “It’s boring. Who cares about their lives?” Keep in mind I’m a 33 year old dude that lives across the country from my parents and is married… it’s not like he’s trying to police what I’m watching lol. He was just being a dick.
@@user-dj9iu2et3rnot really being a dick, hes just telling you that you can do something more productive than listen to some dudes talk about their lives on youtube
im still blown away they made an entire game with puzzles and messeges all throughout. Thats some dedication, also, the hat with the skull on it that the monkey was wearing was the dead giveaway for me in the rolling stones poster not just the monkey hand
The deathshead isn't a purely German symbol or a racist symbol,its an international symbol thats been used or is used by damn near every nation on earth Its a symbol of elite cavalry or elite units or a symbol of danger
And if the Totenkof IS racist, then the USMC and US Army are racist, the German army is racist, the Portuguese army is racist, the polish are racist, the Royal Air Force is racist, and pretty much every US Cavalry unit is racist as they ALL use the Totenkof to this very day
@@nicholasbrown668 again, all these points make a line. A pattern is a pattern, and when all of these widly different points have two possible patterns have 2 possible interpretations, where one of them is nazi, its worth thinking about. I know analogies are risky but: its like meeting someone and they have 500 red flags, would you give them the benefit of the doubt?
I do have to disagree with 2666 being a “nazi story”. Bolaño writes often about fascists and nazis, but his work is very strongly against fascism as a whole.
Man. I thought I was online a lot, but this is just out of my reality. Dude, at this point I'm just amazed by how deep the iceberg goes. Like, all this effort to sneak some dog whistles into NFTs? I'm happy they're using their efforts for this, because these guys seem like they have the sheer determination to be supervillains and *actually* take over the world or some shit if they ever get bored wasting their powers trolling.
Honestly, all of them could be zodiacs. Ngl. Their level of dedication to make themselves feel smart and clever just to add hints of racism in comments and whole threads is kind of disturbing. They could make cyphers that take three experts to figure out because some dedicate that much time and effort for literally no reason.
They don't have to be racist in order to troll using racist imagery. Especially if they're (semi-) nihilists or want to get genuine racists to give them money.
And yet people still want to avoid it or pretend otherwise. They keep trying to look at things in an isolated case in order to try and justify it even though the whole video is about a vast, sprawling picture. It's a shame that so much of this comment section alone adds fuel to that fire and if anything proves how far their influence has gone.
@@DerelictSong I guess me having my own sort of experience with these sorts of things and these kinds of people led me to knowing full well what they're like, so I already got it, simpler than it may appear at first. Most other people don't usually see that. TL;DR for the people who do stuff like this, they're usually severely mentally ill but do everything in their power to make it seem like they are a savant instead. In their path to doing so, they probably do gain some good level of intelligence, but their unchecked mental illness that only gets worse means this intelligence gets shuffled and misguided.
If it's a troll they better have receipts that it's meant as a troll. I'd say the most convincing things are the logo, the price tags with the 14 and 88, but also the thing about the prisoner is too convenient. The price itself is pretty interesting because while it can just mean random people are setting random prices it can also mean those randoms are showing they've figured it out.
Numbers are a BIG thing with them. It's so they can put them in plain sight but still deny it. Out of all the symbols they use. Numbers are the biggest thing. As it makes them look smart.
ah yes guilty until proven innocent at its best. assume the worst of people with zero evidence because thats just how you roll I guess its a troll. its a great troll, its terrible as anything else and people that smart dont do things badly.
@@xelloskaczor5051 Yeah they are not nazis, just massive trolls, who managed to pull an amazing stunt, I was a bit worried at the start but everything checks out if you pay a little of attention later. The funniest part is how they make fun of the people that defend them, that one is hilarious.
In my experience with 4chan trolling. They only use this symbolism because it sets people off so hard. They also end up getting surrounded by actual nazis who think they've found like minds. Whom they then troll even harder. And what greater troll than getting a nazi to pay tens of thousands of dollars to signal they see the symbolism and think they'll be recruited or part of the in crowd. When really their gonna stay sitting at home wasting money on stupid jpegs
Conspiracies like this really fascinate me. Individually it can all be minor coincidences, or reaches to connect the dots.. But the further you dig into the rabbit hole the number of coincidences gets so high that its almost impossible to ignore. Thats not to say theres any credit to it either though, as there are so many conspiracies like this where you can connect all kinds of obscure references but genuinely are just a strange coincidence. I still don't know how i feel about this one though, the logo itself is probably the biggest red flag for me. Ive never liked the look of it, but never understood why until now, and once you see the connection its very hard not to associate the two afterwards. Even if this was done by mistake, you would 100% change it the moment you realised, and its not like the logo is such a unique design that it would hold some sentimental value to them as a company. You'd scrap that shit immediately.
the original nfts themselves with the hats were a huge red flag for me as well. And also the puzzle shows that they aren’t randomly doing stuff and fully aware of details so those two really tweaked me.
Further proof of their trolling having a point, adding to that, why is their stuff treated as a crime? They are literally being edgy and as their rep said, they are not white, and yet you don't see this rage against true abuse by the average international corpo The guy of the video claims "they took our money" when in fact they didn't have anything taken from them, just mindlessly raging against what they are told to rage
...people literally went there, it doesn't have a basement. Circumstantial evidence? Non-existent, more like. More than one person has tried too, didn't one guy bust down a door just to find some old cash registers and cleaning equipment.
"Even saying what it is makes people feel stupid." HOLY SHIT. My dude just found a way to describe my initial reaction to NFTs, I didn't know that was possible! Like my instincts at the time were sensing BS, at the time I was thinking maybe I was just too dumb to understand it. Trying to describe to myself what I was thinking felt more like a vague description of a feeling than anything. Like I thought briefly maybe I should just go with it because the people pushing NFTs were clearly "smarter" than I am and of course the leaders we should be following are the intelligent ones. I am SO GLAD I have been involved in politics enough to realize super intelligent people can exist on both the right and wrong side, IF there even is only one correct, or only one wrong side. That realization prevented me from falling for some serious shenanigans and I didn't even understand why until just now. My mind is blown.
@@Sercotani Yeah my initial attempts to understand things were a bit embarrassing... Too easy to not think about it during my younger years, citing being too busy with my individual problems and whatnot lol. Guess that's just part of maturing as a person.
Anyways, um... I bought a whole bunch of shungite rocks, do you know what shungite is? Anybody know what shungite is? No, not Suge Knight, I think he's locked up in prison. I'm talkin' shungite. Anyways, it's a two billion year-old like, rock stone that protects against frequencies and unwanted frequencies that may be traveling in the air. That's my story, I bought a whole bunch of stuff. Put 'em around the la casa. Little pyramids, stuff like that.
Its weird, I had the same inital BS sensation when I first started seein this stuff take off. I felt I was missing something, but I think due to not fully understanding I got kinda pulled away from it interest wise. Still dont get why NFT stuff got so popular, or how you can sink that much money into it. D: Its way beyond me, but pretty glad I just opted to stay away from it at first glance lmao. Seems way to shady to me, reminded me of watching Kitboga with all the scams goin on every day.
I'm terrified to realize there are people that have thought processes like this and ones that are even worse... " Like I thought briefly maybe I should just go with it because the people pushing NFTs were clearly "smarter" than I am and of course the leaders we should be following are the intelligent ones." The amount of people that operate on this logic is terrifying.
@@Sercotani Seriously, like wtf am I reading. This is stuff you learn in preschool, you see it in cartoons as a kid. Wtf is this. How many cartoons and kid's shows where the bad guy is an evil genius. There is so much media and culture where this is the premise that are out there, I don't understand how one can be past the age of 7 years old and not at least somewhat be aware or keen about smarter people trying to manipulate them. Did your parents never tell you to watch out for people trying to manipulate you? Watch out for adults or smarter people trying to coerce you. This is so sad, but this is reality, you have to realize that there are more stupid people than smart people. Idiocracy is what we are living in. If you're of average or above intelligence you happen to be one of the rare ones now...
The problem with ironic racism is that it attracts actual racists and eventually the true believers crowd out the ironic trolls. This is literally the story of 4chan.
Is it? I think the problem is the exact opposite, it's that it attracts people who are even more ironic and incapable of insincerity, up to the point where people are buried so far under irony that they don't even know what reality is any more.
@@Nukestarmaster You just declscribed basically the same thing. The issue is when the result of trolling racism and actual racism are the same (spreading racist ideology that leads to worse attitudes toward and treatment for groups of people), then the two are functionally no different and intent ceases to matter.
Racism is human nature it is a question of whether society can rise above it. Only the West has tried and it seems to failing apart after a century long attempt.
I was a history major, and these crafty bastards are very well educated. Their schtick is pretty overtly apparent to a trained eye, but damn is the general public alarmingly oblivious. Moment I saw their totenkopf logo, I knew they were up to some wild shit and trying to gaslight everyone into thinking they weren't. Props to BAYC for so completely pulling the wool over the public eye, and even greater props to the folks who call them out.
As if our "modern democracies" were more desirable than the alternate outcome of the two great wars back then. The world's incredibly messed up with all these forced migrations happening and everything being uglified. I'd take a world where that doesn't exist any day of the week, no matter how much death it costs.
if you a history major, then you've looked up Nazis stuff. bingo, flagged by the FBI. Thats the joke. Triggered emotional nerds. hehe...nothing more than that.
@@thehoodedteddy1335honestly there's LITERALLY no proof in this entire video that anything like this is actually happening. Bunch of maybes. Like when destiny had to remove that skin cause it was Nazi like. Shit can happen accidentally. History is long and a lot of shit can be taken any which way. White supremacy at this point is a myth. I see none of it.
This was mind boggling, incredible story. Really makes you wonder about how much of society is just some ones joke, man you just opened a whole can of worms for me. Not to say i already didnt have reservations but when is just laid out in front of you like this its just staggering.
What gets stranger is that this is the real internet in the video. The internet most people see, websites and social media, is dead. It’s been flooded with AI engagements, fake reviews, fake conversations, and even fake news articles for the past decade. The stuff on 4chan and what these trolls create are real human ideas. The internet most people see is AI. There is no person behind it.
It's either elaborate troll or confirmation bias. This dude seems to be tunnel visioning. Although it could also be true, but a series of reaches when stacked together will always look convincing.
The really insane thing is here in America we have allowed all of these people who are "elite" in society to divide us all into nice neat little groups. That they then use to push violence and discourse among the masses. Left, right, it doesn't matter b/c behind closed doors these insidious assholes are one UNIT who know what they want. And we all fell for it and continue to do so instead of seeing all this bs in America for what it is & unite against them. Elite bid for money, power, control of us, of all. All we see is two sides that "hate' one another when in reality WE are hating one another while they pull the strings becoming massively wealthy off of our chaos they create.
58:55 She seems so uncomfortable and careful answering that question. I found it funny when she mentioned a few partners and their ethnicities, as if someone's race/nationality automatically determines their political beliefs. Interesting video though, a few reaches but some seem too coincidental to be accidental. It wouldn't surprise me if it was all a 4Chan style joke that got out of hand.
How would you ever call it "out of their hands" when they made a fuckin puzzle (with at least 2 pitfalls that purposefully mock the solver that they are wasting their time) using advanced cryptography. These guys are writers who studied the other greatest minds of their time and this is their own masterpiece. They know exactly what they are doing. Its been the same joke all along.
@@White__Ink Oh totally. I meant things blew up and went further than they expected. I assume they couldn't have predicted their "joke" would become the massive phenomenon it is now.
I think it's a deliberate joke they are playing on gullible celebrities. A way of showing the world that celebrities are clueless and that they just jump on hype to try and stay relevant. It's clearly racist but I don't think they are racist but it's definitely grounded in racism so they can make the joke better. When this comes out it will humiliate celebrities and so called influencers. That is what I think their goal is, to make all the celebs get humiliated.
Isn’t it at least equally about money? The images are outrageously “valued” based on what? Whatever people will pay. eBay fake posts “selling” a Beanie Baby for $20,000 for example posted by the persons trying to sell Beanie Babies (BB) for profit are kinda genius. The average buyer has no clue and doesn’t even know how to distinguish a “first release” from a future release. These NFT’s were a fad, designed imo to transfer money from “buyers” to profit “sellers” when the entire concept of NFT’s was in itself something that most people cannot even comprehend… as in the TV host Jimmy Fallon saying it’s his first nft. He probably paid zero, but due to behind the scenes manipulation, believes it’s “worth” $750,000. I remember my teen daughter wanting to invest in these back in 2019??? I warned her they are b.s. designed to get people to buy an image that’s worth nothing except if you can resell it, like an electronic image Pyramid Scheme. At least Beanie Babies you can hold! My dog destroyed a “super rare Buffalo 🦬 BUFFALO BB, one just these is on eBay for $15,000! Hah! It’s in pieces and my dog is fond of it, I got it at a Thrift store for $1 Worthless. However- if someone had offered me big $$$ for it? For sure id take the $ So, the nft is a troll of “art” and “investment” The monkey and racist crap is bcuz, imo, the creators were just trying to prove how shallow the “investors” are but that they really only care about money. “Even if” as in “Even if” these particular nft’s had a very racist origin, the “investors” wouldn’t care. So, imo, these BAYC folks basically got very creative and created an entire back-story to set up anyone and everyone. Kind of like if CS Lewis or Tolkien who created their own universes had signed copies of the characters in their books that resold for huge $$$ But, then, some “hidden” backstory exposed CS Lewis or Tolkien character as having secret hidden ties to promoting some very abhorrent behavior, political or religious movement. So “as if”, CS Lewis or Tolkien then were actually writing their fantasy books to push an agenda that once it was exposed, lovers of their books would be in a moral dilemma and forced to either reject the “conspiracy” or essentially “ignore” it. Once these BAYC NFT’s have low or no value, their prices will plummet. But, imo, they will then become somewhat valuable because the BAYC NFT’s will represent how easily people were trolled. It’s a puzzle, meant to be solved. Again- “as if” CS Lewis or Tolkien hand signed books and artwork was sold for huge $$$ there’s no way “investors” are destroying it on principle bcuz people are greedy. Using monkeys was an “in your face” troll. The Hitl er stuff just crams it into people’s throats even further. It’s kind of obvious but so obvious it’s obviously a troll. Why? Because if it wasn’t a troll, there would’ve been some effort to hide it. The effort was into “exposing” some “right” conspiracy which was the point, imo. Humans are greedy. Congratulations- they sold racist- themed images to people who brag they are opposed to the very racism they’ll happily invest in and get wealthier off of. Hypocrisy.
The 3DS is one of the best selling systems of all time link between worlds was one of the stand out best reviewed Zelda games. I do agree with a lot of the other points, but even if this game was obscure, I do think a nerd would name their company after an obscure game
@@Xiatter wow yeah barely over 4 million meanwhile 75 million 3ds were sold so that’s super surprising to me but still my point about obscurity still stands. I feel like the nerdier you are the more obscure your references. My current dnd character is based off two random words from the ancient language in the eragon book series that aren’t even said in the books they are just part of the dictionary
@@mikeespinoza5733 yeah but it isnt even obscure. The game sold a ton of copies and yuga is a fairly popular zelda character, just not as popular as ganon or link. Like if you have watched or interacted with other zelda fans you know yuga lmao
Lmao at Asmon being like "thankfully you have me here as my guide" and then he continues to say "I've never heard of this" for everything that's said :D
Don't you think that means there could be some bullshit like "cowabunga" being racist? Not only is that used everywhere, but that meme is just a universal "Oh, so you have chosen violence" kind of meme.
If a Internet Journeyman kind of people like Asmon can get caught off guard, what about common people? This troll was so deliberate that even you need a help from a good cypher to figure it out.
I thought the same, that name makes sense and is clever for what it’s being used for 🤷♀️ The ‘other option’ given in the video was a massive reach and made far less sense lol
@@vamvam7690yeah and you never know which Zelda game is who’s favorite. Seeing everything else I think it’s plausible they looked for other things named Yuga. Maybe.
The thing about all the little detais is that they could've been very easily midified to add much more denyability, but they weren't. Like for instance the banana swastika. They coul've just flipped it, but they didn't. It's arms go in exact same direction. It's little things like that.
He's a hack, Remember his video about Noel Deyzel being bad for the fitness community even though he's honest about his PED use and makes good informative content for beginners? Philion can't be trusted about anything
"most massive reach i have ever seen" Boy that's pretty ridiculous to say. A couple coincidences, sure. But when you know as much about how these kinds of messages and groups operate, this is pretty standard for white supremacist trolling and messaging.
@@ghulaa Monkeys paw. A very common fable. But for some reason the guy in the video is relating monkeys to black people... really makes you think. Maybe its the people who see racism in everything all the time who are the true racist and are projecting their own thoughts onto others.
I also think that the people used all the nazi and racist references as inside joke, like edgy and dangerous things in order to make people look stupid like having black rappers flaunt their apes without knowing the true meaning, this kinda of stuff is a big power trip to some people, don't really think the guys are racists or neo nazis but using those references in plain sight and make people put so much value on it without knowing is a fucking amazing feat, it's literally making a fool out of the world and getting filthy rich while doing it, making a fool of people alone is enough for those 4chan guys to put their souls on it, it's legendary level trolling.
/pol/tards like larping as nazis because it offends people. While I'm certain that some of them unironically believe such things, I think they are massively outnumbered by those who are doing it for a laugh (and those who are psychologically incapable of sincerity).
Ikr I’m more in awe than feeling any animosity and I get virulently angry at racism in action. It doesn’t feel like it’s actually furthering any racist cause, just a combination of up their ass trolls and actual idiot racists playing a cute little game.
Do you know what a political dogwhistle is? Do you know what propaganda is and how harmful it could be? With all due respect you guys are delusional giving these people ANY benefit of the doubt, with all this evidence. Their intentions and beliefs are clear and blatant.
Eh. Ive seen people claim trees, milk, mathematics and liking Dolly Parton songs are all "racist". It wouldnt surprise me if the biggest edgelord troll ever came out of 4chan. This dude starts by saying trolling is an art there. It seems like he ignored his own warning.
Bro… I feel like I’m in wonderland and the mad hatter is trying to get me to join him on a camping trip while calling me an idiot. That is the best way I can describe this.
Internet puzzle freaks are weird. Like, in Elite Dangerous years ago they had a hidden Guardian base in a trailer. A guy found it by calculating the positions of stars (on a fictional ingame planet in an entirely different solar system light-years from Earth) that found him the exact location. The math involved was...staggering. mind you, the image where he found the stars was a still capture of a 2 second bit of video
The more reaches that exist, the less of a reach each one becomes. If you watch that segment of the video about the whole cipher "game" then everything else in the video becomes instantly way more believable, no matter how much of a reach it seemed before
@@id1550the argument doesn’t need to be straight out of prop logic 101 for it to make sense. Even if most, if not all, of the evidence in the video is circumstantial it can still be used in the court of public opinion. After all, even DNA evidence is circumstantial. The chances that this is all a big coincidence is astronomically small, especially if you consider the extraordinarily elaborate puzzle that they put in.
Wrong. Exactly the opposite. An arrangement of Anagrams, innuendo and hints: In your mind it all adds up. In the end it is nothing but edgy trolling and brilliant marketing. Fascists are not this creative. One of them undeniably copied the Totenkopf SS logo, but you STILL have to figure out if it is a crude prank, edgy, provoking, instead of drawing the conclusion: "Obviously Nazis, it is all abot their Agenda".
1:01:00 my god. First off. Your dad is amazing and I love the interactions in the videos. Second. How quickly he knows what you meant by how they are getting away with racism by doing it in disguise. I see how you got your wisdom.
His mum was a tome of knowledge going by the snippets I've heard Asmongold quote her; perhaps a bit too far down the rabbit hole but she sounds like she knew a lot when it came to these cults and how the biggest ones are our governments. If you think Covid wasn't exactly in the same vein as all of this you're unfortunately kidding yourself, they laugh in our faces and act in plain sight while ripping us of our humanity every step of the way And it works too, the vaccination count is basically a sheep count within the human population. They said jump and people said how high without even taking a second to judge the height or if the landing would be any safer than standing their ground Asmongold is the perfect spokesperson for his and younger generations. I hope he realises his power and uses it for good, I believe he has the mental fortitude to educate a lot of people and he's certainly headed in the right direction
@@LuchP91 see, this is the problem with buying into super complex conspiracy stuff, you start to believe the real crazy stuff like the anti vaccination or covid shit. The covid vaccines were based on proven technology that was decades old at that point. The *experimental* bit was using it as an antiviral vaccine rather than a cancer treatment. And masks have been used to stop pandemics since literally the bubonic plague. Spanish flu times has people wearing masks. Now on the quarantine part, that's something thats been in law for a very long time, and I honestly don't know how I feel about it. Under quarantine laws, you can essentially be imprisoned completely against your will, on a national scale. You can be forcefully moved to different locations too. But that's been the law for decades before COVID, it's just now that people are actually understanding what such laws mean in reality. But then again, the state literally has the power and right to kill citizens (death penalty), so if they already have complete control over if you live or die, then enfirced quarantine is trivial compared to that.
@@Yottenburgen You're right to a certain degree. And yes I do see him as an ally because I agree with a lot of the things he says. He sees things a lot deeper than he did a few years ago imo. And no, I have never been banned in his chat. It just makes me happy that he covers topics like this, since he has a major influence on people and brings these subjects to a younger audience where they probably wouldn't have a clue.
If they didn't release such an elaborate puzzle it would be relatively easy for normies to cast this off as coincidence. When you know they are capable of making something so intricate, it lends even more credence to Phillion being correct.
If by normies you mean crazed twitterinos that latch onto anything remotely offensive. Actual normies will not regard or make an effort to digest any of this.
Bro, it sounds like celebrities accepting these NFTs didn’t have any basic parenting like “don’t take things from strangers”, “if it’s too good, it’s probably too good to be true” and “the only free cheese is in the mousetrap.”
The game site puzzles shows that they are excellent with puzzles and hidden messages, which makes me think it's all on purpose, those guys are way too damn smart for all this to be coincidence.
I just wanna say that the "side" Zelda games were definitely amazing on their own. Song of Ages, Minnish Cap, Four Swords, Phantom Hourglass, A Link Between Worlds, etc. These were all amazing Zelda games and I absolutely remember Yuga. I bought the Link Between Worlds custom 3DS. I agree that probably isn't who they named 'Yuga Labs' after but had to stand up against the slander!!
Same here, just because they aren’t the best known doesn’t mean they aren’t great. Tbh I prefer most of them to BotW (didn’t feel like the Zelda I knew). I’ll also be honest him saying why Yuga they should have chosen Gabon really fustrated me because it’s like Yuga is a much better fit for NFT’s than Ganon. Like yeah with everything else is unlikely but the way he presented that whole argument almost convinced me this entire video was a farce. I’m glad the I watched the rest of it but I just found it a really bad point. Yuga isn’t nerdy enough should have been ganon if you wanted to reference Zelda is not very convincing and sounds kinda well really stupid.
@@maximillion311 he was saying why use one of the least popular examples for zelda to show you’re a nerd when a majority of video game fans wont even realize what you did. Yea zelda fans know yuga, i did when they brought it up, but most video games fans have never fucking played a link between worlds lmao. Doesn’t matter anyway since they obviously just used zelda as a convenience anyway
Dont believe this guy about Hanna-Barbera antisemitic agenda? Remeber that episode of The Smurfs when indiscriminate Smurfs were smurfed by long range Smurftillery and Gargamel claimed he was the actually victim and acting in self defense? How about the episode when it turned out that Gargamel was printing "The Daily Smurf" out of his forest castle and Brainy Smurf found out, but he was forcibly silenced by Popa Smurf because Gargamel threatened him with pictures of him smurflesting a young Smurfette. Sounds like more than a coincidence to me.
The strange thing is that Deng Xiaoping actually died in 1997. (The Nerd is shocked) The game... predicted the future. In fact, 1997 was the year the United Kingdom returned the rule of Hong Kong back to China. The movie, from '94, forecast this in the tagline: "99 years of British rule are about to come to an end... Hong Kong will never be the same." The movie stars Robert Patrick, the T-1000 from Terminator 2: Judgment Day, and Judgment Day takes place... in 1997. Part of Deng Xiaoping's ear is sort of cut off, like when Mike Tyson bit off a piece of Evander Holyfield's ear in 1997. The car, I'm willing to bet, is a Mercedes Benz, in which Princess Diana died in '97. And what was the year Coca-Cola launched Surge? '97. And it's no coincidence all my surge protectors were made in China. Rebooting the entire game after you die? Just like Symphony of the Night. '97. Jackie Chan, uh, Rumble in the Bronx, uh, the Bronx, New York City, the Big Apple...(gasps) The year Steve Jobs returned to Apple in '97. The unstoppable, unrelenting song is called I Love Beijing Tiananmen, also known as I Love Peking Tiananmen. Peking Duck is a famous duck dish from Beijing. (gasps) And Scrooge McDuck had his 50th Anniversary in '97! The game was such a titanic failure. (gasps) Titanic, the movie from '97! Why was this game's sole purpose to direct us to the number 97? Huh. Like the NGC-97 galaxy in the constellation of Andromeda, the princess Andromeda who was chained naked to a rock to be sacrificed to a monster. Like Princess Leia and Jabba in Return of the Jedi. (gasps) The Special Edition of Star Wars in '97! Oh, fuck, we're back again. Man, I was just trying to get a final answer here, but I went full circle, like the song that keeps looping. A game that keeps repeating. Maybe it's all about a cycle, an endless cycle. Old, shitty games that become new again! The past becomes the future, birth and death, on and on, it's the cycle of life! The game is the meaning of life! And the thing that keeps life going: reproduction...and food...which becomes shit.
I've never heard of Bored Ape Yacht Club, the first thing I noticed watching this Video is their Logo of an ape skull is the same as Waffen SS Totenkopf division
It's amazing, her answer that people 'aped in' is perfect gaslighting. There is so much new slang and her previous answers have talked about creating a new world in which she uses some made up words aswell. It's to throw the interviewer off, the only responses are to argue with the person you are interviewing about slang that you have never heard of and might be real, or to say OK and move forward
She looked totes guilty at that point; massive emotional / tonal shift. And she cleverly changed the question to be one she could refute. She’s in on it. You don’t have to be a serial killer to write a script for a slasher movie. You don’t need to be a Nazi to do a massive MFA Flex and hide a Nazi Puzzle Room in plain sight … AND get rich off it - while commenting on influencers and crypto bros.
"How can so many Celebrities get hoodwinked by this?" Is it really that hard to believe; that vain and materialistic egotists would accept free merchandise under the guise of promotional purposes?
I agree with what you said that there are a lot of coincidences pointing in the same direction, it's like that quote; "Once is a fluke, twice is coincidence, three times is a pattern."
I think ultimately the biggest give away is The Logo. They explained away the logo in an article, and included the "email" sent for the creation of it. However the quality of the screenshot is terrible, and 95% of things that he asked the designer to add or do, were not included whatsoever. It's not uncommon to commission multiple logo's from different designers and settle on the one you like the most. So realistically there would be many more emails than one. So if people don't want to go to deep into it, honestly read the email, apply some critical thinking and boom doesn't add up to the logo they ended up using that identically relates to the racist one.
Well I think if they commissioned it to some random dude he must’ve specified that the design takes creative freedom by copying nazi logos and emblems.
Im glad he changed hes style because some of hes last video's about bodybuilding were just kinda hateful and cringy(f.e david gogins). Its very hard to reinvent yourself like this. Man has some real talent for this shit.
@@janisarbidans8931 I think attitudes regarding fitness content have changed a lot in the last few years too. When Phillion started doing those fake natty videos he was really one of the only people with any kind of platform calling that stuff out. There were a few others, but he was the biggest one I think. Nowadays people are far more aware of how toxic fake natty influencers are, and why. The popularity of channels like MPMD and Noel Deyzel are indicative of that I think.
Asmon, long time watcher. I love that you’ve expanded your content to not just have reactions but also interviews with the creator! It shows that you’re willing to grow, and as a fan, I’m here for it!
@@TehBananaBread Neither do you. You don't have to be forced into something for it be a scam. Street hustlers for example don't force you into playing their games, it's still is a scam/fraud.
@@marlo3898 If i put a selfmade tshirt on etsy for 5000 bucks and somebody buys them, did i scam them? No i didnt. Stupidity and fomo doesnt mean i deliberately went out of my way to scam people. Those street artists are deliberately setting up with the intent to scam people. BAYC is actually the opposite of a scam. It probably started as hate/satire/troll culture but after getting a lot of sales they started to take it serious and made a brand around it. Get lost.
@@marlo3898 Scams are based around the fact that you deliberately mislead people to gain a monetary gain (or something that has value). Every ape they sold for a mint price of 180 dollars is still worth 80k. How exactly did Yugalabs scam people by giving them 80k of value for 180 dollars? (not even including the 20k bonus air drop)
@@CypherDND dont take another man's bet. Its technically winnable but you are a sucker among millions. Vegas was built on "technicality". Why are you defending 3 card hustlers, bud?
Modern Nazis in Germany have become somewhat creative to show the support for their cause or to identify themselves, partwise because the use of the old symbols for such a cause is forbidden and to hide it in plain sight. So they use things like dates from Hitler's life instead. But we know trolls, don't we? It's even easier to use such things to troll. What also points in this direction is that Hitler's death date was used. I suspect that most Nazis wouldn't use that date because they don't like to be reminded of it (besides, there are at least some who don't believe he died then and instead believe in some conspiracy theories).
Agreed. The founders initially framed this as trolling and profiting off the normies/sheep, when in reality they’re trolling and getting rich off the racists. The fact that none of the founders come from European countries further proves this. As does the reference to Hitler’s classmate - it’s the feeling of being in the presence of bigots and knowing you’re smarter than them
@@mokeysamo3528 As a german guy i can tell that the ideology behind the Nazis as the superior race goes wild and is rooted back long before Hitlers crazy way to gain control in the 30s. ^^
@@arnoldjungherz2804 it's common knowledge man, I was born and raised the country next door, don't sweat too hard about the nazis, it's like knowing the earth circles around the sun, won't make any damn difference in your life, just hf and be happy mate
1:01:00 or something, when his dad called. That was so cute and sweet. I mean, yea, maybe it's because I've an awful relationship with my father and wouldn't have ever expected something similar to happen to me, but the fact that when his dad came back from shopping he got on his PC and went to watch his son's stream, is so great and lovely. I'm really happy to see this. That even tho some people think that their parents wouldn't support them if they have a career as a streamer, or something similar, that most people don't think of exactly as work, is brilliant. Thank you, mister for calling your son and being supportive, you probably don't know how much this could motivate someone to do what they want. And, yes, it depends on the person, and it could be the exception, but it doesn't matter, it happens and this is what makes me happy. No, it won't make my relationship with my father better, I won't call him or see him again, but I think and hope that someone who isn't on so bad terms with their father or family as a whole, would or at least know that they could, because you never know, especially if this is how you are able to pay your bills. One love ❤️
If I learned one thing on the internet years ago it was that most of the people I'm being told are bad.... aren't bad. And that I'm being told they're bad because bad people want me to think they are
I think my favorite part is when they go into the puzzle game site. Because everything before that seems like a huge reach, and then they show the complexity in the puzzles and it's like "oh, these guys could completely know what they're doing".
Exactly what I thought
The whole puzzle section just screams 4chan to me. Anytime you see a very elaborate puzzle like that with a very stupid or troll-ish conclusion, it's usually them.
@@Hzuuuu weaponized autism in a nutshell
You are correct, sir. However, everything he said is still a HUGE reach. The reality is, the person who made the video latched on to ONE thing, the word ape.
They hired a team. Chill
Imagine if you were being charged with a crime, and every time a piece of evidence against you was brought up, your lawyer just kept screaming "REEEACH"
But that is basically what they do. In a bit more sophisticated way though.
this would fly out of the court immediately since all of this is circumstantial evidence and no hard proof. Circumstantial evidence is indirect evidence that does not, on its face, prove a fact in issue but gives rise to a logical inference that the fact exists. maybe in civil court this could work but criminal court would need someone to admit to something, a swastika tattoo or one of those guys saying sieg heil on video. Criminal court does have higher standards due to the go to prison part of it.
Amber Heard's lawyers will definitely do that
@@0bomberjack0 You do realize that most court cases don't have legitimate hard evidence right? Beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't mean video evidence, it often means enough circumstantial evidence that the likelihood of everything being a coincidence isn't worth considering. That's why the wording is beyond a reasonable doubt and not any doubt, because there will almost always be some tiny chance
@@rheawelsh4142 thanks for repeating what i said you really added to the discussion. The different levels of proof are needed for civil and criminal cases which are two seperate courts. In civil it's mostly about money while criminal can make you a fellon and get you into prison for the rest of your life and that's where the different levels of proof come into play. Usually judges know the difference but some don't cause they're bad at their job.
"how many times does it take?":
"Once is an occurrence, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern, and patterns are worth exploring" -a wise man
Sounds like the argument for every QAnon conspiracy lmao.
I like that Quote. Who is this Wise man?
I commented the og quote then noticed this, this is a version of a James Bond quote made by goldfinger
@@lennysmileyface, qanon is false and it’s been proven when Biden won.
This is a false equivalency you’re trying to push here
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Bro lost me when he said a big nerd wouldn't pick an obscure character to name their company after. That's the nerdiest thing.
EXACTLY!! Rofl that’s peak nerd, it’s flexing how they are so nerdy that nerd about something not all nerds know about!
@halvorson566 exactly when I heard it I immediately thought back to my 13-year-old self, making gamertags referencing shit only the biggest nerds would get
Palantir has perfected this. They even named one of their products Gotham
The thing is Yuga is not at first a character at all, it is the definition of time or era in hinduism.
Google Yuga and you will find it being a lot of different things, having so many things to build a theory from. And the same logic is applied throughout the video. Its all BS.
Yuga was pretty obscure until BotW, then he and the clan became a meme back in 2017, a few years before NFT’s were even a thing. That was the biggest reach for me.
Asmongold at the start: "I'll spot any kind of crypto racism"
Asmongold throughout: "I have never heard of this"
@@davidsantiago7808 fr, you can accidentally use imagery that ends up having bad connotations, but the logo is way too fucking specific to be an accident
@@davidsantiago7808 Those are just species of monkeys...technically it is racist because it refers to race....
And even so..who cares. Calling someone a name doesnt change anything in the real world.
Buy it or dont buy it...but not everything needs a racist lens.
BTW - Hiring black people and woman under guise of "Equity Hiring"...is racist/sexist.
But you dont care about that....
These Ism's are everywhere. If you want to attack them please be consistent and not act like some blinded horse lead by societies emotional carrot.
@@Pihsrosnec and also they could just change it, but they didn’t. The 18 teeth is so intentional
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@@p0lish 🤡"aLL"
I never connected the dots to racism before, but I always believed that the name "bored apes" is a mockery making fun of the buyers. The buyers are the real bored apes.
And they all use them as pfps… they definitely are bored apes
you didnt watch the video did you
What's really funny is the left who's ideology has killed more people in the last century than every religion, ideology combined is selling people on how terrible the right is. It's beyond laughable
@@thatherton I said "I never connected the dots" not "I can't connect the dots"
Then the Ape escape series must be the most racist games ever made
as a graphic design student when I make a logo, I literally make at least 6-10 variations of it. There's absolutely no way these guys accidentally made their logo identical to that Nazi one. Like no shot. It's like asmon said, without the necessary knowledge you won't understand a lot of things. For me personally, I don't have to look past that to know it is on purpose
Yeah, and the ragged circle outline design is especially weird. I've seen like, the letter stamp circle with the wavy outline but the jaggedness of their outline is smth I've never seen anywhere before, people usually either use like one of the -gons, a straight up circle or the wavy circle perimeter like in stamps, the only 2 logos I've seen with the rough circle outline on their logo are the two logos shown in this video.
And there is absolutely no way that the national animal for both the United States and na zi germany is an eagle... Like, with all the different animals around the world, what are the odds they would both just randomly choose eagle?
Chances are miniscule. Clearly there is a connection between USA and nazism
Meme? what if they did it on purpose? it's edgy, they have our attention dont they?
No one thought they did, and you being a graphic designer was entirely irrelevant. Lol
The eye sockets are the most definitive giveaway, of course taking the text into consideration too lol
Honestly, the fact that they made people trade jpegs for millions of dollars is way funnier. The hidden racist references aren't even that imressive at that point.
Right? The racism is sort of just side flavour
yeah the fucked up a lot. realse date was a mess. ofc you take 20th of april over 30th
Exactly. People are digging but the gold is on the surface. Imagine selling a literal jpeg for millions of $$$
a link to a JPG
First of all, is not a "jpeg" neither a "link to a jpeg", but putting that aside. They are not selling only the monkey nft. Those NFT are actually used as a pass to some events. So these people do actually meet at closed doors, and knowing the racist references, what do you think they are discussing there?
The interview with those ladies with the bored ape lady giving weird circle running answers is one of the creepiest interviews I've ever seen. Is that actually real? For real?
Gave me Amber Heard vibes.
@@greenfroggood2392 "They have a background in writing, like both of them are authors so, like, they're creatives, like, they're not academic people, they're like, creatives, and so this is like a creation for them"
Bitch was like a broken record in these clips.
i think she was high on cocaine. just my opinion but she was being very grandiose.
'creepiest'?
This is why your side piece should never be given a job in public relations in your organization.
They should also mention that there is a long history of writers and artist's trolling people. The biggest troll of all time is scientology. It was 2 sci fi authors making a bet that one couldn't create an absurd religion and actually get people to follow
no fucking way. scientology isn't just a dumb bet between two writers is it?
That's lame
@@NickKrige I agree, scientology was simply a very successful attempt at creating a cult Worked like a charm.
@@NickKrige Christianity here... Hold my beer.
@@nilionth Reality is often stranger than fiction, as they say
There's no way the people who made those "puzzles" can be accidently doing any of this.
except they didn't even make the puzzle they paid a legitimate company that makes these type of things to do it, easily verifiable
@@kurtlee3198 they still would've had final say and creative control
@@kurtlee3198
Uhh…that doesn’t really PROVE anything other than the possibility that the company they contracted to do the “puzzles” were in on the troll OR BAYC had final say in what the solutions would be and all the “hidden meanings” and shit slipped completely under the contracted studio’s radar.
@@kurtlee3198 but they have someone checking everything got to be😭
I don't understand why the video needed an in-depth walkthrough of the puzzle, to me it seemed like filler. Very little of it was relevant to the thesis statement of the video, and mostly it just boiled down to "it repeatedly makes references to primates, and racists like to use primate-related slurs."
For myself, some of the evidence presented early in the video was strong, but then it seemed to devolve into a gisp gallop of sorts, and I found myself less convinced by the time the second poll was run. The argument, "how many points do you need to be convinced" struck me as a red flag; it's a generally wrong-headed approach to take, because what should matter is the quality of the evidence, or how the available evidence fits into a pattern of logic, not how many bullet points of "evidence" and loose associations you can throw at the wall. This is one of the ways people fool themselves into believing in more far-fetched conspiracy theories.
So you can make the point that ape/primate imagery/language/pseudo-science has a robust history of being used in a racist way. That is a very good point to make. But then regardless of what the intentions were behind choosing apes as the theme, you would naturally expect the project to have other ape/primate-related elements, so for those instances to be considered as new/separate pieces of evidence for the argument, there should be some really compelling additional context pertinent to each additional "point" being presented; if the additional context is a stretch, it should be given minimal weight, since we've already considered and assigned some weight to the general "apes are associated with racism" point.
I am not going to stop wearing my retro 80s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles shirts because they say that.
Cowabunga it is then.
@@mikeespinoza5733hell yea brother
Everything is a racissssmsss and supremacissssmsms
Cowabunga, dude.
What if the video was the troll?
No doubt it started out as a troll but it just snowballed into something so much bigger and ended up being a profit making machine. I don't doubt the creators never expected it to blow up as much as it did.
yeah, for the business the neo-nazi image is not the best. So they will let loose
Or and there is a possibility, the guy who made the video is lying to you.
@@YetAnotherShadowBannedAccount OMEGALUL
@@YetAnotherShadowBannedAccount You are aware that you can check whether what he said is true in under 5 minutes, yes?
You know that there are tons of sites that archive 4chan posts, yes?
You know that you can search those sites for what that guy claims is 4chan-lingo, yes?
Because I did.
Which is why I know that he is lying.
@@LuvboneX nice troll name dude, Adolf and Neumann together, bravo
There is no way to watch any documentary in youtube without the creator clipping in Asmongold into the story.
I have come to known this as Peace. If it does not happen, I am not.
This might be the time to say “chill and surf the kali yuga”
He hasn’t logged off since 2001. You’re going to run into him somewhere.
I think its really mostly just marketing. Put a big RUclipsr in there, chances are someone from their community sees it and tells them to watch it cause they its funny.
If you put in 5 of them and at least one of them reacts to it, thats another 100k views on your video the next day.
@@undsowei1erundsofor1 But the video he is promoting here is literally hidden from the platform in this case. Go ahead, try to find it. This one is probably just Asmon wanting to make this viewed.
"It's easier to fool somebody than it is to convince them that they've been fooled" true words! I remember when i snapped an old friend of mine back to reality with this quote when he was misled by a girl.
The problem is that, a lot of the time, people who use this phrase haven't truly acknowledged the underlying implications for them. The moment you accept something as true because "it came from a trustworthy source", you've opened up the possibility that you're the one being fooled. That being said, this isn't a criticism at all, but more of a reminder. It's literally impossible for anyone to function in the world without accepting most things as true that they cannot 100% individually confirm, so it's inevitable that a lot, if not most, of our beliefs are incorrect. I don't know if that made sense, but it clicks and my head and hopefully it does to anyone who reads it that might be having too much confidence in their ability to differentiate between true and false based solely on another person's words and their own intuition.
snap back to reality, ope there goes gravity
Starscream and Megatron 😎🦖
Wait. I’m not sure but
I thought Japanese version 2chan was way older than 4chan.
I’m from Japan by the way.
The name 2chan(Channel 2) comes from , back in the days(Analog TV era)
Japanese Channel wasn’t used by broadcast and we mostly used channels 2 for Line in (like connecting nintendo games or video).
New age started to grow and start to get bored against same old
broadcast TV.
So 2chan(2チャン) had meaning of frustration of old type media.
And most of the Emoji culture cane from 2chan.
Things like text base Emojis like
( ´∀｀)人(´∀｀ )
( ´Д`)y━･~~ smoking
And yes 2chan went through many problems
similar to 4chan
Sorry if my English doesn’t make sense.
Thank you Nippon Anon
7/10 english
Thanks you based OP
Thanks for the information
You speak good English
The most wholesome thing is Asmon's dad calling in. Good God I love that his Dad tunes into the stream.
And then reminisces how he provided his son with a spiked kaiser, bike helmet…
Then asmon mentioning that he put a bunch of nails sticking through his bike helmet…
Then mentioning it might not be safe to use…
Then implying that he still has the helmet…
💀 *I M P L I C A T E D* 💀
That's how you know that man was dedicated to making a good video, he was on top of it and ready to go at a moment's notice for an interview covering it's content; well done.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 idk how anyone can read what you said and know what you are talking about. That's 4/10 writing
@@vagabondwastrel2361 All videos are premade, unless you count being live as a video
Good video? All he did was waste my time on vague theories and sketchy connections with puzzles as time filler to give it a more documentary like length. FU Philon, you aint got nothing but far reaches or shit that could be explained as 4 chan inside troll humor, who gives a shit even if they got some nazi sympathies which i doubt seeing the group, it's not like they directly give money or buy weapons for nazis on a massive scale. We got the EU and US doing that right now for Ukraine. Now the Biden laptop.... that is one tasty conspiracy "theory". Shit one of the experts is a artistic (probably hedgefund) guy that made a few memes, wow! Philon brings out the big guns! I find the idea that Philon acts like he is in a Dan Brown novel by solving some monkey themed puzzles on a website where he gets monkey related answers where he looks for the most sinister correlations as explanations expecting the answers to finally bring down an evil multi billion dollar operation HILARIOUS!! Philon should stick to nattie or not like content.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 As I said, all videos are premade on youtube
@@vagabondwastrel2361 the video was uploaded a week ago. No shit it was made before the interview lol what point are you trying to make? It's not like Asmongold watched a live video.
i think one of the biggest tells that something is going on is the whole puzzle game itself. it shows that they are extremely well versed in cryptic messaging and hiding thing in plain sight. kinda makes me wonder what other types of messaging might be hidden in the bored apes NFTs.
I think it shows how smart these anons can be, and how they are figuring out more and more how to shepherd the masses, and even manipulate the "elites" of society
@@Xemptuous Oh god. We are heading into the world of Metal Gear Solid, only instead of arms dealers, the AI controlling everything will have been created by the hacker known as 4chan.
@@Xemptuous Or... the more likely reality, it just shows how good they are at trolling and getting people riled up about "something" that is actually nothing, and how so many people like yourself get roped into it. 4chan has done very elaborate trolls before, but they're just that, trolls. And obviously Anons are "smart"... Anonymous started out on 4chan, as well as other fringe hacker groups, it's a HUGE community, many of which are cyber geeks, obviously they'd have skills in technology here and there.
Cryptography games aren't rare at all. Lots of games, Escape from Tarkov for example, have had them as promotional contests. Most of the puzzles give you the cipher too so it's not that much of a puzzle.
@@gelatinousturncoat It's bog standard fare to anyone who has participated in or was otherwise involved with some ARG really. Some of the imagery and weirdly specific namedropping does raise an eyebrow, but not much more.
I think the game was the smoking gun. The game was the proof that they were willing to think deeply, favor cryptic puzzles and use hidden meanings. That makes all the other reaches plausible, along with it being created by writers but then having almost no "story" told explicitly.
Everybody's eyes being burned out is harking to Ezikiels chariot. They're being blatant in their messaging about how stupid people are to fly too close to the sun. With themselves playing the sun in the story. It's a disease but people who do this shit cant stop. They're committed.
This is a great point here
I agree but then again I'm asking what is the benefit for the creators?
Pushing their Nazi agenda with symbolism and messages so well hidden that 99.9999% of people can't even understand it...
15 min in, ts feels like a complete conspiracy.
(48:35, what the hell is ts)
@@PychPmpa reach, a big one
What people need to understand is that 4Chan does work with layers upon layers upon layers of crap like this. That's literally the bloody point, being so absurd and so obscure that normal people just shrug it off as "Pfft that's ridiculous" because yes it is and that's the point. That's why exposing them as racists or of using racist conotations and such has always been so hard.
thats so bloody reuw m8
or you lefties simply make stuff up 😅
praise kek
Oh no some losers called them racists, how will they recover
Oh yeah, a simple political version of this is something like "forced bussing" or inner city management, somethings that sounds like boring city crap but really deal with racist shit pushed by Republicans. Which 4Chan took a look at that, looked at the KKK, and white nationalists, and said, we can make it more obscure
Despite the context and intentions, this whole cryptic puzzle thing is quite impressive to be honest. Reminds me of the Cicada 3301 event from 10 years ago
just came on to say the same thing, only using Human Pet as an example. Those ARGs were amazingly well put together.
Respect for the cryptography 🔐
@@laneswerve Even if they aren't using it for racist ends the fact they're using if for trash NFT bullshit it's still being used for evil which is disappointing...
yeah i love the cicada stuff all this puzzle into puzzle into puzzle stuf is amazing and blows my mind
There was another project called Genopets where they did something alike
(cipher and google geolocation) to find the answer under a certain amount of time to be able to access a key to mint an NFT. I've participated in all of them, and it was challenging AF but so fun and rewarding!
At the end in the interview he mentions where the logo shows up with the jagged edges... but he fails to mention its on the front page of the official website. The logo in the footer is actually a transparent PNG, but you can't tell because its black on a black background. If you look at the image alone, it has the same jagged edge. Hidden in plain sight.
For me, those jagged/rippled edges of the circular logo were the clincher. When you combine everything else with the fact they created this logo, added a SKULL to it right where the SS' logo has the skull, with the text in the same places on both logos, you can no longer say there's nothing here. Come on. How many round logos do you remember seeing with rippled/jagged edges? I can't think of a single one. That's when I took everything else seriously, and after two views, imo, there's zero percent chance this wasn't completely planned and designed. I don't know or even think these guys are white supremacists, but they're definitely trolls.
@@willd.8040 Of course they're trolls but the implication is that they're alt-right white supremacist nazis. Why was this video made and why is it doing the rounds on Twitch? You know they use these platforms to influence peolpe and to propagate naratives.
@@willd.8040 The whole jagged edge emblem is complete bs. Nazis or Prussians never had jagged imagery or paraphernalia, ever. What was more common was just the skull itself. When it was as an emblem, it was ALWAYS just circular or oval, not jagged. You will never find the jagged edge in any Nazi or Prussian army uniforms, rings, lockets, books, imagery, etc, because that is not how that emblem looks. I do not know where the author of that video found those images with the jagged edge, but as a WW2 buff myself, I've NEVER seen that logo displayed like that in my entire life. It certainly was not worn like that by the SS or the Totenkompf division.
@@tlanimass952 Im pretty sure new age neo nazis use jagged egdes and more metal adjacent imagery a lot atleast here in germany thats quite common. obviously no one is saying those kinds of styles were used in actual nazi uniforms back in the day.
@@tlanimass952 You missed the point.
The jagged nazi emblem was used on the internet before NFTs were a thing. Then it was copied by the bored ape guys.
Nobody claimed that it was used back in WW2 on uniforms.
Update via wikipedia:
In April 2023, federal judge John F. Walter of the United States District Court for the Central District of California issued a summary judgment in Yuga Labs' favor, with damages to be determined at trial.[71] The judge ruled that Ripps and his partner Jeremy Cahen had committed "false designation of origin" and "cybersquatting" and that Yuga Labs was entitled to an injunction and damages.[71][72] Following the court trial, Judge Walter ruled that Yuga Labs was entitled to recover all $1.3 million of Ripps' and Cahen's profits from the sale of the copycat NFTs, plus $200,000 in damages for cybersquatting, plus attorneys' fees; the ruling was made public in October 2023.[73]
Surfing the Kali Yuga TO THE END
LOL
Based judge.
Classic example of Juice juicing juice.
Team Yuga are juice.
Ripps is a juice.
Judge is a juice.
This is the orange juice world order. Praise the vitamin C
So nothing refuting their theory.
Honestly with how elaborate all those puzzles were I’d reconsider calling anything a reach. That’s was pretty insane and I wouldn’t put it past them to make things so damn obscure they’re often mistaken as just a “reach”
I love your profile pic
Want to add me on predecessor?
I'm sure Anastasia loved those hexes.
Did anyone think about her?
Yea I was firmly in the "this sounds like conspiracy theory nonsense" camp until seeing how elaborate and intricately designed that puzzle was. Hard for me to believe the guys who came up with that puzzle put no hidden meaning into their initial designs.
The aperol thing was silly. The video could be cut down by at least 10 minutes
This hole thing is total BS
Asmon might have the coolest Dad ever. He even watches the streams! There's parents out there right now, with 12 year olds. That don't show as much interest in what their kid likes doing. As much as asmons Dad does, with asmon being a grown ass man! Respect dude!
Nerd
"There 'is' parents out there right now".
Find the error and you pass 1st grade.
@@ocrapo9327 You correcting a RUclips comments grammar is literally what a 1st grader would do lmao.
@@ocrapo9327 Cor ain't you clever mister random internet guy. Trust me we are all really impressed.
@@ocrapo9327 1inchpunch is lying. Nobody thinks it's impressive
Props to Zack for a great interview, especially on-the-spot like that. He's such a professional. Great video.
Literally, asking legit thought-out questions
How is he so good at interviews without preparation ?
this is asmongold, zack's brother
man i love the relationship you have with your dad, makes me wish the same. With all my heart i hope you two live long and be happy
32:02
i actually remember seeing that photo studying history. I'm 99% sure (and this is the worst part) that, in that photo, the man is actually staring at the hands of his daughter, who had been cut off to punish him.
It's a sick world
You're right, I remember that photo as well.
Speaking as a father, id do everything in my power to hurt the people who did this to my child. It would become my life's mission to get revenge.
That's England and USA MoD.
@@mohammedsiddiqui3062Not saying you're in the right or wrong but what do you mean? The executioner? The one giving the order? The higher up (Cartel boss, warlord, general)? Everyone?
@@DamianSzajnowski they call him John Wick now
This man broke down the video extremely well and then with a surprise ending to interview the creator of the video…..Your the man, what a journey this was
@@ginorvdw here to help 🤙
Meanwhile XQC's reaction : Waaaiiitt whaaatt with confused face for an hour.
Philion has a great channel
@@K0RGAN0S7I’ve always really struggled to understand what people like about XQCs reaction content. He seems genuinely stupid and never seems to understand what he’s seeing or listening to…his takes are ridiculous a lot of the time and based on a complete misunderstanding of the information given. He adds little/no input to the things he watches mainly just saying “whaaaaaat, no waaay” etc on repeat
He seems unable to grasp even the simplest of concepts 🤦🏼♀️
Does he do something else that people enjoy other than just reactions…like gaming or something? Cuz if not I really don’t understand how he has so many subscribers 😅
@@vamvam7690 its a "we're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you" situation
Honestly this was a really good video by asmongold covering a really good video by Philion.
Huge respect for both for having a discussion on this as well!
The fact that he uses the words "alt right" unironically and believes KEK is a racist dogwhistle should let you know not to take this guy seriously.
@@catra195 alt-right was a term coined by Richard Spencer... You realize that when everyone points to an obvious Nazi being an obvious Nazi and you make these kinds of statements in their defense it ruins any credibility you have right?
@@aslemartinsen5284 this is hardly digging "deep" or stretching "long" can we be fucking honest
The title "Alt Right" means nothing to me anymore. Thanks to media accusing everyone of being "alt right."
@@SemtexZero He said that the title "alt right" means nothing to him anymore. Thanks to media accusing everyone of being "alt right".
@@jojolafrite90😂
As intended.... the fire rises
Everything is alt right
Also, when you can accuse every race to be white supremacists it loses all meaning. "Oh, just because you're black you think you can't be a white supremacist?" Yes, exactly, and you're insane if you think otherwise.
It's absolutely a troll. And I'd argue that little to none of the accusations are reaches, considering if we look at the puzzle we know that they are incredibly smart. They're not stupid, smart to a point that it's hard to believe there'd be any coincidences within it all. With all the information together it all seems purposeful. Carefully calculated and crafted by people who knew exactly what they were doing before they even started BAYC. They aren't being called racists. Or nazis. Or any of that. They're being called trolls, trolls that pulled off the biggest troll. And of course they wont admit it because of how much money they're making.
Good take. Just a bunch of white people taking advantage of the new crypto tech hidden behind mystery. But what brought them together was making fun of 'apes' lol. Wholesome
That's the point. Individually most of the accusations are reaches, but when looking at all of them together, there is no way you can claim it's a coincidence.
@@rayquaza1245 reminds me of Fleming's quote from 007 "once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three time is enemy action." Except in this case it would be "three time is trolling"
@@rayquaza1245 you can though. Have you seen literally any other conspiracy theory they all have similar connections and if you look hard enough you can find connections like that with anything (this has been tested). Ancient aliens and the moon landing conspiracy use similar tactics. Not saying it's not true but none of this counts as proof in science or law. You can say it's likely but not proven.
At what point does trolling become embracing? Just trolling hasn't been a valid defense for a couple years now. These people are spreading Nazi symbolism to people who don't think it's a joke at all. They see it as an acceptance and endorsement of a disgusting view of life.
It's beyond laughable you don't think racist trolls are actually racist. Just a joke, right? Sure.
I have not watched much of Asmund but the relationship with his father is really cool. Seems like his dad is really interested in his son and the things he is into. I hope me and my kids can have that relationship when they are older.
I hope so for my future kids as well.
I was home over the holiday break and I was doing dishes at my parent’s house and watching a podcast while doing so (at like 25% iPhone speaker volume lol) and my dad comes over from a different part of the house and rudely/coldly says, “Turn that off.”
Of course, I ask, “Why?” And he just responds with, “It’s boring. Who cares about their lives?”
Keep in mind I’m a 33 year old dude that lives across the country from my parents and is married… it’s not like he’s trying to police what I’m watching lol. He was just being a dick.
Yeah I wish my father was like that.
@@user-dj9iu2et3rnot really being a dick, hes just telling you that you can do something more productive than listen to some dudes talk about their lives on youtube
Good ol asmund
Based comment
im still blown away they made an entire game with puzzles and messeges all throughout. Thats some dedication, also, the hat with the skull on it that the monkey was wearing was the dead giveaway for me in the rolling stones poster not just the monkey hand
Deathshead isn't a nazi symbol though its a symbol for elite/cavalry units of the time thats still used today
The deathshead isn't a purely German symbol or a racist symbol,its an international symbol thats been used or is used by damn near every nation on earth
Its a symbol of elite cavalry or elite units or a symbol of danger
And if the Totenkof IS racist, then the USMC and US Army are racist, the German army is racist, the Portuguese army is racist, the polish are racist, the Royal Air Force is racist, and pretty much every US Cavalry unit is racist as they ALL use the Totenkof to this very day
@@nicholasbrown668 again, all these points make a line. A pattern is a pattern, and when all of these widly different points have two possible patterns have 2 possible interpretations, where one of them is nazi, its worth thinking about. I know analogies are risky but: its like meeting someone and they have 500 red flags, would you give them the benefit of the doubt?
@@RealLifeAlias ok then all those points of western militaries using the Totenkof make a line therefore they are racist and nazis
To be FAIR, Snoop Dogg has never turned down a paying gig. If you think he is a knowledgeable about everything he has been in, you would be wrong.
I do have to disagree with 2666 being a “nazi story”. Bolaño writes often about fascists and nazis, but his work is very strongly against fascism as a whole.
"I've been on the internet for 20 years. I recognize them all. (Racist imagery)"
Asmon summed up the internet.
(edited comment)
Definitely standard issue for the internet 😂😭
@@Starius2 I’ve been on the internet for 20 years, discrimination is standard issue and expected 💯
@@Starius2 denial
@@Starius2 ""BUT MUH" "Nothing like a lazy trope". Oh the Ironing
Man. I thought I was online a lot, but this is just out of my reality. Dude, at this point I'm just amazed by how deep the iceberg goes. Like, all this effort to sneak some dog whistles into NFTs? I'm happy they're using their efforts for this, because these guys seem like they have the sheer determination to be supervillains and *actually* take over the world or some shit if they ever get bored wasting their powers trolling.
Aren’t you glad there are people who will explore the entire iceberg
Not wasting. They're making millions of dollars.
@@ckorp666 nah they scam other morons they dont need to
they are following the Golden rule. Who ever has the gold makes the rules.
Honestly, all of them could be zodiacs. Ngl. Their level of dedication to make themselves feel smart and clever just to add hints of racism in comments and whole threads is kind of disturbing. They could make cyphers that take three experts to figure out because some dedicate that much time and effort for literally no reason.
They don't have to be racist in order to troll using racist imagery. Especially if they're (semi-) nihilists or want to get genuine racists to give them money.
100% these guys know what they're doing, there's no way it's all a coincidence that's some dream luck.
anything that uses numerology is a fucking conspiracy theory
And yet people still want to avoid it or pretend otherwise. They keep trying to look at things in an isolated case in order to try and justify it even though the whole video is about a vast, sprawling picture. It's a shame that so much of this comment section alone adds fuel to that fire and if anything proves how far their influence has gone.
@@DerelictSong I guess me having my own sort of experience with these sorts of things and these kinds of people led me to knowing full well what they're like, so I already got it, simpler than it may appear at first. Most other people don't usually see that.
TL;DR for the people who do stuff like this, they're usually severely mentally ill but do everything in their power to make it seem like they are a savant instead. In their path to doing so, they probably do gain some good level of intelligence, but their unchecked mental illness that only gets worse means this intelligence gets shuffled and misguided.
@@theblobconsumes4859 I bet you believed Trump colluded with Russia too.
ah really man 🤦♂️
If it's a troll they better have receipts that it's meant as a troll. I'd say the most convincing things are the logo, the price tags with the 14 and 88, but also the thing about the prisoner is too convenient. The price itself is pretty interesting because while it can just mean random people are setting random prices it can also mean those randoms are showing they've figured it out.
Numbers are a BIG thing with them. It's so they can put them in plain sight but still deny it. Out of all the symbols they use. Numbers are the biggest thing. As it makes them look smart.
ah yes guilty until proven innocent at its best.
assume the worst of people with zero evidence because thats just how you roll I guess
its a troll. its a great troll, its terrible as anything else and people that smart dont do things badly.
The price tag is the troll.
@@xelloskaczor5051 Yeah they are not nazis, just massive trolls, who managed to pull an amazing stunt, I was a bit worried at the start but everything checks out if you pay a little of attention later. The funniest part is how they make fun of the people that defend them, that one is hilarious.
In my experience with 4chan trolling. They only use this symbolism because it sets people off so hard. They also end up getting surrounded by actual nazis who think they've found like minds. Whom they then troll even harder. And what greater troll than getting a nazi to pay tens of thousands of dollars to signal they see the symbolism and think they'll be recruited or part of the in crowd. When really their gonna stay sitting at home wasting money on stupid jpegs
Conspiracies like this really fascinate me. Individually it can all be minor coincidences, or reaches to connect the dots.. But the further you dig into the rabbit hole the number of coincidences gets so high that its almost impossible to ignore. Thats not to say theres any credit to it either though, as there are so many conspiracies like this where you can connect all kinds of obscure references but genuinely are just a strange coincidence.
I still don't know how i feel about this one though, the logo itself is probably the biggest red flag for me. Ive never liked the look of it, but never understood why until now, and once you see the connection its very hard not to associate the two afterwards. Even if this was done by mistake, you would 100% change it the moment you realised, and its not like the logo is such a unique design that it would hold some sentimental value to them as a company. You'd scrap that shit immediately.
You would make the logo look more like the nfts itself.
literally read coinspiracies and coin-incidences
This cant be a coincidence.
the original nfts themselves with the hats were a huge red flag for me as well. And also the puzzle shows that they aren’t randomly doing stuff and fully aware of details so those two really tweaked me.
funny how most people are not doubting this but will call the pizza thing with children in DC "circumstantial evidence"
But that DC stuff is just an Alt-Right "Dog Whistle"
Usually the ones making claims of Dog Whistles are the ones with the Agendas
Further proof of their trolling having a point, adding to that, why is their stuff treated as a crime? They are literally being edgy and as their rep said, they are not white, and yet you don't see this rage against true abuse by the average international corpo
The guy of the video claims "they took our money" when in fact they didn't have anything taken from them, just mindlessly raging against what they are told to rage
Comet ping pong thing was real. James Alefantis' ig was disgusting
lol I bet you think the election was stolen
...people literally went there, it doesn't have a basement. Circumstantial evidence? Non-existent, more like. More than one person has tried too, didn't one guy bust down a door just to find some old cash registers and cleaning equipment.
"Even saying what it is makes people feel stupid." HOLY SHIT. My dude just found a way to describe my initial reaction to NFTs, I didn't know that was possible! Like my instincts at the time were sensing BS, at the time I was thinking maybe I was just too dumb to understand it. Trying to describe to myself what I was thinking felt more like a vague description of a feeling than anything. Like I thought briefly maybe I should just go with it because the people pushing NFTs were clearly "smarter" than I am and of course the leaders we should be following are the intelligent ones. I am SO GLAD I have been involved in politics enough to realize super intelligent people can exist on both the right and wrong side, IF there even is only one correct, or only one wrong side. That realization prevented me from falling for some serious shenanigans and I didn't even understand why until just now. My mind is blown.
@@Sercotani Yeah my initial attempts to understand things were a bit embarrassing... Too easy to not think about it during my younger years, citing being too busy with my individual problems and whatnot lol. Guess that's just part of maturing as a person.
Anyways, um... I bought a whole bunch of shungite rocks, do you know what shungite is? Anybody know what shungite is? No, not Suge Knight, I think he's locked up in prison. I'm talkin' shungite. Anyways, it's a two billion year-old like, rock stone that protects against frequencies and unwanted frequencies that may be traveling in the air. That's my story, I bought a whole bunch of stuff. Put 'em around the la casa. Little pyramids, stuff like that.
Its weird, I had the same inital BS sensation when I first started seein this stuff take off. I felt I was missing something, but I think due to not fully understanding I got kinda pulled away from it interest wise. Still dont get why NFT stuff got so popular, or how you can sink that much money into it. D: Its way beyond me, but pretty glad I just opted to stay away from it at first glance lmao. Seems way to shady to me, reminded me of watching Kitboga with all the scams goin on every day.
I'm terrified to realize there are people that have thought processes like this and ones that are even worse... " Like I thought briefly maybe I should just go with it because the people pushing NFTs were clearly "smarter" than I am and of course the leaders we should be following are the intelligent ones." The amount of people that operate on this logic is terrifying.
@@Sercotani Seriously, like wtf am I reading. This is stuff you learn in preschool, you see it in cartoons as a kid. Wtf is this. How many cartoons and kid's shows where the bad guy is an evil genius. There is so much media and culture where this is the premise that are out there, I don't understand how one can be past the age of 7 years old and not at least somewhat be aware or keen about smarter people trying to manipulate them. Did your parents never tell you to watch out for people trying to manipulate you? Watch out for adults or smarter people trying to coerce you. This is so sad, but this is reality, you have to realize that there are more stupid people than smart people. Idiocracy is what we are living in. If you're of average or above intelligence you happen to be one of the rare ones now...
"How can so many celebrities fall for this shit?"
-Man who drinks his Dr pepper raw.
The problem with ironic racism is that it attracts actual racists and eventually the true believers crowd out the ironic trolls.
This is literally the story of 4chan.
Is it? I think the problem is the exact opposite, it's that it attracts people who are even more ironic and incapable of insincerity, up to the point where people are buried so far under irony that they don't even know what reality is any more.
@@Nukestarmaster why not both?
@@Nukestarmaster You just declscribed basically the same thing. The issue is when the result of trolling racism and actual racism are the same (spreading racist ideology that leads to worse attitudes toward and treatment for groups of people), then the two are functionally no different and intent ceases to matter.
>people crying about how thousands of years old survival mechanism is a bad thing!
The sleep is deep indeed...
Racism is human nature it is a question of whether society can rise above it. Only the West has tried and it seems to failing apart after a century long attempt.
Taking trolling seriously gives trolls more power
I was a history major, and these crafty bastards are very well educated. Their schtick is pretty overtly apparent to a trained eye, but damn is the general public alarmingly oblivious.
Moment I saw their totenkopf logo, I knew they were up to some wild shit and trying to gaslight everyone into thinking they weren't.
Props to BAYC for so completely pulling the wool over the public eye, and even greater props to the folks who call them out.
As if our "modern democracies" were more desirable than the alternate outcome of the two great wars back then.
The world's incredibly messed up with all these forced migrations happening and everything being uglified. I'd take a world where that doesn't exist any day of the week, no matter how much death it costs.
if you a history major, then you've looked up Nazis stuff. bingo, flagged by the FBI.
Thats the joke. Triggered emotional nerds. hehe...nothing more than that.
36. $3800 OK there and that was all through nonunion. Yeah yeah OK
And props for them not only humiliating the suckers when the suckers don’t even realize it, AND make tons of money off of them
@@thehoodedteddy1335honestly there's LITERALLY no proof in this entire video that anything like this is actually happening. Bunch of maybes. Like when destiny had to remove that skin cause it was Nazi like. Shit can happen accidentally. History is long and a lot of shit can be taken any which way. White supremacy at this point is a myth. I see none of it.
What's hilarious is my Dad had the same response. I guess I didn't know that there was already a precedent for this kind of stuff.
Lol
what was the precedent?
@@suigetsuh17 Other trolls/racists incorporating fascist dog whistles in mainstream media
This was mind boggling, incredible story. Really makes you wonder about how much of society is just some ones joke, man you just opened a whole can of worms for me. Not to say i already didnt have reservations but when is just laid out in front of you like this its just staggering.
What gets stranger is that this is the real internet in the video. The internet most people see, websites and social media, is dead. It’s been flooded with AI engagements, fake reviews, fake conversations, and even fake news articles for the past decade.
The stuff on 4chan and what these trolls create are real human ideas. The internet most people see is AI. There is no person behind it.
"Really makes you wonder about how much of society is just some ones joke..."~just a regular buffoon. Jokes aside, pretty neat quote.
People are still in denial. Openly. Let that sink in.
It's either elaborate troll or confirmation bias. This dude seems to be tunnel visioning. Although it could also be true, but a series of reaches when stacked together will always look convincing.
The really insane thing is here in America we have allowed all of these people who are "elite" in society to divide us all into nice neat little groups. That they then use to push violence and discourse among the masses. Left, right, it doesn't matter b/c behind closed doors these insidious assholes are one UNIT who know what they want. And we all fell for it and continue to do so instead of seeing all this bs in America for what it is & unite against them. Elite bid for money, power, control of us, of all. All we see is two sides that "hate' one another when in reality WE are hating one another while they pull the strings becoming massively wealthy off of our chaos they create.
Imagine being so wealthy and influential, a caricature of an ape sets you off. I will never understand the problems of the super rich.
58:55 She seems so uncomfortable and careful answering that question. I found it funny when she mentioned a few partners and their ethnicities, as if someone's race/nationality automatically determines their political beliefs.
Interesting video though, a few reaches but some seem too coincidental to be accidental. It wouldn't surprise me if it was all a 4Chan style joke that got out of hand.
How would you ever call it "out of their hands" when they made a fuckin puzzle (with at least 2 pitfalls that purposefully mock the solver that they are wasting their time) using advanced cryptography. These guys are writers who studied the other greatest minds of their time and this is their own masterpiece. They know exactly what they are doing. Its been the same joke all along.
@@White__Ink Oh totally. I meant things blew up and went further than they expected. I assume they couldn't have predicted their "joke" would become the massive phenomenon it is now.
@@averageryan4965 Ah gotcha. Yeah. Those guys never expected the 5th ape with that hollywood mogul. Then they full send it!
Yeah that was sus.
I'm exhausted just thinking about the amount of thought and effort it took to put all of this together.. truly fascinating.
Which is exactly why history will not remember your name.
@@monehgetcalm down bud
@@origintrackz5235reaching sure but when it’s 50 different examples, those coincidences don’t seem so much like coincidences
@@monehget coming from a guy who has a playlist about being on a fucking keto diet
@@ladyofthedarkmoonlotus the "keto historian"
The puzzles and cyphers solidified it. A group that puts that much effort into cyphers and attention to detail can see the links they are creating.
"Everything is sexist, everything is racist, and you have to point it out!" - Asmongoloid 2023.
Imagine if you were being charged with a crime and every time a piece of evidence against you was brought up, 40% of the room kept giggling.
atleast you know the jury will never unanimously agree right ? that is if you get a fair jury
@@bored588 Depends on the crime, not all crimes need an unanimous vote from the jury.
I think it's a deliberate joke they are playing on gullible celebrities. A way of showing the world that celebrities are clueless and that they just jump on hype to try and stay relevant. It's clearly racist but I don't think they are racist but it's definitely grounded in racism so they can make the joke better. When this comes out it will humiliate celebrities and so called influencers. That is what I think their goal is, to make all the celebs get humiliated.
A joke or not, painting clear racism in a popular light... That don't look good regardless of the perspective.
Isn’t it at least equally about money?
The images are outrageously “valued” based on what? Whatever people will pay. eBay fake posts “selling” a Beanie Baby for $20,000 for example posted by the persons trying to sell Beanie Babies (BB) for profit are kinda genius. The average buyer has no clue and doesn’t even know how to distinguish a “first release” from a future release.
These NFT’s were a fad, designed imo to transfer money from “buyers” to profit “sellers” when the entire concept of NFT’s was in itself something that most people cannot even comprehend… as in the TV host Jimmy Fallon saying it’s his first nft. He probably paid zero, but due to behind the scenes manipulation, believes it’s “worth” $750,000.
I remember my teen daughter wanting to invest in these back in 2019??? I warned her they are b.s. designed to get people to buy an image that’s worth nothing except if you can resell it, like an electronic image Pyramid Scheme.
At least Beanie Babies you can hold!
My dog destroyed a “super rare Buffalo 🦬 BUFFALO BB, one just these is on eBay for $15,000! Hah!
It’s in pieces and my dog is fond of it, I got it at a Thrift store for $1
Worthless.
However- if someone had offered me big $$$ for it? For sure id take the $
So, the nft is a troll of “art” and “investment”
The monkey and racist crap is bcuz, imo, the creators were just trying to prove how shallow the “investors” are but that they really only care about money.
“Even if” as in “Even if” these particular nft’s had a very racist origin, the “investors” wouldn’t care.
So, imo, these BAYC folks basically got very creative and created an entire back-story to set up anyone and everyone.
Kind of like if CS Lewis or Tolkien who created their own universes had signed copies of the characters in their books that resold for huge $$$
But, then, some “hidden” backstory exposed CS Lewis or Tolkien character as having secret hidden ties to promoting some very abhorrent behavior, political or religious movement.
So “as if”, CS Lewis or Tolkien then were actually writing their fantasy books to push an agenda that once it was exposed, lovers of their books would be in a moral dilemma and forced to either reject the “conspiracy” or essentially “ignore” it.
Once these BAYC NFT’s have low or no value, their prices will plummet.
But, imo, they will then become somewhat valuable because the BAYC NFT’s will represent how easily people were trolled.
It’s a puzzle, meant to be solved.
Again- “as if” CS Lewis or Tolkien hand signed books and artwork was sold for huge $$$ there’s no way “investors” are destroying it on principle bcuz people are greedy.
Using monkeys was an “in your face” troll. The Hitl er stuff just crams it into people’s throats even further.
It’s kind of obvious but so obvious it’s obviously a troll.
Why?
Because if it wasn’t a troll, there would’ve been some effort to hide it.
The effort was into “exposing” some “right” conspiracy which was the point, imo.
Humans are greedy.
Congratulations- they sold racist- themed images to people who brag they are opposed to the very racism they’ll happily invest in and get wealthier off of.
Hypocrisy.
The 3DS is one of the best selling systems of all time link between worlds was one of the stand out best reviewed Zelda games. I do agree with a lot of the other points, but even if this game was obscure, I do think a nerd would name their company after an obscure game
@@Xiatter wow yeah barely over 4 million meanwhile 75 million 3ds were sold so that’s super surprising to me but still my point about obscurity still stands. I feel like the nerdier you are the more obscure your references. My current dnd character is based off two random words from the ancient language in the eragon book series that aren’t even said in the books they are just part of the dictionary
more likely he chose it BECAUSE it was obscure? Wasn't that the whole point of the video? Obscure information?
@@TIMOZ1992tf does that even mean?
@@mikeespinoza5733 yeah but it isnt even obscure. The game sold a ton of copies and yuga is a fairly popular zelda character, just not as popular as ganon or link. Like if you have watched or interacted with other zelda fans you know yuga lmao
Same. I had a character named alkaizer from saga frontier because it was one of my favorite games as a kid. I did it. Im sure other people do it.
I still believe it's just an extremely elaborate troll made by very intelligent writers who don't give a fuck and grew up on internet culture.
I think it's so wholesome how his dad was watching the stream
Lmao at Asmon being like "thankfully you have me here as my guide" and then he continues to say "I've never heard of this" for everything that's said :D
Don't you think that means there could be some bullshit like "cowabunga" being racist? Not only is that used everywhere, but that meme is just a universal "Oh, so you have chosen violence" kind of meme.
@@MegaManDied you missed it by a mile. Fitting username too.
If a Internet Journeyman kind of people like Asmon can get caught off guard, what about common people?
This troll was so deliberate that even you need a help from a good cypher to figure it out.
I also like how the video itself references him as an expert on 4chan bs haha
@@White__Ink I'm dyslexic don't discriminate, Mega Man is my favorite video game
Finally… my man Philion getting some attention. Thank you asmon.
I bailed after the noel video but if all his new stuff is this good I might have to go catch up
the guy is just trying to promote his own nft this is full of bullshit, fool.
He was doing pretty well then Noel video came up and everyone turned on him, Losing views and subs but now his content is really good.
As a serious gaming nerd, the Zelda explanation for yuga is really good. The theme of the game is 3d to 2d. It’s a clever name.
I thought the same, that name makes sense and is clever for what it’s being used for 🤷♀️
The ‘other option’ given in the video was a massive reach and made far less sense lol
@@vamvam7690yeah and you never know which Zelda game is who’s favorite.
Seeing everything else I think it’s plausible they looked for other things named Yuga. Maybe.
The thing about all the little detais is that they could've been very easily midified to add much more denyability, but they weren't. Like for instance the banana swastika. They coul've just flipped it, but they didn't. It's arms go in exact same direction.
It's little things like that.
thats not that little
same with GEs logo. They've changed it a dozen times since 1900 but always keep the swastik- i mean swirl.
i mean Philion really does know how to chain together a good investigative story if anything else its highly entertaining and freaking wild
He's a hack, Remember his video about Noel Deyzel being bad for the fitness community even though he's honest about his PED use and makes good informative content for beginners?
Philion can't be trusted about anything
Def entertaining but the most massive reach i have ever seen😂 so many little things they just blast right through
"most massive reach i have ever seen" Boy that's pretty ridiculous to say. A couple coincidences, sure. But when you know as much about how these kinds of messages and groups operate, this is pretty standard for white supremacist trolling and messaging.
@@totenfurwotan4478 how do you explain the nazi imagery picture quickly
@@ghulaa Monkeys paw. A very common fable. But for some reason the guy in the video is relating monkeys to black people... really makes you think. Maybe its the people who see racism in everything all the time who are the true racist and are projecting their own thoughts onto others.
I also think that the people used all the nazi and racist references as inside joke, like edgy and dangerous things in order to make people look stupid like having black rappers flaunt their apes without knowing the true meaning, this kinda of stuff is a big power trip to some people, don't really think the guys are racists or neo nazis but using those references in plain sight and make people put so much value on it without knowing is a fucking amazing feat, it's literally making a fool out of the world and getting filthy rich while doing it, making a fool of people alone is enough for those 4chan guys to put their souls on it, it's legendary level trolling.
/pol/tards like larping as nazis because it offends people. While I'm certain that some of them unironically believe such things, I think they are massively outnumbered by those who are doing it for a laugh (and those who are psychologically incapable of sincerity).
naw theyre actually racist, mainly homophobic but some st least are racist
Ikr I’m more in awe than feeling any animosity and I get virulently angry at racism in action. It doesn’t feel like it’s actually furthering any racist cause, just a combination of up their ass trolls and actual idiot racists playing a cute little game.
@@DrGandW You dont feel animoisty towards people who glorify nazism and white supremacy?
Do you know what a political dogwhistle is? Do you know what propaganda is and how harmful it could be? With all due respect you guys are delusional giving these people ANY benefit of the doubt, with all this evidence. Their intentions and beliefs are clear and blatant.
Eh. Ive seen people claim trees, milk, mathematics and liking Dolly Parton songs are all "racist". It wouldnt surprise me if the biggest edgelord troll ever came out of 4chan. This dude starts by saying trolling is an art there. It seems like he ignored his own warning.
Bro… I feel like I’m in wonderland and the mad hatter is trying to get me to join him on a camping trip while calling me an idiot.
That is the best way I can describe this.
Excellent description. Really suits this material.
Internet puzzle freaks are weird. Like, in Elite Dangerous years ago they had a hidden Guardian base in a trailer. A guy found it by calculating the positions of stars (on a fictional ingame planet in an entirely different solar system light-years from Earth) that found him the exact location. The math involved was...staggering. mind you, the image where he found the stars was a still capture of a 2 second bit of video
That's actually awesome! 💀
Asmongold's dad calling in and tuning into the stream really hit the feels
The lore for this NFT goes hard lol 😂
1:17:00 Bro this HAD to be a troll sponsor video of the NFT 🤣
The more reaches that exist, the less of a reach each one becomes. If you watch that segment of the video about the whole cipher "game" then everything else in the video becomes instantly way more believable, no matter how much of a reach it seemed before
Yeah the puzzle arg thing shows that they have the know how to hide this stuff pretty well. So it's quite plausible
I feel like this is a whole logical fallacy, not sure what it’s called though
@@id1550the argument doesn’t need to be straight out of prop logic 101 for it to make sense. Even if most, if not all, of the evidence in the video is circumstantial it can still be used in the court of public opinion. After all, even DNA evidence is circumstantial. The chances that this is all a big coincidence is astronomically small, especially if you consider the extraordinarily elaborate puzzle that they put in.
@@id1550confirmation bias
Wrong. Exactly the opposite. An arrangement of Anagrams, innuendo and hints: In your mind it all adds up. In the end it is nothing but edgy trolling and brilliant marketing. Fascists are not this creative. One of them undeniably copied the Totenkopf SS logo, but you STILL have to figure out if it is a crude prank, edgy, provoking, instead of drawing the conclusion: "Obviously Nazis, it is all abot their Agenda".
1:01:00 my god. First off. Your dad is amazing and I love the interactions in the videos. Second. How quickly he knows what you meant by how they are getting away with racism by doing it in disguise. I see how you got your wisdom.
His mum was a tome of knowledge going by the snippets I've heard Asmongold quote her; perhaps a bit too far down the rabbit hole but she sounds like she knew a lot when it came to these cults and how the biggest ones are our governments.
If you think Covid wasn't exactly in the same vein as all of this you're unfortunately kidding yourself, they laugh in our faces and act in plain sight while ripping us of our humanity every step of the way
And it works too, the vaccination count is basically a sheep count within the human population. They said jump and people said how high without even taking a second to judge the height or if the landing would be any safer than standing their ground
Asmongold is the perfect spokesperson for his and younger generations. I hope he realises his power and uses it for good, I believe he has the mental fortitude to educate a lot of people and he's certainly headed in the right direction
@@LuchP91 see, this is the problem with buying into super complex conspiracy stuff, you start to believe the real crazy stuff like the anti vaccination or covid shit. The covid vaccines were based on proven technology that was decades old at that point. The *experimental* bit was using it as an antiviral vaccine rather than a cancer treatment. And masks have been used to stop pandemics since literally the bubonic plague. Spanish flu times has people wearing masks.
Now on the quarantine part, that's something thats been in law for a very long time, and I honestly don't know how I feel about it. Under quarantine laws, you can essentially be imprisoned completely against your will, on a national scale. You can be forcefully moved to different locations too. But that's been the law for decades before COVID, it's just now that people are actually understanding what such laws mean in reality. But then again, the state literally has the power and right to kill citizens (death penalty), so if they already have complete control over if you live or die, then enfirced quarantine is trivial compared to that.
@@LuchP91 you’re psychotic get help
@@LuchP91Youre one of the people Asmongold would laugh at and ban, its funny to think that you see him as a ally when you're his enemy.
@@Yottenburgen You're right to a certain degree. And yes I do see him as an ally because I agree with a lot of the things he says. He sees things a lot deeper than he did a few years ago imo.
And no, I have never been banned in his chat. It just makes me happy that he covers topics like this, since he has a major influence on people and brings these subjects to a younger audience where they probably wouldn't have a clue.
If they didn't release such an elaborate puzzle it would be relatively easy for normies to cast this off as coincidence.
When you know they are capable of making something so intricate, it lends even more credence to Phillion being correct.
actually true. didn't think of that one.
If by normies you mean crazed twitterinos that latch onto anything remotely offensive. Actual normies will not regard or make an effort to digest any of this.
@@DsiakMondala it’s something if you never knew about wouldn’t matter, like 9/10 of what you see on the news.
Wait, so, all people who are smart enough to create a complex puzzle are capable of hiding white supremacy in plain sight??
@@theashenfox pretty much. If they are trying to do so, then yes, they are capable.
Bro, it sounds like celebrities accepting these NFTs didn’t have any basic parenting like “don’t take things from strangers”, “if it’s too good, it’s probably too good to be true” and “the only free cheese is in the mousetrap.”
Asmond: “I have been on the internet for 20 years. I have seen it all.” Also looks at a internet clip: “Did that happen? Is that real?”
The game site puzzles shows that they are excellent with puzzles and hidden messages, which makes me think it's all on purpose, those guys are way too damn smart for all this to be coincidence.
I just wanna say that the "side" Zelda games were definitely amazing on their own. Song of Ages, Minnish Cap, Four Swords, Phantom Hourglass, A Link Between Worlds, etc. These were all amazing Zelda games and I absolutely remember Yuga. I bought the Link Between Worlds custom 3DS. I agree that probably isn't who they named 'Yuga Labs' after but had to stand up against the slander!!
Same here, just because they aren’t the best known doesn’t mean they aren’t great. Tbh I prefer most of them to BotW (didn’t feel like the Zelda I knew). I’ll also be honest him saying why Yuga they should have chosen Gabon really fustrated me because it’s like Yuga is a much better fit for NFT’s than Ganon.
Like yeah with everything else is unlikely but the way he presented that whole argument almost convinced me this entire video was a farce. I’m glad the I watched the rest of it but I just found it a really bad point. Yuga isn’t nerdy enough should have been ganon if you wanted to reference Zelda is not very convincing and sounds kinda well really stupid.
Yea he was talking out his ass in that part tbh
Yeah lol the sequel to link to the past. Like a major installment. I'm like this dude is losing me.
Mmmm, Minish & Four Swords 🤤😩👌
@@maximillion311 he was saying why use one of the least popular examples for zelda to show you’re a nerd when a majority of video game fans wont even realize what you did. Yea zelda fans know yuga, i did when they brought it up, but most video games fans have never fucking played a link between worlds lmao. Doesn’t matter anyway since they obviously just used zelda as a convenience anyway
Dont believe this guy about Hanna-Barbera antisemitic agenda? Remeber that episode of The Smurfs when indiscriminate Smurfs were smurfed by long range Smurftillery and
Gargamel claimed he was the actually victim and acting in self defense? How about the episode when it turned out that
Gargamel was printing "The Daily Smurf" out of his forest castle and Brainy Smurf found out, but he was forcibly silenced by Popa Smurf because
Gargamel threatened him with pictures of him smurflesting a young Smurfette. Sounds like more than a coincidence to me.
The strange thing is that Deng Xiaoping actually died in 1997. (The Nerd is shocked) The game... predicted the future. In fact, 1997 was the year the United Kingdom returned the rule of Hong Kong back to China. The movie, from '94, forecast this in the tagline: "99 years of British rule are about to come to an end... Hong Kong will never be the same." The movie stars Robert Patrick, the T-1000 from Terminator 2: Judgment Day, and Judgment Day takes place... in 1997. Part of Deng Xiaoping's ear is sort of cut off, like when Mike Tyson bit off a piece of Evander Holyfield's ear in 1997. The car, I'm willing to bet, is a Mercedes Benz, in which Princess Diana died in '97. And what was the year Coca-Cola launched Surge? '97. And it's no coincidence all my surge protectors were made in China. Rebooting the entire game after you die? Just like Symphony of the Night. '97. Jackie Chan, uh, Rumble in the Bronx, uh, the Bronx, New York City, the Big Apple...(gasps) The year Steve Jobs returned to Apple in '97. The unstoppable, unrelenting song is called I Love Beijing Tiananmen, also known as I Love Peking Tiananmen. Peking Duck is a famous duck dish from Beijing. (gasps) And Scrooge McDuck had his 50th Anniversary in '97! The game was such a titanic failure. (gasps) Titanic, the movie from '97! Why was this game's sole purpose to direct us to the number 97? Huh. Like the NGC-97 galaxy in the constellation of Andromeda, the princess Andromeda who was chained naked to a rock to be sacrificed to a monster. Like Princess Leia and Jabba in Return of the Jedi. (gasps) The Special Edition of Star Wars in '97! Oh, fuck, we're back again. Man, I was just trying to get a final answer here, but I went full circle, like the song that keeps looping. A game that keeps repeating. Maybe it's all about a cycle, an endless cycle. Old, shitty games that become new again! The past becomes the future, birth and death, on and on, it's the cycle of life! The game is the meaning of life! And the thing that keeps life going: reproduction...and food...which becomes shit.
I've never heard of Bored Ape Yacht Club, the first thing I noticed watching this Video is their Logo of an ape skull is the same as Waffen SS Totenkopf division
It's amazing, her answer that people 'aped in' is perfect gaslighting. There is so much new slang and her previous answers have talked about creating a new world in which she uses some made up words aswell.
It's to throw the interviewer off, the only responses are to argue with the person you are interviewing about slang that you have never heard of and might be real, or to say OK and move forward
Isn't the samething already happening under nato and European Union? New world order is nothing new in human history.
She looked totes guilty at that point; massive emotional / tonal shift. And she cleverly changed the question to be one she could refute. She’s in on it.
You don’t have to be a serial killer to write a script for a slasher movie. You don’t need to be a Nazi to do a massive MFA Flex and hide a Nazi Puzzle Room in plain sight … AND get rich off it - while commenting on influencers and crypto bros.
When you are a hammer, everything you see looks like a nail lol
"It's like the Lord Of The Rings of trolling" is possibly the best line that could have described this.
"How can so many Celebrities get hoodwinked by this?" Is it really that hard to believe; that vain and materialistic egotists would accept free merchandise under the guise of promotional purposes?
Celebrities aren't smart, they are lucky
I agree with what you said that there are a lot of coincidences pointing in the same direction, it's like that quote; "Once is a fluke, twice is coincidence, three times is a pattern."
Except Philion is manufacturing these coincidences in many cases. He's a schizo conspiracy theorist seeing bogeymen nazis under his bed lol
For the record: Dude said "welcome to America, welcome to the real world of Virginia"
Love seeing interaction between Asmon & Phillion after watching both of their content for years
I think ultimately the biggest give away is The Logo. They explained away the logo in an article, and included the "email" sent for the creation of it. However the quality of the screenshot is terrible, and 95% of things that he asked the designer to add or do, were not included whatsoever. It's not uncommon to commission multiple logo's from different designers and settle on the one you like the most. So realistically there would be many more emails than one. So if people don't want to go to deep into it, honestly read the email, apply some critical thinking and boom doesn't add up to the logo they ended up using that identically relates to the racist one.
My question is why considering none of them are White?
The only reasoning I can come up with is a self inflicted hate crime.
When I saw the logo it instantly made me know it's intentional. It's such an obvious copy of the SS that it would be impossible to claim it's not.
Well I think if they commissioned it to some random dude he must’ve specified that the design takes creative freedom by copying nazi logos and emblems.
I can’t believe Philion used to make videos about fake natty bodybuilders. Look how far he’s come
Yeah seeing how he evolved from that is amazing
Im glad he changed hes style because some of hes last video's about bodybuilding were just kinda hateful and cringy(f.e david gogins). Its very hard to reinvent yourself like this. Man has some real talent for this shit.
@@janisarbidans8931 I think attitudes regarding fitness content have changed a lot in the last few years too. When Phillion started doing those fake natty videos he was really one of the only people with any kind of platform calling that stuff out. There were a few others, but he was the biggest one I think. Nowadays people are far more aware of how toxic fake natty influencers are, and why. The popularity of channels like MPMD and Noel Deyzel are indicative of that I think.
They dont even know where hittlers bones are let alone the real day he died
Asmon, long time watcher. I love that you’ve expanded your content to not just have reactions but also interviews with the creator! It shows that you’re willing to grow, and as a fan, I’m here for it!
My theory is that it started as a trolling, but with how much money is in it now, it became a very real scam for them.
You clearly dont understand what the word scam means. Nobody is forcing you or messaging you to buy BAYC.
@@TehBananaBread Neither do you. You don't have to be forced into something for it be a scam. Street hustlers for example don't force you into playing their games, it's still is a scam/fraud.
@@marlo3898 If i put a selfmade tshirt on etsy for 5000 bucks and somebody buys them, did i scam them? No i didnt. Stupidity and fomo doesnt mean i deliberately went out of my way to scam people. Those street artists are deliberately setting up with the intent to scam people. BAYC is actually the opposite of a scam. It probably started as hate/satire/troll culture but after getting a lot of sales they started to take it serious and made a brand around it. Get lost.
@@marlo3898 Scams are based around the fact that you deliberately mislead people to gain a monetary gain (or something that has value). Every ape they sold for a mint price of 180 dollars is still worth 80k. How exactly did Yugalabs scam people by giving them 80k of value for 180 dollars? (not even including the 20k bonus air drop)
@@CypherDND dont take another man's bet. Its technically winnable but you are a sucker among millions. Vegas was built on "technicality". Why are you defending 3 card hustlers, bud?
This felt like two hours of the "Illuminati confirmed" meme.
I found out TMNT was actually Teenage Mutant Nazi Turtles, what with all the cowabunga they say. lol
Yeah, I’m a connoisseur of conspiracy vids, and this was utter dogshyte.
I was crying laughing at "Stoop Nogg"
1:35:30
Modern Nazis in Germany have become somewhat creative to show the support for their cause or to identify themselves, partwise because the use of the old symbols for such a cause is forbidden and to hide it in plain sight. So they use things like dates from Hitler's life instead.
But we know trolls, don't we? It's even easier to use such things to troll. What also points in this direction is that Hitler's death date was used. I suspect that most Nazis wouldn't use that date because they don't like to be reminded of it (besides, there are at least some who don't believe he died then and instead believe in some conspiracy theories).
Agreed. The founders initially framed this as trolling and profiting off the normies/sheep, when in reality they’re trolling and getting rich off the racists. The fact that none of the founders come from European countries further proves this. As does the reference to Hitler’s classmate - it’s the feeling of being in the presence of bigots and knowing you’re smarter than them
I mean the whole philosophy behind nazim is plain stupid, it's best used as trolling tool in a way
@n30n yea my bad man, arbeit Macht Frei right? I'm bit lazy, not well suited to study it
@@mokeysamo3528 As a german guy i can tell that the ideology behind the Nazis as the superior race goes wild and is rooted back long before Hitlers crazy way to gain control in the 30s. ^^
@@arnoldjungherz2804 it's common knowledge man, I was born and raised the country next door, don't sweat too hard about the nazis, it's like knowing the earth circles around the sun, won't make any damn difference in your life, just hf and be happy mate
His dad is so based and heartwarming
1:01:00 or something, when his dad called. That was so cute and sweet. I mean, yea, maybe it's because I've an awful relationship with my father and wouldn't have ever expected something similar to happen to me, but the fact that when his dad came back from shopping he got on his PC and went to watch his son's stream, is so great and lovely. I'm really happy to see this. That even tho some people think that their parents wouldn't support them if they have a career as a streamer, or something similar, that most people don't think of exactly as work, is brilliant. Thank you, mister for calling your son and being supportive, you probably don't know how much this could motivate someone to do what they want. And, yes, it depends on the person, and it could be the exception, but it doesn't matter, it happens and this is what makes me happy. No, it won't make my relationship with my father better, I won't call him or see him again, but I think and hope that someone who isn't on so bad terms with their father or family as a whole, would or at least know that they could, because you never know, especially if this is how you are able to pay your bills.
One love ❤️
Asmon’s dad is baller
@@orkinho1 Absolutely. He is the best.
Asmon is proof of the power of good parenting.
If I learned one thing on the internet years ago it was that most of the people I'm being told are bad.... aren't bad. And that I'm being told they're bad because bad people want me to think they are