ATTENTION Treasure Fans! New Japanese Indie Shoot Em' Up Grand Cross ReNOVATION Review

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  • Опубликовано: 2 фев 2025

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  • @ShmupJunkie
    @ShmupJunkie 3 года назад +28

    I just played this game for the first time the other day for an upcoming video too on new games for 2022, and also really enjoyed it. Like you I thought it was quite easy and after getting the hang of the controls over the first 2-3 stages, I pretty much ran it no death the rest of the way until the final stage or boss. On my first ever playthrough. So as cool as it is I agree it needs some harder mode options. It’s got the Treasure vibe for sure but nowhere near the complexity of RSG or the difficulty of Ikaruga. Which is a good thing. Like you said it’s great for entry level players and just needs some juicier modes for the more experienced.

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад +2

      Yeah playing 💯 risk guage does add some extra challenge, but the base difficulty needs to be higher with a new mode

    • @ianjacka469
      @ianjacka469 3 года назад +1

      My kinda game, lol.

  • @TheElectricUnderground
    @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад +15

    Just a quick point of clarification, the press kit for this game lists "Henteko Doujin" as the developer of this game, and this is the only game they list on the press release or that I could find on their social media. But it turns out that this is the publisher and the developer is actually Raynex, who has a more extensive history as a developer and previous projects.

    • @rxzero00
      @rxzero00 3 года назад +2

      Henteko Doujin also published Supercharged Robot Vulkaiser which is a pretty fun shoot em up that I can never beat.

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад +2

      @@rxzero00 well slap me silly, the press kit lists this as their only game ha. Whoever is in marketing is really not understanding what a press kit is ha

    • @rxzero00
      @rxzero00 3 года назад +2

      @@TheElectricUnderground You're probably right about marketing. Usually marketers are not really fans so they just generally market a product in what they think it should be sold on without going too much in detailed. You should try out Vulkaiser, it's kinda unique for a horizontal shoot em up and a bit hard even on Normal difficulty.

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад

      @@rxzero00 sounds cool!

    • @Jbrodack
      @Jbrodack 2 года назад

      @@rxzero00 they took over publishing games from Nyu Media who went out of business. They publish all the ASTRO PORT games how.

  • @michaelhoule2134
    @michaelhoule2134 3 года назад +7

    This reminds me of sister skains Alltyanx second weapons in a way. Big aimable beam weapon, melee weapon, weapon power tied to a level gauge... Seems kinda interesting I'll wait until a steam sale to pick it up.

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад +1

      Yeah I can see that!

    • @Renegaiden_
      @Renegaiden_ 3 года назад +2

      @@TheElectricUnderground speaking of Siter Skain, have you ever reviewed their Tale of Altynex games?

    • @jamesiewalters2360
      @jamesiewalters2360 2 года назад

      @@Renegaiden_ i'm still waiting on their next work....

    • @zampano8217
      @zampano8217 4 месяца назад

      Funnily enough you can unlock the ship from Kamui and it has the full set of mechanics from that game 🙂

  • @RuV9999
    @RuV9999 3 года назад +2

    8:40 i think Soukyugurentai/terra diver already done this with zoom in zoom out aspect

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад +1

      Yeah I meant that I think it should start becoming more standard for 16 9 shmups across the board

  • @verstraetenandre
    @verstraetenandre 2 года назад +2

    +1 for the "stop giving us pastel non threatening low poly cute pixar graphics"! Kids don't want that, kids want mOaR explosions, heads blown up, tons of blood! At least, well... when i was a kid, it was like that! Redneck rampage, mortal Kombat, doom... Cute, at the time, meant "for my sister"! :p

  • @LittleBigKid707b
    @LittleBigKid707b 3 года назад +2

    Ahhh man. You got me excited. Thought it was that Treasure video you talked about making a little while ago. I would love to see one from you that goes into some depth on the company and games. Hands down, one of the best, if not THE BEST companies ever for action game fans. Please make this happen someday. I know you will do it justice!

  • @hooksnfangs6006
    @hooksnfangs6006 3 года назад +4

    Big lasers? Check! SWORDS?! DOUBLE CHECK!! 😆
    Despite flaws that you pointed out and some FG/BG & bullet visual issues, it's a great unique SHMUP. After getting the hang of controlling the laser, it feels great to zip the lazer around destroying enemies and bullets. And sword ship is just... amazing lol.
    Not a SHMUP I'd sink crazy hours into, but one I'll return to when I want to experience its visual spectacle paired with its amazing OST.

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад +1

      yes a great assessment! can't go wrong with some big old lasers and swords ha

  • @PastaPerpetrator
    @PastaPerpetrator 3 года назад +2

    The boss at 11:11 is literally just one of the bosses from Recca and another I’ve seen more than once is a mecha eerily similar to Duoss

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад

      Yeah I heard it has been inspired by recca in some ways, I need to check that game out soon :-)

  • @anthonywhittica5687
    @anthonywhittica5687 3 года назад +2

    The r type 2 final snub lmao good one

  • @hendrihendri3939
    @hendrihendri3939 Год назад

    I love how Siter Skain actually supports this game
    With the Kamui update
    And apparently, the Alltynex Fighter has always been there from day 1 (Le-Sword fighter)
    *God i love seeing Kamui on HD texture*

  • @DrFrancisDashwood
    @DrFrancisDashwood 3 года назад +1

    Excellent review as always! As far as the name goes, from my understanding the reason its called ReNOVATION is because it is a renovation of an older version of the game that Raynex developed. I read this on a translated tweet from them so it might be a little misconstrued, but that was my reading of it.

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад +1

      Ha yeah I can see how it makes sense in context, it s just a little funny to say out loud :-) it s not a big deal I just like poking fun a bit at game titles

  • @krushalstg6147
    @krushalstg6147 3 года назад +2

    STGBuilder exports to Switch (and Linux & Mac?) I believe. Dezatopia was made in STGBuilder and released on those platforms.
    Official English support was added in recent betas, but still a lack of detailed documentation.

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад

      That s interesting! I've heard to make that happen though they had to import those games into game maker, do you know if that s true?

  • @then1533
    @then1533 3 года назад +3

    Great review.Its interesting to see devs grapple with 16:9 and I agree this one is pretty successful at it, however it is a move away from the smaller field of gameplay I enjoy so much. I wonder if it is the future, exploiting tech that wasn't around before or if it's just fashion that is dictating these modes to some extent.Too early to tell yet IMHO.Maybe there is an acclimatisation process that players need to undergo to appreciate the new parameters available .I gotta admit that initially I wasn't a massive fan of Battle tTaverses scale and size but it grew on me quickly.That game works so well though because it's horizontal I think..

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад +1

      Traverse also works well because the sprites are enlarged they, they bring back that up close and personal design of 4:3 :-)

  • @JoJaDaRu
    @JoJaDaRu Год назад

    This and Rolling Gunner are two modern favorites for me and while I’ve been watching you for a while now I have to stop and say thanks this time. The kind of games I love don’t get much press so I really appreciate what you’re doing and how it helps me navigate what to buy. Cheers.

  • @superroboted
    @superroboted 3 года назад +4

    Actually Thunder Force V did the whole mech thing too in later stages

  • @TheElectricUnderground
    @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад +1

    Posting a comment of MrJBRPG (RUclips keeps censoring it) "STG builder games have also been brought onto other platforms like Nintendo Switch with Dezatopia and Exa Arcadia with Infinos Exa.
    Exa Arcadia is intent on supporting the very niche game engines like Beats of Rage and Fighter Maker in addition to the major ones.
    exa.ac/en/about "

    • @JohnshiBRPG
      @JohnshiBRPG 3 года назад

      Thanks for posting that comment. With STG builder capable of pushing high resolution graphics, it makes one of those niche engines more appealing to make focused games.

  • @32LY
    @32LY 3 года назад +2

    For me this is the best shmup 2022 !!!!!
    Luv this shmup !!!

  • @lordbacon4972
    @lordbacon4972 3 года назад +4

    Great review! I want to like this game, but I'm having a hard time seeing things clearly. I don't know whether it's the style or the coloring (most likely a combination of both) but the game difficulty shouldn't be due to having a hard time seeing. In the scenes where there's a lot going on (explosions, enemy fire, your fire, background) it's hard to clearly see what's happening because all those effects seem to blur together. In this sense I prefer graphics that are 'cleaner/crisper', less blurry, and more distinguishable. I dunno how else to describe it, maybe it's a matter of refinement or polish? Anyhow, all the other features you mentioned sound great and if this game came out on console (Switch!) that would be awesome!

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад +1

      Yeah I can see how the effects might make it tricky to follow some of the bullet patterns and such, I think once you get a feel for how the bullets look and the shot patterns it does become easier. The first playthrough is a learning curve for that for sure

    • @lordbacon4972
      @lordbacon4972 3 года назад

      @@TheElectricUnderground That's true!

  • @n1rvash
    @n1rvash 3 года назад +1

    no idea if you have played it yet, but the extra ship is an alternate version of the kirisame blade ship featured in graze counter, i'm sure you will find it interesting if you haven't seen it yet

  • @tiger8559
    @tiger8559 3 года назад +1

    Curious to know what vertizontals Treasure made other than Radiant Silvergun and maybe Silpheed.

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад

      I think there is a section of it gunstar heroes on gba ha. They feature them through out their games from what I remember

  • @then1533
    @then1533 2 года назад +1

    Have u seen the free update which adds the kamui ship and bgm?1 credit only and cool as...

  • @RewdanSprites
    @RewdanSprites 3 года назад +1

    Whoa STG builder. Nice. Effects look awesome been meaning to pick this up for a while. This definitely has convinced me!

  • @soohz
    @soohz 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant video THANKS:)). I really hope the developer makes your suggested changes.

  • @notnoaintno5134
    @notnoaintno5134 3 года назад +1

    Damn it mark, i havent even 1ccd maniac mushi yet and youve got me buying more shmups

  • @FarAwayTimesGames
    @FarAwayTimesGames 3 года назад +2

    Ooooo this looks gorgeous, immediately went out and grabbed it after watching. Thanks for the review!

  • @Helghast73
    @Helghast73 2 года назад +1

    Would defiantly purchase if it was on Xlive and more indie shumps should hit all console digital stores but there’s hope as Steam Deck approaches 😁

  • @VillainViran
    @VillainViran 3 года назад +1

    Gotta say, I was sold when the video opened and I saw that laser slash wiggle

  • @heiner5945
    @heiner5945 3 года назад +2

    Really relate to that preference in 3d graphics (interesting comparison to nintendo). I'll even add that one of my least favorite decisions regarding 3d models is when all the objects glow in themselves, with a boom effect. Something like Sine More or Metroid Dread. I dont know why, it just looks silly to me for some reason.

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад +2

      Absolutely!!! It looks cheesy as hell and removes the atmosphere that s makes it feel too much like a game or cartoon

  • @titanforge4317
    @titanforge4317 3 года назад +1

    Do you control the laser like you do in zero gunner?

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад

      yes you can manually direct it from side to side, I think the same way that you do in zero gunner (it's been a while since I've played zero).

  • @ianjacka469
    @ianjacka469 3 года назад +1

    Wanna get off steam, but am skint af, and my usb 360 gamepad has just bust and my snes pad doesn't work on all steam games. And my xbox HDMI port need replacing SOON. But I've gotta kinda eat too. Looks like a neon ESCATOS, awesome. Great review dude.

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад

      Ha yeah I know the feeling!! Thanks so much no hurry to buy if you need to spend your money on life's necessities though :-)

    • @ianjacka469
      @ianjacka469 3 года назад

      @@TheElectricUnderground It's got 'partial controller support' that concerns me now I have pounds to spend.

    • @ianjacka469
      @ianjacka469 3 года назад

      I just got it really late tonight and took the risk. Not the cheapest but I like supporting the Indie scene. Can use my snes usb on it, gotta new X-box 360 usb controller coming off Amazon tomorrow. Not sure if you can can choose configuration yet as I just literally brought it. It recommends a X-box controller and my snes one has loose wires and needed replacing anyway. I'm a noob, but have improved a lot thanks to Black Belt master teacher Schump Junkie, but am still not so good. HARD mode...I wanna EASY mode, lol.

    • @ianjacka469
      @ianjacka469 3 года назад

      Partial controller good on snes pad and you can change configuration. It's quite easy for the likes of you and Schump Junkie, just cleared staage one in very sleep deprived state.

  • @andyauthor2007
    @andyauthor2007 3 года назад +2

    It sounds like the controls are as bad if not worse than Astebreed. If that's the case then I'm out because I feel like I need 3 hands to control the ship in Astebreed. I didn't spend a lot of time with the game, mainly because I couldn't learn it and I got frustrated with trying to figure out how to control the ship with only 2 hands. This game looks really good but it sounds like the controls are a nightmare. Thanks for the review though.

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад

      I think they are fine and well once you get the feel for them, much like silvergun there s a bit if a learning curve but I don t think they are flawed, with great power comes great responsibility and all that ha

  • @reagandow850
    @reagandow850 3 года назад +1

    Absolutely AWESOME!! Physical?

  • @dingo535
    @dingo535 2 года назад +1

    This looks sick, totally overlooked this one.

  • @RuV9999
    @RuV9999 3 года назад +1

    glad i bought that already. the game looks cool with slaps soundtrack but....the gameplay to me its like everything happened on the screen and i cannot read well the enemy pattern sadly and im using continue 3 times cause of this. im not even Treasure fan but this one really well done game by indie dev

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад

      Yeah it can take some adjustment, I recommend playing a few minutes in the tutorial mode, that s what I did

  • @jamesiewalters2360
    @jamesiewalters2360 3 года назад +1

    question; what's the lore of the story? and fyi, the guy's not new at all; he's made 2 previous game, lemureal nova and grand cross itself. both are part of the same series so's far as i can tell.

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад

      Oh yeah I updated that in the pinned comment, story wise I have noo idea ha

    • @jamesiewalters2360
      @jamesiewalters2360 3 года назад

      @@TheElectricUnderground dang; i'm curious as all hack.

  • @okuu_utsuho
    @okuu_utsuho 3 года назад +1

    The ship with sword is kinda cool.

  • @streetmagik3105
    @streetmagik3105 3 года назад +1

    Looks sweet! I'll definitely check it out.

  • @junker154
    @junker154 3 года назад +1

    I just waited for this video!

  • @jasonburt5404
    @jasonburt5404 3 года назад +1

    It looks way cool. I really like treasure games. Going to have to pick this one up.

  • @tonyc3282
    @tonyc3282 3 года назад +1

    How is your own Shmup progressing Mark?

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад +2

      Very well I ve been working on it alot the past few days, keep an eye out for the public stage 1 release

  • @ronniepatterson2827
    @ronniepatterson2827 3 года назад +2

    Heck yeah! Hopefully it gets ported to PS4 soon.

  • @PedroFerreira-sx2gd
    @PedroFerreira-sx2gd 2 года назад +1

    Played the game today.l. Great props for trying something new. Haven t seen a game só graphical chaotic (in a good way, as the art Direction is amazing) with exception of Jeff Minter games. The major Turn off for me was the Gameplay and dificulty.i Started to play without paying attention to the mechanics (One thing i always do in my first Gameplay), as part of the fun is tô Discover them, and i ONLY lost 1 crédit in the begginning because i was not full aware of the energy system. The gameplay for me was repetitive. It was cicle like 1- use the laser, 2 -Run away and rest 3 -repeat step 1 and 2. Step 2 Killerd the adrenaline and was boring.plus the game does not test dodging skills as in most of the cases is easier to destróy Enemy bullets with the lasers. I never felt like a superhuman in any moment. In the end for me the game is just c+ ( sorry) , and more because of the art style, músic and Gameplay mechanics being fresh, as the Gameplay was a major Turn off

  • @notnoaintno5134
    @notnoaintno5134 3 года назад +1

    Swords in shmups are always welcome

  • @stopbuyingstuff5522
    @stopbuyingstuff5522 3 года назад +1

    Have you heard of risk system? Looks interesting

  • @oneupdawg
    @oneupdawg 3 года назад +2

    A long time since I heard something new from Treasure! I sure hope this comes to PS4 and Switch, they are incredible devs.

    • @lounowell4171
      @lounowell4171 3 года назад +4

      This is NOT a new Treasure game, and I have no idea why Mark liked this comment without clarifying that? Really misleading.

  • @ClownXmachina
    @ClownXmachina 3 года назад +1

    10 minutes in and you haven't mentioned "score" I hope now, you see my point about score. It's important for perfectionists but the whole package of the game is more important. The experience is what matters.

  • @RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77
    @RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 3 года назад +1

    Just a fun bit of trivia, but the Japanese use the English word "reform" to mean (home) renovation.

  • @camarguess6456
    @camarguess6456 3 года назад +3

    It’s a very beautiful game, but it hurts my eyes lol

  • @IKKIsama14
    @IKKIsama14 2 года назад

    I know Andro Dunos because I'm old AF (47 next month). Also can we please have a port of Grand Cross Renovation on PS5?

  • @realmiltonbradley8365
    @realmiltonbradley8365 2 года назад

    Crisis Wing (name) reminds me of an hospital sim game 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I laughed for 3 minutes 😅😆😆😆

  • @karpopper
    @karpopper Год назад

    cave games often have the camera move side to side so theyre not as vertical as they seem.

  • @peace4myheart
    @peace4myheart 3 года назад +1

    I hope this will get a console release bc this game looks so bad ass and fun to play.

  • @gabor-toth
    @gabor-toth 3 года назад +2

    I'd like to see more games like this on Xbox.

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад

      Me too! My Xbox is so lazy and just lays around all day

    • @gabor-toth
      @gabor-toth 3 года назад +1

      @@TheElectricUnderground Mine is full of Japanese games. 😅 But I still want more, especially shoot 'em ups.

  • @ThunderForce222
    @ThunderForce222 3 года назад +1

    Ummm....So, it's basically Radiant Silvergun:Rainbow Edition.

  • @Lifesizemortal
    @Lifesizemortal Год назад

    Make a Sin & Punishment clone and I'll actually be impressed

  • @jamesiewalters2360
    @jamesiewalters2360 2 года назад +1

    and actually no; from what i can gather, this is a remake of a game the guy made YEARS ago, the difference in quality is staggering; hence RE-novation

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  2 года назад

      Yeah I updated this in the pinned comment, the press kit I was given was wrong ha. Wtf though who expects an inaccurate press kit.

    • @jamesiewalters2360
      @jamesiewalters2360 2 года назад

      @@TheElectricUnderground tis curious; but for the life of me i can't find the music anywhere, which sucks because... well, you clearly already know why.

  • @matteste
    @matteste 3 года назад +1

    Some aspects of this kinda reminds me of Alltynex Second.

  • @figamesstellarfury
    @figamesstellarfury 3 года назад +1

    Crisis Wing = Hospital Sim game 😆

  • @krissymarklewis1793
    @krissymarklewis1793 3 года назад +1

    this looks great

  • @zhukov2116
    @zhukov2116 3 года назад +1

    Awesome review; very in depth. It definitely looks like something I would enjoy, so thanks for bringing it to my attention. It's always so exciting to see new indie shmups come out of nowhere. I also love your description of the 'menacing' style of graphics like in Saturn or PS1 games compared to Nintendo, and I definitely prefer that style too. As far as the sound goes, well I guess it's staying in the early Guilty gear vibe of blowing your eardrums.
    ruclips.net/video/tvR1oFHTz5M/видео.html

    • @TheElectricUnderground
      @TheElectricUnderground  3 года назад

      Ha yes that s why I don t like most remasters, they just sand the edges of the models and make them drab and boring

  • @EMMA-GAMES
    @EMMA-GAMES 3 года назад +1

    you ruined crisis wing for me

  • @dragongamer2670
    @dragongamer2670 8 месяцев назад

    The Ending Turned me off for this game though.. doesn't everyone Die?