Space-Age Tactical Textiles: Ferro Concepts Bison Belt! [Review]
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2021
- While the concept of the gun belt has been around almost as long as there have been gun slingers, the design has largely remained unchanged during modern times. Large, often cumbersome subloads generally required heavy duty materials and stitching to maintain rigidity - but recent advancements in textile science has made the bulky battle belt a thing of the past!
Join John as we give you the ins and outs of one of our new favorite pieces of kit around the office, the Ferro Concepts Bison Belt, or check the link below for even more info!
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*nods firmly*
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The light behind you highlights your beard. Might I suggest a beard balm or something. 👍
shut up hipster
@@CraftySasquatch stay mad, nerd 😘
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Tips head
Looks over shades
GROOVY!!! 😎
I was using a Vtac wide padded over/under for awhile. It worked but it was bulky. Switched to the bison belt in early spring. Never going back to big padded belt again
5:29 I remedied the holster belt mount looseness on my bison belt by placing zip ties on the lower part of the slots, where the belt feeds through, which eliminated the wiggle room and gives me a more solid draw.
Legend, ty so much
Get the true north concepts rig
You're a real one
Absolutely compare the belts i would love some more insight on the gbrs vs ferro vs axl topic
Thanks you for letting me know "Fix straps" exist now I can secure my 2Qt pouches to my ruck without having half a dozen zip ties looking like cat whiskers
Bison Belt + BlueAlpha inner belt = Best combo !
Watched several videos on belts using the same type of length adjustment on the left-side buckle. Over and over again, people just do some crazy loose bundles out of that extra webbing. But. First, you can safely cut a lot of it out if you aren't planning on gaining much more waist circumference. Second, you can use wide OneWrap hook&loop strap to wind that loose end around it starting from the actual end, then wrap the OneWrap around the belt. This way, nothing is going to dangle or catch on anything.
Have you got a link to where you can get those retention straps you mention in the video? I.e. to stop your pouches from shifting
Great review. I need those clips for my mag holders.
What are the names of those clips and where can they be purchased if I may ask?
Can’t “hey brother” you in those capris. You might get a “Heeeey Girl!” though. 🤣
Did the dishes with my full kit Bison belt on. Galactic LARP achieved. The belt functioned perfectly, got a little soap on my holster.
Not alone
Please do an axl vs bison belt setup head to head. I think the gbrs belt is to heavy to include in that group but I know the bfg chlk belt Is light as well
3:38 mark... A dude with Capri's...yeah dawg, you out.... (the closet)
Hey! Don't knock the tactical suspenders!
Severely underrated
5:06 Hey man what type of Velcro straps are those on your med pouch? I have a similar one on my duty belt but it likes to slide around on me a lot, especially getting in and out of the car.
enjoyed the video Pew Pew Tactical
Good shooting, PPT!
Have you tried out the RDR Gear belt? That's the one I'm looking at getting, but this Ferro one is a contender also.
Gear stuff is always cool
I finally realized I'm your correct demographic when I looked at the safariland holster's brown plastic reinforcement tab and saw 'Sid's' face from Ice age. I actually thought you had done that on purpose at first...
Why didn't you run the straps of the mag pouches through the molle? As too not block the hook on the inside of belt?
Look at the GBRS with the true north holster adapter best setup on the market 👌
I'm so confused by the safariland models. How can I get a holster like yours bro? Your's doesnt have a massive leg pad behind it. Is it modified?
You need to review defense mechanisms mech belt, best belt ive ever used even over the bison. My new go-to duty belt
HOLY SHIT HOW I'VE MISSED YOU GUYS
Ranger bands also are a great option to secure the pouches per their demonstration install video on ferro concepts RUclips channel
I can attest to the quality of the Bison belt. I absolutely love my Bison belt. Would love to try the GBRS belt down the line as it looks similar.
I currently have both they are very similar with just small differences however I personally prefer the GBRS belt slightly over the Bison can’t go wrong with either
Oh they’re similar alright…GBRS used the bison belt…until they parted ways and “created” a belt of their own. They used exactly the same material & to avoid a lawsuit they cut Tegris into squares vs circles…and flipped the Velcro around for “tactical” reasons…(but to realistically avoid getting sued)…then Slade quit GBRS…wait for it…because one of HIS ideas was also “borrowed” by one of the GBRS guys…just like Ferro experienced. Lame business practices. Watch for gbrs to produce a plate carrier soon…that will look amazingly similar to another one currently on the market.
@@dad2022 yup I’m glad that you said this, GBRS is basically like the dollar tree of the tactical world, but with Gucci prices.
Great review, man. I'm torn between this, the GBRS Assaulter and the AXL Eclipse. The assaulter is looking pretty good given the price hike of this and the "covering" strap thing it uses.
The GBRS is a remade Ferro they used to work together split and GBRS made square cuts and reversed the hook and loop for copyright stuff, but the assaulter does have a true 2 in size which is nice plus the sizing system is rock solid whereas the ferro can slip a little which is pretty easy to deal with tbh its up to you but the gbrs revered hook and look can mess up ur clothing. I have no clue how well the Axl performs though.
ruclips.net/user/shortssR7oiDZrFHw?feature=share check the comments of this video to find info on both
I can assure you though you won’t be disappointed by either
Let’s see a GBRS belt review!!
Surprised your not running the true north concepts modular holster adapter...it'd fix your movement problem you were talking about and has a smaller foot print also gives you some canter (10 degrees eitherw way)
Im not having issues deciding what i want im having issues finding the holster i want for my gun. Seems to be no support for the Canik Mete SFT.. i want a full sized kydec holster that has some kind of locking mechanism.. i may just trade it in for a G19.. even my lil local gun shops have stuff in stock for the G19.
Anyone have a link to those malice replacement straps? Or the brand / product name?
Yeah. I'm looking for those too
I googled what the fix straps and nothing came up
BAM
www.wtfidea.com/whiskey-two-four-wtfix-attachment-system-straps/
Best intro ever.
Axl eclipse belt, true north concepts holster adaptor, one wrap....this is the way instead of waiting for those drops from ferro.
I've been using mine for a few months now in private security (10-14hr shifts wearing it), I love it, but it has some issues that bug me. Like the inner belt is a smaller width, so you have the excess hook side destroying/fraying your pants. Also the inner belt's connection point is pretty small and takes some finesse to get the small hook into the small loop. And lastly the Velcro tab that keeps the excess tail length down just shreds it. I hate loose and free hook end Velcro rubbing on anything, it's going to fray it and eventually weaken the hooks. I'm still happy with the belt overall, it's amazingly thin and rigid.
Those are really great points maybe you should create a product that covers the excess hooks and sell it.
I hate bare velcro as well. Buy some doublesided velcro and just put it over the remainder.
It's fine to cut the most of the excess off. And it's possible to wind it around the double-sided Velcro, then wrap that Velcro around the belt.
I used a lighter to melt the hook at the top and bottom to reduce fraying my shirt and pants. I'm happy with the results.
Where can you find the fix straps
I play airsoft would this belt, be a bit over kill for that? I feel if it can hold up to real steel stuff, why not my airsoft stuff.
Will you post a link to the fix straps please. I can’t seem to find them on the interwebs.
Please
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Any lead where to get those Fix Straps...?
I'd love to see a side by side of the Ferro and GBRS belts. I own both and am hard pressed to find faults in either system that would put one above the other. GBRS seems like a sturdier mounting solution, but is it necessary for non-duty use? Also go with the True North MHA for the blaster. A touch heavier, but way better connection.
Also the EDC belt/cover you get with the GBRS. Pain in the ass gimmick or useful alteration to the 2 belt system?
Question: how was ordering your belt size with Ferro and GBRS? For some reason the picture for ordering ON FERROs website is so small I can’t read it, nor enlarge the photo with my phone. Did you order based on your pant size? Or go up a size? Was it the same when ordering through GBRS? thanks in advance.
@@SONofLIBERTY I wear a 34-36 waist pants and got a Medium in Ferro because I was right on the line. I think you could have up to a 36-38 waist and still have enough slack for a Medium. The GBRS I got a Small/Medium and the logo patch is almost in the way of my True North MHA (so not a lot of room to mount thing forward of your holster unless it is velcro based mounting), BUT I would be afraid to go up to the Large/Xtra Large.
@@SONofLIBERTY So I wear a 34-36 waist pants and got a Medium Ferro. There is enough extra that I think you could be a 36-38 waist and make it work. For the GBRS I got a Small/Medium and the logo panel on my V1 is right at my True North MHA. That means no mounting of things in front of my holster unless it is velcro based attachment method. The V2 looks like they might have fixed that with the shorter logo area. The GBRS has way less wiggle room than the Ferro, and for the price I would go with the Ferro. The inner belt thing with the GBRS is more of a pain in the ass than it is revolutionary. Hope that helps.
@@theycallmesteven29 Hell yeah that helps. Thank you so much. Thank you for taking the time to reply because this really did help me a lot. I’ve been considering buying the Ferro belt to review on my channel
Outdoor research kicks ass
Can you recommend a better rigid inner belt for support?
Depends how much u wanna spend I got a couple ideas but Amazon is ur friend in this case
Yes its cool. I`ll keep wearing my Liberty Overalls.
Shorty at 3:42 looking like a snack
Hell yeah!!! How long have you run this setup? That bad boy looks like it was you dads after 20 years of “working” and then you got it haha was does it look so worn?? Self explanatory 🤷♂️ Lol I’m still intrigued!!! I’m running SOE’s battle belt.
What is the shirt at 1:35?
I tried to love it, I really did but I still switched back to my old chlk
On the topic of leg day, all those Meal Team Six memes have shamed me into eating better and doing push ups & sit ups. I tell you what guys, it's helping at the range.
Y'all should peep the new GBRS Group x LBT belt. #pewpewshorts
Keep rocking those skinny jeans bro. You do you. 😉
GBRS please!!
Where can I find the molle strap replacements you mentioned?
It's WTFix (Whiskey Two Four WTFix Attachment System Straps)
@@RabinovichDimitri Thanks
What are those clips you upgraded with?
Whiskey Two Four WTFix Attachment System Straps
www.wtfidea.com/whiskey-two-four-wtfix-attachment-system-straps/
Best tactical holster video when?
3:40 More like tactical capris. Holy sh!t @ how short those are. Like, they aren't short enough to be considered shorts yet, but are nowhere near normal pants length.
It's like you took regular pants and left them in the dryer on high for 1 cycle too long. Or you borrowed your little brother's (or sister's) pants. Not judging, just an observation. Lol.
That escalated quickly
Buffalo britches is most tamtical
Bro! Those pants make me feel funny in my pants!
Went to Velcro one wrap recently and my god it's so much better way easier to install.. 10 minutes vs. an hour or longer ... hate malice clips.. but gonna try these new straps your talking about ..
I personally have the trex arms. I want something smaller. Like what your showing. But I’ve never ran a Velcro belt underneath. So I’m sure it will be even better. Im a try to snag the ronin taskforce and the gbrs group belt that looks a lot what your showing. I want a slimmer and not as bulky design. No complaints on the trex tho, it does what it needs too :)
Dude. Those are tactical yoga pants.👀🤣
Can we get a link for the stamps used to secure the mag carriers
Take the accents down 1/2 stop. Drop your WB to warm is up a tad.
Love the content!
Trex belt?
4:54 Your Esstac what? Lol.
They're pronounced "key-wee", like "kiwi" the fruit. They just spell it with a "y" because the "ky" is representative of the "ky" in "kydex", the rigid insert material that holds your mags in place.
Oh man fuck how embarrassing oh fuuuuuuuuck brother we're sorry gosh UH OH darn 😥😥😥😥
@@pewpewtactical lol!
@@pewpewtactical 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What’s the ifak my man?
Overall good video. I’m glad no toyota’s were featured.
Going Tactical clamming after filming....
Am i weird for liking the tactical skinny pants😂😂
More tactical yoga pants please.
I followed Ferro's sizing guide. Measured 45.5" so I ordered the XL... Fuckers 1-1.5 too big completely snugged. Now I'm big sad, and big mad.
I ordered two , whichever one fit I’ll keep and then sell the other
awesome reviews brother, but Jesus....some pesty rig in that video 😂😉
I don’t know about running pistol mags on the belt. If you have a rifle, that’s your primary, and reloads will always be faster from the belt. So I prefer two rifle mags there. Your pistol is only a stop-gap for jams, so ideally you never use it. If you do use it, you’re going right back to your rifle, and speed reloads aren’t as key. If they are, you’ve already experienced two pretty major issues in a row.
For me personally, it's a good way to maximize the amount of things I can do with one platform as I primarily am using the belt for work (ie PPT videos). It's nice to have the option to run rifle, pistol, or PCC stick mags there without changing stuff around, if that makes sense 🤙
@@pewpewtactical makes perfect sense shooting as much (and as varied) as you do- I only wish I could do the same haha
So are you saying that nobody should run pistol mags on their belts and only stick to rif? I have the same theory as you… what if the rif breaks tho? Is that even possible is there such a thing as a malfunction that can’t be cleared? Should I be running pis mags on my plate carrier instead, at least one? And why two rif mags on the belt and not just one? I’m thinking one mag on the belt, two on the plate carrier, one in the back pocket (apex pants) and one in the stick. 😳 that way you have the weight spread out and you have quick access in an emergency to the one on your belt, but don’t need 2 on belt.
@@MobileAura pros that know more than me still run pistols mags on their belt, but I think my comment above is worth considering. There are tough jams like double feeds or cases that didn’t extract and get turned the opposite way, but in a quality rifle that is well maintained with quality ammo these are rare. Again, true pros may still argue with me, but if you picked good gear, your rifle is always the more capable option, so I want to prioritize its use and move extra pistol mags to my plate carrier or more awkward positions than that prime 3’oclock belt real estate ;)
@@ParrotTactical so if I’m using the most expensive top-of-the-line rounds (Barnes 110) in my brand new psa 300, with everything totl. Will I have any issues that can easily be cleared within the first 500 rounds coming out of it? In my case should I be worried? What are the chances of a barrel failing with only 500 rounds going through it? OK so I will just put this angled kywi mag on my pc then? I just want to know that everything will work if I need it to I’m kind of new to this stuff, your channel is one of a kind. 😳
Yeah I hate when my kaiyoweees move around too
Am i the only one who doesn’t like the ferro style holes they put on everything
They make sense from the standpoint of making lightening cuts that don't ruin the integrity of Tegris, but we also understand if early-internet poisoning instilled some lingering trypaphobia in you as it has us 😂
sweet leggings bro
Tactical Yoga pants ! 😯
I'll give the skinny jeans a pass...but those capris though? 🤔
I really like the idea but it seems like you're paying $100 for the actual belt and another $100 for the Ferro name
Those tactical skinny jeans are, at the very least, bi-curious.
Those pants are. Jesus man can’t believe you wear those in public
Ain't no shame in the game, BROTHER
@@pewpewtactical if you got the package.... flaunt it !
1:10 I didn't click on this video to get attacked by some hipster in capri pants and a dad hat stolen from an LA folk punk.
Wow EXCUSE you
The hat is from a patchouli-scented dark ambient Neofolk project THANKS 👏
this guy is a non experienced shill for sponsers .
I saw this exact same belt and set up on AliExpress…