In the story of Fire Force, unlike the sun the moon was modeled after Beni’s crimson moon attack against his master’s doppelganger thanks to its own image from mankind’s imagination.
Whenever Stan Lee was asked "who is stronger than who" questions, his answer was always something like "Simple, if the writer is a big Hulk fan, then Hulk will be stronger, if the writer is a big Thor fan, then Thor will be stronger". I think the same principle applies here.
I mean, it also just depends on the overall limits and average depiction of said character. It's easier to tell with aore self contained story, comics have to many different versions so it's impossible in that sense to scale who beats who. As for an actual fight between 2 characters, the best writers know how to keep the fight in character, so it'd not just be able abilities but, also the mentality of each character, skills, etc.
@@matthewjutzen424 well, whether it's just or not, the fact is they don't always do that, but it's canon none the less, take Disney's star wars for example.
@@Avestani96 except for chi chi ass. He eat that like squidward first bite of a krabby patty. Mans needs to tongue punch the hell out her fart box. "Yaassss dadday goku, go slayy em hard 💅"-gohan Theres more than 1 reason why goku sticks to fighting. It's all he knows. Plus hed sent chi chis guts flying out her mouth with 1 pump like its 2017 fortnite. *Internal cringe intensifies*
I love how Captain Obi now gets to live in a world where he’s one of the strongest powered beings, after proving just how much he could do with his own will and strength.
The powercliffing in this series is insane and I’m surprised they did it so well. Like, the series starts from a Town-Mountain level of power-scaling then jumped to multiversal in just a few chapters.
@@NextKingzfr Well I didn't meant instantly, I meant that the series went from city to mountain for quite a while until Sho appeared and the series jumped straight into universal then after tens of chapters it went straight to multiversal or arguably low outerversal. I didn't meant the story went from chapter one being town level then in chapter two it goes to multiversal.
This also plays nicely into one of the main concepts of Soul Eater being that madness was once a highly prevalent force that influenced the world and its characters which checks out with the way in which Shinra created everything.
He is only planetary. He just recreated earthen life in a similar fashion to what Hagoromo can do. Yes he can probably manipulate time and does move faster than light, but even then he’s not actually that op.
@@TheAlphatitanthis is kinda crazy to say tbh knowing shinra is most likely wayyyyy above planetary as Arthur was destroying stars in his fight with dragon and shinra’s final form is prolly stronger
@@TheAlphatitan that's makes no sense 😅 he's basically a reality warper and has the power to create literal gods he's multiversal at least you could even scale him higher
I love both but man I definitely save Fire Force. The meta-craziness is just too awesome, the concept of adolla and doppelgangers is super interesting.
So because shinra created a universe and altered reality hes the strongest? zeno literally destroyed 6 universes at once like it was nothing came to trunks universe and changed deleted it like ot was a pressof a button😂😂😂😂 im 100% sure he can use one of these universes to alter it and make it how he wants if he wanted to he was sitting with his other self playing a game with planets bro destroying them like they were toys and hes a child
Bro how do you explain all of this shit so well. The varying intricacies and physics concerning shinra and his brothers ability is so interesting😂 insane man
Nice vid man! Just so you know Shinrabanshoman uses the power of the adola burst not to destroy but to create anything he wants it's like the Amaterasu but an infinite times better they even said in the manga that the adola burst is the flame of creation
Homeboy claims Soul Eater is one of his favorite manga/anime, but he hasn’t talk about it yet. The Soul Eater manga has so much things to talk about it’s nuts
Shinra Banshoman is what is known in fiction an Overdeity or Overgod. An Overgod is an entity capable of creating other gods and typically how the universe it's self came into being though some exceptions apply. Overgods infinitely powerful and exceptional rare entities other examples include Ao from Dungeons and Dragons Iru Iluvitar from LOTR Khaos from Greek Mythology (yes that is how their name is spelt)
Lets also not forget to mention Adolla. Adolla holds all concepts inside it which includes EVERYTHING it even mentions dimensionality. Which easily scales Adolla to High Outerversal and the Evangalist is the physical manifestation of said Adolla. And his feat of slaming the Despair (turned hope) to recreate over and over and over in a matter of a second is quite possibly the most impressive speed feat ever. Multiversal is an extreme lowball. Another good video breaking down the scale is Kosu Sama's video on the topic and hes done multiple breakdowns on why the "shinra debunks" have zero valid points.
@@SDIOHWAKLsit does he so fast that he went back 250 years back in time lol he create a universe that is soul eater and he can create god by thinking about it, the statement is out there
Based on a few things said in this video, I can tell that the research was influenced by my video (which doesn’t upset me) but I just gotta say man great job! Great quality and execution, I probably would’ve elaborated on more of what it means to be “Outerversal” in comparison to scaling from other series just to highlight how much more powerful he is. All in all though, great video! Also, he’s not the only Outerversal character in the series. Just a heads up if that peaks your interest! lol
@@Weluv_jae Chapter 216. Shinra goes into an adolla llink with inca. They move fast enough to go back in time to the first great cataclysm. The humans look like the humans from our world. In shinra's words "Those creatures look like humans"
+1 Sub for doing this. Can't believe I forgot Shinra kicked the moon back to irbit against Earth+That Guys Gravity Ability...which makes the feat even more insane. Also if I were to choose with a gun to my head. It's Fire Force. The concept of Pi, insects, doppelganger, adola, the cataclysm and life & death is just so well executed, a really perfect plot and story. Not to forget this man Atsushi is the first Mangaka I've seen so far who made fan service into a plot device. Really crazy writing. Definitely in my Top 10 AniManga of all time. It's funny when you think about the power level in Fire Force and realize that 2 of Benimaru's fingers killed a planetary being. Imagine what his full hand and full power can do 🔥💀
Or simply everybody in fire force is just…. Strong. I wouldn’t say it’s top 10 of all time simply because of the interesting concept of Adola. If adola didn’t exist shinra’s powers wouldn’t exist neither would he because of who his mother was. But regardless it’s not top 10 because the main character becomes a god. Just like liu kang from mortal kombat who became a god and restarted the timeline “Mortal Kombat 1 coming out September 19th, 2023) it’s interesting yes but it’s not that crazy bro
@@thermophile1695 I don’t think you should have been surprised - it was a very mild take. Most people in the world have only a high school understanding of pretty much everything (subject-wise) in the world. It’s not surprising.
@@LuxuFoo I actually had a long conversation about the topic of absolute zero with my uncle who has a PhD in physics. Basically, what we call 'absolute zero' isn't a particle completely stopping its movement, it's all unnecessary movement stopping. Quantum events still occur, as well as electron orbits, and some other things. Objects also maintain their momentum, so the earth would continue to orbit around the sun, a thrown ball would continue to fly, and so on. If you somehow brought the entire universe to absolute zero at once, time wouldn't stop at all. In fact, the result would be pretty much exactly what you think would happen if you froze everything. Everyone would explode from the water in their body instantly freezing, the atmosphere would turn into a liquid, laying on top of the ocean, and the sun would start to collapse into a neutron star as it loses the heat to maintain fusion and oppose gravity. Though that brings up another question: What would happen if you remove the 'unnecessary' part, and got rid of ALL particle motion? The short answer is we don't know, but considering that all particles are essentially vibrations in the fabric of spacetime (assuming our current understanding of string theory is correct, of course), doing that might just.... Stop all matter from existing, which is fun.
Impressive video, meticulously crafted with a title that subtly hints at the art of angling. It's intriguing to contemplate the notion that Saitama's unparalleled prowess could effortlessly secure victory with a singular, well-executed punch.
Love this video, saying Shinra is Him is a crazy understatement Could you do a video accurately scaling Naruto, you know so much about him I'd imagine your scaling would be the most accurate
@@myuchiha254 he’s not his scaling for Saitama was completely wrong, if u think his scaling is accurate than there’s nothing wrong with tht like I said he makes very good videos I watch em everyday
Wdym he definitely, remember when whis reverted time and he said he can only do it once, shinra stated that he did it so many time that he lost count lol, I believe grant priest can do it that many time, shinra created a universe his a ruler of death so he can destroy and create planets and universe he create a universe only Zeno can do that his way stronger then goku and the things is out there
@@lupus1192 doesn't change the fact that no attack will make a effect on it as he will convert the attack in something else and he can litteraly stop time
False 🤣☠️ he not even faster than goku. Goku definitely beating him, just because he has certain abilities that sound amazing has nothing to do with strength 🤣 it’s just an ability. Goku Vegeta & all z fighters base form already can move at the speed of light 🤣 in the saiyan saga. And they were considered weak as hell back then. You not know how powerful they are now☠️ Dbz is the goat for a reason. Nobody stronger than goku & Vegeta nor broly & Gohan. Just because some anime’s look cooler abilities are dope doesn’t make anybody stronger. Dbz literally passed this level of strength long time ago
man, I'm Brazilian, I watched the whole video and for me, who already had an ultra powerful vision of shinra, I have an even bigger vision, it opened my mind a lot and I really liked the content, very detailed and informed
@@barasantoso1846 Reinhard should be Outerversal too
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I love Fire Force not because of Fire Force, but because of the Ending. Oh my god it makes grinding through 300 chapters - or so, finished ages ago - sooo much WORTH IT!!!
It's so funny to me that this series was literally people fighting fire with fire and by the end of the first season the main character figured out time travel by kicking. It's such a crazy series I love FF
There isn't a bad choice when choosing between Soul Eater and Fire Force. I just wish the anime stayed on track with the manga in Soul Eater. Also Captain Obi is the GOAT
soul eater is one of my all time favorite anime’s people always complain about the animation for some reason but the characters and story as a whole i loved i can always go back and watch soul eater and not get bored wish there was more maybe after fire force we can get some more and look into what happened after shinra makes that universe
At the end of the day, it really all boils down to the imagination of the creators / writers, ie: One random invincible protagonist with all the powers of the Gods with unlimited capabilities coming right up please~
He isn’t the strongest since there’s other Manga I’d put above fire force scaling wise like Medaka box but I’d put it in top 10 because of the whole Archetype manipulation
I love the concept of literally creating an another anime, and connecting them so well. Seems that the mangaka had all prepared from the very beginning, but I dont understand how fire force went from a fireman anime to a multiversal deity capable of creating universes.
@Stimi Hendrix no, there are many multiversal (4D and above) and outerversal (characters that exist outside all-time space & dimensionality) characters that outscale him. Exp. Bobobobo, endgame Toriko & NeoAcia, Saint Seiya, Sailor Moon etc etc. I could do this all day.
@@doGInVain if we are including parody anime and old shows, then obviously no. but if we are talking about the current top shounen protagonist, there aren’t really that many.
the thing with sho and his ability is that once his ability is overcome by shinra, sho would be powerless, but in the anime we see them fighting at a speed a normal human cant comprehend. which shouldn't be possible because sho only seems to be moving super quick while he is actually just stopping time and moving at normal speed. its one of the biggest plot holes in fire force.
Thats a good point. But, if you had to try to give a reason, I guess you could argue that, yes, Shinra overcame his ability, but maybe he didn't TOTALY negate it. In other words, he was still affected. So maybe you could argue that Sho WAS moving normally and Shinra was actually still slowed. But since we see from Shinra's pov, it looks like Sho is moving really fast, because thats what it looks like to Shinra. Im not trying to say its not a plot hole. Im just saying that, if I had to put logic to it, thats the best way I could. It doesn't really work, ik, but its the best i could do.
Shinra is just ridiculous. The manga been out for a long time now, ive just finished it, and ive never seen anything like it. Ive seen OP MCs like obviously Goku, Rimuru, Saitama, Anos etc but shinra is just on a whole other level
Basically a mother, and her 2 son’s united, and they produced a divine child that was so upset by how they were made that they made sure that nobody could do it again. After that he asexually reproduced.
@@Cartaphilus704 Battle wiki has her true form at 1A, which is below boundless ofc. The Creator in Umineko is tier 0 however, so that's equal to LN Dio. But yeah, at the end of the day there are characters who scale so much higher than Shinra. Vs Battle does have Heaven Ascension Dio at 2C maximum, so not sure where boundless is coming from, then again I'm anime only for JoJo.
i love your content but Shinra is most definitely not the strongest in anime. Here are some that would probably beat him. Rimuru Tempest.Gilgamesh.Raquel Alucard .Caster(fate). Antispiral. Gurren Lagann. Kinzo Ushiromiya. Featherine. Akuto Sai.
BRO SHINRA IS LITTERALLY GOD OF GODS BRO HES SO BROKE EVEN IF LELUCH CONTROLS HIM AND END UP KILLING HIMSELF HE CAN JUST GET BACK UP LIKE GEAR 5TH LUFFY
This doesn't really have anything to with this video specifically but one of if not my favorite feat of strength from Fire Force is when Beni fight's his doppelganger. Since Beni is considered the strongest fire fighter (by the majority of the world), Beni's doppelganger is a manifestation of all of humanity's collective idea of what the strongest fire fighter in the world is. But Beni is actually SO STRONG that he easily defeats his doppelganger, meaning that all of humanity is incapable of even fathoming how strong Beni actually is.
Just wanna say that the Fate characters are unexpectedly powerful. there are 9th dimensional beings in the fate verse and Artoria herself is like a 6th dimensional being by herself or something like that.
There’s 100s of people stronger than shinra. The story is just pulled together by the concept of adola which shinra gets his powers from in the first place. Interesting story of how someone gets way stronger. But not the best in the world or anything,
Anti-spiral is hyperversal Anos is hyperversal Featherine is outerversal What's your point that Saber is 6th dimensional and fate is full of 9th dimensional beings? If it's because you're giving an example of a character that can beat shinra there are other characters you can turn to
@@CozmikPerm218 Probably because the pure existance of the nasuverse makes the video completly wrong since there are many much stronger characters in the nasuverse due to cosmology. Obviously there are other verses that would neg diff the shit out of shinra
@@matthewjutzen424 Yeah, I agree. Zeno winning is a maybe. And I'm kind of a DB fanboy, but not at the same time. I'm a fanboy, but I don't deny facts (like the DBtards do.) Although Xeno Krillin will 1 shot. Because he's even 1 shotting Zeno from the main timeline.
There are couple of points i would take in to consideration > the stars that where destroyed by Arthur and dragon during their fight was just made of rocks and is no where as large a star they are even smaler than the moon . > Arthur with his strogest attack severed earth in two which is less than a planetary feat but he should easily be planetary because he can create an attack that large . > shinra's infinite speed and time based powers are based on the fact that the fire force verse is limited by the speed of light even the evangelist couldn't produce an attack faster but in other verses going faster than light is a mid level feat that doesn't really help on time travel. > shinra kicking the moon into orbit was a considerably smaller moon with its alteration due to it being shaped by adola so i don't think it scales to that much . > shinrabansho man depends on adola . He is powered by the hopes because adola is superimposed on the real earth . All his reality warping is linked to adola and is possibe because of adola . > shinra didn't create death he gave death a form . Death always existed he just made it less intimidating. > shinra took the net whole of both earth and adola and made it into a new world with new rules we don't know of he affected the whole universe since we know that the sun was also born of a great cataclysm so there is a chance that the reach of adola is limited
Wait a sec- Forgive me if I’m wrong, but Shinra in Banshomen form didn’t have hysterical strength active… does that mean we only saw a fraction of Banshomens power when at 30%?!
Akuto Sai, Anti-Spiral ,Sinbad, Misogi Kumagawa ,Ajimu Najimi , and so on and so forth there are so many characters that overpowered him that it's not even funny so before proclaiming that he is the strongest in all anime you should probably watch the older anime because there are lots of them they can easily destroy him with but a thought.
As we know of right now, shinra would scale to high complex outerversal, we would probably say that's not his true power that is not completely true, but as we would probably SAY that he wasn't trying in the battle against the evangelist as he easily handled the evangelists attacks with little to no effort. So if we were to say he wasn't trying, what would happened if he was using his full power? Now that would probably be a whole different story as if we saw more of him and him using his full power, he would probably scale to boundless due to me calculating the math and me doing mathematical guesses/calculations, I would probably scale to boundless as that would only really make sense as he's limited to absolutely nothing, so nothing would be holding him back. That's just my theory this is also me scaling without the debunk that they gave to Shinra-BanshoMan. That's only a guess/theory so you can help me scale him more properly if I messed up in th replys, thank you.
@@mikudubskasai8725 ye exactly . there is no point in comparing them since the authors can be like "... And they ascended to godhod " and make any chars untouchable but if we do shira is the strongest
@@josiahartis4207 how when goku is low complex multiversal due to nearly destroying U7 macrocosm which contains many pocket dimensions and higher dimensions up to 6d, while shinra is only universal so don't even bring up reality warping as beings within the Dragon Ball Universe aren't affected by hax if they're stronger than their opponents and that includes characters that can transmutate and warp time.
@@josiahartis4207 read the daizenshuu#4 also the neutral zone is beyond the infinite living world of the macrocosm and is represented as a bubble containing everything.
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The fact that the sun and moon in soul eater smile like that because shinra created them is so wild
In the story of Fire Force, unlike the sun the moon was modeled after Beni’s crimson moon attack against his master’s doppelganger thanks to its own image from mankind’s imagination.
Soul Eater?
@@tentaplayz3691did you not watch the video
@@Parkster-ed6wr No actually 💀
@@tentaplayz3691go watch soul eater
Whenever Stan Lee was asked "who is stronger than who" questions, his answer was always something like "Simple, if the writer is a big Hulk fan, then Hulk will be stronger, if the writer is a big Thor fan, then Thor will be stronger". I think the same principle applies here.
@@itzwizory9556 Beating Goku is wholly dependent on if he is hungry and if you know a good buffet spot/ (Pro Tip: Assume Goku is always hungry)
@@Avestani96 he for sure IS always hungry
I mean, it also just depends on the overall limits and average depiction of said character. It's easier to tell with aore self contained story, comics have to many different versions so it's impossible in that sense to scale who beats who. As for an actual fight between 2 characters, the best writers know how to keep the fight in character, so it'd not just be able abilities but, also the mentality of each character, skills, etc.
@@matthewjutzen424 well, whether it's just or not, the fact is they don't always do that, but it's canon none the less, take Disney's star wars for example.
@@Avestani96 except for chi chi ass. He eat that like squidward first bite of a krabby patty. Mans needs to tongue punch the hell out her fart box.
"Yaassss dadday goku, go slayy em hard 💅"-gohan
Theres more than 1 reason why goku sticks to fighting. It's all he knows. Plus hed sent chi chis guts flying out her mouth with 1 pump like its 2017 fortnite.
*Internal cringe intensifies*
"Hope can't be stopped....and I can't stop smiling". Shinra is simply that guy.
In his verse yes, in vs battle no 😂
@@은우1401 shinra vs Peak Eren Yeager
Sorry but luffy is gonna be him and more
@@jjging4308 no
Yes
I love how Captain Obi now gets to live in a world where he’s one of the strongest powered beings, after proving just how much he could do with his own will and strength.
Wait .. who does he become?
@@anthony89107 Himself I think basically.
im sure now as well he appreciates shinra even more knowing he instilled his teachings to him to shinra
@@emmanuelwil-jeff that’s actually a really great point too.
@@AspieMemoires well i think back to there interactions in the anime them are a great pair as well i see it as shinra deeming obi worthy
Shinrabanshoman made the Fire Force world the Soul Eater world, changing the nature of the universe itself, and gave that power up willingly.
He gave up his power?
@@midnighthunter5677I think he killed himself
@@Nasdontknohe didn’t he just married iris and become commander of the force
@@HHumphri99 awww
@@midnighthunter5677 yes he made death and death took his powers
The powercliffing in this series is insane and I’m surprised they did it so well. Like, the series starts from a Town-Mountain level of power-scaling then jumped to multiversal in just a few chapters.
definitely wasn’t a few takes to the middle/later half of the story to get there
*Low Outer level*
@@chiaki.hayakawa18 not outerversal
remember gurren lagan?
@@NextKingzfr Well I didn't meant instantly, I meant that the series went from city to mountain for quite a while until Sho appeared and the series jumped straight into universal then after tens of chapters it went straight to multiversal or arguably low outerversal. I didn't meant the story went from chapter one being town level then in chapter two it goes to multiversal.
This also plays nicely into one of the main concepts of Soul Eater being that madness was once a highly prevalent force that influenced the world and its characters which checks out with the way in which Shinra created everything.
This video was 100% needed. People just don’t know how ridiculous Fire Force is.
He is only planetary. He just recreated earthen life in a similar fashion to what Hagoromo can do. Yes he can probably manipulate time and does move faster than light, but even then he’s not actually that op.
@@TheAlphatitanthis is kinda crazy to say tbh knowing shinra is most likely wayyyyy above planetary as Arthur was destroying stars in his fight with dragon and shinra’s final form is prolly stronger
@@TheAlphatitan bro didn’t watch the video lol
@@TheAlphatitan that's makes no sense 😅 he's basically a reality warper and has the power to create literal gods he's multiversal at least you could even scale him higher
@@TheAlphatitan Stop copying statements you saw of ppl saying "he was debuked as planetary". None of them have proof
I love both but man I definitely save Fire Force. The meta-craziness is just too awesome, the concept of adolla and doppelgangers is super interesting.
Same...
And the idea behind insects. That was mind boogling
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Shinra was so powerful he gave us one of the best animanga ever created: soul eater
Nah, just manga. We don't talk about whatever the anime was...
@@yeepicowo3461like huhhh dh
@@yeepicowo3461i liked the anime
So because shinra created a universe and altered reality hes the strongest? zeno literally destroyed 6 universes at once like it was nothing came to trunks universe and changed deleted it like ot was a pressof a button😂😂😂😂 im 100% sure he can use one of these universes to alter it and make it how he wants if he wanted to he was sitting with his other self playing a game with planets bro destroying them like they were toys and hes a child
@@ShisuiDUchiha destroying is easy creating is hard
He's literally a creator deity, in his own tier!
Sinbad would 1 shot him
@@xtracheese9914nice
Sailor Cosmos would still smack him💀💀
@@lena_thicc8312🤡🤡🤡
@@xtracheese9914...the... Arabian ...guy...?
...who?
Shinra is so strong , they added his name to one of the strongest jutsus in Naruto.
Lol almighty push
Bruh Naruto came out first tho
@@tentaplayz3691 you guys know that Shinrabansho(森羅万象) is a Japanese four character idiom right? It’s not like Naruto created it or something.
@@tentaplayz3691the joke flew over your head huh
i'm pretty sure the jutsu came first and shinra came after.
Bro how do you explain all of this shit so well. The varying intricacies and physics concerning shinra and his brothers ability is so interesting😂 insane man
Probably because it’s explained in the show
It’s explained wrong mostly
Nice vid man! Just so you know Shinrabanshoman uses the power of the adola burst not to destroy but to create anything he wants it's like the Amaterasu but an infinite times better
they even said in the manga that the adola burst is the flame of creation
Shinra is the embodiment of literally having no enemies
'Takatou yogiri' from My instant death ability is overpowered is most overpowered character I have ever seen
Homeboy claims Soul Eater is one of his favorite manga/anime, but he hasn’t talk about it yet. The Soul Eater manga has so much things to talk about it’s nuts
Shinra Banshoman is what is known in fiction an Overdeity or Overgod. An Overgod is an entity capable of creating other gods and typically how the universe it's self came into being though some exceptions apply.
Overgods infinitely powerful and exceptional rare entities other examples include
Ao from Dungeons and Dragons
Iru Iluvitar from LOTR
Khaos from Greek Mythology (yes that is how their name is spelt)
Isn't Zeus stronger than Khaos?
And "their"?
@@tentaplayz3691 has no physical sex.
@@tentaplayz3691 he is referring to the primordial Chaos from which Nyx, Erebus, etc came from first.
@tentaplayz3691 Probably not stronger than someone who can create and destroy things at will, no. Zeus is very overrated I've noticed
@@tentaplayz3691 not even close.
Lets also not forget to mention Adolla. Adolla holds all concepts inside it which includes EVERYTHING it even mentions dimensionality. Which easily scales Adolla to High Outerversal and the Evangalist is the physical manifestation of said Adolla. And his feat of slaming the Despair (turned hope) to recreate over and over and over in a matter of a second is quite possibly the most impressive speed feat ever. Multiversal is an extreme lowball. Another good video breaking down the scale is Kosu Sama's video on the topic and hes done multiple breakdowns on why the "shinra debunks" have zero valid points.
It does not go up to outerveral thats a wild statement man
@@SDIOHWAKLsit does he so fast that he went back 250 years back in time lol he create a universe that is soul eater and he can create god by thinking about it, the statement is out there
@@SDIOHWAKLsjust read the manga and you will see what we talking about bro
@@SDIOHWAKLsin a manga he stated that he reverse time so many time that he forgot the count, only grant priest can do that
a dictionary holds a lot of concepts within it, all hail the power of the glorious books... lets not overcale the power of "conceptst!
Based on a few things said in this video, I can tell that the research was influenced by my video (which doesn’t upset me) but I just gotta say man great job! Great quality and execution, I probably would’ve elaborated on more of what it means to be “Outerversal” in comparison to scaling from other series just to highlight how much more powerful he is. All in all though, great video!
Also, he’s not the only Outerversal character in the series. Just a heads up if that peaks your interest! lol
Iris being a nun which is meant to being married to god has a whole new meaning if shinra is literally just god
Asta from black clover is hella jealous rn
I wonder how they will animate Shinra going back in time and seeing real life humans
Explain
@@Weluv_jae Chapter 216. Shinra goes into an adolla llink with inca. They move fast enough to go back in time to the first great cataclysm. The humans look like the humans from our world. In shinra's words "Those creatures look like humans"
@@RaduNerd that shit was trippy asf at first ngl
@@RaduNerd I had too do like three re reads of that section, and also the part with the old nun women who can create vibrations
i REALLY hope its just a live-action jumpscare
Shinra and Luffy would definitely be homies
+1 Sub for doing this.
Can't believe I forgot Shinra kicked the moon back to irbit against Earth+That Guys Gravity Ability...which makes the feat even more insane.
Also if I were to choose with a gun to my head. It's Fire Force. The concept of Pi, insects, doppelganger, adola, the cataclysm and life & death is just so well executed, a really perfect plot and story. Not to forget this man Atsushi is the first Mangaka I've seen so far who made fan service into a plot device. Really crazy writing. Definitely in my Top 10 AniManga of all time.
It's funny when you think about the power level in Fire Force and realize that 2 of Benimaru's fingers killed a planetary being. Imagine what his full hand and full power can do 🔥💀
Or simply everybody in fire force is just…. Strong. I wouldn’t say it’s top 10 of all time simply because of the interesting concept of Adola. If adola didn’t exist shinra’s powers wouldn’t exist neither would he because of who his mother was. But regardless it’s not top 10 because the main character becomes a god. Just like liu kang from mortal kombat who became a god and restarted the timeline “Mortal Kombat 1 coming out September 19th, 2023) it’s interesting yes but it’s not that crazy bro
Ben plus Orochimaru
I feel like every mangaka has a high school understanding of physics and nothing else.
Pretty reasonable estimation as most people in the world only have a high school understanding of physics.
@@topemeister3000
Honestly surprised I didn't get like 4 people coming in to say that stopping time by freezing everything is totally possible.
@@thermophile1695 I don’t think you should have been surprised - it was a very mild take.
Most people in the world have only a high school understanding of pretty much everything (subject-wise) in the world. It’s not surprising.
@Thermophile Can you explain why it's not possible? Not here for an argument, just generally curious.
@@LuxuFoo
I actually had a long conversation about the topic of absolute zero with my uncle who has a PhD in physics.
Basically, what we call 'absolute zero' isn't a particle completely stopping its movement, it's all unnecessary movement stopping. Quantum events still occur, as well as electron orbits, and some other things. Objects also maintain their momentum, so the earth would continue to orbit around the sun, a thrown ball would continue to fly, and so on.
If you somehow brought the entire universe to absolute zero at once, time wouldn't stop at all. In fact, the result would be pretty much exactly what you think would happen if you froze everything. Everyone would explode from the water in their body instantly freezing, the atmosphere would turn into a liquid, laying on top of the ocean, and the sun would start to collapse into a neutron star as it loses the heat to maintain fusion and oppose gravity.
Though that brings up another question: What would happen if you remove the 'unnecessary' part, and got rid of ALL particle motion? The short answer is we don't know, but considering that all particles are essentially vibrations in the fabric of spacetime (assuming our current understanding of string theory is correct, of course), doing that might just.... Stop all matter from existing, which is fun.
Impressive video, meticulously crafted with a title that subtly hints at the art of angling. It's intriguing to contemplate the notion that Saitama's unparalleled prowess could effortlessly secure victory with a singular, well-executed punch.
🎉😂great video man fire force really is something great and I love those sounds they use and insane villains 👌
The sudden twist that that Fire Force is simply a long long lost Prequel to Soul Eater, is just chef’s kiss.
Love this video, saying Shinra is Him is a crazy understatement
Could you do a video accurately scaling Naruto, you know so much about him I'd imagine your scaling would be the most accurate
Nah he’s not the good at power scaling he make good videos tho tho
@@nsusky4020 he is bro
@@myuchiha254 he’s not his scaling for Saitama was completely wrong, if u think his scaling is accurate than there’s nothing wrong with tht like I said he makes very good videos I watch em everyday
@@nsusky4020 where did he scale saitama if it's solar system to galaxy lvl he's right
@@myuchiha254We ain't been shown no galaxy to solar system level.
40% shinra power explanations 60% science lecture
He's definitely beating goku.
Wdym he definitely, remember when whis reverted time and he said he can only do it once, shinra stated that he did it so many time that he lost count lol, I believe grant priest can do it that many time, shinra created a universe his a ruler of death so he can destroy and create planets and universe he create a universe only Zeno can do that his way stronger then goku and the things is out there
@@lupus1192 doesn't change the fact that no attack will make a effect on it as he will convert the attack in something else and he can litteraly stop time
False 🤣☠️ he not even faster than goku. Goku definitely beating him, just because he has certain abilities that sound amazing has nothing to do with strength 🤣 it’s just an ability.
Goku Vegeta & all z fighters base form already can move at the speed of light 🤣 in the saiyan saga. And they were considered weak as hell back then. You not know how powerful they are now☠️ Dbz is the goat for a reason. Nobody stronger than goku & Vegeta nor broly & Gohan. Just because some anime’s look cooler abilities are dope doesn’t make anybody stronger. Dbz literally passed this level of strength long time ago
Yes.
man, I'm Brazilian, I watched the whole video and for me, who already had an ultra powerful vision of shinra, I have an even bigger vision, it opened my mind a lot and I really liked the content, very detailed and informed
since we are talking about really powerfull characters you should really do a "How powerful is Anos Voldigoad"
And reinhart from re zero
@@barasantoso1846 Reinhard should be Outerversal too
I love Fire Force not because of Fire Force, but because of the Ending. Oh my god it makes grinding through 300 chapters - or so, finished ages ago - sooo much WORTH IT!!!
Hyped been waiting for this one. Fire force so highly underrated.
The fact that he created soul eater 🤯
So he's a mangaka?
Literally every broken ass ability in fire force is summed up as "I can do it with fire just go with it"
lmao
Thank you really needed this so now I can actually guarantee Rimaru is still just a bigger god
Honestly fireforce is one of my favorite manga/animes I read and watched everything so far and I never thought it would be this amazing
before i watch this, im just gonna say, Benimaru vs that demon infernal is still "awesome" to this day.
He created Lord Death?! Well now power analysts have to analyse Lord Death to try and quantify Shinra's power level.
It's so funny to me that this series was literally people fighting fire with fire and by the end of the first season the main character figured out time travel by kicking. It's such a crazy series I love FF
As an engineer, I loved how clear your explanation of newton’s laws are in the universe! Well done!
Just finished season 1 and HOLY SHIT! that Sho vs Shinra fight had me on the edge of my seat. Shinra is HIM bro. Damn.
day 6 of asking nick to finish jojo
Gonna be awhile he's trying to finish one piece rn
Hajun, featherine, Sinbad, Anti-Spiral, Jin Mori, prob sung jin woo: Nah, I’d win.
There isn't a bad choice when choosing between Soul Eater and Fire Force. I just wish the anime stayed on track with the manga in Soul Eater. Also Captain Obi is the GOAT
Nick explaining science makes me feel like im learning real life lore
I certainly hope he rebuilt the supermarket Saitama has vouchers for,....or else there's gonna be a whole other video coming up ^^
all jokes aside. Dude seems to be able to take a hit or two
Can he destroy, better yet, erase a Nokia 3310 from existence?
If yes, then Goku is a sperm to him.
Shinra poops on Goku
soul eater is one of my all time favorite anime’s people always complain about the animation for some reason but the characters and story as a whole i loved i can always go back and watch soul eater and not get bored wish there was more maybe after fire force we can get some more and look into what happened after shinra makes that universe
Shinra is basically just a Supreme Kai who actually does his job very well
The Weeb Commander: Shinra IS The STRONGEST Character in Anime!
Anime power scalers: hahahahaha!!!
At the end of the day, it really all boils down to the imagination of the creators / writers, ie: One random invincible protagonist with all the powers of the Gods with unlimited capabilities coming right up please~
He isn’t the strongest since there’s other Manga I’d put above fire force scaling wise like Medaka box but I’d put it in top 10 because of the whole Archetype manipulation
I love the concept of literally creating an another anime, and connecting them so well. Seems that the mangaka had all prepared from the very beginning, but I dont understand how fire force went from a fireman anime to a multiversal deity capable of creating universes.
We all know Bobobobo is the strongest Shounen MC. Shinra got nothing on him
There are so many anime protagonist stronger than Shinra it's actually hilarious
@@doGInVain you’re being sarcastic right?
@Stimi Hendrix no, there are many multiversal (4D and above) and outerversal (characters that exist outside all-time space & dimensionality) characters that outscale him. Exp. Bobobobo, endgame Toriko & NeoAcia, Saint Seiya, Sailor Moon etc etc. I could do this all day.
@@doGInVain I'm glad people remember that there's always someone stronger
@@doGInVain if we are including parody anime and old shows, then obviously no. but if we are talking about the current top shounen protagonist, there aren’t really that many.
The power scaling is FUCKING crazy💀💀😭
the thing with sho and his ability is that once his ability is overcome by shinra, sho would be powerless, but in the anime we see them fighting at a speed a normal human cant comprehend. which shouldn't be possible because sho only seems to be moving super quick while he is actually just stopping time and moving at normal speed. its one of the biggest plot holes in fire force.
Thats a good point. But, if you had to try to give a reason, I guess you could argue that, yes, Shinra overcame his ability, but maybe he didn't TOTALY negate it. In other words, he was still affected. So maybe you could argue that Sho WAS moving normally and Shinra was actually still slowed. But since we see from Shinra's pov, it looks like Sho is moving really fast, because thats what it looks like to Shinra. Im not trying to say its not a plot hole. Im just saying that, if I had to put logic to it, thats the best way I could. It doesn't really work, ik, but its the best i could do.
6:18 if I ever see the word cook again I will end it. I'm genuinely crying rn
Do one with Rimuru in his WN form pls 🔥🔥🔥
Shinra is just ridiculous. The manga been out for a long time now, ive just finished it, and ive never seen anything like it. Ive seen OP MCs like obviously Goku, Rimuru, Saitama, Anos etc but shinra is just on a whole other level
Basically a mother, and her 2 son’s united, and they produced a divine child that was so upset by how they were made that they made sure that nobody could do it again. After that he asexually reproduced.
Performed the first soul resonance and became god what a G
Thanks for giving me something to watch I was getting bored of youtube
Okay so Shinra, Anos, and Sinbad all walk into a bar … 😂
Anos beats all of them. Shinra is 1C at best.
Anos is tier 0, everything else ever is infinity-Z by comparison
...okay, not really
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 anos is nowhere near Boundless, outer at best
@@mordagaubree9471 I was joking, the later part should've made it obvious
Featherine Augustus Aurora (umeniko) just stops the narrative right there and gets a drink with rheinhard Heydrich and mercurius (dies irae) 👌💪🏽
Goku: *reads the title* Cool, but we need to talk.
Dante: "Nah I got this"
Sonic: "I can wait"
Bo-bobo: "Me too"
Wouldn’t Kamagawa from Meddaka Box still be stronger? I feel like his ability “all fiction” kind of beats….EVERYONE
LN Dio and LN Kars laughing in the corner 💀
Overrated
Might be Featherine from Umeniko. She's tier 1-A, as close to omnipotent as you can get.
@@NotDannyDevito bro I think she is 2B and I think the strongest anime character is LN Dio because he is true boundless
@@Cartaphilus704 Battle wiki has her true form at 1A, which is below boundless ofc. The Creator in Umineko is tier 0 however, so that's equal to LN Dio. But yeah, at the end of the day there are characters who scale so much higher than Shinra. Vs Battle does have Heaven Ascension Dio at 2C maximum, so not sure where boundless is coming from, then again I'm anime only for JoJo.
Great video man
i love your content but Shinra is most definitely not the strongest in anime. Here are some that would probably beat him. Rimuru Tempest.Gilgamesh.Raquel Alucard .Caster(fate). Antispiral. Gurren Lagann. Kinzo Ushiromiya. Featherine. Akuto Sai.
Anos to0o. Hajun too. And Saber with Unsealed excalibur would too
12:04 Quarks don’t make up electrons. Electrons are fundamental particles
Shinra is definitely among the strongest anime characters but definitely isn't the strongest there are quite a few characters above him
I feel like once you get to the reality warping stage, there isn't anyone above you. It's simply who can get their warping off faster.
@@neonicon8500t depends on cosmology. Simple 👍. Also there are characters that are immune to reality warping.
Yeah. Characters like Rimuru and Anos are way above him
@@ayush9202 You definitely watch anime through RUclips shorts and videos
@@ayush9202 and featherine, hajun, yogiri and ruphas
BRO SHINRA IS LITTERALLY GOD OF GODS BRO HES SO BROKE EVEN IF LELUCH CONTROLS HIM AND END UP KILLING HIMSELF HE CAN JUST GET BACK UP LIKE GEAR 5TH LUFFY
Goku speed blitz and one shots
Fax 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Shinra is litterally faster than goku
You should 100% do Soul Eater videos too
Mori-jin (god of high school) is honestly at least on the same level
cap
Depends on how you scale his nirvana, if he scales it to ours then Mori is stronger
Hey nick you should do a Anos Voldigoad vs Shinra
Shinra!!!🔥🔥🔥
This doesn't really have anything to with this video specifically but one of if not my favorite feat of strength from Fire Force is when Beni fight's his doppelganger. Since Beni is considered the strongest fire fighter (by the majority of the world), Beni's doppelganger is a manifestation of all of humanity's collective idea of what the strongest fire fighter in the world is. But Beni is actually SO STRONG that he easily defeats his doppelganger, meaning that all of humanity is incapable of even fathoming how strong Beni actually is.
Just wanna say that the Fate characters are unexpectedly powerful. there are 9th dimensional beings in the fate verse and Artoria herself is like a 6th dimensional being by herself or something like that.
There’s 100s of people stronger than shinra. The story is just pulled together by the concept of adola which shinra gets his powers from in the first place. Interesting story of how someone gets way stronger. But not the best in the world or anything,
Anti-spiral is hyperversal
Anos is hyperversal
Featherine is outerversal
What's your point that Saber is 6th dimensional and fate is full of 9th dimensional beings?
If it's because you're giving an example of a character that can beat shinra there are other characters you can turn to
@@CozmikPerm218 Probably because the pure existance of the nasuverse makes the video completly wrong since there are many much stronger characters in the nasuverse due to cosmology. Obviously there are other verses that would neg diff the shit out of shinra
depending on your interpretation shinra literally tranceds the concept of dimensionality
@@CozmikPerm218 I was just stating a fact lol. That was the point.
Hajun,fetherine,akuto sai, Gilgamesh and jin mori in the corner laughing
Great video 💯😅
Rimuru anos anti spiral
@@Memer_345 exactly
@@Memer_345 yes that's what I am talking about
Shinra may be outrageously strong, but he 100% isn’t soloing all of anime.
Right, Zeno could literally flick his wrist and erase him and his whole verse. 🤣😭
@@connormacdonald3379 nah, Zeno is around the same level of power but, has less hax and less fighting ability.
@@matthewjutzen424 Yeah, I agree. Zeno winning is a maybe. And I'm kind of a DB fanboy, but not at the same time. I'm a fanboy, but I don't deny facts (like the DBtards do.)
Although Xeno Krillin will 1 shot. Because he's even 1 shotting Zeno from the main timeline.
@@connormacdonald3379Zeno would get destoryed
Glad your channel popped up while I was looking for another anime to watch... Though now I can't watch this video yet LOL
Shinra is not the strongest character in Anime. Kami Tanchi/ Featherine is and in Manga/ Novel Hajun is. Anos, Void Shiki, Ren, Akuto negs Shinra.
bro, nobody cares. This is a video bout his powers, not who he will beat. Smh anime community so stupid
All these anime protags that end up as gods have the same powers i honestly dont know how yall differentiate between who’s stronger than who
We don't. We just glaze the one we like the most
There are couple of points i would take in to consideration
> the stars that where destroyed by Arthur and dragon during their fight was just made of rocks and is no where as large a star they are even smaler than the moon .
> Arthur with his strogest attack severed earth in two which is less than a planetary feat but he should easily be planetary because he can create an attack that large .
> shinra's infinite speed and time based powers are based on the fact that the fire force verse is limited by the speed of light even the evangelist couldn't produce an attack faster but in other verses going faster than light is a mid level feat that doesn't really help on time travel.
> shinra kicking the moon into orbit was a considerably smaller moon with its alteration due to it being shaped by adola so i don't think it scales to that much .
> shinrabansho man depends on adola . He is powered by the hopes because adola is superimposed on the real earth . All his reality warping is linked to adola and is possibe because of adola .
> shinra didn't create death he gave death a form . Death always existed he just made it less intimidating.
> shinra took the net whole of both earth and adola and made it into a new world with new rules we don't know of he affected the whole universe since we know that the sun was also born of a great cataclysm so there is a chance that the reach of adola is limited
Wait a sec-
Forgive me if I’m wrong, but Shinra in Banshomen form didn’t have hysterical strength active… does that mean we only saw a fraction of Banshomens power when at 30%?!
Akuto Sai, Anti-Spiral
,Sinbad, Misogi Kumagawa
,Ajimu Najimi
, and so on and so forth there are so many characters that overpowered him that it's not even funny so before proclaiming that he is the strongest in all anime you should probably watch the older anime because there are lots of them they can easily destroy him with but a thought.
Dat necklace that this Nick..... aah hum. Is wearing.. where can I get it? Like fr Fr
“But can he beat Gok-“ yes & effortlessly
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@@alwayzwet2067 nigga cope
Not even close 😂
Imagine being so strong you make an entirely new anime, that's older than yours
Anos voldigoad and yhwach didn’t take this video lightly
Bro anos most likely killed him from coughing to hard💀💀
@@josiahartis4207 idk how I didn’t see this facts bro 😂
This video made me read all of fire force. Just finished in about 3 days. Now I am reading soul eater! Thanks
I just came here to comment "HE NOT BEATIN GOKU" you guys have a good day🤠
As we know of right now, shinra would scale to high complex outerversal, we would probably say that's not his true power that is not completely true, but as we would probably SAY that he wasn't trying in the battle against the evangelist as he easily handled the evangelists attacks with little to no effort. So if we were to say he wasn't trying, what would happened if he was using his full power? Now that would probably be a whole different story as if we saw more of him and him using his full power, he would probably scale to boundless due to me calculating the math and me doing mathematical guesses/calculations, I would probably scale to boundless as that would only really make sense as he's limited to absolutely nothing, so nothing would be holding him back. That's just my theory this is also me scaling without the debunk that they gave to Shinra-BanshoMan. That's only a guess/theory so you can help me scale him more properly if I messed up in th replys, thank you.
He’s not even close to being the strongest in anime
Then who is 🤷♂️ ? Shira controls things that EXIST wtf
@@feelingdedinsidewell off this logic, I created a legit character who’s more powerful than all. His name is brandon dallas (me) stg no cap
@@mikudubskasai8725 ye exactly . there is no point in comparing them since the authors can be like "... And they ascended to godhod " and make any chars untouchable but if we do shira is the strongest
Hajun can wipe shinra off this planet and off this universe
@@gemmalGemboi who?
Love it. Thank you 👍👍👍
Wang Ling would solo shinra.
True
You must be high
@@africar4592 you must be brain dead if you think otherwise
Also it'd be absolutely nuts to see a Fairy Tail crossover, and what would happen if Natsu ate flames that powerful.
Not beating Goku or Saitama, Rimaru, Zeno, Anos nor Fetherine
Saitama definitely loses bro
And goku getting his cheeks clapped but everybody else there is fax
@@josiahartis4207 how when goku is low complex multiversal due to nearly destroying U7 macrocosm which contains many pocket dimensions and higher dimensions up to 6d, while shinra is only universal so don't even bring up reality warping as beings within the Dragon Ball Universe aren't affected by hax if they're stronger than their opponents and that includes characters that can transmutate and warp time.
@@malikmcfarlane6060 when did dbs have dimensional scaling above 4d and know goku is a 3D being with 4d power but anything above that is highballing
@@josiahartis4207 read the daizenshuu#4 also the neutral zone is beyond the infinite living world of the macrocosm and is represented as a bubble containing everything.
For you I’ll like sub and turn notis on bc this was a good vid
saitama claps
*Gets clapped*
Satima is a gag character dude that's like Goku vs the purple hair chick
He’s a gimmick character, no one cares at this point. We know he does it’s boring
No. Saitama os ass. Goku can defeat him shut the hell up.