Trying to decide on the approach for my personal network, and I pretty much got to what you've shown (the simpler version). Difference is that I've got ISP router => Archer AX73 (which gives me main WLAN + a guest network) => 2x Switches => LAN devices I was wondering if I can do ISP => MR100 (have it pass internet through either ISP or 4G) => AX73 which is still used as the main router for everything else => 2x Switches => LAN Would you recommend some other device to have the flow I'm aiming for?
Hello ! Thank you for your video. I needed a 4G backup connection and it's good that you show the interface of the router , so I bought a tl mr 150. One suggestion. I set dual detection (ping+DNS) and the switch time from one connection to another is only 5 seconds. You should try it
Hi, I liked the video, just really did not get the point in doing this. In my case, I have exactly the first setup, two ISP providers, one DSL, one cellular, TP router to balance them on WAN ports, TP-link connects to local network which has its own Wifi. Are you trying to minimize the amount of devices?
Hey! I just had really lousy Internet for a while and wanted an automatic means of managing the fail over. In the end I thankfully got fiber. But until then it worked nicely to basically eliminate downtime.
With your setup, I noticed you have DHCP on the tplink turned on, does this cause issue with the DHCP turned on also on the ISP router? I'm worried about the back up coming on but the DHCP causing issue back down the line back to the ISP router
Well spotted! So: When I pulled down the DHCP server on the cellular router (the TP-Link one), I wasn't able to access the embedded web server (or "admin panel" as most people simply call it). There's probably a resolution online but I gave up trying to make it work. So I just left it up as you observed. My rationale for thinking it's probably okay is that I've taken down the WiFi on the router and the only thing this does is connect into the load balancer. The second thing I did: I assigned the cellular router with a manual IP that was outside the range of the DHCP server on the load balancer. This is best practice (I think!) and avoids any conflicts between the two servers. You want all your WAN interfaces to have IP addresses that are not within the LAN range. This is, as far as I know, about the best you can do to manually try to use the router in "bridge mode" which unfortunately the TP-Link cellular routers don't support out of the box. Although yes - ideally you'd also take down the DHCP server if you can find a way to do so and still enter the admin area for occasional maintenance. All that being said, and in spite of all this, now and again the connection between the cellular and the load balancer breaks and I needed to manually reconnect it. Personally, I would not recommend buying a TP-Link cellular router for this purpose. Their support is (in my opinion) very poor and if you have the budget, I would buy a cellular router that has a bridge setting out of the box. Netgear have a couple of products that do this and should be easy to source if you are in the US.
@@DanielSRosehill I'm having trouble with integration. HOTbox 5 is already set up as 192.168.1.1, and has servers connected to it. MR600 configured itself on 192.168.0.1. It blocks access to the existing servers on the LAN. What would you change?
Hi, thank you for sharing this. I currently looking for failover solution exactly like this. 1 question though, does your current setup able to gives notifications when failover to 4g happens?
@Daniel Rosehill's Very Random RUclips Channel please help I have recently gotten sky as my broadband with 4g backup I got cradlepoint 4g to backup the router but I don't know hoe to is all set but I don't have the wan or the lan
Don't take this as technical advice, but I don't see any reason why not. The load balancer just monitors and prioritizes incoming WANs according to how you configure it. So long as the incoming connections are viable, I don't think it matters whether they're fiber, DSL, coax, cellular, or satellite in origin.
Hi. I'm not a tech guy but having Internet issues with phone line Internet provider at work. This router is connected to a network and when it stopped working, I tried to connect my tplink router from home in its place until technician comes out but its not working for me. If I just connect my tplink router to Vodafone router should I be in a better position?
Will doing this slow down the incoming internet feed as from what I can see you are feeding the isp routers output into a 100mbps port on the tp link mr then back out at I presume 100mbps?
Sadly I have a very crappy 80/4 DSL connection. But you're correct. You'll want to ensure that you have no bottlenecks along the way. I've since upgraded my load balancer to the Tplink ER605 which has gigabit ports. And finally of course get the fastest AP possible and.... last but not least of course make sure all the ethernet cabling along the way is rated well above your max average connection speed.
Hello ! Thank you for your video. I needed a 4G backup connection and it's good that you show the interface of the router , so I bought a tl mr 150. One suggestion. I set dual detection (ping+DNS) and the switch time from one connection to another is only 5 seconds. You should try it
Thank you for this. Ive been looking for exactly what you have done. Fab video,
Trying to decide on the approach for my personal network, and I pretty much got to what you've shown (the simpler version).
Difference is that I've got ISP router => Archer AX73 (which gives me main WLAN + a guest network) => 2x Switches => LAN devices
I was wondering if I can do ISP => MR100 (have it pass internet through either ISP or 4G) => AX73 which is still used as the main router for everything else => 2x Switches => LAN
Would you recommend some other device to have the flow I'm aiming for?
Hello ! Thank you for your video. I needed a 4G backup connection and it's good that you show the interface of the router , so I bought a tl mr 150. One suggestion. I set dual detection (ping+DNS) and the switch time from one connection to another is only 5 seconds. You should try it
Hi, I liked the video, just really did not get the point in doing this. In my case, I have exactly the first setup, two ISP providers, one DSL, one cellular, TP router to balance them on WAN ports, TP-link connects to local network which has its own Wifi. Are you trying to minimize the amount of devices?
Hey! I just had really lousy Internet for a while and wanted an automatic means of managing the fail over. In the end I thankfully got fiber. But until then it worked nicely to basically eliminate downtime.
With your setup, I noticed you have DHCP on the tplink turned on, does this cause issue with the DHCP turned on also on the ISP router? I'm worried about the back up coming on but the DHCP causing issue back down the line back to the ISP router
Well spotted!
So:
When I pulled down the DHCP server on the cellular router (the TP-Link one), I wasn't able to access the embedded web server (or "admin panel" as most people simply call it).
There's probably a resolution online but I gave up trying to make it work. So I just left it up as you observed.
My rationale for thinking it's probably okay is that I've taken down the WiFi on the router and the only thing this does is connect into the load balancer.
The second thing I did: I assigned the cellular router with a manual IP that was outside the range of the DHCP server on the load balancer. This is best practice (I think!) and avoids any conflicts between the two servers. You want all your WAN interfaces to have IP addresses that are not within the LAN range.
This is, as far as I know, about the best you can do to manually try to use the router in "bridge mode" which unfortunately the TP-Link cellular routers don't support out of the box. Although yes - ideally you'd also take down the DHCP server if you can find a way to do so and still enter the admin area for occasional maintenance.
All that being said, and in spite of all this, now and again the connection between the cellular and the load balancer breaks and I needed to manually reconnect it.
Personally, I would not recommend buying a TP-Link cellular router for this purpose. Their support is (in my opinion) very poor and if you have the budget, I would buy a cellular router that has a bridge setting out of the box. Netgear have a couple of products that do this and should be easy to source if you are in the US.
@@DanielSRosehill I'm having trouble with integration. HOTbox 5 is already set up as 192.168.1.1, and has servers connected to it. MR600 configured itself on 192.168.0.1. It blocks access to the existing servers on the LAN. What would you change?
Hi, thank you for sharing this. I currently looking for failover solution exactly like this. 1 question though, does your current setup able to gives notifications when failover to 4g happens?
Hey. No, no notifications. Don't believe it's a feature. Probably something you could code on the device level based upon a public IP change.
@Daniel Rosehill's Very Random RUclips Channel please help I have recently gotten sky as my broadband with 4g backup I got cradlepoint 4g to backup the router but I don't know hoe to is all set but I don't have the wan or the lan
hello can i use 2 of 4g/LTE router as an wan1 and wan2 connect to load balance router(Omada vpn gigabit) to make both 4g as failover
Don't take this as technical advice, but I don't see any reason why not. The load balancer just monitors and prioritizes incoming WANs according to how you configure it. So long as the incoming connections are viable, I don't think it matters whether they're fiber, DSL, coax, cellular, or satellite in origin.
@@DanielSRosehill thank you.
what if you are using mobile hotspot as backup ? will it work as backup in case ISP is offline ?
Yes that's exactly the point
Hi. I'm not a tech guy but having Internet issues with phone line Internet provider at work. This router is connected to a network and when it stopped working, I tried to connect my tplink router from home in its place until technician comes out but its not working for me. If I just connect my tplink router to Vodafone router should I be in a better position?
Will doing this slow down the incoming internet feed as from what I can see you are feeding the isp routers output into a 100mbps port on the tp link mr then back out at I presume 100mbps?
Sadly I have a very crappy 80/4 DSL connection. But you're correct. You'll want to ensure that you have no bottlenecks along the way. I've since upgraded my load balancer to the Tplink ER605 which has gigabit ports. And finally of course get the fastest AP possible and.... last but not least of course make sure all the ethernet cabling along the way is rated well above your max average connection speed.
Does this support failback? When the primary isp goes up it will make the connection again instead of 3g/4g?
Yes. Although I'd recommend going with a different load balancer than TP-Link (personally).
Nice
Who knew how importang it is these days to have backup internet when your main internet is down these days?!
Still very relevant even with a great primary connection. Downtime is still a fact of life in most parts of the world!
Hello ! Thank you for your video. I needed a 4G backup connection and it's good that you show the interface of the router , so I bought a tl mr 150. One suggestion. I set dual detection (ping+DNS) and the switch time from one connection to another is only 5 seconds. You should try it