Guess I'm Dumb - Brian Wilson Harmonic Analysis

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  • Опубликовано: 25 янв 2025

Комментарии • 44

  • @garybrockie6327
    @garybrockie6327 2 года назад +10

    The first time I heard this song it knocked me out. It was like Brian Wilson wrote a Bacharach song. I love this song. Thanks for your analysis, I think you might be right on the Feels to Reels thing.

  • @chorch78
    @chorch78 Год назад +1

    Wonderful analysis of one of my favorite Brian's compositons, thanks!

  • @bsouth7042
    @bsouth7042 Год назад +2

    I really think you’re a great musician. You kind of remind me of one of The Beach Boys session musicians with your ability to do so many things well. I really appreciate your hard work and I feel like I’m getting college credit for free in a music composition class. I also think you have a clever sense of humor which probably goes over people’s head a lot of time. Thank you for this channel.

  • @jimcassidy4073
    @jimcassidy4073 2 года назад +3

    I've long felt that the jumping-off point for this song was Leiber & Stoller's "On Broadway" (which we know Brian loves). Of course, Brian takes it into a whole different dimension.

  • @ericrose3877
    @ericrose3877 3 месяца назад

    Sounds great, Joshilyn.

  • @stephennewcombe976
    @stephennewcombe976 3 года назад +2

    Fantastic as usual. Any little bit is welcome

  • @sanleo3411
    @sanleo3411 3 года назад +6

    This is amazing, I’ve been looking to play this on piano the most accurate way possible, this is very helpful! It would be great if you could also record the piano to take a good look at that great detailed playing! Hope to see a video on Summer Means New Love

  • @greagandev
    @greagandev 2 года назад +2

    Good stuff! Thank you.

  • @soundsofyore
    @soundsofyore 2 года назад +1

    Interesting analysis! Well done!

  • @jonathanw3909
    @jonathanw3909 3 года назад +4

    wonderful video! one note, i'm pretty sure the chord brian lands on on the word "care" is actually a Dbmaj9, the Db softly being played in the bass while the other instruments end the melodic line, followed by an Ebmin11 formed by those horns. to me those are the most heartbreaking chords in one of brian's most heartbreaking songs.

    • @joshilynhoisington
      @joshilynhoisington  3 года назад +2

      I'd buy that. I admit I kind of ignore the actual fundamental there because I like what the celli are doing, but it's true, the Db is the bass note.

    • @jonathanw3909
      @jonathanw3909 3 года назад +1

      @@joshilynhoisington that's fair, those celli are gorgeous. so glad you did a video on this song.

  • @vrzM8
    @vrzM8 3 года назад +9

    I have noticed that verses with a back and forth between a given chord and the II, droning the bass throughout to make the second chord an add9, are a bit of a spector thing (I think You've Lost That Lovin Feelin does it among a few others). It has a distinctively "dramatic" sound in my opinion. I believe it happens in the first half of verses to California Girls too.

    • @JDrevolver66
      @JDrevolver66 3 года назад +2

      Rod Argent's "If it Don't Work Out" is interestingly similar to this song. Brian was certainly a master of that pedal point bass.

  • @harleypinson7428
    @harleypinson7428 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for everything!

  • @donmalcolm4365
    @donmalcolm4365 3 года назад +3

    Yes! This is a good template for the opening discussion of any song you'd tackle in this phase of Brian's songwriting...giving the more average listener the understructure of the song. If you follow this up, either continuing in the video or doing a "part two," folks will get everything in an easily digestible form. "Feels to Reels" is a fine title, and if they are kept separate you can revisit at the end of the "SD/SN" project with a "feels overview" where you present all the "feels" that have been uncovered for the entire LP (or at least the portions you decide to do.
    The other thing that might be useful to explore in this time frame would be Brian's flow toward, through and away from (beyond?) Spector...this song seems like Brian almost saying farewell to writing material in a similar vein to Phil, as he takes the chords into more elaborate formulations. Playing some of the piano understructure for a number of relevant Spector tunes might add some intriguing and ear-opening context for the less experienced listeners.

  • @peterermish3017
    @peterermish3017 7 месяцев назад

    Just found this video. Well done. Thank you.

  • @essbo53
    @essbo53 3 года назад +3

    Joshilyn, check out Hank Levine Orchestra's IMAGE PT. 1 from 1961, especially the chord progression and bassline.
    It was actually an LA hit - specifically on KFWB! Its melody was taken from KEWB and KFWB's call letter jingle.

  • @pinecone8722
    @pinecone8722 3 года назад +1

    Excellent! I support future videos like this. Would love to see how you approach Pet Sounds songs and even Smile stuff.

  • @bruceengelhart
    @bruceengelhart 3 года назад +2

    Wonderful, and awesome keyboard playing! So nice to see you back again, Joshilyn!

  • @davidhaight5594
    @davidhaight5594 3 года назад +3

    I would love to see an analysis of Til I Die

    • @joshilynhoisington
      @joshilynhoisington  3 года назад +2

      There will be one of those coming in some form pretty soon!

  • @sunsetatlabrea
    @sunsetatlabrea 3 года назад +3

    If in doubt with a BW chord, it's probably an 11th! Really enjoyed this analysis of a clear stepping stone on the way to Pet Sounds... Three Blind Mice or Sherry She Needs Me next?

  • @jeffreybrand9132
    @jeffreybrand9132 3 года назад +2

    Wonderful. Thank you.

  • @rangergrrrl
    @rangergrrrl 3 года назад +2

    So glad to get a new BW/BBs video from you! Welcome back! Feels to Reels is a groovy title. The only other idea that popped into my mind was Feels Flows, which isn't quite as snappy. (Try saying it fast three times. Ha.) I may have asked you this before on a video many moons ago, but who is that pictured on the wall behind you? Take care, J...!

  • @anyversionofme
    @anyversionofme 3 года назад +2

    Thank you, another good one!
    With the same kind of « feel », listen to Go away little girl, composed two years before by Carole King.
    Same bass line as Good Vibration, but the right hand plays I iii7 ii7 over it.

  • @Paul-dw2cl
    @Paul-dw2cl 2 года назад +2

    The I IV V actually sounded pretty cool

  • @Desaulnierspf
    @Desaulnierspf 3 года назад

    I'm So happy you made a new video, i particulary like this song.I play guitar, bass, drum, sing sometimes.... and tried piano for a few beatles or oasis songs. You make me more understand piano ,horns, harpsicord, etc..... thanks alot

  • @otagunma86
    @otagunma86 2 года назад +1

    Nice!

  • @NOWtheband
    @NOWtheband 3 года назад +1

    Won-won-wonderful!

  • @spooky1304
    @spooky1304 2 года назад +2

    Unfathomably lovely verses and instrumental break - I can never understand why this wasn't a huge hit. Possibly because the section 'But I give in when I know I should be strong'
    is a bit unusual in the phrasing - a bit staccato compared to the flow of the verse..? I think it could have been more pop radio friendly if it had kept the flow going..?

  • @firstlastname3865
    @firstlastname3865 8 месяцев назад

    You are super talented.... you're reverse engineering one of the best "unknown" Brian Wilson creations. Outtakes from the period show the Beach Boys attempting this song but maybe the "Dumb" lyric sorta put 'em off? I dunno but Glen Campbell's just amazing with his vocals. No problem with stretching his vocal cords. It's a challenging lead vocal. And, the Guess I'm Dumb back-up vocals are perfect. Not intrusive (like "Be True To Your School") but very very effective. Great job. Time to grab my Hofner bass & learn a proper bottom-end for the song.

  • @robhouse1926
    @robhouse1926 2 года назад +1

    Are you using a Shure 545 there? If I’m not mistaken, they used that on Brian’s voice quite a bit which I’m sure you know!

    • @joshilynhoisington
      @joshilynhoisington  2 года назад +3

      Yes, I'm quite fond of the Shure 545. It was not only something that Chuck Britz used on Brian's leads, but was pretty much the SM57 of its day, they used it on everything, especially at United Western. Other places, like Gold Star, seem to have thought of the EV 666 in that way. So there was a sort of hyper-local in-house practice!

    • @robhouse1926
      @robhouse1926 2 года назад +2

      Thanks Joshilyn, I am loving your videos!

  • @donaldlariviere
    @donaldlariviere 2 года назад +1

    4:32

  • @matheuschaves5808
    @matheuschaves5808 3 года назад

    Where are your incredible vídeo singing a day in the life of a tree? Good to see you.

  • @animefinn
    @animefinn 3 года назад +1

    Next time you ought to angle the camera so that we can see what you're playing on the piano.... Hope you can make another video of just the piano part

  • @j.d.helsley2874
    @j.d.helsley2874 4 месяца назад

    Are you sure you are not somehow Brian’s kid?

  • @donaldlariviere
    @donaldlariviere 2 года назад +1

    5:18

  • @donaldlariviere
    @donaldlariviere 2 года назад +1

    4:17