It’s not surprising to me at all. It takes an incredible amount of energy, focus and effort to prepare for a deep tournament run. It’s not easy to continue pushing beyond that. It always surprises me how teams keep chaining tournaments. It’s very draining and they’d probably benefit from skipping a few tournaments for rest and practice.
crazy what beating a newly formed astralis and some bots does to your confidence - then as soon as you start losing taz blows smoke upo all of your asses saying youre pros and then you get stomped because POLISH GASLIGHTING DSOESNT BEAT ACTUAL STRATS
@@cody6550Not many jobs are consistently traveling and focusing for 12-14 hours a day. Most people go to a job for 8-10 hours and zone out doing the same menial task without much thought.
Because in all 3 of those wins they vs'd the best in the world at that time or 2nd best for world final as they were the best. All 3 of those win they faced 1st/2nd best team in the Grand Final. It does not get more legit than that
@@georgbergsten6050 because these teams were not the best in the world at the time or even close. NaVi were not considered the best team or even top 3 during EWC they were literally called fluke major winners, before major they were not considered a top 5, after major they bombed EPL,Dallas and stood no chance vs Spirit in Spring final (grand final).Spirit also were not even top 10 during kato or before kato they were 11th. Vitality have constantly made deep runs before and after these 3 wins. IEM Sydney bomb out is flukey because it was the very first event for cs2 so alot of team got a pass, also their team was dead, magisk and zonic were confirmed leaving before the event.
Both BetBoom Dacha's were basically Mouz v Spirit events - with a surprise Eternal Fire later. Kinda fradulent. Definitely better competition in each than Jönköping tho. And both had surprisingly big prize pools for a lower-key event, so I'm sure the teams do nottttttt care.
hello racist, you should make a video covering all the controversies from counterstrike (ibuypower stuff, gambling sites ect.) and some of the lesser known ones that also had a big impact behind the scenes that ended up changing the landscape of the pro scene. Ii think it would be interesting to hear your overall take on a lot of the big controversies because of you position in the community.
Should help off making this list until after this weekend, ESL Atlanta and IEM RIO. Flyquest winning a trophy against Saw and furia/heroic seated straight into semis after flawless group stage runs.
Legit thought this was just an alternate title for "rating all of Vitality's fraudulent championships on a tier list". But I think we're saving that for a separate video? Dare we Vitality haters dream?
yet they were top 4 coming into the event and made EPL and dallas grand final, major and fall final semis... how is that fraudulent in any way? do you always only expect the top 1 and 2 teams to win? like what
With how Navi won multiple tournaments. 6 consecutive S tier finals... now #1 team in the world. The major turned out to be the least fraudulent one though
"And theyre becoming a team thats hard to hate on"...."they built an international lineup" mouz and faze only orgs that should legally be allowed to have IN lineups
In my opinion, IEM Sydney should be D tier. It’s not FaZe’s fault either, it was just the first tournament of the new game, and it look like absolute cheeks even on LAN
If you had waited 24h u could have included IEM Rio… now that was impressive, considering all the fatigue and the 6 Finals in a row. Not much to hate on it except they lost to Furia kekw and had to make 2 insane comebacks. Solid A-tier?
2:05 You are right Launders. After this Katowice win I thought _'Holy fcking sht! If this team keeps playing like that then we get an...ERA!'_ . But in the subsequent tournaments they lost quarterfinals and semifinals when you know their ceiling is super high. Plus, add peaker advantage so an extreme hater could use this as an argument to weaken the win; it is stupid though since not only donk had that advantage lol. So they can be called fraudulent ever since Katowice but the trophy deserves S Tier because of the dominance they showed.
People back in the day used to watch simple demos and be like oh shit only simple can pull that shit off I won't try to imitate that play style to..... people watching Donk demos thinking yeah I could pull that off.
So you don't understand the game. In the end CS is all about resilience and mental fortitude. It's not over until it's over and you ALWAYS can comeback before opponent hits 13. Round difference is mostly meaningless in the end. And yes I think Navi major was somewhat fluke..but it really doesn't matter that much because they have since demonstrated same kind of level consistently.
Call them fraudulent wins if you want, Launders. But as an NA fan who got into the game because of GamerLegion, both of G2’s big wins this year felt so special to watch. I don’t think anyone can argue this past year of pro CS hasn’t been super entertaining
Faze irrelevant? Excuse me lau. Faze are the unsung heroes of the scene. Once a team beats them in a playoff they realise they can beat anyone. Faze gave their era so we can have an ultra-competitive scene. Put some respect on their name. There have only been 3 events this year where the team that beats Faze doesn't win the whole thing. Beating Faze is the ultimate power up. We saw it with Navi and we saw it with Mouz as they won Rio. (bold prediction - may age badly within 3 hours)
Navi major - g2 with stewie - navi again - this navi - then finally this navi team - worst top 1 yeam in history im not even capping, theyre maybe half of what peak astralis used to be - theyre no where near that level and its visible in like every game / round - theyre way better than i ever thought theyd be with IM however - for a top 1 team - they're trash dog - pretty much any top1 team from the past would clap them except online BIG lol
No fucking way that astralis would have a chance against this Navi, it's an entirely new game with new mechanics like the smokes and movement, and the strategies are way more developed and refined. You just don't know what you're talking about.
Your racism is showing. Navi beating a G2 roster formed two weeks prior, in front of an empty crowd is a fraudulent win. Their other trophies this year is the only thing that stops EWC from being CCT tier. Drop to B-tier.
I used to love you till you hated on my favorite team 🪖, but in reality at the end of the video I really don’t know what’s going to happen between Faze, Mouz, and Vita. Faze specifically i have no idea where to find myself
Somehow G2 went from winning a b05 grand final to bombing out of rio with Niko playing sub 0.6 or something wild
It’s not surprising to me at all. It takes an incredible amount of energy, focus and effort to prepare for a deep tournament run. It’s not easy to continue pushing beyond that. It always surprises me how teams keep chaining tournaments. It’s very draining and they’d probably benefit from skipping a few tournaments for rest and practice.
You know, just G2 things
@@Masheenliterally the same as every other job on the planet then?
crazy what beating a newly formed astralis and some bots does to your confidence - then as soon as you start losing taz blows smoke upo all of your asses saying youre pros and then you get stomped because POLISH GASLIGHTING DSOESNT BEAT ACTUAL STRATS
@@cody6550Not many jobs are consistently traveling and focusing for 12-14 hours a day. Most people go to a job for 8-10 hours and zone out doing the same menial task without much thought.
Brother is hating so bad that he forgot all 3 of vitality trophies
"CS2's Most Racist Wins Tier List" next please
This is my casters getting scammed tier list:
#1: Launders
I love how literally no one remembers that vitality won blast fall finals and world finals at the start of CS2 😂
Cause they're shit and literally play like their monitors are turned off of zywoo doesn't hit 30 bombs each map
yo for real, they also won IEM Cologne just recently
He is the biggest vita + zywooo hater
@ChrisChanSajelan they beat navi in finals in IEM Rio final today.
Flyquest saved from the fraudulent tier list
yeah cus they never won
@@bluestripe289 silly goose
@@bluestripe289 Dont disrespect the dreamhack Atlanta ESL challenger champions
He said S tier events
@@lmgo5960 he listed coL's Jönköping Challenger win tho 🤔
Bro just skipped all Vitality wins for some reason. Including Sydney but not 2023 fall final, world final or even 2024 cologne
How was 2024 cologne a fluke though. They were the favourites and have been top 4 / always playoffs all year long - team of the year last year aswell
Oh nvm I rescind I see what you mean lol. Didn’t realise he was going over every event
Because in all 3 of those wins they vs'd the best in the world at that time or 2nd best for world final as they were the best. All 3 of those win they faced 1st/2nd best team in the Grand Final. It does not get more legit than that
@@killin.479 Why is Spirits katowice, Navis EWC there then?
@@georgbergsten6050 because these teams were not the best in the world at the time or even close. NaVi were not considered the best team or even top 3 during EWC they were literally called fluke major winners, before major they were not considered a top 5, after major they bombed EPL,Dallas and stood no chance vs Spirit in Spring final (grand final).Spirit also were not even top 10 during kato or before kato they were 11th. Vitality have constantly made deep runs before and after these 3 wins. IEM Sydney bomb out is flukey because it was the very first event for cs2 so alot of team got a pass, also their team was dead, magisk and zonic were confirmed leaving before the event.
Bro literally made G2 a category 💀🤣
Maintaining the agenda is priority, keep on hating laundry man
Both BetBoom Dacha's were basically Mouz v Spirit events - with a surprise Eternal Fire later. Kinda fradulent. Definitely better competition in each than Jönköping tho. And both had surprisingly big prize pools for a lower-key event, so I'm sure the teams do nottttttt care.
Wait where's cologne?
He is a launders, what you think happened ?
What's that supposed to mean? Genuinely asking i have no idea lol
@@tomng1126 the cologne tournament
@@tomng1126 launders either hates vitality or thinks all their wins are deserved. The latter is impossible, so he didn't want to talk about Vita.
Cologne is city where the cs2 event took place in. Vitality won that one.
You had me at "man its a lot of hate today, and weve got a little more hate to do". what a chad.
Navi major not fluke after all, it is what it is
hello racist, you should make a video covering all the controversies from counterstrike (ibuypower stuff, gambling sites ect.) and some of the lesser known ones that also had a big impact behind the scenes that ended up changing the landscape of the pro scene. Ii think it would be interesting to hear your overall take on a lot of the big controversies because of you position in the community.
g2 winning against heroic during stockholm was fraudulent
cry nerd
no Cologne?
not fraudulent, not on the list
What about Cologne?
everyone ask about cologne, but ffs, what's more important - where are two bb dachas?????
Should help off making this list until after this weekend, ESL Atlanta and IEM RIO. Flyquest winning a trophy against Saw and furia/heroic seated straight into semis after flawless group stage runs.
Legit thought this was just an alternate title for "rating all of Vitality's fraudulent championships on a tier list". But I think we're saving that for a separate video? Dare we Vitality haters dream?
Cologne was also kind of fradulent, considering Vitality have not won anything this year aside from it
yet they were top 4 coming into the event and made EPL and dallas grand final, major and fall final semis... how is that fraudulent in any way? do you always only expect the top 1 and 2 teams to win? like what
Ur life is too fraudulent xd....
Flyquest Dreamhack ESL Atlanta win is SSS+ tier (NOT fraudulent tier)
Alistair has SAVED not only CS2, but esports in general thank you boys
launders so addicted to hating hes hating on the winners now 😥
1:20 get it up but not finish, damn
Where is cologne this yr and blast fall finals/world finals last yr?do u hate vita so much.....
Imagine forgetting Cologne exists...
With how Navi won multiple tournaments. 6 consecutive S tier finals... now #1 team in the world. The major turned out to be the least fraudulent one though
Crazy how no CS2 major have been rememberable, couldn't even tell you who won what.
there's only been 1 major in cs2 which is probably why
What about NAVI's newest IEM Rio win, how would you rank that?
"And theyre becoming a team thats hard to hate on"...."they built an international lineup"
mouz and faze only orgs that should legally be allowed to have IN lineups
cry about it
In my opinion, IEM Sydney should be D tier. It’s not FaZe’s fault either, it was just the first tournament of the new game, and it look like absolute cheeks even on LAN
If you had waited 24h u could have included IEM Rio… now that was impressive, considering all the fatigue and the 6 Finals in a row. Not much to hate on it except they lost to Furia kekw and had to make 2 insane comebacks. Solid A-tier?
2:05 You are right Launders. After this Katowice win I thought _'Holy fcking sht! If this team keeps playing like that then we get an...ERA!'_ . But in the subsequent tournaments they lost quarterfinals and semifinals when you know their ceiling is super high. Plus, add peaker advantage so an extreme hater could use this as an argument to weaken the win; it is stupid though since not only donk had that advantage lol. So they can be called fraudulent ever since Katowice but the trophy deserves S Tier because of the dominance they showed.
Navi winning copenhagen jL goat above tier IM carrying RIO right now
Navi 3-2 MOUZZZ ez jL clutch
oh, so it's "LEAST" fraudulent tier list
Thanks for that reminder at the end👍
People back in the day used to watch simple demos and be like oh shit only simple can pull that shit off I won't try to imitate that play style to..... people watching Donk demos thinking yeah I could pull that off.
Classic donk glaze
best acezone ad thus far
Launders just reading out loud some HLTV forum threads. great content
Bruh his eras video is literally an hltv addict yapping
This aged well
the major winning team losing more rounds than winning is just pure disrespect to the game, the ultimate fluke
So you don't understand the game. In the end CS is all about resilience and mental fortitude. It's not over until it's over and you ALWAYS can comeback before opponent hits 13. Round difference is mostly meaningless in the end.
And yes I think Navi major was somewhat fluke..but it really doesn't matter that much because they have since demonstrated same kind of level consistently.
@@NzeRekoRecyap yap yap
@@spladoinkk what an insightful reply. Have a great day anyway.
Good content, keep racing
Call them fraudulent wins if you want, Launders. But as an NA fan who got into the game because of GamerLegion, both of G2’s big wins this year felt so special to watch.
I don’t think anyone can argue this past year of pro CS hasn’t been super entertaining
Thoughts on Navis IEM Rio win?
God I hope Acezone didn't pay you very much for that ad read.
Whotality 🥱
Betwhom dacha 🥱
Dreamhack whotlanta 🥱
Whosports Masters 🥱
Who???
why?
Hope Mouz finally win a LAN in rio Today - as they are so young and talented
Who couldve thought vitality was forgotten... the most bland team, its like ur looking at it then go on with ur day not thinking about it again
Faze irrelevant? Excuse me lau. Faze are the unsung heroes of the scene. Once a team beats them in a playoff they realise they can beat anyone. Faze gave their era so we can have an ultra-competitive scene. Put some respect on their name. There have only been 3 events this year where the team that beats Faze doesn't win the whole thing. Beating Faze is the ultimate power up. We saw it with Navi and we saw it with Mouz as they won Rio.
(bold prediction - may age badly within 3 hours)
welp
Well well well
Yeah...
We saw it with navi and we saw it with navi
What about IEM Cologne? A Tier, B Tier???
Hating isn't the answer... it's a question and the answer is yes
We're back to hatemaxxing!! Let's gooooooooooo!!!
Hater? I'm nOt a hater
Hater? You must be mistaken I'm a racist
A G2 win always needs a gimmick
Cologne? Launders god dammit
donkey - s tier 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
very funny
That is a vidéo everyone waited for
Now this is content
is he on galaxy gas?
Navi major - g2 with stewie - navi again - this navi - then finally this navi team - worst top 1 yeam in history im not even capping, theyre maybe half of what peak astralis used to be - theyre no where near that level and its visible in like every game / round - theyre way better than i ever thought theyd be with IM however - for a top 1 team - they're trash dog - pretty much any top1 team from the past would clap them except online BIG lol
Damn its almost a competitive race for the number 1 and not the greatest roster ever competing against nobodies
No fucking way that astralis would have a chance against this Navi, it's an entirely new game with new mechanics like the smokes and movement, and the strategies are way more developed and refined. You just don't know what you're talking about.
how about iem rio?
Fnatic in Kato 2018
Esl one Cologne?
no iem cologne?
IEM Cologne ??
Thank you for bringing even more negativity into my life
Another Launders video, Another discarded opinion 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
Cologne ?
Navi major win is at D tier
Your racism is showing. Navi beating a G2 roster formed two weeks prior, in front of an empty crowd is a fraudulent win. Their other trophies this year is the only thing that stops EWC from being CCT tier. Drop to B-tier.
IEM Rio 2024 NaVi G2 Tier
I was here babyyyy
navi might get another win today haha hope so
Nice hate we love that
too soon
G2 is a category 😂
Navis win in Rio iem top of a tier
UGLY ??!!!???
Man, I love hating.
w content
navi rio win S tier
has to be ur worst one yet
Copenhagen was a fluke
100% it should be in E tier max, 48% win ratio speak for itself
navi hater xd
Hatemaxxxxxxxinnnngg❤
Biggest NaVi hater I have seen lmao
Did you forget Vitality in Cologne or are you extremely biased? You have disappointed me Launders, you fake racist....
They deserve A tier at least
misleading title
Racist
First
CS2 is fraud
racist dog
I used to love you till you hated on my favorite team 🪖, but in reality at the end of the video I really don’t know what’s going to happen between Faze, Mouz, and Vita. Faze specifically i have no idea where to find myself
Cologne?