Another thing that most church drum sets need is new heads - especially on the reso side since most people run the factory reso heads or have food ones, but don't change them for years! Another way to make the snare sound better is get a higher strand snare if the snare bed can fit it. Love the content, and I've followed your mixing tips and it's completely changed our live sound! Still a long way to go, but the foundation it there! We can feel the bass and kick drum, and don't have a bunch of unwanted mud in our mix distracting from worship!
maybe it's just me, listening on a pair of srh840''s, but i feel like the more angled down the mic is I'm hearing more overtone (ring) vs the 45 degree one. and that's what I was always told, the more angled down the more rim sound you'll get vs having it angled toward the center to get more attack less body. again it's probably just me. I've even went as far as having the mic level to the rim of the snare aimed across the head, i guess it would be 0 ish degrees'. but yeah for sure interesting. I love experimenting. great job. It sounds really good.
Yes if you point the mic straight down like that you will get more overtones. This is why people do the 45 degree angle so that less overtones are picked up.
by any chance is there a video coming on where to keep faders at on the console ? ive been engineering in a studio for years , but am new to live sound. i go by "feel" for mixing live but am just curious if there's any "go to" starting points for faders... thank you for all you do ! seriously this channel is the only reason i've survived working live sound for the church im at.
Hey Mitch - great question. Keep doing what you've been doing in the studio. Faders are all about feel. The only "guideline" per se is that if your lead vocal isn't hanging out around 0dB, there is probably an adjustment that needs to be made with gain, or amp levels.
I would say that u get more depth with mic being down than at 45 degrees but it sounds like the 45 would cut tru more and required less EQ just my thoughts 🤷🏾♂️
They're using the Audix drum mic kit (D6 for the kick, D4 and D2 for the toms, and the i5 for the snare). We use the same ones at my church (I'm the drummer so I look at them every week haha!).
Another thing that most church drum sets need is new heads - especially on the reso side since most people run the factory reso heads or have food ones, but don't change them for years! Another way to make the snare sound better is get a higher strand snare if the snare bed can fit it. Love the content, and I've followed your mixing tips and it's completely changed our live sound! Still a long way to go, but the foundation it there! We can feel the bass and kick drum, and don't have a bunch of unwanted mud in our mix distracting from worship!
Great tip. Thanks man!
maybe it's just me, listening on a pair of srh840''s, but i feel like the more angled down the mic is I'm hearing more overtone (ring) vs the 45 degree one. and that's what I was always told, the more angled down the more rim sound you'll get vs having it angled toward the center to get more attack less body. again it's probably just me. I've even went as far as having the mic level to the rim of the snare aimed across the head, i guess it would be 0 ish degrees'. but yeah for sure interesting. I love experimenting. great job. It sounds really good.
Yes if you point the mic straight down like that you will get more overtones. This is why people do the 45 degree angle so that less overtones are picked up.
Love the CMG graphics behind you 😌
CMG is a lifesaver for us small churches that can't have dedicated graphic designers!
I use a josephsons e22 and a unidyne iii 57 capsule to capsule in phase pointed at about 70 degrees. Its sick.
Nice! Thanks for the tip.
by any chance is there a video coming on where to keep faders at on the console ? ive been engineering in a studio for years , but am new to live sound. i go by "feel" for mixing live but am just curious if there's any "go to" starting points for faders... thank you for all you do ! seriously this channel is the only reason i've survived working live sound for the church im at.
Hey Mitch - great question. Keep doing what you've been doing in the studio. Faders are all about feel. The only "guideline" per se is that if your lead vocal isn't hanging out around 0dB, there is probably an adjustment that needs to be made with gain, or amp levels.
When you turn the snares off, I'd recommend shooting for a rack tom range...
Thanks for the tip!
I would say that u get more depth with mic being down than at 45 degrees but it sounds like the 45 would cut tru more and required less EQ just my thoughts 🤷🏾♂️
You make a great point. It all comes down to the sound you are looking for. There really is no "once sized fits all" solution.
What drum mic kit do you use I am looking to upgrade mines
They're using the Audix drum mic kit (D6 for the kick, D4 and D2 for the toms, and the i5 for the snare). We use the same ones at my church (I'm the drummer so I look at them every week haha!).
Benjamin is correct. The Audix mics are great!
I'd love to hear Kade's story some time. Musician turned pastor turned sound tech.
It's been a journey! I'll put it on the project list to create a video telling the story. -Kade
I am ok with the 45 degrees... like that uggly low tones
You make a great point. It all comes down to what sound you are looking for. There is no one-sized-fits-all solution here.
45 degree sounds better to me, I like the fact it sounded like EQ was on it🤷🏾♂️
Based on what he said, I am wondering if he labeled it backwards. The 45 sounded much cleaner.
Take the BSFD off and tune it lower...
We tried it both ways and preferred the higher tuning with BSFD. Snare sound is such a style thing. Everyone is going to prefer something different.