I agree with everything here Jeremy but the main point being The All Stars and the actual star power they once had are gone. No more CMR, no more Buch, no more Rudeen, etc. That fact alone is what brings them into direct competition with FAST, AFCS and even local racing. Now it’s just a wait and see as to what exactly the All Stars are going to become. As much as I say I would love the see the All Stars in Central PA, and we probably will, it just won’t be the same All Stars. That doesn’t offer much for PA now. With what the weekly purses and turnouts are now and as many big unsanctioned races as there were this year, central PA showed it really can support itself.
Not sure what schedule your looking at but the high limit only races five times in Ohio. All Star speedweek was seven races in a row. That's two more the new high limit. Ohio got screwed For Quality Sprint car racing.
Hello those drivers to me are still Allstars even when they got brought out. Just a name change for me. The racing is just as good as under the Allstars banner. Mix in locals and pick and choose Outlaws fills in the car counts. That is how it worked for years. Doesn’t surprise me this move. There has to be more to it when the Allstars got brought out. Time will tell how this will effect all teams in or out of a series. See you tonight on The Turn 2 Terribles Pod tonight Jeremy
i am afraid that we are now going to see weekly racing start to go away to many series causing terrible local shows which no one will go watch. plus prices are getting out of hand to go to a big event
Obviously there's a lot of information missing here. That being said, who's to say the plan isn't to be the top series in that region? That might mean FAST gets pushed aside, but if the AllStars end up being bigger in the end why is that so bad? Shouldn't the series with the biggest amount of resources be the one to lead?
The problem is too many races and money. Not sure how the teams out there are going to be able to run all of those races ... especially with purses not as high as say Central PA. Also, and probably more important, the personalities out there clash. That makes it difficult to co-exist.
@SprintCarUnlimited , The co-exist part is what I'm getting at. Maybe that's not part of the plan. Maybe the plan is simply to be the series in the region and establish itself, at some point, as the top 410 feeder series for HL. If that ecosystem can only support a given amount of races then I don't see it being the AllStars over FAST being a bad thing. Whichever one that can offer the most to teams, tracks, and fans should prevail. It seems like the leadership at FAST felt like they wanted to do things their own way. I can't blame them for that, but it could also mean a direct challenge for dates and drivers. If HL is an example then this 2025 season could just be the very beginning of a much larger plan.
I agree with everything here Jeremy but the main point being The All Stars and the actual star power they once had are gone. No more CMR, no more Buch, no more Rudeen, etc. That fact alone is what brings them into direct competition with FAST, AFCS and even local racing. Now it’s just a wait and see as to what exactly the All Stars are going to become.
As much as I say I would love the see the All Stars in Central PA, and we probably will, it just won’t be the same All Stars. That doesn’t offer much for PA now. With what the weekly purses and turnouts are now and as many big unsanctioned races as there were this year, central PA showed it really can support itself.
You make some good points. Along with you and others we'll have to wait and see
Aaron Fry got shafted IMO.
Not sure what schedule your looking at but the high limit only races five times in Ohio. All Star speedweek was seven races in a row. That's two more the new high limit. Ohio got screwed For Quality Sprint car racing.
Hello those drivers to me are still Allstars even when they got brought out. Just a name change for me. The racing is just as good as under the Allstars banner. Mix in locals and pick and choose Outlaws fills in the car counts. That is how it worked for years. Doesn’t surprise me this move. There has to be more to it when the Allstars got brought out. Time will tell how this will effect all teams in or out of a series. See you tonight on The Turn 2 Terribles Pod tonight Jeremy
i am afraid that we are now going to see weekly racing start to go away to many series causing terrible local shows which no one will go watch. plus prices are getting out of hand to go to a big event
Obviously there's a lot of information missing here. That being said, who's to say the plan isn't to be the top series in that region? That might mean FAST gets pushed aside, but if the AllStars end up being bigger in the end why is that so bad? Shouldn't the series with the biggest amount of resources be the one to lead?
The problem is too many races and money. Not sure how the teams out there are going to be able to run all of those races ... especially with purses not as high as say Central PA. Also, and probably more important, the personalities out there clash. That makes it difficult to co-exist.
@SprintCarUnlimited ,
The co-exist part is what I'm getting at. Maybe that's not part of the plan. Maybe the plan is simply to be the series in the region and establish itself, at some point, as the top 410 feeder series for HL. If that ecosystem can only support a given amount of races then I don't see it being the AllStars over FAST being a bad thing. Whichever one that can offer the most to teams, tracks, and fans should prevail.
It seems like the leadership at FAST felt like they wanted to do things their own way. I can't blame them for that, but it could also mean a direct challenge for dates and drivers. If HL is an example then this 2025 season could just be the very beginning of a much larger plan.