Used Car Bargain: The Peugeot 407 Coupe is Better Than You Think

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
  • CarVertical: The History Checking Service
    Use this link or code "JAYEMM" for a discount!
    www.carvertica...
    Today, the Peugeot 407 Coupe! Taking over from the generally well loved 406 coupe, the 407 got a battering from the motoring press - it wasn't pretty, and they weren't impressed with how it drove. But I reckon they've missed the point.
    Want to see your car on the channel? Email me on talk@jayemm.com
    Not had enough? Check out JAYEMM & FRIENDS! My new channel
    / jayemmandfriends
    **********OUR CHANNEL PARTNERS**********
    Dodo Juice - Award Winning Detailing Products
    Get 10% off Dodo Juice's British Made Detailing Products with code: JAYEMM10
    Shop at www.dodojuice.net
    Charles & Dean - The Funding Specialists
    www.charlesand...
    FIRE SAFETY STICK
    The World's Lightest and Most Compact Fire Extinguisher
    firesafetystic...
    ***********************************************************************************
    Equipment Used:
    Panasonic S1H Camera
    amzn.to/3WXREcV
    Panasonic S5
    amzn.to/3R9C2BJ
    Sennheiser AVX-ME2 Audio Kit
    amzn.to/3kMUVOJ
    Insta360 Action Cameras - GET A FREE ACCESSORY
    www.insta360.c...

Комментарии • 638

  • @James_08_07
    @James_08_07 Год назад +425

    You may not love the comparison, but it is honestly a compliment. These videos take me back to the early days of watching Top Gear repeats on Dave, a simpler and a happier time. Thank you.

    • @ikhoonyejelem2967
      @ikhoonyejelem2967 Год назад +2

      You're welcome

    • @martinmcdonald4207
      @martinmcdonald4207 Год назад +3

      Indeed, lazy afternoons on the couch! Splendid.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Год назад +1

      the guys on topgear did make a point when peugout ,thought that they would be affected by their statement about the show and we could seee the cars not being able to turn like in a slow-motion movie , it was fun

    • @alexjaybrady
      @alexjaybrady Год назад +8

      It only suffers next to the timeless proportions of the 406coupe

  • @petyrkowalski9887
    @petyrkowalski9887 Год назад +309

    I love the fact that you take really interesting “forgotten” cars like this Peugeot and review them. More of the same please. Ps. I have owned several French cars down the years and to keep costs down, always booked service and repairs in France when I went on holiday there.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  Год назад +47

      I am always looking for unusual stuff!

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Год назад +8

      In my country is the most sold brand either than Renault ,or high-end cars from mercedes ,BMW or Toyota. Jaguar didn´t make it because ,when buying a new car one would think ,"Oh, this car must be bad the toyota high-end van is more expensive ", "Agreed my Mazda which is longer cost me more 10.000€", Here the ones who make some money and buy a car because it´s more expensive than it´s neighboor next door new car, and some years ago Jaguar was selling their cars cheap ,in a regular country it would be a reason to sell more cars but here in Portugal people buy the cars if they are more expensive to show to others that they have more money. Some years ago the "S´s" from Mercedes were rare to see ,i had two but when driving a 73 one, people would look and ask if it was the newer model from Mercedes it looked a litle better than the 300D or W123, this in early 80´s . If i dare say that it got a V8 engine, i would be in trouble because "V8´s only in America" . At the time in average Portuguese would have cars under 70 H.p. . Being a second hand car seller as a second source of income i remenber buying cheap a Fiat UNO but it said on the side Panel "70" wich means that the car would have 70 H.P. and it were the first UNO´s that came out ,people were amazed by how much power the car got, in late 80´s i had a Mazda RX-7 bought in the netherlands to a friend of mine was not a 2+2 but a two seat car the finishings seemed years ahead of the 2+2 which was kind of ridiculous ,i had a friend who was always saying to me that he would like to have a Mazda like mine but when i opened my mouth and said it had a 1.3L wankel engine, he would look and say "it´s not possible" and in 87 there was no unleaded fuel in Portugal ,only regular and super but when i opened the door of the gasoline deposit it would say in big letter "only unleaded fuel" because no one knew what unleaded fuel was i used to put super which had more octanes, but "Katalizador, what is that"and by that time there was no inspection on cars only in the 90´s and in 94 i was driving a 74 w114 but bought in germany and it had portuguese plates but from 1983 ,once a roadpatrol asked for my papers and before leting me go the soldier said ,"in two years you have to take it to inspection, this was a very undeveloped country, i had a lot of friends from abroad that in the summer they would come to south Portuguese beaches but to show their kids how their country was 50 years ago . There were giant beaches in the south but Atlantic coast, that one could drive through out the coast and it was rare to see a Portuguese family ,only the ones that were fisherman´s and lived in litle villages by the sea . If a porshe 911 (which was rare)apeared people would say "it as a VW engine" ,a kid that his father had lot´s of money when studying and 18 he took his driver permit and his father bought him a porshe 900 and something that had a big sticker in the back in orange saying 80 in black that meant that one in his first year of driver´s permit couldn´t drive above 80 km´s hour and everyday in school people would make fun of him ,first a porshe that could drive faster than 80 km/h thahn the engine sound "it´s a VW engine" .The main car of an agriculture worker and owner of the lands was a 504 from Peugeot, mainly diesel engines but some had the 2.0L engine but some also had the 404 or the 504 sport coupé or convertible wich is rare today, a Pininfarina car

    • @weeevilswine
      @weeevilswine Год назад +1

      What’s the reason for getting it serviced in France? Better service?

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Год назад +1

      @@weeevilswine cheaper

  • @PKDionysus
    @PKDionysus Год назад +23

    I've owned a 3.0 v6 Coupe for the past 5 years, and put around 70k+ km on the clock, and have loved every single kilometer. It is supremely comfortable, surprisingly engaging to drive, and once I familiarised myself with all its quirks and isms, it became an absolute blast to drive somewhat aggressively. Aerodynamically, this thing is amazing. On even the slightest of hills/declines, it picks up speed surprisingly quickly, and you can almost feel it slicing its way through the air. I've driven in excess of 1000km in a trip more than once, with a break or two, and owing to how insulated the cabin in, I arrived home without any aches, pains or major fatigue - it was incredible.
    The frameless doors however do result in wind noise being something of an issue, and the petrol engine could do with 20nm more of torque, but other than that, I love it. It has been my daily for 5 years, and whilst it does love a drink in the city (I live in a small town, in which intersections are so frequent, you may as well give up on driving economically) but I have managed to get 780km on a single tank, with city and highway driving. Considering how the car has a 67l tank, with quoted figures of 10l/100km combined, I actually did pretty well. Running costs have been pretty decent, and I have gotten away with doing 3 major services, and a single minor service in the 70k km. Fuel costs have been a different story, but with the enjoyment I derive from driving the car, I really don't care. The satnav doesn't work, but that's only because the South African government did not purchase the map rights, so the stock head unit never had nav - a discovery that tore me in half because other than a million buttons, in dash navigation was what I adored about the 407.
    The 407 Coupe has been my favourite since I saw one in 2006, as my brother drove me home from school, and we saw a silver one driving up the road. I fell in love the moment I saw that long nose, and 12 years later when I was walking through town, I saw the one I currently own on the dealer lot, staring at her. It felt like her headlights followed me - like a pair of eyes - and I fell in love. I kept looking back to see if she still there as I walked along the road, and just knew that I had to have her. Fast forward a few weeks, and as I sat in the driver's seat for the first time as her owner, I wrapped my hands around the steering wheel and wept. It was a moment I will never forget, not least because two minutes later, I crashed into the gate of my building's underground lot as I drove out.
    Anyway, this wasn't supposed to be nearly as long as it turned out to be. What I actually wanted to say was, Peugeot's get a bad rap from everybody and their dog, but honestly, there really are some diamonds in the Peugeot lineup, and the 407 Coupe is certainly one of them.
    Cheers.

  • @MrR2185
    @MrR2185 Год назад +111

    As an American visiting Germany a few years ago, we rented a black 407, in 4 door sedan flavor. Two things stuck out, the ride quality and the general feeling of heaviness. Closing the doors felt like closing a bank vault door. You could feel how heavy and planted it was on the road. It just felt really solid for a "non-luxury" car like a Mercedes or the like. The ride quality was this awesome balance of firm and poised but also soft and compliant. Having driven many regular brand cars from the US and Japan, from Ford Fusions, Mazda 6 and Toyota Camry...the 6 being my favorite.... I can say this French car really left a positive impression on me and makes me wish we could get them in the states.

    • @DiegoRuiz1991
      @DiegoRuiz1991 Год назад +10

      PSA has tried for decades to offer their vehicles to selected dealers in the USA... but the low power numbers, while more than enough for legal speeds, are frowned upon in North America

    • @Obi-Wan___99
      @Obi-Wan___99 Год назад +2

      Yes. Nice cars french guys do. I have a Citroen C4 coupe that is so special. May the Force be with you

    • @jonnywalker3208
      @jonnywalker3208 Год назад

      Any sentence that starts with "as an American" ... you know there's nothing worth reading afterwards.
      🇺🇸 = 💩

    • @MrR2185
      @MrR2185 Год назад +5

      @@jonnywalker3208 Well, 54 people liked what I said....and you came at me with hostility which makes your comment completely useless. Like a child eating glue stumbling into a room of adults having a conversation and saying "I like turtles".....but it's ok, son, be proud of your contributions, for it is all you're capable of.

    • @MrR2185
      @MrR2185 Год назад +3

      @@DiegoRuiz1991 That is too bad. The car was not "fast" but it had respectable torque when we went into the mountains in southern Germany.

  • @johnball4826
    @johnball4826 Год назад +141

    I had the 406 Pininfarina 3.0 V6 coupe. It was a far better looking car. Fast and surprisingly economical. I kept it for 12 years and the only fault was a coil pack, easily replaced. Everything was standard, no extras to pay for - heated leather seats, sat nav, auto box.
    Beautiful metallic pale blue with tan leather seats.

    • @petyrkowalski9887
      @petyrkowalski9887 Год назад +11

      They are lovely cars…beautifully styled

    • @AxLWake
      @AxLWake Год назад +22

      Yes, the 406 Coupé was the better looking car, for sure. Very elegant yet sporty.
      I love Pininfarina's design from the 90's and early 00's.

    • @speak_your_truth.
      @speak_your_truth. Год назад +9

      Yes, they are lovely. Bit of ferrari about their graceful lines. That's pinnfarina for you 🙂

    • @bensmithkent22
      @bensmithkent22 Год назад +7

      Jesus that segment had some lookers at the time e46 c70 406 coupe. Even the original clk. Shame alfa hadnt made a 156 coupe just imagine 😮

    • @AxLWake
      @AxLWake Год назад +5

      @@bensmithkent22 Well, they did. Kind of. The Alfa GT was build on the 156 plateforme. Even if they did not look that similar.

  • @juusosimola8600
    @juusosimola8600 Год назад +63

    I don't comment much on videos, but now I just have to. Having owned one of these for about a year and a half now, I can say that you put my thoughts into words so well! Your observations from the slightly diesel sounding idle and the somewhat strange looks to the ride quality are spot on. When I tell people that the ride is comparable to some much higher end cars they look at me like I'm insane. Peugeot really nailed the chassis on these, it's firmer than the saloons but not umcomfortable and gets better the faster you go, up to a point of course. For the money I can't think of a better car. It's nice to see someone else also "gets" this car. Keep up the great work with the channel!

    • @Anrirua
      @Anrirua Год назад +4

      The idle noise is the hydraulic lifters. As it warms up, it purrs. That noise worried me initially but I miss my Coupe a lot.

  • @Bumper3D
    @Bumper3D Год назад +12

    My friend has had a 407 saloon with the 2-litre petrol engine for over 15 years now and he has no intention of replacing it anytime soon. I've been servicing it for the last 10 years and the thing has been nearly faultless. It's never had any major electrical problems or anything go wrong with the powertrain. The front suspension "swivel joints", a tie rod end and droplink every now and then, rear brake calipers, the power steering pump and the center display screen have been the only things I recall replacing other than regular service items. It is a quiet and reliable workhorse even at 350k kilometers, a way better car than people give it credit for.

  • @billwild673
    @billwild673 10 месяцев назад +6

    I used to own a 407 coupe (the 2.7 V6 diesel) and it was a great car. I had it for about 5 years and loved it. It's not a sports car, but think of it as a grand tourer and you won't be disappointed.

  • @Gorbyrev
    @Gorbyrev Год назад +8

    This is why I love this channel. Owner of an F12 is literate about the wonders of a old Pug barge. Brilliant.

  • @frenchbred2081
    @frenchbred2081 Год назад +17

    I have 3 of the extremely rare (only 51 sold in the uk) run out 3.0 hdi 407 coupes. Such an awesome car and with 310 bhp they fly. Electronic dampers, double glazed windows, these coupes are so refined and smooth. I achieve 40-50mpg on a run even with the weight and high power output. I bought my first one to replace my Range Rover sport and it’s miles better. I also have several of the much prettier v6 406 coupes but the 407 is actually a much improved car over the 406. Don’t get me wrong the 406 is brilliant, it goes well, looks and rides superb but the 407 is in a league above for refinement and comfort. Don’t compare the 407 to the 407 coupe it’s a totally different car, just enjoy it for what it is. Very underrated and also very reliable when looked after properly. The 407 coupe was also built on a slower moving production line to aid build quality and fit and finish. It shows as mine have not a single rattle or creak in 13 years.

    • @tastypymp1287
      @tastypymp1287 Год назад +1

      Rubbish, these are riddled in faults, especially electronics.
      Your dash is a Christmas tree!!

    • @tastypymp1287
      @tastypymp1287 Год назад

      'Underrated'
      Web speak, yuck.

    • @tastypymp1287
      @tastypymp1287 Год назад +2

      The 407 and 407 coupe is not 'a totally different car' that's empirically false.
      These cars are rubbish.

    • @tastypymp1287
      @tastypymp1287 Год назад

      He needs 3 to keep one of them going....

    • @BlueHopi144
      @BlueHopi144 Год назад +5

      @@tastypymp1287 try again when u get sobered up from the W-E

  • @maxmannonen8170
    @maxmannonen8170 Год назад +9

    James deserves more subs, try to get this beast of a man to 300k this year!!

  • @mimaz7155
    @mimaz7155 Год назад +3

    I love Peugeot, when I was young, my dad had a 504 and he loved it so much

  • @fairybuddy-angel2035
    @fairybuddy-angel2035 Год назад +7

    French cars always did, and still do, look so much better than all the other metal boxes bouncing around out there. Better built and performing than many would claim too. Loving current Peugeot and Citroen and DS. Renault on a roll too. Allez.

    • @ertebelj
      @ertebelj 6 месяцев назад +1

      Renault doesn’t get to recieve praise. But PSA is What makes a french car Good

  • @retrooutput
    @retrooutput 9 месяцев назад +4

    I know many people hate French cars through their own experiences or Top Gear telling them such, but there are some absolute shining lights in Peugeot's history, this being one along with the 406 Coupe, 306, 106 of course the 205 and even really the 206 - each of them had a decent top end model which I've been lucky enough to own most.
    I'm putting a rare gold 2.2 HDI 406 Coupe back on the road at the moment, but if that doesn't work out, I'll be seeking out a 407 Coupe I think!

    • @mickd94
      @mickd94 4 месяца назад +2

      It'll not disappoint you!

  • @snoopy10411
    @snoopy10411 Год назад +2

    Thanks for making me feel old. I'm. Only 42 and I can vividly remember the 406 coming out like it was yesterday, let alone the 407. My dad had a 405 for most of my childhood

  • @arekb5951
    @arekb5951 Год назад +36

    My biggest surprise with this car was the fact that the suspension on these is pretty much bulletproof even though it's quite complex. The roads were pretty bad where I live until very recently and this Pug took them like a champ for years, whereas the competitive multilink solution in VW/Audi cars from the era would report its dissatisfaction with the roads quality (by knocking audibly) every year or two .

    • @FuelPoverty
      @FuelPoverty Год назад +2

      I've owned a 2.2 Hdi diesel SW GT from new, 15 years old next week, 120k, It still rides like new, although the lower ball joints do fail fairly quickly, mine is on it's second set, I also own a 2016 508, which does not have the double wishbones of the 407, the difference is like night and day, fidgety and crashy on anything but a good road. If I had to choose just one, it would be the 407. The 407 is "white gold". Apparently a colour that only I, in the entire world, likes.

    • @vinkobilandzic22
      @vinkobilandzic22 Год назад

      I own a Peugeot 407 2.0 hdi and it's the worst piece of shit i have ever driven. Front suspension is like paper, i can change something every 3 months.
      Only the engine on these cars is good, everything else is a french piece of shit

    • @gtheskater
      @gtheskater Год назад

      @@FuelPoverty my dad has a light gold old mercedes c190. It grew on me and i quite enjoy it now

  • @seanmichaelp724
    @seanmichaelp724 Год назад +5

    JayEmm is literally the easiest car youtuber to watch. Great content that highlights some absolutely terrific hidden gems.

  • @theodor12
    @theodor12 Год назад +7

    I saw a dark blue metallic 407 coupe with white leather seats last year. I must admit it's a good looking thing.

  • @deaks25
    @deaks25 Год назад +71

    I've got a big soft spot for the Peugeot coupes. The 406 is still a looker, the 407 is not quite as good looking but still distinctive and has grown on me over the years and the RCZ after it's facelift is a lovely looking car. Engines are mostly 'meh' but honestly, if I needed a cheap but stylish car, a Peugeot coupe would be on the shortlist somewhere.

    • @Rinanathar
      @Rinanathar Год назад +2

      I had a blue 406 coupe for 17 years. Loved it.

    • @cologne2792
      @cologne2792 Год назад +1

      @@Rinanathar I've had a blue 406 coupe for 5 years. It's been great fun but it's now not sure if it's Italian or French. Rust in the rear three quarters, electrical issues, random limp mode and bits of trim falling off. Still gorgeous though.

    • @Rinanathar
      @Rinanathar Год назад +2

      @@cologne2792 I had 5 th gear die on me window and windscreen motors fail but that was it. 230000 miles. A beautiful but tired girl. You’re right about French Italian identities. :) 👍👍

    • @ianfrost3529
      @ianfrost3529 Год назад +3

      My uncle as a 2.7hdi automatic.
      He had it about 10 years and it’s done nearly 200000miles and it’s been no less reliable than any other brand.
      My uncle has said about selling it but like he said there is no point as it isn’t worth anything but it’s reliable and he likes it.

    • @MrChimpeh
      @MrChimpeh Год назад +2

      RCZ really needed the 3.0 & RWD

  • @Nile9063
    @Nile9063 Год назад +12

    I once dreamed of a 406 coupe as my first car, but I didn't end up getting one. Sadly. The 406 coupe was incredibly beautiful.

    • @gintas830
      @gintas830 10 месяцев назад +1

      this is the reason I have this 406 coupe with a v6 engine now :)

    • @defallko3905
      @defallko3905 9 месяцев назад

      on my way to inspect mine :)@@gintas830

  • @Abrvpt
    @Abrvpt Год назад +2

    Leaving a bad BMW 118i with engine problems, I went on the hunt for a sensible car with less kilometers, a low price but still having at least a 2.0 petrol. Found myself buying a 407, I did considered the coupé but being heavier and slightly more expensive, I kept to my goal of being sensible and got the sedan. This video makes me regret my choice a bit !
    I still miss the BMW for its rear wheel drive balance, but to be fair i'm having good fun on twisty country roads with the 407. Give the rear tires a bit too much pressure and you can even loose the rear on the wet !

  • @TheJustaviewman
    @TheJustaviewman Год назад +4

    I like the 407 coupe, it's tres bon.

  • @BkSMedia
    @BkSMedia Год назад +5

    a friend of mines had a black 407 Coupe with the 3.0l V6 and man what a car that was. Rode beautiful, had a wonderful induction noise and the seats really do hug you!!

  • @coldvaper
    @coldvaper Год назад +6

    being in America I always like watching videos like yours about vehicles that I didn't even know existed. It also makes me jealous sometimes...lol

  • @4UPedran
    @4UPedran Год назад +2

    This video almost made me cry. I have a 1.6 hdi 407 sw and i absolutely love my wagon. But everyone makes fun and jokes about how bad the 407 is. This is video made me very happy. The 407 coupe is beautiful and it has some great features! Amazing video and thank you.

    • @calinbiris47
      @calinbiris47 2 месяца назад

      407 is not bad, is terrible

  • @Lukesummers94
    @Lukesummers94 Год назад +6

    From a pure looks perspective i'll always liked how these look as an estate

  • @Taylor40667
    @Taylor40667 Год назад +3

    This is why I love this channel 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
    Its a old top gear in the present day

  • @jakublulek3261
    @jakublulek3261 Год назад +4

    For some reason, I really like 407 Coupé, how it looks and drives, especially with 3.0V6 petrol. It is smooth, quiet, comfortable and classy. Something almost Jaguar-ish about it. But they are very rare, especially with my preferred petrol V6.

  • @specialboye4910
    @specialboye4910 Год назад +3

    11:45 Location : satisfactory
    Made me giggle that did, if you go through a bad area does it change??

  • @Oii_dave
    @Oii_dave Год назад +3

    Brilliant content again , Really enjoy these on my lunch hour at work !

  • @HairpinMagazine
    @HairpinMagazine Год назад +3

    I drove 407 SW 2.0 diesel for 9 years, and was quite pleased with it. Top mileage, lots of trunk space, fairly reliable. It had the notorious air vent claps failure and the screen was faulty. The replacement screen was dirt cheap, air vents not so much. Today I drive C5 3.0 HDI biturbo (you mentioned that engine in this video), and this engine is a joy to drive. Not the fastest from the start, but it has some power when it starts to move. I believe that a 407 coupe with that engine would be a serious intercontinental transporter :-)

  • @tristanfletcher
    @tristanfletcher Год назад +6

    Any time I see one of these I think "wonder what those are like"? Wonder no more!
    Edit: Thank you, Michaels brother.

  • @fasthracing
    @fasthracing Год назад +7

    Had a new 1997 406 Coupe. It was a decent thing.

  • @mickd94
    @mickd94 Год назад +4

    Great meeting you James, glad you enjoyed the car!

    • @James_08_07
      @James_08_07 Год назад +2

      Nice job with the tyre dressing!

    • @mickd94
      @mickd94 Год назад +2

      ​@James_08_07 its not bad for a car park detail! Haha

    • @brianiswrong
      @brianiswrong Год назад +2

      Thank you for letting james show and drive it for us.
      Loving the leather colour, and my works 2019 berlongo van (which iam sat in) has the same lindicator/ light stalk👍

    • @mickd94
      @mickd94 Год назад +1

      @bryan yes, it reminds me of my Peugeot 206 I had as a first car! Leagues above that though in terms of build quality and reliability

  • @robsmall6466
    @robsmall6466 Год назад +4

    Think these have aged quite well. Used to be relatively common ( in silver ) but a rare sight now

  • @dougmoodie8713
    @dougmoodie8713 10 месяцев назад +1

    Fell in love with the 407sw soon as I saw it, just looked so different and sleek. I have a 2010 sw sport and won’t part with it till it dies, just love it ❤

  • @ImReqularr
    @ImReqularr Год назад +16

    I own the 2.7 diesel model. Absolute grand tourer! Very smooth on the highway but stable during curves due to the active suspension.

    • @Keyynann
      @Keyynann Год назад +4

      Ha! same here. I also have the 2.7 HDI with active suspension but the SW, I love every mile I drive in that car!

    • @raula.c4771
      @raula.c4771 Год назад

      I also have a 2.7 HDI coupe and it is very comfortable to drive and to make long trips, the thermostat box failed me once but everything is fine, it already has 167,000 kilometers.

    • @kevinalisi
      @kevinalisi Год назад

      Hi Raul have u with car any problems?

    • @kevinalisi
      @kevinalisi Год назад

      @@raula.c4771 Are you satisfied with the car, would you recommend it?

    • @kevinalisi
      @kevinalisi Год назад

      @@raula.c4771 hmm ok. thanks

  • @katzicael
    @katzicael Год назад +4

    I always love the look of the 407 Coupe, that and the 308 RCZ which was gorgeous.

  • @DavidDatura
    @DavidDatura Год назад +11

    What about the Peugeot 406 Coupé from the late 90s early 2000s? One of the most beautiful designs ever put into production and still is, affordable too! Nobody ever talks about that underrated gem. Have they all rusted away or something? 🤷‍♂️

    • @tastypymp1287
      @tastypymp1287 Год назад +1

      Er no.
      A nice example of Pininfarina design but 'one of the most beautiful designs ever put into production' is a deeply absurd and false statement.

    • @davidevans4089
      @davidevans4089 Год назад +1

      I agree.

    • @rattymcclelland
      @rattymcclelland Год назад +3

      @@tastypymp1287 each to their own opinion of course. The 406 coupe is stunning, easily one of the best. Although my opinion is skewed with nostalgia as my Dad was on the the first to get a Tucanae green 406 coupe back in early 97.

    • @PinkGuy120
      @PinkGuy120 Год назад

      This is a video on a 407 Coupe in case you missed it

    • @tastypymp1287
      @tastypymp1287 Год назад

      @Pink Guy Yeah but their inner narc needs to make it about them.

  • @lucabeckr
    @lucabeckr Год назад +3

    I genuinely think this and the 406 coupe built by Pininfarina are one of the most beautiful mid-class coupes ever built.
    Another rare coupe of this sort is the Renault Laguna Coupe which could also make an interesting video.

  • @AxLWake
    @AxLWake Год назад +2

    It's a cool car I guess but I've always thought the design was a let down in comparison to the previous model. The 406 coupé was much more elegant (designed by Pinifarina, with lines similar to Ferrari's of the time).

  • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
    @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X Год назад +36

    The pre-facelift Peugeot 406 Coupe has always been a favourite of mine. It's a shame one cannot find a single example in proper condition.

    • @frenchbred2081
      @frenchbred2081 Год назад +15

      It’s probably because I have them all! 8 of them all in mint condition stored away.,!

    • @BenjiB-
      @BenjiB- Год назад +1

      @@frenchbred2081 really? I can’t tell if you are joking

    • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
      @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X Год назад

      @@frenchbred2081
      Lucky you ;) !

    • @frenchbred2081
      @frenchbred2081 Год назад +9

      @@BenjiB- it’s not a joke. I have 50 cars in the collection, 8 of which are 406 v6 coupes.

    • @DavidDatura
      @DavidDatura Год назад +3

      Why are they so rare and hard to find in good condition? One of my personal favorite (affordable) car designs ever.

  • @Rouxenator
    @Rouxenator Год назад +2

    YES!!!! I love it. Had one exactly like that myself. They are awesome and I would buy another any day. Rear seat access is very easy since the front seats move forward electrically. Just don't fit a knock-off Chinese A/C pump - it totalled mine after 3 years.

    • @khalidacosta7133
      @khalidacosta7133 Год назад

      How did the AC pump total your car? Belt went into the cambelt?

  • @Emppu_T.
    @Emppu_T. Год назад +2

    You have me contemplating on becoming a Peugeot driver.

  • @james-ok4nl
    @james-ok4nl Год назад +1

    I have a 307 cc 2.0 hdi and I love it, I think it looks really smart, no problems at all in over 4 years

    • @PhyrexJ
      @PhyrexJ Месяц назад

      My dad bought a new 2.0 hdi station 307, brought it at 450.000 km without any trouble

  • @mheijne2
    @mheijne2 Год назад +1

    Own a 407 coupe V6 automatic. Comfortabele, fast and very reliable. Also black with red leather. Love it to bits

  • @benfica2677
    @benfica2677 Год назад +1

    I've owned the 2.7 hdi for 6 year's. Amazing engine,comfort and luxury for the price. Since i couldn't afford the A5

  • @indiefferential2856
    @indiefferential2856 Год назад +1

    Early 2000s vibes. Great work!

  • @HirooKoslov
    @HirooKoslov Год назад +2

    That burgundy leather is wonderful, if only my 308 GTi had upholstry that nice..

  • @posniknelb6114
    @posniknelb6114 Год назад +3

    3.0 v6 Twin turbo diesel coupe is an Very rare car in this country. Couldn't find one at the time I was looking.

    • @frenchbred2081
      @frenchbred2081 Год назад +1

      I have got 3 , cornered the market!

    • @posniknelb6114
      @posniknelb6114 Год назад +2

      😂 now I know why. That was the deal breaker for me. Didn't fancy the 2.7

    • @frenchbred2081
      @frenchbred2081 Год назад +1

      @@posniknelb6114 indeed. They do come up for sale rarely and with only 51 sold in the uk 13 years ago there are even less about now. What did you buy in the end?

    • @posniknelb6114
      @posniknelb6114 Год назад +2

      Audi a5 3.0tdi coupe

  • @GabrielSTEFAN943
    @GabrielSTEFAN943 Год назад +2

    Just saw that the sedan pulled 1.0g at Brands Hatch on the occassion of Autocar's 2004 for Britain's Best Driver's Car. However, you've got to drive a 3.0 petrol version. They all come with an adaptive suspension (with around 17 stages of stiffness that can change every 22 ms and a sport mode to have it stiffer all the time), a variable steering (hydraulic, not electrohydraulic like the one you drove) and a valved exhaust (it even does pops). The engine's not the quickest, but it makes an incredible noise inside, much more special than an Alfa V6 of that time and if it's not a coupe it only comes with a 6 speed auto that was also fitted to the Mini Cooper S or the BMW i8. If it's a bit wet, it throws the back around very easily. My dad has a 3.0 petrol SW from new and it's just surprising to see what a special car it is. BTW, the mk1 508 was also a 407 underneath, but with double wishbone fitted only to the top GT spec. Anyway, thanks a lot for the review, it makes me giggle to have someone like you say good things about the car.

  • @jamesonslow
    @jamesonslow Год назад +7

    Nice, fair review on an underrated noughties car. I daily drive a flame red 307 1.6 HDi Sport. It gets probably way more love and attention than most 307s, e.g. decent Michelin tyres. On a good day (i.e. between minor, usually cheap to fix niggles), it is a very good thing for a motorway cruise, easy trip into town or B-road raz. A light remap has given it sufficient punch and still average 60mpg. A second hand bargain 5 years and 70k miles ago... no regrets.

  • @Anrirua
    @Anrirua Год назад +1

    Love it. Well done.
    Did a lot of research on a superb used beast before I bought one of these, 7 years old, for 4k euros. Got a 2.2 petrol sv. No other car came close at that price. Totally misunderstood car and the 2.2 petrol is actually the best of the range. Easy to live with. Less hassle than the diesels, dirt cheap as people fear petrol (40mpg on long spins at 60) and when converted to lpg as I did (Prins), turned a 140 mile 5 day a week commute into fun. Very wide, very assured, very hard on front suspension, very very gamey in 3rd gear and not too bad on tyres at all.
    Brought mine from 70k to 150k miles before head gasket issues (lpg runs HOT and dry).
    One of the finest cars Ive ever owned, for bargain money. Very reliable and not a mere 407. Extremely well scrwed together. Separate factory and production line.
    235/45/18s Hankooks, about €600 all round. Can work on 225 also, if you're tight.

  • @Spheredalai
    @Spheredalai Год назад +1

    this video explains why i am convinced James has the BEST shots and camera setups in all of his videos, because he is a film school graduate! good to know!

  • @MrManniG
    @MrManniG Год назад +1

    As a driver of a now ten year old 207SW:
    Buying that car must have been one of the best ideas I had. I now have that car for 6 of those years in that that time i had to replace (exept for regular service): the electronic cluch of the AC. and thats it.
    I get charged for a hatchback whilst driving a station wagon that did put on two occasions my dad's passat to shame.

  • @jamescoe764
    @jamescoe764 Год назад +3

    Really good review James. It's a car I would never have considered test driving but maybe I would now

  • @PenryMMJ
    @PenryMMJ Год назад +2

    The looks do let it down a bit compared to previous Peugeot coupes, but at current prices they are tempting.

  • @ilkkalanger9416
    @ilkkalanger9416 Год назад +2

    Please Please find a decent 607 with the 2.2 Petrol and you will find out that it is a car even less appreciated and known even among Peugeot Connaisseurs. Just an oddball with a huge boot, plenty of room, excellent handling in town (the turning circle is smaller than you would expect) and fun on twisty country roads. I own a 607 and also a 2.2 petrol 406 Coupé. I will probably keep them for ever 🤩

  • @jjharson7344
    @jjharson7344 Год назад +3

    That seems like a really decent car to be fair.... loved your review of it, great stuff and top notch reporting on it too...

  • @orion2901
    @orion2901 Год назад +4

    These are pretty much the same thoughts I have about the laguna coupe. Loved that thing 👍

    • @benjaminvolant3083
      @benjaminvolant3083 Год назад +3

      I never understood why the Laguna coupe never sold more. It was a very nice looking car when it came out. It has aged a bit now, but whenever I see one on the roads, I always kind of fancy driving one.

    • @orion2901
      @orion2901 Год назад

      @@benjaminvolant3083 drove one up until recently, it was a lovely car!

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Год назад

      @@benjaminvolant3083 i never heard of a laguna coupé ,it´s the first time i´m reading that exists one, only knew the megane coupé wich was a nice car , a cousin of mine has one and the plastic parts on the dash are just breaking just by toutching them

  • @SteaveBg
    @SteaveBg Год назад +1

    I own 2.2 coupes and it's a nice car with a bit of a luxury feeling. The main problems are front suspension and sensors falts. For the price is a fantastic value

  • @Bercilakdehautdesert-yt1gd
    @Bercilakdehautdesert-yt1gd 6 месяцев назад +1

    Until my two lads turned into six footers (five years ago) we ran a pair of these as family cars, with an MG Midget for fun. They were both black, 2.2 petrols, one cloth, one leather interior. I preferred the cloth as it gripped far better. The suspension was sublime with double wishbone front and indie rear, a very pretty aluminium structure if that's what floats your boat.
    I liked the double glazing, I liked the solid feel, the fuel economy and the power delivery, and the cheap parts. I wasn't fond of the looks, but you don't have to look at it from the inside. We took ours to the South of France and set off numerous speed cameras (never received any fines :-) ) and perhaps the best bit was both cost less than £2k.
    The only downside is the lack of rear headroom. Shame, they were brill and I will get another at some point.

  • @dunnockdan
    @dunnockdan Год назад +1

    Aged very well this car, look at the "gawwwping" front ends we have nowadays.

  • @MM-00777
    @MM-00777 4 месяца назад

    Good you do an honest review of a Peugeot. If it was a certain programme, they would have slagged it off from the start-only because they can afford better. I have owned a 407 SW and 7 other Peugeots which have been very reliable, despite what they say. I changed from a BMW X5 which i lost 12k in 2 yrs! The 407 SW i bought, lost 3 k in 4 yrs approx....and did a great job for my family. Granted some of the smaller engine ones are not great, but if you get a bigger engine and service it-it will serve you well with only minor problems which all cars get.

  • @jaybruce593
    @jaybruce593 Год назад +1

    I ran one of these, with the 2.7v6 diesel for a few years, they are a great car, massively under rated.

  • @thecreedy
    @thecreedy Год назад +1

    Speaking of French cars. A Citroën C6 overtook my coach on the M4 today. C6GCT was the reg. Haven't seen one in years and thats more French than the French themselves lol.

  • @echatz
    @echatz Год назад +4

    I remember seeing one in a self serve wreckers here in AU. My heart sunk. It was black, 2.9 V6. I see many 407s, yet this was better built, closer to my 607 (same cluster as well). They are definitely underated.
    I may have to pick a bone with you! I think I may have to buy one!
    Thank you for the great review, stay awesome!

  • @Salpeteroxid
    @Salpeteroxid Год назад +1

    I think this car is beautiful. Would love to replace my second car (Mercedes W203 with the M272, it may be a sport edition but with a manual gearbox you can't really enjoy it because of the massive weight of the flywheel) with this Peugeot.

  • @Kryptic1046
    @Kryptic1046 Год назад +1

    I like the way it looks. Maybe it's just because I'm from the States but I think it's cool and it's different than anything we have over here. The interior looks good too. I would drive one of those, especially at those used prices.

  • @brianhall3770
    @brianhall3770 Год назад

    Bought a mint condition 2006 407 Coupe 2.2 petrol with 37000 miles 18 months ago and I love it, best £3000 I have ever spent.

  • @onelyone6976
    @onelyone6976 Год назад +1

    Once it became clearer that I needed a car eventually, but didn’t really know how much I’d be able to spend I found one these 407 coupé’s for sale, it had pretty much indetical specs, other than it had the 2.9 petrol V6. They wanted 6k€ for it and I had nowhere near enough money for it so I was just dreaming but nevertheless. I ended up purchasing just a mundane mk2 Megane for 1300€ over a year later.
    Speaking of french coupé’s, I would absolutely love to see a laguna mk3 coupé on the channel, they look so good. One of the best looking cars at the time IMO.

  • @TheHuskyGT
    @TheHuskyGT 3 месяца назад +1

    The car is absolutely gorgeous inside out, like the old 406. But I will never understand why they come with such small underpowered engines. You would think these would come with a 3.5 or bigger 6 cylinder that could move the car a lot easier, plus make it sound better as well.

  • @johnshaw359
    @johnshaw359 Год назад +1

    Twas a time when Peugeot were known for outstanding handling and quick gearboxes, they lost the plot post the Pininfarina era somewhere.

  • @ThunderChunky101
    @ThunderChunky101 Год назад +1

    The 406 really was a very good looking car.
    Very, very good looking.
    Time to revisit?
    I had one for about a week once, the Pininfarina coupe with a 3l engine. It was surprisingly slow though, sold it for more than I'd bought it a week later.

  • @crowdpleaser1036
    @crowdpleaser1036 Год назад +1

    I had a 407 coupe 2.7 diesel GT auto coupe on a 56 plate which I bought as a natural successor to a 3.0 V6 auto 406 coupe. I absolutely loved it & kept it until 2018 when the combination of ULEZ & £450 a year road tax did for it. I replaced it with a VW cc which despite being a GT R Line was nowhere near as well equipped (no electric seats or folding mirrors) nor quite as much fun to drive. I passed on the first generation 508 but now have a 2020 (70) new generation 508 petrol hybrid. I'm not sure that I like it quite as much, it has a great spec but the fuel storage penalty I pay for the sake of having a battery that costs about £4.50 to put a full charge on & then returns about 15 miles on a good day is of questionable logic.

  • @XxXnonameAsDXxX
    @XxXnonameAsDXxX Год назад +1

    This coupe, if specced all out makes an extremely compelling grand tourer with the 2.0 hdi engine for two people.

  • @kisielthe1st
    @kisielthe1st Год назад +1

    My first car was a 407SW as well. Unfortunately a drunk driver crashed into me head on. Me and my passanger walked away only with bruises from the seatbelts. The other guy died on the spot. Props for safety.
    The most comfortable leather seats I ever sat in a car. None of that side-holding sh*t. Just a comfortable, squeaky, cushioned thick-leather couch.

  • @goose4150
    @goose4150 Год назад +1

    This particular color combo, interior and exterior, really does justice to this car. It still isn't as pretty as a 406 coupé but honestly few Peugeots are. It's a handsome car nevertheless, particularly in V6 form

  • @wainerollins2587
    @wainerollins2587 Год назад +4

    I used to own one of these 407 coupes.
    I can honestly say it's one of the best engineered cars for the price I have ever owned.
    It was built like a tank and it felt really luxurious.
    Mine was a 58 plate and I got rid of it about 9 years ago and it still stacks up today all these years later.

  • @thistimeimhere
    @thistimeimhere Год назад +6

    These have grown on me more and more. I think it's because the big lights and stuff where ahead of their time really. Now most cars have similar treatment it doesn't look to my eyes as unusual as it used to.
    I also like the buttress on back window. They are attempting big cruiser for 1500 quid.

  • @f4tpie
    @f4tpie Год назад +1

    Very enjoyable review of an excellent all rounder for the regular man.
    I work all over the country but due to work hours commonly have to sleep in the car. Therefore I needed and frugal, reliable and lengthy estate. I landed on a Merc C220 (2012) as they came from a time when Mercedes were trying to re establish their reputation for reliability and it achieves 70+mpg and has 170bhp. I could well have saved £3.5k and bought one of these!
    I would love to see a comparison video between normal ‘every man’ cars such as a 10-15yr old 320d, Volvo V70 and Peugeot for example as cars for normal people under £5k. Chris Harris’ ‘do you need more than a 320d’ video style.
    Great video!

  • @matthewgodwin3050
    @matthewgodwin3050 Год назад +2

    I'm ashamed to say that I didn't even know there was a 407 Coupe. Now that I do, I rather like it.

  • @TheKrakovv
    @TheKrakovv Год назад +3

    I love those more affordable car reviews

  • @jo05dk
    @jo05dk Год назад +5

    I was (still am) firmly in the "what went wrong" camp, when this took over after the insanely beautiful 406 Coupe. It's awkward af to look at, imho. I have however known a couple of guys who had a 407 estate with that 1,6 TDI engine. It excites me in no way, but it's a competent and comfortable car, with surprisingly little legroom for the people in back. Not in any way a car that shows up in my dreams, but i respect it for what it is. Would be on my list of cars to consider if i needed a cheap but comfortable car..in estate version.

  • @BlueHopi144
    @BlueHopi144 Год назад +4

    I still own a 307 SW with the 1.6 110 HP engine & i am absolutely delighted with it ( how it handles , how robust it is & how smooth the engine is , after 181,000 kms ) . Lovely review of your 407 , the Coupe version is probably one of the most beautiful Peugeot ever made & designed

    • @volvo24091
      @volvo24091 Год назад +2

      Have driven the 307 hatch. Performed way much better than all the competitor German cars from that time. The 1.6 petrol surprisingly powerful

    • @BlueHopi144
      @BlueHopi144 Год назад

      @@volvo24091 amazing isn't it ? that 1.6 is a marvel of an engine . Enough power to be speedy on specific roads or passing cars on the highway + smooth as silk anytime i need it to be . Great combination . Found it for 3,500 € in 2019 in Belgium . I just wish it had 136 HP like some models had .

  • @devanman7920
    @devanman7920 Год назад +1

    It's actually mad how a review of something like this is so much more interesting than some unattainable ferrari

  • @BAC_Mono
    @BAC_Mono Год назад

    I had one of these! A 10 mile manual V6 coupe bought from a Peugeot dealer where it had been sitting in the showroom for a year. I paid 1/2 MRSP! I also had a BMW 650i, a previous unsung hero you featured. You're literally working your way through my old car history James. May I suggest one of the following next? Renault GTA Turbo, Peugeot 406 V6 coupe. Thanks for featuring some interesting cars on your channel.

  • @scottscottsdale7868
    @scottscottsdale7868 Год назад +1

    Thanks for this. Nice to see such a nice car with 100k miles on it. I am in Madagascar now and they sell cars for shockingly high prices claiming to be 1 owner with 85K km that are simply outrageous. The car market here is tragic. And there is. O real financing of new cars. Folks should never complain about $ 500/ month BMW lease with 30,000 mile allowance. That just does not exist here. 😢

  • @user-sf7kl9uh7k
    @user-sf7kl9uh7k 10 месяцев назад

    This explains Jays nice production work. A smart man

  • @thomasbenjamin6314
    @thomasbenjamin6314 Год назад +5

    My first car was a 1960 Peugeot 403 (I'm 78). The car had a hand crank just in case. The seats would convert into a bed. Great for the drive-in movie's.

    • @Aurora1337onYT
      @Aurora1337onYT Год назад

      The Handcrank sounds interesting, the bed would be nice in todays cars too!

  • @jozsefizsak
    @jozsefizsak Год назад +1

    That's very interesting and I want it but I don't think we ever got them here. Pity.

  • @Veroxzes
    @Veroxzes Год назад

    My first car is a 2012 Peugeot 508 SW. 1.6L. I actually bought it in March 2021 before I got my license. I used it to learn to drive in with my mom. Got my license in February 2022. Driven all around with it since. Luxury yacht on the road for the money and as a first car.
    52mpg in the summer and 47mpg in the winter.
    994 miles of range!
    More range than newer cars because of the much bigger tank. 72L. New cars are around 50-60L at most. My dad has a 2018 Peugeot 3008 GT and it has a 53L tank.

  • @disturbed250
    @disturbed250 Год назад +1

    Not sure what it is but there has always been something about the big Pug coupes ive liked...lol

  • @wayneoriordan6749
    @wayneoriordan6749 Год назад +1

    Those 1.6 hdi are brilliant engines if there serviced and maintained ive ran them to mega miles

    • @ciaranm8772
      @ciaranm8772 Год назад

      I know of a 13 Berlingo 1.6 HDI at 550k miles on original engine

  • @german_lifestyle_tajbakhsh7282
    @german_lifestyle_tajbakhsh7282 9 месяцев назад +1

    I enjoyed every single word you expressed. I have a coupe and I really adore it! Take a look at it❤

  • @im2noob4bronze
    @im2noob4bronze Год назад

    my dad owns a 307 sw as you showed i the beginning, and what i great family-mover it is. trunk space is just insane, it can easily fit my whole 4 person family's stuff when we go for month-long summer vacation in my village, and it's 1.6 Lt engine can easily maintain 130kmph in highways. the room even for the rear seats is excellent too, super confortable. only it's fuel consumption is not very good, but we fitted it with liquid gas a few years ago and now this changed completely

  • @williamdrijver4141
    @williamdrijver4141 Год назад +1

    Quite a rare and interesting car. In terms of image much more attractive than a BMW / Mercedes / Audi etc.

  • @jeremywentworth1833
    @jeremywentworth1833 Год назад +1

    Never owned a Peugeot but do think they are a better brand manufacturer than they are given credit. My 83 years old Dad has a petrol 207 GT on a 58 plate in the 12 years of so other than the electronic power steering has never let him down admittedly he now only does 4000 miles a year but he did he's done about 60,000 miles with no problem. I've alwat thought the 407 coupe was a decent looking motor along with the RCZ.

    • @SamHocking
      @SamHocking Год назад

      Primarily the UK motor industry journalists are a bit biased so it becomes distorted opinions in the public imo. Peugeot iirc are the biggest selling brand in France ahead of Renault & Citroen and they're as much of a car nation as UK although probably a bit more patriotic too.

  • @waters1801
    @waters1801 Год назад +1

    I love the styling of this

  • @joshbrailsford
    @joshbrailsford Год назад +9

    I don't think the 407 coupé is pretty like the 406 coupé, but I do think it's handsome, to my eye moreso than the saloon and SW variants. And with the amount of kit on offer for the price, plus the well-tuned suspension, I can see why you'd choose one over something German.

    • @frenchbred2081
      @frenchbred2081 Год назад +1

      Indeed but people always think the German cars are the best! I had more issues with my bmw/mercs over the years than any of my Peugeots.

    • @joshbrailsford
      @joshbrailsford Год назад +1

      @@frenchbred2081 I can believe it. I've never owned a German car myself, but family and friends have done, and they've all had plenty of issues with them. All cars have their issues, but for me it comes down to how much of a pain those issues are to fix. I've had good experience with Italian cars being simple and cheap to fix.

    • @frenchbred2081
      @frenchbred2081 Год назад

      @@joshbrailsford indeed sometimes the ownership experience is better if a fault is easily rectified as well. My 360 spider had a failed F1 pump a few years ago and it was sourced cheaply easily from Alfa Romeo rather than 4 times the price for the same part from Ferrari.

    • @alexjaybrady
      @alexjaybrady Год назад +1

      I remember thinking it was absolutely hideous to the point it actually made me a bit cross!! and can't really remember why now, of course the 406 is an amazing design but this thing really isn't that bad especially in this colour and the interior is legit nice