veiled one = 28% chance of triggering crit from attacks, 44% from dagger (at lvl 25) methodical = 5 attacks ON THE SAME TARGET, wich can be rounded to 20% crit chance, w dagger getting chance of triggering 2 stacks (40%) + 125% crit damage from pure dps methodical is better, but i found veiled one is still the go-to cos it makes aganim so much better and in an end-game scenario where PA shines
That build in the first game was rough-late BKB, Daedalus (really?), and no Nullifier or stun? I understand the Maelstrom for attack speed and the AC, but everything else just felt all over the place. Not a real PA build at all. Also, the thumbnail was pure clickbait, and the match turned into a throw-fest. First time I’ve been disappointed by a Dotown video.
I understand you want to hype up your cool build idea in the beginning but some of the information you give there is dishonest and at worst false (dps comparison against dummy, when you rule out one as trash, it's so super exaggerated). Cool vid tho, was really entertaining to watch!
@@boooshannon crit chance is better than 6 hit to crit More aspd more crit with chance since dota percentage is pseudo RNG so it's better to do percentage than fix 6 hit That build is just trying to be edgy with speed, it's worse than full aspd juggernaut back then You can see how PA struggle to kill a single support , no BKB no shit at early game while getting CC so many times, no linken, no thing Well ofc it's for entertaining viewers but damn , if someone try this build i guarantee you gonna have a hard time playin
1) Mario looked weird and unsuitable 2) The material was not impressive because of weak build 3) Good idea with view from above because it makes the fight pathetic 4) Thank you so much, I do wait for new dotown videos
can we get a fair comparison for the dps pls? yes, teamwork will make your damage output higher. this example was also given after a significant amount of bias. power to your opinions, it's good to see variety alive and kicking, but for demonstrative purposes, how about some clean data?
By the time I hit 6 times I always crit at least once even without methodical, something even 3 times, so what's the fucking point... I feel like the purpose of that facet is to do long range dagger snipes with like a planned big D crit, no just a bunch of attack speed and dmg, that's kinda how you play normal Ta anyway. But great video, your editing was really nice
The whole point of PA is to stack the ulti on creeps and thow a dagger on a support from blur, one-shotting him starting the fight 4v5. If no creeps around, RNG does the trick. Moreover, crits help jungling. Methodical has 3% less winrate on dotabuff too. It's objectively worse
I fucking love Tidehunter. Also the second match was unbelievably tense towards the end, can't state how much of a raid boss this Axe was... the build at the end was BKB/Greaves/Blink/Daedalus/AC/moon shard/consumed shard/Giants ring lvl 29 Kraken Swell w/bloodlust too
Imo Methodical is much better if you're going mid as the consistency and power spike is amazing for a ganging / early fighting PA but Veiled One allows you to farm a lot more easily, get big by end game and go ham with agh's. So Veiled One is my go-to for pos1 in a more farm heavy game. Do love me some mid PA though, blur makes early gangs so easy and picking up a styg nice and early allows you to chonk people.
NO NO NO NO NO bro ursa is a carry make Bkb remove Oct blade mail wind waker heart shroud and sange instead build swift blink BF Satanic (solo roshan) abyssal blade Bkb and DO NOT REMOVE BF but u can remove boots since it's optional cause of the tier 5 neutral item force boots and that's a good ursa build not what u said (no offense but I am a ursa main)
@@Catdreamer656 lmao, with new facet, damage taken from enrage to damage, you can get infinity buff damage up to 1000k+ with octarine and lvl 25 talent. My winrate in ursa literally 80%, only lose when enemy buy nullifier to counter my eul. 5k gameplay. I learn from gorc too.
In the last game it geels like with all the atackspeed buffs you could have last item got a butterfly and still cap out at 700 with the lower base attack time
Versuch mal Echosabre + Kanhda ;) Dagger und der Jump lösen Kanhda aus =) Wenn du gerade kein Coup-de-Grace hast kannst normal critten und schnellerer stack Aufbau durch Echosabre
NICE BUILD BUT THERES EVEN MORE OP BUILD THAN THAT MY ITEM BUILD WAS FURY,MAGE SLAYER,SHARD,SHROUD,BFLY OR SKADI THEN PARASMA SELL SHROUD GET NULL OR MOONSHARD try it for youself
I dont think this methodical is broken.. I mean you have 1 crit every 5 attacks = 16,6% chance crit. Without it you have 17% chance crit anyways sooooo
I dont understand how a hero with satanic active is lossing health to a blade mail. I just cant figure out the math.. u go from 30% to 175% lifesteal and blade mail returns 100%. ( i am not sure if its the passive 30% + 175%, i says increases lifesteal to 175% ) It looks rly stupid to me to be lossing hp to a blademail.
??? I get methodical is better now that the stacks cannot be dispelled, but they still all have to be on the same target, meaning you can't throw crit daggers in lane, the stack duration still gets reduced by status resistance, and you can't go aggressively farm in enemy vision, I never go methodical, you can get mega kited, and the farming is better, I always go veiled one.
methodical either needs to be way more consistant or damaging to outweigh veiled one in my opinion. Methodical seems just too challenging to land in usual scenario, while veiled one crit can proc better, doesn't need to be on one target, facet buffs blur. So methodical seems better just on paper.
What strat should we try next? PLEASE NO MEEPO THO :O
Venomancer with Plague Carrier facet spammer
Go attack speed Eblade Huskar with Hex, Bloodstone, & Revenant Brooch.
@@Dotown CK PRO MAX 24 Summon Illusions
@@Dotown WIN A GAME WITH ONLY ILLUSIONS Pushin the racks and towers. CK GIGA CAST RANGE HALF MAP PULL
@@Dotown 6 BOOTS IO MID
-Tries to make a video about a broken pa build.
- Carried by tide.
Clown activities
veiled one = 28% chance of triggering crit from attacks, 44% from dagger (at lvl 25)
methodical = 5 attacks ON THE SAME TARGET, wich can be rounded to 20% crit chance, w dagger getting chance of triggering 2 stacks (40%) + 125% crit damage
from pure dps methodical is better, but i found veiled one is still the go-to cos it makes aganim so much better and in an end-game scenario where PA shines
That build in the first game was rough-late BKB, Daedalus (really?), and no Nullifier or stun? I understand the Maelstrom for attack speed and the AC, but everything else just felt all over the place. Not a real PA build at all. Also, the thumbnail was pure clickbait, and the match turned into a throw-fest. First time I’ve been disappointed by a Dotown video.
@@victorreitstatter1705 was worst to see his focus.
The one frame "I don't wanna edit this anymore" killed me hahahahaha 18:14
😂
dude i was so done with the video at this point hahaha
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1k theory crafting and gameplay is so painful
Press your goddamn mjollnir
3:46
massive pjollnir
My thoughts exactly 🫠
I think it's replay bug sometimes
@@jessejamesbi think its a live game
1:20 love when the song and last hits sync up 😂
I understand you want to hype up your cool build idea in the beginning but some of the information you give there is dishonest and at worst false (dps comparison against dummy, when you rule out one as trash, it's so super exaggerated). Cool vid tho, was really entertaining to watch!
What's the issue? Skill buff gives att speed. No buff and standard att gets slower to 6 crit hit. The concept is there.
@@boooshannonbut i think the other facet is better.. crit chance can be done consecutively
@@boooshannon crit chance is better than 6 hit to crit
More aspd more crit with chance since dota percentage is pseudo RNG so it's better to do percentage than fix 6 hit
That build is just trying to be edgy with speed, it's worse than full aspd juggernaut back then
You can see how PA struggle to kill a single support , no BKB no shit at early game while getting CC so many times, no linken, no thing
Well ofc it's for entertaining viewers but damn , if someone try this build i guarantee you gonna have a hard time playin
Wtf is wrong with you people... This is literally a meme/joke build that is tested on high ranked pub...
Don't take things so seriously
Dayum, people arguing over meme video, dayum.....
Nerds
I've spent 50 hours editing this. GETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEAD
Anyways, how did you guys like the video?
Yes
1) Mario looked weird and unsuitable
2) The material was not impressive because of weak build
3) Good idea with view from above because it makes the fight pathetic
4) Thank you so much, I do wait for new dotown videos
Good Job Tesla 🫡 ~Larry
Tesla ran out of electricity after finishing this 😂
Panning teamfights in the replay were so nice man. vvell play
"IM BEEEEG, HOLY SHET" DOKKIR'S Tide dopamine never fails to make me laugh
That Zeus failed miserably by not kicking a PA out of his lane, great content very entertaining
What is tide's build on last game man that was strong af. Obliterated axe and the team, basically saving the game.
BKB/Greaves/Blink/Daedalus/AC/moon shard/consumed shard/Giants ring lvl 29 Kraken Swell w/bloodlust :)
1:20 my favorite part of all your videos
I want a 10 hour version of this, please
I literally watch these videos for the introductions upto 1:50. The best.
Played like a true herald, tide MVP
can we get a fair comparison for the dps pls? yes, teamwork will make your damage output higher. this example was also given after a significant amount of bias. power to your opinions, it's good to see variety alive and kicking, but for demonstrative purposes, how about some clean data?
When doing dps comparison, Why are you not buffing both PA’s?
always love the farming transition man love it
PA with echosaber/harpoon first build is my go to for this. kinda sick late game when -1 atk count. sure crit after you blink in
By the time I hit 6 times I always crit at least once even without methodical, something even 3 times, so what's the fucking point...
I feel like the purpose of that facet is to do long range dagger snipes with like a planned big D crit, no just a bunch of attack speed and dmg, that's kinda how you play normal Ta anyway.
But great video, your editing was really nice
1:00 this music haha
My favorite overpowered music 😂😂
As a Jojo fan I have to agree with you
are you playing with OD pixel in this game?
the fact CK is running away from you instead of fighting feels like you playing 1k mmr lobby
7:10 Jerry and DarkLighter just gave the same reaction to clockwork almost getting away.
Thanks for coming back Albatros track, my lovely)
Sacrifice damage to get attack speed just to crit more with way less damage is why people opt out of the build you made
Hitting like without even watching because of the music and last hits in sync at 1:34
Cómo es posible que ustedes hagan videos más entretenidos, mejor diseñados y con mejor calidad que empresas con millones de dólares? Amo su trabajo!
The whole point of PA is to stack the ulti on creeps and thow a dagger on a support from blur, one-shotting him starting the fight 4v5. If no creeps around, RNG does the trick.
Moreover, crits help jungling.
Methodical has 3% less winrate on dotabuff too.
It's objectively worse
I think Methodical only works in matches where the enemy has no map awareness...
Bluring does nothing if the enemy doesn't look at the minimap xD
I fucking love Tidehunter. Also the second match was unbelievably tense towards the end, can't state how much of a raid boss this Axe was... the build at the end was BKB/Greaves/Blink/Daedalus/AC/moon shard/consumed shard/Giants ring lvl 29 Kraken Swell w/bloodlust too
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I love this kind of content tbh
Refreshing to see someone doing troll builds at their correct mmr rather than just smurfing
1 percent skills 99 percent trash talker
Song name at 9:08? its not in the playlist
Niklas Johansson - Call of The North
Dokkir is such a vibe😆
That sync at the begining had to go on repeat few times haha xD
Hahha I like the "pushing please standby" hahahaha😂
Imo Methodical is much better if you're going mid as the consistency and power spike is amazing for a ganging / early fighting PA but Veiled One allows you to farm a lot more easily, get big by end game and go ham with agh's. So Veiled One is my go-to for pos1 in a more farm heavy game. Do love me some mid PA though, blur makes early gangs so easy and picking up a styg nice and early allows you to chonk people.
why pa no shard?
the GG at the end was classic lol
Where's the 6 moonshards wtf
clickbait 😂
your editing skills is good bro
thanks bro
Госпаде чел, я так орнул на 1:48, так неожиданно😂
Mega nice!! Feier es auch immer mal Deutsche rage momente dabei zu haben 😂😂😂
Präbiert doch mal was mit liefestealer aus, 8k leben oder so.
Use the nature mega treant strat, maybe, with attack speed ? Or maybe a KOTL to get really low CD on it too so you have lots of big treants ?
what's the BGM on this? 8:53
can't seem to find it on the link that you shared. Thanks in advance! liked your content btw
Niklas Johansson - Call of The North
have my like for matching gold sound with music
2:01 how can badland make that salve look so refreshing?
Yoo, the games were Eeeeeepic. Very entertaining! Music 10/10
Damn, that music and last hit so fkng good
dokkir is the main character.
Nice heraldinho build🤡🤡🤡
Also looks like the mjollnir's active ability requires extra payment in USD to use or something.
What was Tide’s build in the second game?
BKB/Greaves/Blink/Daedalus/AC/moon shard/consumed shard/Giants ring lvl 29 Kraken Swell w/bloodlust :)
4:04 whoa whoa whoa dokkir chill🤣
A cheeky shackle to a branch tree also from WR, unexpected in 27minutes. 4:10
are you playing against herald players?
4:46 passive mjollnir, passive wand
i love u guys u made my day in only one video of dota and yes of dota i can't belive i said some one video of dota 2
What rank are your pubs ? Zeus did not mario jump even once after blink that's so funny :)
Somebody does not know the law of diminishing return
So satisfying ugh 1:20
my ursa build: BF, Dagger, Agha, (tormentor solo), shard, octarine, blade mail, wind waker, heart of tarrasque, sange yasha/shroud, remove boots and bf.
take talent, +15 sec buff, 2 stack fury swipe earthshock, 400 aoe earthshock, and 2 charge earthshock.
NO NO NO NO NO bro ursa is a carry make Bkb remove Oct blade mail wind waker heart shroud and sange instead build swift blink BF Satanic (solo roshan) abyssal blade Bkb and DO NOT REMOVE BF but u can remove boots since it's optional cause of the tier 5 neutral item force boots and that's a good ursa build not what u said (no offense but I am a ursa main)
@@Catdreamer656 lmao, with new facet, damage taken from enrage to damage, you can get infinity buff damage up to 1000k+ with octarine and lvl 25 talent. My winrate in ursa literally 80%, only lose when enemy buy nullifier to counter my eul. 5k gameplay. I learn from gorc too.
In the last game it geels like with all the atackspeed buffs you could have last item got a butterfly and still cap out at 700 with the lower base attack time
I enjoy budget OD Pixel
Versuch mal Echosabre + Kanhda ;) Dagger und der Jump lösen Kanhda aus =) Wenn du gerade kein Coup-de-Grace hast kannst normal critten und schnellerer stack Aufbau durch Echosabre
Ese zeus es medalla heraldo 😂😂😂
Nice bro ❤😍 this facet + att speed is REAL CANCER 😂
Here we go again. A gameplay with nice and full of memes
NICE BUILD BUT THERES EVEN MORE OP BUILD THAN THAT MY ITEM BUILD WAS FURY,MAGE SLAYER,SHARD,SHROUD,BFLY OR SKADI THEN PARASMA SELL SHROUD GET NULL OR MOONSHARD try it for youself
I've seen this build it's midlaner build
@@christiancapilitan749 Im much more confident to play it safelane
The last hits matching the beat 🥵 zamn
methodical so bad 💯
I dont think this methodical is broken.. I mean you have 1 crit every 5 attacks = 16,6% chance crit. Without it you have 17% chance crit anyways sooooo
this is the first time i see u guys play it seriously.
Didn't have shard in the first game, would have been over earlier than required tbh.
Why not go Bloodthorne and Silver edge on PA? both give attack speed and silences casters and backline heroes. Also amplifies her damage on them
I envy having 4 friends to play dota with ... now it's a toxic game for me :(
5:24 i see you
Build so broken that Dokkir needs to save the game xd
I might be biased but the tidehunter was the real MVP ;p
veiled one is still better bcs i can go 3 rapiers, khanda and shadow blade to spam Q mysteriously
many times it even doesn't need 6 or 5 attacks
I dont understand how a hero with satanic active is lossing health to a blade mail.
I just cant figure out the math.. u go from 30% to 175% lifesteal and blade mail returns 100%. ( i am not sure if its the passive 30% + 175%, i says increases lifesteal to 175% )
It looks rly stupid to me to be lossing hp to a blademail.
armour diff
Yes it Works if 4 people support 1, impossible in 5 man random pubs
The name of that song pls what is that
awesome and intense fight!! both team did well 🔥🔥
Try axe with ags and full attack speed + bloodstone
sir just suggestion you go orb > boot > sabre
1 early nulifier you guys shouldn't have to suffer that much in a game
8:53 song name pls😂😂
You didn’t do that build on the thumbnail.
real w here is you have friends to play with
Did you know mjolnir does indeed have an active ability?
5:23 EYYO?
Даже я вспотел ,пока смотрел первую часть.
??? I get methodical is better now that the stacks cannot be dispelled, but they still all have to be on the same target, meaning you can't throw crit daggers in lane, the stack duration still gets reduced by status resistance, and you can't go aggressively farm in enemy vision, I never go methodical, you can get mega kited, and the farming is better, I always go veiled one.
methodical either needs to be way more consistant or damaging to outweigh veiled one in my opinion. Methodical seems just too challenging to land in usual scenario, while veiled one crit can proc better, doesn't need to be on one target, facet buffs blur. So methodical seems better just on paper.
Getting cancer and losing hope...
Meanwhile : Easiest game in my life
Big Bad Watermelon.
4:43 what in the noob. Passive mjolnir. Didnt use stick or topson tread switch to str >:)
If you loose with facet 1, that’s a luck issue.
If you loose with facet 2, that’s a skill issue.
Dokkir is so funny lol
Rizpol could never 😂