It is not Mer job to reach out to Thatcher. She is the child and he is the father. She did what she had to and she made it clear that she would be open to a relationship. All he had to do was make an effort, she was his responsibility. I am like Mer, my father abandoned me at 8. After graduation I sent him a letter telling how I felt about him and I gave him the chance to start up an relationship. I forgave him. He still hasn't tried. I am not gonna waste reaching out to someone who wants to be closed off from me. Even his wife tries to reach out to me, kinda how Lexie's mom reached out to Mer.
Right because in real life Ellen and Jesse are super close, I think she even calls him her little brother. Plus both Mer and Jackson have had a similar lifestyle and their love for Lexie
So she lost her mother, her step mother, her best friend, her unborn baby, her sister, her husbands best friend, her husband and now her father...my lord how the hell is she still standing!!!
Christina didn’t die, she left. So when i said best friend I meant George. Im sure i have missed some one else. I bet when it ends SHE gets killed off lol.
Mark was her friend too! Dirty Mistress club! She’s also drowned, got blown up, had emergency surgery (season 3), gave birth with no power and bled out, opperated through a miscarriage while her husband was being opperated on, told a shooter to shoot her, been in a plane and ambulance crash, watch her mother bleed out in front of her!!
Why has no one talked about the fact that he smacked her across the face in front of the whole hospital? Like imagine abandoning your child, then saying you want a relationship after she shows up at your door, then blaming her for your wife’s death. He’s not a good man.
@@lisrod29 personally, I think everybody has to earn their respect, regardless of status or relationship. Just because he’s her dad doesn’t mean she owes him anything if he doesn’t deserve it. That’s just how I feel generally.
@@shanstergoodheart5177 He walked out and left her and Ellis. Ellis was planning on being with Richard but he wouldn't leave Adele. She then couldn't handle it, tried to commit suicide, found out she was pregnant with Maggie, and took Meredith and fled to Boston. Through all of that, Thatcher put no effort in trying to get even shared custody of Meredith. In season 2 when Meredith shows up on Thatcher's doorstep, she asks why he didn't fight for her and he responds by asking if she needs anything.
Grey curse really works. Mer has her own long list of tragedies and even Ellis didn't have any better. And now Thatcher. ➡His wife Ellis cheats on him. ➡Leaves him & takes Meredith away. ➡Doesn't have a relation with Mer.(he didn't try) ➡Meets Mer again, who hates him. ➡2nd wife dies from hiccups. ➡He becomes an alcoholic. ➡Destroys his liver & gets new liver from Mer i.e. estranged daughter. ➡Midlife crisis in form of Danielle (his girlfriend). ➡2nd daughter dies in a plane crash. ➡Doesn't know his grandkids from Mer. ➡Now has cancer & is waiting to die in hospice. Grey's are really cursed.
I thought she was the second oldest after Meredith. Although I guess if you go by Meredith, Maggie, Molly and the Lexie was supposed to be the youngest.
First of all he was always an alcoholic, he just didn’t acknowledge it his whole life. Second he was a shitty father and doesn’t deserve to know his grandkids.
She said to jackson his response wasn't helpful. A little untrue. As the daughter of an absent father i respect his answer. You don't know because the feelings aren't strong. There was no encouragement for us as children. I was given the impression that I wasn't important enough for him to care about me. So were jackson and meredith. Her ambivalence about him has always been completely logical to me, as is jackson's response.
I don’t think she’s saying that his answer was wrong, I think Meredith was saying that wasn’t the answer she was looking for. She was hoping for something more concrete. I know I’m a little late with this reply but still. Also I mean no hate. Just looking to clarify
He calls her Meredith in every instance in this clip. However, when Richard says it, it blurs slightly and it can sound like he is saying Mer, but he actually typically uses her full name most of the time.
They better never touch her children - SHE OUT LIVES HER CHILDREN OKAY? This woman has lost EVERYONE in her life at this point - and she still stands tall and functions normally without being a mean biddy.
I mean poor Mer. She just has all these sisters that keep coming out of the woodwork. Granted the fact that she keeps accepting every one of them. But seriously.😢
Not fully true because molly literally was mentioned at the very beginning but other than maybe two episodes we never seen molly again. Which I always thought was weird they even had her in the story line if she was never and I mean never relevant
I’m waiting for mine to die because he is an actual deadbeat and chose drink and drugs. I wouldn’t even show up at his funeral to check he is actually dead. 😅
hmm...will we ever talk about the fact that Meredith also does not talk to her other sister Molly. Does she talk to Derek's sisters, you know, her children's aunts. Seriously writers!
She has close relation with amelia and with the one who gave derek her nerve so we could assume she does even if not derek didn't either. He always kept himself at distance from his sisters
Also Thatcher did try a few times...just sayin. I mean I'm not a Thatcher fan by any means but he definitely did try to reach out to her more than she did to him.
Didn’t someone call her dad to find out where Mer was after Derek died and she just took off. Why would anyone call him if they weren’t in contact and he hadn’t been at the funeral? How would they even have his number? It seems a bit weird to mention him specifically back then and now just say they never had contact. This doesn’t feel like a well thought out story line at all.
okay I have a few problems with this but the main one is comparing Thatcher to Jackson's dad,umm no, like him or not Thatcher has tried multiple times to be there for Meredith but he just gave up I guess because she definitely wasn't interested although I thought the last episode he was in they had an ok relationship? weird.
It's not a competition, Meredith's dad was not there for her, he wasn't a father to her and instead chose to be a father to his other 2 daughters. He chose not to stay in touch with her up until Idk when and so to her it's kinda a comparable situation. She also did not say that her dad was as bad as Jackson's, she just said they both have horrible father's.
He never tried, Susan tried to get them to have a relationship then she died and thatcher slapped Meredith. Then she gave the ass a piece of her Liver. He never tried and now he is dying. She has -10 emotional attachment towards him.
I've never quite understood the Thatcher hate. Didn't big Ellis essentially just take Meredith away from him. He could have dealt with their reunion better but by then she had decided that she hated him also his wife died shortly afterwards and he was rather upset. It doesn't seem as though Ellis offered him contact that he refused. He doesn't seem like a deadbeat to me.
It wasn't just that, they reconnected during the show and when thatchers wife died he blamed Meredith and slapped her across the face. It's not that he's a deadbeat, its that he's an awful person and an alcoholic
There's no indication he even tried to get access to her or even visits. I'm sure Ellis made it difficult but any court would have given him at least visits. And then when she became an adult he had many many years to make an effort. She even opened the door for him, more than once. Even then he didn't. And was actively nasty to her some of the time. But mostly just ignored her.
She has never been good with emotions like that. Doesn't help the people she loves keep dying/ leaving her behind. Her mother, her step mother, Mark, Lexie, Derek all dead. Christina and now Alex gone, not dead but just not in her life. Not her people. Maggie she doesn't really have the history with, in some ways she is too bright and innocent and Amelia is just as messed up as Meredith. She has her own issues. So Meredith hides behind the doctor mask when talking about those who died.
Is this me, or deluca do actually look like Derek esp from the back and side portion...bcs in starting of the scene when he turned on side for sec I thought Derek is back..
then don't watch it. Simple. Last time I checked, if Ellen Pompeo wants to leave the show, that's when the show will end according to both Pompeo and Shonda. You don't get to decide whether it's time for the show to end. That's up to Shonda and Ellen.
"When Lexie died, I guess..." Ouch, that hurt
Thatcher didn't reach out when Derek died? Jerk
They both never try..... i mean he should try 4 times harder all thimgs considered but yeah they both don't
Zauraise Azhar Not calling your daughter when her HUSBAND dies is just trash. Period. Even if she doesn’t reach out to you, it’s still straight trash.
Lori M he showed up to her funeral but didn’t talk to her
It is not Mer job to reach out to Thatcher. She is the child and he is the father. She did what she had to and she made it clear that she would be open to a relationship. All he had to do was make an effort, she was his responsibility. I am like Mer, my father abandoned me at 8. After graduation I sent him a letter telling how I felt about him and I gave him the chance to start up an relationship. I forgave him. He still hasn't tried. I am not gonna waste reaching out to someone who wants to be closed off from me. Even his wife tries to reach out to me, kinda how Lexie's mom reached out to Mer.
I’ve never understood why they didn’t build up the friendship with Meredith and Jackson. You would think they would be great friends...
I love the relationship between Jackson and Mer; they're just like true siblings (Richard's been acting like a father to her since season 1 anyways)!
agree. I think they should have built a really strong friendship between him, Mer, and Alex. They were the last guys from the same graduation year.
Right because in real life Ellen and Jesse are super close, I think she even calls him her little brother. Plus both Mer and Jackson have had a similar lifestyle and their love for Lexie
They are,his last episode will get you in the heart
Right because of the famous parents and deadbeat dads
So she lost her mother, her step mother, her best friend, her unborn baby, her sister, her husbands best friend, her husband and now her father...my lord how the hell is she still standing!!!
Don't forget George!
Christina didn’t die, she left. So when i said best friend I meant George. Im sure i have missed some one else. I bet when it ends SHE gets killed off lol.
Don't forget Doc.
And her dog*
Mark was her friend too! Dirty Mistress club! She’s also drowned, got blown up, had emergency surgery (season 3), gave birth with no power and bled out, opperated through a miscarriage while her husband was being opperated on, told a shooter to shoot her, been in a plane and ambulance crash, watch her mother bleed out in front of her!!
Mer: “He doesn’t even know I have a sister.”
Maggie: “It was sort of a... love child situation-“
i CACKLED
Why has no one talked about the fact that he smacked her across the face in front of the whole hospital? Like imagine abandoning your child, then saying you want a relationship after she shows up at your door, then blaming her for your wife’s death. He’s not a good man.
But he is her dad.
@@lisrod29 personally, I think everybody has to earn their respect, regardless of status or relationship. Just because he’s her dad doesn’t mean she owes him anything if he doesn’t deserve it. That’s just how I feel generally.
@@marigoldgreen5006 I couldn't agree more
Did he abandon her though. I thought she was taken from him. Granted the smack was completely uncalled for.
@@shanstergoodheart5177 He walked out and left her and Ellis. Ellis was planning on being with Richard but he wouldn't leave Adele. She then couldn't handle it, tried to commit suicide, found out she was pregnant with Maggie, and took Meredith and fled to Boston. Through all of that, Thatcher put no effort in trying to get even shared custody of Meredith. In season 2 when Meredith shows up on Thatcher's doorstep, she asks why he didn't fight for her and he responds by asking if she needs anything.
“When Lexi died I guess” she said it so casually that hurt
Cause she’s at peace with losing her
Maybe cause her sister died years ago,so talking about it is easier
Maggie's response dead on perfect!
When Jackson thinks his dad is dying, Mer rolls her eyes like "DUDE, THIS AIN'T ABOUT YOU!" LOL
I read it more as he thought it was a medical case. Like he was expecting to spitball treatment options
@@misslegacyatheart Interesting! Maggie's response says otherwise but I like your interpretation.
Grey curse really works.
Mer has her own long list of tragedies and even Ellis didn't have any better. And now Thatcher.
➡His wife Ellis cheats on him.
➡Leaves him & takes Meredith away.
➡Doesn't have a relation with Mer.(he didn't try)
➡Meets Mer again, who hates him.
➡2nd wife dies from hiccups.
➡He becomes an alcoholic.
➡Destroys his liver & gets new liver from Mer i.e. estranged daughter.
➡Midlife crisis in form of Danielle (his girlfriend).
➡2nd daughter dies in a plane crash.
➡Doesn't know his grandkids from Mer.
➡Now has cancer & is waiting to die in hospice.
Grey's are really cursed.
Sonal Sharma didn’t he have 2 daughters with his second wife?
@@joycedates2059
Yaa, one of them is alive Molly. She is the youngest
I thought she was the second oldest after Meredith. Although I guess if you go by Meredith, Maggie, Molly and the Lexie was supposed to be the youngest.
@@joycedates2059
I am pretty sure the age order is:
Meredith
Maggie
Lexie
Molly
First of all he was always an alcoholic, he just didn’t acknowledge it his whole life. Second he was a shitty father and doesn’t deserve to know his grandkids.
When thatcher slapped my mom *cough* I mean Meredith I was like boi you wanna go?
“Do you want to talk about it?”
“No.”
**talks about it**
Jackson over there thinking...man, life doesn't leave mer alone
I so loved the character of Meredith,in everyway
.. she's so damn strong! .I'm supposed to grieve..🤣😂
Why was I so undoubtedly sure he had already died several seasons ago? lol
Mareeen14 wait no like actually same!!! Lol 😂
😂😂
The new writers treat lexie like crap, whenever they bring her up
She said to jackson his response wasn't helpful. A little untrue. As the daughter of an absent father i respect his answer. You don't know because the feelings aren't strong. There was no encouragement for us as children. I was given the impression that I wasn't important enough for him to care about me. So were jackson and meredith. Her ambivalence about him has always been completely logical to me, as is jackson's response.
I don’t think she’s saying that his answer was wrong, I think Meredith was saying that wasn’t the answer she was looking for. She was hoping for something more concrete. I know I’m a little late with this reply but still. Also I mean no hate. Just looking to clarify
I love that even Richard calls Mer Mer
He calls her Meredith in every instance in this clip. However, when Richard says it, it blurs slightly and it can sound like he is saying Mer, but he actually typically uses her full name most of the time.
They better never touch her children - SHE OUT LIVES HER CHILDREN OKAY? This woman has lost EVERYONE in her life at this point - and she still stands tall and functions normally without being a mean biddy.
She said “when Lexie died” so nonchalantly
This may sound callous... but I didn't really feel bad for Thatcher. For Mer maybe...probably still a lot of inresolved issues for her
I mean poor Mer. She just has all these sisters that keep coming out of the woodwork. Granted the fact that she keeps accepting every one of them. But seriously.😢
Not fully true because molly literally was mentioned at the very beginning but other than maybe two episodes we never seen molly again. Which I always thought was weird they even had her in the story line if she was never and I mean never relevant
My father was never in my life either. It might sound mean, but I didn't really feel anything when he died, except bored at his funeral.
I’m waiting for mine to die because he is an actual deadbeat and chose drink and drugs. I wouldn’t even show up at his funeral to check he is actually dead. 😅
hmm...will we ever talk about the fact that Meredith also does not talk to her other sister Molly. Does she talk to Derek's sisters, you know, her children's aunts. Seriously writers!
She has close relation with amelia and with the one who gave derek her nerve so we could assume she does even if not derek didn't either. He always kept himself at distance from his sisters
Why would she ever talk to molly? Derek’s sisters were never there before so why would they now
@@thundercookie1014 molly is her other sister, so it's odd she has never contacted her.
Also Thatcher did try a few times...just sayin. I mean I'm not a Thatcher fan by any means but he definitely did try to reach out to her more than she did to him.
All true. It is just the fact that Meredith forgets to mention that she has another sister,. I mean Molly also lost Lexie...@@christophernehls5356
Didn’t someone call her dad to find out where Mer was after Derek died and she just took off. Why would anyone call him if they weren’t in contact and he hadn’t been at the funeral? How would they even have his number? It seems a bit weird to mention him specifically back then and now just say they never had contact. This doesn’t feel like a well thought out story line at all.
Because they were worried and couldn't reach her and when you're worried you call anyone and everyone.
They didn’t know where she was so they tried everyone and everywhere they could think.
E Visser thatcher was at the funeral but no one saw him- including mer
okay I have a few problems with this but the main one is comparing Thatcher to Jackson's dad,umm no, like him or not Thatcher has tried multiple times to be there for Meredith but he just gave up I guess because she definitely wasn't interested although I thought the last episode he was in they had an ok relationship? weird.
Apparently he didn’t try to get to know Meredith after the kindey stone
It's not a competition, Meredith's dad was not there for her, he wasn't a father to her and instead chose to be a father to his other 2 daughters. He chose not to stay in touch with her up until Idk when and so to her it's kinda a comparable situation. She also did not say that her dad was as bad as Jackson's, she just said they both have horrible father's.
Nienke Galis very true, my opinion has since changed on this actually
@@christophernehls5356 oh, OK I just wanted to let you know my opinion but it's good that you agree with me.
He never tried, Susan tried to get them to have a relationship then she died and thatcher slapped Meredith. Then she gave the ass a piece of her Liver. He never tried and now he is dying. She has -10 emotional attachment towards him.
I think she is more affected inside and out when lexie and dereck died, while with his father he is clueless how to react...
Love the song! Nilu
I wanna know meredith in real life
I've never quite understood the Thatcher hate. Didn't big Ellis essentially just take Meredith away from him. He could have dealt with their reunion better but by then she had decided that she hated him also his wife died shortly afterwards and he was rather upset. It doesn't seem as though Ellis offered him contact that he refused. He doesn't seem like a deadbeat to me.
It wasn't just that, they reconnected during the show and when thatchers wife died he blamed Meredith and slapped her across the face. It's not that he's a deadbeat, its that he's an awful person and an alcoholic
There's no indication he even tried to get access to her or even visits. I'm sure Ellis made it difficult but any court would have given him at least visits. And then when she became an adult he had many many years to make an effort. She even opened the door for him, more than once. Even then he didn't. And was actively nasty to her some of the time. But mostly just ignored her.
I love Jackson and Maggie 2gthr
She’s so flippant about everyone who died.
She does not have a close relationship with her dad which is his fault.
I think she has to detach from it to cope
It takes her some time but she always comes around to consider him her father but he never tries
Zauraise Azhar he did but gave up cuz she wouldn’t let him in.
She has never been good with emotions like that. Doesn't help the people she loves keep dying/ leaving her behind. Her mother, her step mother, Mark, Lexie, Derek all dead. Christina and now Alex gone, not dead but just not in her life. Not her people. Maggie she doesn't really have the history with, in some ways she is too bright and innocent and Amelia is just as messed up as Meredith. She has her own issues. So Meredith hides behind the doctor mask when talking about those who died.
Is this me, or deluca do actually look like Derek esp from the back and side portion...bcs in starting of the scene when he turned on side for sec I thought Derek is back..
Poor Jackson.
Where are the Filipino Nurses?
What's the song please???
Finally discovered it, Nilu - Hummingbird
Wtf is this song please
what is the song that sounds in the minute 1:08?
It's time for Grey's finale.....it's just getting boring...
Vivian Walter speak for yourself
NO
then don't watch it. Simple. Last time I checked, if Ellen Pompeo wants to leave the show, that's when the show will end according to both Pompeo and Shonda. You don't get to decide whether it's time for the show to end. That's up to Shonda and Ellen.
Yo... I feel so bad for Molly
She's the worst in this situation.
Milena P. Ikr
Why?!
i hate maggie