Mindscape 194 | Frans de Waal on Culture and Gender in Primates

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
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    Humans are related to all other species here on Earth, but some are closer relatives than others. Primates, a group that includes apes, monkeys, lemurs, and others besides ourselves, are our closest relatives, and they exhibit a wide variety of behaviors that we can easily recognize. Frans de Waal is a leading primatologist and ethologist who has long studied cognition and collective behaviors in chimps, bonobos, and other species. His work has established the presence of politics, morality, and empathy in primates. His new book is Different: Gender Through the Eyes of a Primatologist.
    Frans de Waal received his Ph.D. in biology from Utrecht University. He is currently Charles Howard Candler Professor of Primate Behavior in the Department of Psychology at Emory University and director of the Living Links Center at the Yerkes National Primate Research Center. He is a member of the National Academy of Sciences, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and the American Philosophical Society. Among his awards are the Knight of the order of the Netherlands Lion, the Galileo Prize, ASP Distinguished Primatologist, and the PEN/EO Wilson Literary Science Writing Award, not to mention an Ig Nobel Prize.
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Комментарии • 35

  • @aprylvanryn5898
    @aprylvanryn5898 2 года назад +14

    Everything you do is interesting but this is especially fascinating. I didn't know much of the information presented. Thanks for this

  • @107cdb
    @107cdb 2 года назад +9

    My Monday just improved significantly

  • @LEDewey_MD
    @LEDewey_MD 2 года назад +8

    What a thoughtful and thought provoking episode!

  • @jpick319
    @jpick319 2 года назад +4

    Captivating conversation on a fascinating topic. Thank you Dr Carroll.

  • @germalganis
    @germalganis 2 года назад +9

    A beautiful interview.

  • @peterz53
    @peterz53 2 года назад +4

    at about 47 min, on repurposing empathy and other behaviors, I think it was Neil Shubin who mentioned that genes are repurposed, or maybe parts of the genome, as it is more efficient to re-use parts of the genome than have to evolve the needed machinery from scratch, assuming that could be done to get to the same endpoint.

  • @larryparis925
    @larryparis925 Год назад

    What an amazing episode. So many great questions by Prof. Carroll (how does he come up with so many relevant questions in areas that are not in his field??!!), with clear and to-the-point explanations by de Waal. This is so well done. One of my favorite Mindscape episodes.

  • @existentialbaby
    @existentialbaby 2 года назад +6

    Sean You're just awesome. Thank you for doing this. You're very open minded and a kind hearted person.

  • @origins7298
    @origins7298 2 года назад +4

    Great episode! Brilliant conversation!!

  • @cjiscurrentlyonline
    @cjiscurrentlyonline 2 года назад +4

    Always fascinating listening to Dr. de Waal

  • @myczycz
    @myczycz Год назад

    It's so refreshing to hear an ethology expert say that behaviour and gender roles come from both genes and socialization, and it's very hard to measure the role of these factors. I'm so tired of people assuming that science has already figured it out and it's either all nature or all nurture - depending who you ask. Thank you for this interview!

  • @peterz53
    @peterz53 2 года назад +2

    Great guest and discussion. I especially liked Prof. de Waal's closing remarks.

  • @gsilcoful
    @gsilcoful 2 года назад +4

    Wonderful interview.

  • @Neomadra
    @Neomadra 2 года назад +2

    Amazing Podcast. This was so interesting

  • @chasespell7293
    @chasespell7293 2 года назад +2

    Great pod, thanks.

  • @penguinista
    @penguinista 2 года назад +2

    Fascinating! Thank you.

  • @existentialbaby
    @existentialbaby 2 года назад +4

    Physicist with a Biologist. :)) Perfection.

  • @ch3rrywave
    @ch3rrywave 2 месяца назад +1

    RIP Frans

  • @primus4cameron
    @primus4cameron 2 года назад +3

    At 56:09 de Waal answers a question regarding emotions and mentions the book 'Mama's Last Hug'.
    Mama's last hug ruclips.net/video/INa-oOAexno/видео.html was, indeed, emotional.

  • @johnnyringo7928
    @johnnyringo7928 2 года назад +4

    Excellent👏

  • @AlanWil2
    @AlanWil2 2 года назад +2

    Awesome!!!

  • @adelongis
    @adelongis 2 года назад +1

    Sean is asking if there are individual differences among chimpanzees - not about Inter species differences. A very different question.

  • @roxee57
    @roxee57 2 года назад +1

    There’s a lot of post menopausal women looking out for the interests of their metaphorical daughters and their female offspring by trying to make sure the culture doesn’t approve of males taking over their collective spaces or cutting up their children. It’s amazing how one can interpret why we behave as we do.

  • @gillesheybroek5508
    @gillesheybroek5508 2 года назад

    Frans sounds exactly like Max Verstappen😂

  • @sunroad7228
    @sunroad7228 2 года назад +1

    All Knowledge produced during the fossil fuels age - should be revisited - post the age - to separate what social engineering was in it from Knowledge:
    "In Any System of Energy, Control is What Consumes Energy the Most."
    Wailing.

  • @joshua3171
    @joshua3171 2 года назад +7

    Wait until the evangelists find out about the bobos

    • @joshua3171
      @joshua3171 2 года назад +1

      Bonbos

    • @agimasoschandir
      @agimasoschandir 2 года назад +6

      @@joshua3171 bonobos

    • @joshua3171
      @joshua3171 2 года назад

      Wonder if autism has a play in this for humans intolerance

    • @existentialbaby
      @existentialbaby 2 года назад

      @@joshua3171 don't worry brother we just try and learn and move on :) have a happy time

    • @TransformersNibbasInDisguise54
      @TransformersNibbasInDisguise54 2 года назад

      I'm an atheist and realistically speaking the chimps are FAR more successful for a reason. Being patriarchal and more intelligent is far more genetically advantageous than what bonobos do. It works in an isolated area with very little competition and an abundance of fruits but patriarchy and violence are the default for a reason.