Found you yesterday and I cannot get enough of your video. This is a topic that I've been interested in since I was in high school thank you so much for making your information available to the public for free!
Enjoyable lecture. Seems like religions go through this ebb and flow over time, between highly structured, quasi-political, ossified organization and dynamic, highly personal spiritual experiences.
Your presentation is wonderfully lush, and as always with these investigations into nearly-impenetrable mysteries, of the deepest intrigue. Thank you.🙏
As music has been described as organized noise...I feel your description of 'structured madness' to suppose what may have happened at the mysteries quite compelling Just found your channel ❤✌
You can also find this in the Gardnerian and Alexandrian traditions of witchcraft. Today those would be the closest one gets to a mystery cult. With having initiations, secret and sacred names of the gods and goddesses used in the traditions. In the craft it is very similar to the rites and rituals of the ancient mysteries. You will also find it with things like Freemasonry, and mystical Kabbalah, and the Hermetic Order of the Golden dawn, which all took the “esoteric” traits of these cults.
amazing video! some words are a bit hard to understand, it would help out a lot if you posted the script in the description or on your blog! loving your channel man, keep up the goodwork!
Apparently the island of Samothrace was also home to a well known Hellenistic mystery cult attended by some famous figures (Herodotus being one). If anyone knows the "Winged Victory" statue at the Louvre, it was actually excavated from the the site of these rites. From what I've read it seems like Demeter and Persephone might have been worshiped there as well, but there's some conflicting evidence of other deities ascribed to it. Might be a result of all this religious syncretism Dan discussed. If you can ever visit the island, it's a place that still has a mystical (and psychedelic) reputation today.
It's true, the Samothracian Mysteries, which I always assumed was very similar in content to Eleusis. I always did wonder how that statue fit into everything. Funny how so much of our modern conception of angels comes from Hellenism rather than the wheeled and many eyed ophanim of Judaism.
Samothrace was probably the place were few mystery cults met and syncretised, Thracian proto-dionisyan/orphic cults, anatolian mysteries of Kybele and Cabiri/Coribantes with atthic eleusinian rites.
@@TheModernHermeticist It is EXTREMELY well researched and sheds an entirely new light on the true extent and expanse of the practice of the mysteries outside of Eleusis and raises questions regarding possible "missionary" type spreading of initiation into The Mysteries far beyond the Mediterranean. I highly recommend it. I think you would appreciate the content as it's not "just a casual read" rather borders on higher scholarly study. Awesome video btw. Very well presented. Thank you
@@TheModernHermeticist I thought so too, because I am very familiar with the material. But Muraresku ties it together in a way that is a genuine advance in the field. The research is up to the minute, because it appears that the gatekeepers [The Vatican, The Louvre] believe the popular culture is now post-Christian enough to receive information they have been sitting on for generations. They are releasing a lot of what they have now. I listened to it as an audio book that the author narrated. Your documentary is focused on Eleusis alone, unlike Brian's book. It is an absolutely gorgeous presentation! Thank you!
I'm a contemporary artist. Still to this day, I feel terribly sad that I went through my university art education without any initiation. Without surprise, I find my work community, art institution, and college working a very dry and logical art. Hopefully there was a psychedelic festival that did the job but it wasn't meant that way. I feel that meaning, conscious and benevolent willing action to go through the gate would deploy artistic capabilities and moreover resort the seer function we are natural too.
Trying investigating the Initiatory rites of Orpheus. Better fit for an artist, just less hard information. Start with the basic Orphic myth and you will see what I mean.
@@djcorvette8375 in some way you are right ( beatles,summer of LOVE ,mk ultra etc ) , by the other hand you have humanity using plants to induce altered state before " history" started
There is a theory that primitive man speeded up his cognitive maturity or evolution by discovering edible mushrooms, he began to have a sense of self and it was a mind expanding experience such that the mind matured from more of a primitive brain to what some of us have today
So I was stoked to see this, as I've been reading The Immortality Key by Brian Muraresku. Last night I listened to the latest video on the Esoterica channel on Pythagoras and Parmenides, and the description of the Proem of Parmenides brings to mind what one might potentially experience when meeting the goddess at Eleusis. It also brought to mind the myth of Er. Just some thoughts
@@TheModernHermeticist I hope you do, it's so rarely discussed. I feel it's an important part of Plato's teachings that deserves more attention and investigation, along with Cratylus. Thank you for your amazing content 👏👏👏
Thank you kindly. I debated putting in music, but for as many people who want it, there are many people who get upset by it, so I opted not to use any this time around.
Very good, as always! :) I was hoping you'd say something about the papyrus from Tebtynis that Kerényi discusses in his book on Eleusis, and how it details Herakles' words at the Eleusinian Mysteries as potentially being of some clue to the "things said" on that occasion.
@@TheModernHermeticist I mis you, too! I can't believe it's been a year-and-a-half since the last 'Zoo, and how very important indeed it is to make that in-perosn connection at least annually for my own sense of well-being! I hope your Christmas was good--mine was all right under the circumstances--and that we can speak further soon in some form or another! :)
The ´hallucinations’ was each initiate’s inner fears , inner demons coming out for them to acknowledge and overcome. Tormenting the initiate until it broke down the ego (ego death) .. in other words, it broke down all that is false in the person in order for them to « see » truth. Enlightenment. Without psychedelics, it would take humanity frigging forever before coming to reason and self realization. Like the world today 🙄
Are you familiar with David Wiles work on ancient Greek theatre? He also discusses the mysteries and seems to have some fairly clear ideas of some of what went on.
Fantastic presentation! Thank you for the sources! - Just one little piece of criticism about the video: the pause between images and voice is sometimes a little distracting.
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oh man I'm completely infuriated with the eleusinian mysteries. And you always hear so many different theories and you never know what to believe. I can recommend Dr Hoellers speech about it
Amazing summary of mystery religions. I find it all an inspiration for Christianity, Hermeticism, and Freemasonry. Given that the mystery initiations were purification rituals and initiates sought salvation through them, since knowledge was viewed as sin. Sacrifices were made because the gods were angry at the knowledge man acquired such as farming and technology seen as deviation from natural law, given by other god/s Mithraic in nature, and so Famines and storms were seen as manifestations of their wrath. To appease the Gods, sacrifices of cattle and humans were made to ensure good harvests. However if a god associated with knowledge was sacrificed, then that could be considered a permanent sacrifice that ensured permanent salvation to initiates who underwent the same trials as those gods in purification, initiation rituals. Christianity amended these mystery rites by making the entire life of the only begotten Son of the almighty God live a life a lifelong initiation ritual for all mankind and salvation was then reduced to merely believing in that Son of God and then initiation is reduced to a mere baptism of water. And anyone can do it.
If you're educated on the occult then you can extrapolate what the point was. The Eleusinian mysteries were rituals designed to inspire a certain psychedelic experience that would reinforce an early Gnostic ideology within the pagan world. Persephone would serve as what would become the Gnostic character of Sophia. They were teaching initiates that our reality is a dream or more accurately to their eye... a nightmare, born of Persephone's need to distract herself from the suffering of her time with her captor husband hades who would become the Gnostic character of the Demiurge. This is an ideological system designed to make an individual deny a shared reality of any kind and therefore "free" themselves from any moral constraints so they may do whatever is necessary to increase their wealth and power in service of distracting themselves from their own suffering until the freedom of death takes them. Their gnosis would then carry them through their successive rejection of any "false" offers of a good afterlife the gods or the demiurge may offer them so they return to the blissful, black, nothingness that is as they would teach you, your "true self". The uniting of Persephone and Demeter is to state that we are all projections of Persephone and therefore Persephone herself in the sense that we are in a state where we do not yet know how to escape our prison, making the goal of this world to learn this truth and escape to rejoin the gods in paradise. The pantheon of pagan gods, which originally would serve as symbols for the parts of the collective human psyche would eventually become the amalgamated gnostic concept of the Monad. Its all just to put a sense of symbolic character over "nothingness" itself which is what the goddess refers to in occult circles today. The point of the teaching is that existence itself is a mistake of the collective self and this world only exists as a net for the impulse to create and salvation comes through electing to return to nothingness in death where suffering and consequence can never come to be experienced again. If you are of a Christian sentiment this should be looked at as an ideology of the devil. Eastern teachings have similar views and often include elements of enlightened figures returning to creation to help free beings of what is referred to in Kabballah as fragments of the Godsoul. These varying perspectives also tend to agree that the "experience" of eternal nothingness is an infinite orgasm and to introduce any context, setting or narrative to eternity is to introduce suffering and therefore to commit error.
It's going great, I'm about a year out from being done though its floating at about 350 pages. I need to edit some of it down and sometimes it feels like I'm sawing off a limb.
@@TheModernHermeticist I'll show you where this might be coming from, because all the symbolism is there, many can see its link to Taurus and the 7 Sisters, it is quite sexual, as you see the horn of Taurus is seen as a penis, Taurus in known as the Throat, and the horn is a symbol of the rays of the Sun, it will be consumed by Geb/Gaia, the Virgin Earth, as you know 'vir' is Latin for Man and 'gyne' is Greek for Woman, together they form Virgin a Man/Woman, and in the Heavens it is Virgo, which the words "Boy/Girl" played backwards says "Virgo" In late November is when Taurus drops below the Horizon, Now the Ray of the Sun was Just Swallowed by Geb/Gaia, seen in the Western horizon, but on the Eastern horizon, you find the Sun in the Claws of the Scorpion, which Scorpio is the Sexual Organ, and Sagittarius the Hips & Thighs, making that Cave Shaped constellation of Ophiuchus the Mountainous Womb of the Goddess. Lets go back to the other Horizon, this is where the Hands of the Goddess is Fashioning the missing Part of Osiris (14), he holds it up high between Gemini the Hands and the Throat Taurus, Cut from below his Belt, setting Free Hatsya, that bright star at the tip, at Northern latitudes find it plowing the Horizon as the Sun inters Ophiuchus, Now the Rebirth of the Christ Child, but Not until 6,606 hours later, 9 Months 7 hours, placing the date around September 8th, the birthday of Mary, the Mother of Christ. 7 Sisters, 7 main stars form Orion, the 8th is spread over the horizon, and the 7 main stars of Ophiuchus, as the plow star of Orion is on the Horizon, puts Alula at Midheaven, it means "First Born" it is the Thumb of a bird wing, 7 hours later all 3 paws of the Great Bear Ursa, and Uras was the Mountainous wife of the Sky god Anu, it Means Standing Serpent, you know what that means, well 7 hours later all her paws are on the horizon, 7 hours later she take a break, and sits down on her Sagittarius, before spinning back off towards Sagittarius, This should be enough, if you like I could show you more, but run the chance that TY will delete it, they may not even like me showing you this, I never know what comment they delete next
The reason that Hercules was "excluded" wasn't that "he didn't speak greek". Yes the mysteries weren't available for non-greek speakers, because they wouldn't be able to understand the process. Hercules had committed murder - the mysteries were also excluding people who had committed murder. However because he was a hero, they found a way through: the lesser mysteries, where he would become purified. That's actually the lesser mysteries origin.
@@CHITOWNDEECON1 That would seem to suggest humans follow Lamarckian evolution and not Darwinian. Sounds a bit out-there. Unless you think we've been using psychedelics as a species over such a vast amount of time that through Darwinian evolution we changed. Truth is we dont know yet. (Lamarckian evolution is basically: That which you do in your life, shapes you and not your surroundings)
22:50 Good insight, universalism is the twin of individualism as they have a similar isolating effect. Naturally there isn't a universal bird that flocks together but instead many types of birds surviving within their own systems that may interconnect. It is against nature and Borg-like to assimilate everyone into a universal collective (see New Jerusalem cube). 🕋 Speculating, but it seems to me that these mystery schools also branched into global religions or types of universalist thought (aka Marxism) and then conquered diverse peoples by pulling them out of their ethnic faiths. If the etymology of Catholicism means universal or 'the whole', than we can see why it would wish to convert or eliminate the pagans which was ethnic (part of the definition in older dictionaries). So even the word nation comes from a biological grouping or 'natal' = of or relating to birth. The word gentile is derived from the Latin gens or gentilis (same ancestor, genes, geneology). Maybe mystery schools were a kind of parasitic mind control recipe & networking to conquer the Earth. "For the Lord your God will bless you, as he promised you, and you shall LEND TO many nations, but you shall not borrow, and you shall RULE OVER many nations, but they shall not rule over you." - Deuteronomy 15:6
My take. The process of embedding is that old putting a bit of the old away to have it ready for the new. I think where ever this was done, the moldy ergot on rye or barley or any grain was used as a ritualistic symbol of time, and the hallucinogens were a simultaneous and not computed factor, back to our pre-human evolution.. In Salem, it was an accident. Same result in a conservative pilgrim Christian setting = The Devil.
@@thyhandrevolve If you google "sculpture veiled goddess Eleusinian" it pops up immediately. In this link you can click on "I" on the left panel, that should help you out. Cyrene: Persephone, Greek Goddess of the Underworld; Museum of Ancient Sculpture In Greek mythology, Persephone, daughter of the fertility goddess Demeter, was abducted to the underworld by Hades but was allowed to return for part of the year, when the earth became fruitful. She is often depicted, as here, drawing a veil across her face, indicating her time on earth is ending and she is returning to the underworld, when the earth once again becomes barren. www.normpowersphotography.com/Travel/Libya/i-KJDZrvP
As much as I love and appreciate these videos they are purely academic and serve no purpose without practical applications. I would love to see a guide to practical hermeticism.
If you could understand the importance of historic cycles and the drama of the cataclysms that connect them, you would have the secret of the scriptures, myths and mysteries. All will be revealed in the next (accelerated) three years.
I like how you mentioned about the blind man seeing might have been allegorical to seeing with his inner eye. I heard somewhere that on psychedelics, people who are color blind can see colors they’ve never been able to see. I wonder how psychedelics effect those who are blind?
their visual experience would be off as usual I guess, the other senses would have a wild feast though. Also, on some stronger psychodelics you can temporarily lose sight as it's basically useless for the state you're in. but then you use your imagination, which is full of internal(?) symbolism - which in turn draws from what you see - and here the question begins
Yeh, they focus on Archaic Roman religion from the early days before Hellenization, and then the last 2 chapters are about the restoration under Augustus.
I believe that he divulged may be some "recipe" which shouldnt be used without Mystagogue and sacred ceremony, but he could not really tell how it is, to be God, to be all at once.
Sad fact that we don't know the mysteries so nothing can be divulged. Seems odd that no one wrote down or passed on the mysteries so they could be preserved forever, just as the Gnostic gospels were written down and hidden in caves.
Going down into Hades to have another part of your life on the other side. Very similar to how the Egyptians prepared for their journey thru the Underworld in order to have another part of their life on the other side. This reminds me of phrases like "gotta go with the flow" and "take a leap of faith". Isn't there another that goes something like, "you gotta go thru Hell to get to Heaven*"? If there is then that would probably sum up the message best. * from my understanding, Heaven is a "realm" called the Empyrean. This realm is above all the others and it is where only our true Spirit bodies can go. From this realm a Spirit can walk from one place like this to another and be allowed in only once the Spirit's frequency is strong enough to handle the frequency of the galaxy's plane of Inertia you're wanting to go into. The higher up the frequency "chart" the Spirit is, the earlier into that places creation the Spirit can handle being in. The earlier the Spirit can come in, the more it can remain itself and less like how the Spirit does things with these hard light bodies of ours now and days. The frequencies collected would be vibrantly stronger and more pure, with less impure background frequencies like what we have flooding through our cities now and days to block them. I'm gonna stop there before I start getting long winded. Any one still reading, if you're interested and have a "why such and such?" then I'd be happy to go into this further.
I did two talks more or less on this subject at the end of the first part of Encyclopedia Hermetica (in the episodes called Katabasis and Anabasis), they could potentially be worth your while if you're interested in the businesses of 'going down'/'going up.'
@Gavin D I have a couple times in a few different ways. In the Empyrean, which was like a waking dream, I as Jake Letzler the soul (resonance retriever) hadn't been born yet. I was re-living what my Spirit Light Body had seen and heard on it's way to and at the place in that realm where the Spirit can enter into Earth, all the way up to jumping into the massive whirlpool leading down into here. Another time, I was very young and naive yet I used to be able to fly to normally unreachable dreamscapes. This ONE time I ended up in a white hallway with a window looking in to the realm I wanted to go into. This white bearded old man came in and wanted to teach me how to get back there but I was too in a hurry to get passed that window, which I eventually did. That realm I went into was like embryonic fluid but once I let it fill my lungs I could swim onward just fine. So much happened but it takes a long time to write...and read. The reason I give these two times so much validity is because during both occasions, even though there's nearly 34 years between the two and one was a sleeping dream while the other happened while awake, there was a 30+ something female and a 15+ male counterpart. And the female is the one "in charge" at both places. In both their cases I believe the pairs both started out as one androgynous being. It's as if they portray themselves in whatever forms/state of mass "OuR" bodies are currently in. Not because they want to but because they are tied to us for as long as we're here, and have to represent us in body styles and this splitting off genders whether they like it or not. In both cases however, both pairs seemed about as high up the workforce chain for this amusement park we call the Earth as "a" Being(s) can get. Perception is key in this place. Which is why it's been thrown all out of wack. Iv'e found a pretty easy way to think about how this place called Earth works in the ways that are not seen. The AUM is the Galaxy's point source sound resonance. As this sound progresses outward it develops it's octaves. These octaves are then themselves dimensions. When we are awake we experience all these different dimensional octaves at the same time, which creates our shared reality. But when we dream I think we can travel into them individually, but only if we can sense/"hear" them. If we cannot for some reason sense/hear a certain sound or octave of such then we'd never know there is such a place to go to, and if you did you still wouldn't be able to locate the place. In the place you want to get back to, try to remember it's sound. Mimic whatever that sound may be whether a buzzing, static, crystal, chime, etc. If you can hum it or duplicate it with something before you go to bed then your body will eventually "fall into tune" with it and you then may very well just suddenly find yourself where you're wanting to be as you dream without even ever having to waste time getting there. (all is AtUM, all is a-tune, but the Creator of ALL is atom...meaning that particular God works with the first two all"s... point source and octave's of point source). Sound, vibration, frequency = energy-(or loss of), pressure and matter. (For it to come into existence it must first be "spoken", so to speak) One last hail-mary would be if you're coherent enough while dreaming, chose to walk away from it. Whatever is going on in that dream, walk straight away from that spot while thinking about the place you want to end up at. After walking for about 200 feet or so you should find yourself walking thru an invisible "doorway/portal" right into another place. Hopefully the place you want to be at. LoL, I took a lot of shortcuts to try to keep this message short but I have a feeling you're far enough along to understand much of what I wrote. As you can see I don't have a problem spending time talking like this so if there's ever anything you would like me to further add into, just let me know. Good luck.
@Gavin D , that place you describe sounds like the mid Heaven type place that is first talked about in an old story called The Divine Comedy (Dante's Inferno) written by Dante Alighieri. The story is about a living man guided thru "Hell" by an Angel in order get to the Impyrean above. (Go down to get up). Basically the journey takes place within the toroidal field of this place. The same one my Spirit jumped into so I could be here for awhile.. They start here on Earth by going down the hourglass center of it where they meet people whom had died on Earth, now living in a place most would consider as Heaven in that vast "bit" of counterspace. After that they keep treking downward thru the different levels of Hell then climb up around the outside of the toroidal hourglass section they had originally come in thru the center of, until reaching the Empyrean. Please understand that when I had my waking vision there, I had never once heard of that place until a few month's later. Yet I saw it very much how it is described to be by the Ancients. I hope you can quickly find yourself at that place you want to be at again. A year and a half ago, were you watching a specific show before bed? Was there a specific song you listened to a lot back then? Sometimes those things can make you resonate at specific frequencies before you fall asleep. The last thing would be, if you've moved to a different spot of the world since it stopped...but I think the area would have less to do with it than your body's frequency before bed does.
Mr Modern Hermeticist, did you ever play videogames in your youth? I always wondered if the whole "Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time" was also some sort of initiation into some sort of mystery cult. The little figures show you their tokens, at some point you get into the "chamber of sages" and the "sacred realm". These videogames (from that time especially) seem to have been highly influneced by certain freemason groups. If we go by the procedure set you listed "The things that are said" "the things that are shown" The things you're doing" then videogames are what will now replace the education that mysteries as the on of Eleusis contained. Would you agree?
The true initiation is when you clip through the walls or fall through the floor of the temple of time and end up in some white void outside of time and space. It's weird when it happens in game, but perhaps it can prepare you for when far weirder things happens "in real life"
Carina is the Constellation that is the ship. Carina is also in our trachea that Divides the left and Right. Also in the Bladder there is a Carina, not to mention Covid ventilators. Shamans and I believe these Mystery cults took Mushrooms and shamans would give their Urine to their tribes people.
Aside from general Shinto influence, I recommend watching Good Blood's video, "A Masterpiece in Subtext" regarding Ocarina of Time. Rather than an initiation, it is more like an anti-initiation sacrifice ritual.
A game like ocarina of time can open imagination into such things. But at some point you have to eat a handful of mushrooms and spend an odd night in the woods if you want to take things a step further.
2.30 why is the person sittin on a log, with his hood up, getting his 2 fingers burned with his right foot on a rams head?! We will never get this back!
@@fragiro7350 Each God or Goddess has different names depending on the type of cult. Kore which means "Maiden" is her name as the Goddess of Spring. The Eleusinian Mysteries is a cult of her when she is Persephone, Queen of the Dead.
Found you yesterday and I cannot get enough of your video. This is a topic that I've been interested in since I was in high school thank you so much for making your information available to the public for free!
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Been looking for this video for 50 years. Thank you, sir.
🙏🏻 outstanding work.
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Staggeringly informative, gorgeously illustrated with phenomenal images. Thank you, well done!
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Happy new year Dan. Your work on the encyclopedia blows my mind! Amazing, beautiful mind. Thank you. Namaste ✌🏼💫🏴
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Very informative yet completely unrevealing at the same time. Thank you for your diligent work!
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed the paradox of the mysteries. For as much as we know, we know so little.
Enjoyable lecture. Seems like religions go through this ebb and flow over time, between highly structured, quasi-political, ossified organization and dynamic, highly personal spiritual experiences.
Orthodoxy inspires heresy, heresy inspires new orthodoxy, new orthodoxy inspires new heresy
Still putting out the best occult content in the world I see! All your work is great Brother. Best wishes til we speak again. 🥰🖤🙏
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Your presentation is wonderfully lush, and as always with these investigations into nearly-impenetrable mysteries, of the deepest intrigue. Thank you.🙏
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As music has been described as organized noise...I feel your description of 'structured madness' to suppose what may have happened at the mysteries quite compelling
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This video already makes 2021 10000x better than 2020 was, thank you 🙏
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Love your work!!! Absolutely phenomenal.... thank you so much Dan🙏🏻❤🏴
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You can also find this in the Gardnerian and Alexandrian traditions of witchcraft. Today those would be the closest one gets to a mystery cult. With having initiations, secret and sacred names of the gods and goddesses used in the traditions. In the craft it is very similar to the rites and rituals of the ancient mysteries. You will also find it with things like Freemasonry, and mystical Kabbalah, and the Hermetic Order of the Golden dawn, which all took the “esoteric” traits of these cults.
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Happy new year!
I especially enjoyed he artworks chosen to support your presentation .
amazing video! some words are a bit hard to understand, it would help out a lot if you posted the script in the description or on your blog! loving your channel man, keep up the goodwork!
I just found your channel and want to thank you for this very well done video!
glad you enjoyed it!
Apparently the island of Samothrace was also home to a well known Hellenistic mystery cult attended by some famous figures (Herodotus being one). If anyone knows the "Winged Victory" statue at the Louvre, it was actually excavated from the the site of these rites. From what I've read it seems like Demeter and Persephone might have been worshiped there as well, but there's some conflicting evidence of other deities ascribed to it. Might be a result of all this religious syncretism Dan discussed. If you can ever visit the island, it's a place that still has a mystical (and psychedelic) reputation today.
It's true, the Samothracian Mysteries, which I always assumed was very similar in content to Eleusis. I always did wonder how that statue fit into everything. Funny how so much of our modern conception of angels comes from Hellenism rather than the wheeled and many eyed ophanim of Judaism.
Samothraki is a well known camping and tripping place to this day
Samothrace was probably the place were few mystery cults met and syncretised, Thracian proto-dionisyan/orphic cults, anatolian mysteries of Kybele and Cabiri/Coribantes with atthic eleusinian rites.
It’s said that the legendary Thracian king Eumolpus received the knowledge of the mysteries directly from Demeter.
This is truly priceless. Excellent, as usual.
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Hello friend, good to hear your voice again!
Welcome back! Nice to see you back around these parts!
Superb. As ever, many thanks for all your work.
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Dan, have you read the Immortality Key by Brian Muraresku?
I have looked at it very briefly, but not in depth. From what I gather, I think I've read a good deal of the material he cites.
@@TheModernHermeticist It is EXTREMELY well researched and sheds an entirely new light on the true extent and expanse of the practice of the mysteries outside of Eleusis and raises questions regarding possible "missionary" type spreading of initiation into The Mysteries far beyond the Mediterranean. I highly recommend it. I think you would appreciate the content as it's not "just a casual read" rather borders on higher scholarly study. Awesome video btw. Very well presented. Thank you
@@TheModernHermeticist I thought so too, because I am very familiar with the material. But Muraresku ties it together in a way that is a genuine advance in the field. The research is up to the minute, because it appears that the gatekeepers [The Vatican, The Louvre] believe the popular culture is now post-Christian enough to receive information they have been sitting on for generations. They are releasing a lot of what they have now. I listened to it as an audio book that the author narrated. Your documentary is focused on Eleusis alone, unlike Brian's book. It is an absolutely gorgeous presentation! Thank you!
@@TheModernHermeticist Just found your channel and subbed. Highly recommend you give the book a thorough read, though. Thanks for the video!
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I'm a contemporary artist. Still to this day, I feel terribly sad that I went through my university art education without any initiation.
Without surprise, I find my work community, art institution, and college working a very dry and logical art. Hopefully there was a psychedelic festival that did the job but it wasn't meant that way. I feel that meaning, conscious and benevolent willing action to go through the gate would deploy artistic capabilities and moreover resort the seer function we are natural too.
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@@fragiro7350 yes, i made my own katabasis, but I'm rooting for a whole culture that has the depth of feeling for initiate artist. Thx
Trying investigating the Initiatory rites of Orpheus. Better fit for an artist, just less hard information. Start with the basic Orphic myth and you will see what I mean.
Preach 🙌
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Maybe not the myth to recommend considering how it ends.
just wanted to say sounds good with crusader kings music in the background and thanks for reuploading this. probably never would have seen it
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beautifully articulated presentation.
Back when the ancients understood the vital relationship between humans and psychedelics.
We can too. All answers to our questions are with in. No need for.anything else
the elite alwways knew, is us the masses who are negated this knowledge
there is no vital relationship between humans and psychedelics. that's a myth promoted by the intelligence agencies and social engineers
@@djcorvette8375 in some way you are right ( beatles,summer of LOVE ,mk ultra etc ) , by the other hand you have humanity using plants to induce altered state before " history" started
There is a theory that primitive man speeded up his cognitive maturity or evolution by discovering edible mushrooms, he began to have a sense of self and it was a mind expanding experience such that the mind matured from more of a primitive brain to what some of us have today
Wonderful. Much enjoyed. Very well expressed. Thank you
Many thanks for watching.
So I was stoked to see this, as I've been reading The Immortality Key by Brian Muraresku. Last night I listened to the latest video on the Esoterica channel on Pythagoras and Parmenides, and the description of the Proem of Parmenides brings to mind what one might potentially experience when meeting the goddess at Eleusis. It also brought to mind the myth of Er. Just some thoughts
I'm thinking of making a video on the myth of er.
@@TheModernHermeticist I hope you do, it's so rarely discussed. I feel it's an important part of Plato's teachings that deserves more attention and investigation, along with Cratylus. Thank you for your amazing content 👏👏👏
Amazing presentation. Background ambient music might give it a beautiful finish. Thanks for your channel.
Thank you kindly. I debated putting in music, but for as many people who want it, there are many people who get upset by it, so I opted not to use any this time around.
@@TheModernHermeticist you should put suggested companion music somewhere.
Just what i needed, thank you, Happy New Year Dan!
Happy new year Ollie!
Very informative, I really like the way you presented this - thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Very good, as always! :)
I was hoping you'd say something about the papyrus from Tebtynis that Kerényi discusses in his book on Eleusis, and how it details Herakles' words at the Eleusinian Mysteries as potentially being of some clue to the "things said" on that occasion.
Dr. Phil! I miss you! Hope you are well!!!
@@TheModernHermeticist I mis you, too! I can't believe it's been a year-and-a-half since the last 'Zoo, and how very important indeed it is to make that in-perosn connection at least annually for my own sense of well-being! I hope your Christmas was good--mine was all right under the circumstances--and that we can speak further soon in some form or another! :)
The ´hallucinations’ was each initiate’s inner fears , inner demons coming out for them to acknowledge and overcome. Tormenting the initiate until it broke down the ego (ego death) .. in other words, it broke down all that is false in the person in order for them to « see » truth. Enlightenment. Without psychedelics, it would take humanity frigging forever before coming to reason and self realization. Like the world today 🙄
Maaaa boiiii. Thanks for this bro much much appreciated. Keep that secret society info coming
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Happy New Year! Thank you so much!
Happy new year!
Thanks for including references!
You bet.
you're a fuckin real one for uploading the references! doing my dissertation on the mysteries - THANK YOU
This is soooooo goood!!! Great content!! U got me on the hook here
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You checked out the encyclopedia yet? Just outstanding!
Excellent video 👏👏👏
Are you familiar with David Wiles work on ancient Greek theatre? He also discusses the mysteries and seems to have some fairly clear ideas of some of what went on.
Loved the Plutarch quote.
He's just great.
Fantastic presentation! Thank you for the sources!
- Just one little piece of criticism about the video: the pause between images and voice is sometimes a little distracting.
Thanks for the tip
The ruins of Eleusis: currently in a scattershot state and not very well-protected...that is what remains of it.
Filled with ghosts no doubt.
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@@triaprimapodcast3459 well said
@@triaprimapodcast3459 That was quite compelling
oh man I'm completely infuriated with the eleusinian mysteries. And you always hear so many different theories and you never know what to believe.
I can recommend Dr Hoellers speech about it
Dr Hoeller's stuff is great.
Amazing summary of mystery religions. I find it all an inspiration for Christianity, Hermeticism, and Freemasonry.
Given that the mystery initiations were purification rituals and initiates sought salvation through them, since knowledge was viewed as sin. Sacrifices were made because the gods were angry at the knowledge man acquired such as farming and technology seen as deviation from natural law, given by other god/s Mithraic in nature, and so Famines and storms were seen as manifestations of their wrath.
To appease the Gods, sacrifices of cattle and humans were made to ensure good harvests. However if a god associated with knowledge was sacrificed, then that could be considered a permanent sacrifice that ensured permanent salvation to initiates who underwent the same trials as those gods in purification, initiation rituals.
Christianity amended these mystery rites by making the entire life of the only begotten Son of the almighty God live a life a lifelong initiation ritual for all mankind and salvation was then reduced to merely believing in that Son of God and then initiation is reduced to a mere baptism of water. And anyone can do it.
Purification is one thing, transformation and renewal is another.
Christianity didn't ammend these rites, they destroyed them.
@@liveoak227 Christianity was created by the same people who founded those earlier rites specifically to amend those rites.
@@themitraya8132 only a low degree Mason believes people actually keep secrets over the course of millennia
Great work!
Thanks!
If you're educated on the occult then you can extrapolate what the point was. The Eleusinian mysteries were rituals designed to inspire a certain psychedelic experience that would reinforce an early Gnostic ideology within the pagan world. Persephone would serve as what would become the Gnostic character of Sophia. They were teaching initiates that our reality is a dream or more accurately to their eye... a nightmare, born of Persephone's need to distract herself from the suffering of her time with her captor husband hades who would become the Gnostic character of the Demiurge. This is an ideological system designed to make an individual deny a shared reality of any kind and therefore "free" themselves from any moral constraints so they may do whatever is necessary to increase their wealth and power in service of distracting themselves from their own suffering until the freedom of death takes them. Their gnosis would then carry them through their successive rejection of any "false" offers of a good afterlife the gods or the demiurge may offer them so they return to the blissful, black, nothingness that is as they would teach you, your "true self".
The uniting of Persephone and Demeter is to state that we are all projections of Persephone and therefore Persephone herself in the sense that we are in a state where we do not yet know how to escape our prison, making the goal of this world to learn this truth and escape to rejoin the gods in paradise. The pantheon of pagan gods, which originally would serve as symbols for the parts of the collective human psyche would eventually become the amalgamated gnostic concept of the Monad. Its all just to put a sense of symbolic character over "nothingness" itself which is what the goddess refers to in occult circles today. The point of the teaching is that existence itself is a mistake of the collective self and this world only exists as a net for the impulse to create and salvation comes through electing to return to nothingness in death where suffering and consequence can never come to be experienced again. If you are of a Christian sentiment this should be looked at as an ideology of the devil. Eastern teachings have similar views and often include elements of enlightened figures returning to creation to help free beings of what is referred to in Kabballah as fragments of the Godsoul. These varying perspectives also tend to agree that the "experience" of eternal nothingness is an infinite orgasm and to introduce any context, setting or narrative to eternity is to introduce suffering and therefore to commit error.
Oh what a nice chanel. ♡
Not a lot of info like this on the mysteries on youtube. Great visual presenations
Thanks.
Fascinating. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it
So when are you free for your mystery-divulging trial?
On a high level, what are some of the things you would change if you did this again today?
You need to make this over again with better sound, please.
36:13 , can anyone tell me the artist and title of this beautiful painting?
Have you picked up "The Immortality Key" by Brian Muraresku? (September 2020)
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@@fragiro7350 ergot instead
How’s the dissertation coming Dan?
It's going great, I'm about a year out from being done though its floating at about 350 pages. I need to edit some of it down and sometimes it feels like I'm sawing off a limb.
@@TheModernHermeticist edit out the "so on and so forth" Terence would be proud buddy ✌🏼
Can anyone recommend any reading about The Oracles of Delphi?
Plutarch, De Defectu Oraculum - penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Moralia/De_defectu_oraculorum*.html
@@TheModernHermeticist I'll show you where this might be coming from, because all the symbolism is there, many can see its link to Taurus and the 7 Sisters, it is quite sexual, as you see the horn of Taurus is seen as a penis, Taurus in known as the Throat, and the horn is a symbol of the rays of the Sun, it will be consumed by Geb/Gaia, the Virgin Earth, as you know 'vir' is Latin for Man and 'gyne' is Greek for Woman, together they form Virgin a Man/Woman, and in the Heavens it is Virgo, which the words "Boy/Girl" played backwards says "Virgo"
In late November is when Taurus drops below the Horizon, Now the Ray of the Sun was Just Swallowed by Geb/Gaia, seen in the Western horizon, but on the Eastern horizon, you find the Sun in the Claws of the Scorpion, which Scorpio is the Sexual Organ, and Sagittarius the Hips & Thighs, making that Cave Shaped constellation of Ophiuchus the Mountainous Womb of the Goddess.
Lets go back to the other Horizon, this is where the Hands of the Goddess is Fashioning the missing Part of Osiris (14), he holds it up high between Gemini the Hands and the Throat Taurus, Cut from below his Belt, setting Free Hatsya, that bright star at the tip, at Northern latitudes find it plowing the Horizon as the Sun inters Ophiuchus, Now the Rebirth of the Christ Child, but Not until 6,606 hours later, 9 Months 7 hours, placing the date around September 8th, the birthday of Mary, the Mother of Christ.
7 Sisters, 7 main stars form Orion, the 8th is spread over the horizon, and the 7 main stars of Ophiuchus, as the plow star of Orion is on the Horizon, puts Alula at Midheaven, it means "First Born" it is the Thumb of a bird wing, 7 hours later all 3 paws of the Great Bear Ursa, and Uras was the Mountainous wife of the Sky god Anu, it Means Standing Serpent, you know what that means, well 7 hours later all her paws are on the horizon, 7 hours later she take a break, and sits down on her Sagittarius, before spinning back off towards Sagittarius,
This should be enough, if you like I could show you more, but run the chance that TY will delete it, they may not even like me showing you this, I never know what comment they delete next
this is the first I'm hearing about references to eleusis in russia and egypt! where could i find out more about that?
The reason that Hercules was "excluded" wasn't that "he didn't speak greek". Yes the mysteries weren't available for non-greek speakers, because they wouldn't be able to understand the process. Hercules had committed murder - the mysteries were also excluding people who had committed murder. However because he was a hero, they found a way through: the lesser mysteries, where he would become purified. That's actually the lesser mysteries origin.
It really reminds me of all non binding LSD cults everywhere that have ever existed 👍🏾🌍
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It definitely was. Psychedelics are the beginning of all world religions and the culprit of our ejection from the animal kingdom.
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That would seem to suggest humans follow Lamarckian evolution and not Darwinian. Sounds a bit out-there. Unless you think we've been using psychedelics as a species over such a vast amount of time that through Darwinian evolution we changed. Truth is we dont know yet.
(Lamarckian evolution is basically: That which you do in your life, shapes you and not your surroundings)
@@TheModernHermeticist Someone's on the bus...
@@choonbox Maybe lamarckian evolution applies for spiritual/karmic evolution, and darwinian for materialistic/physical
I usually find my answers in doing my own work, like burying the trash or chopping wood
If you do it with absolute involvement, I'm not surprised.
Happy new year, Dan! Are you familiar with the book ‘Mystai’ by Mark Peter Adams? If yes, what do you think about it?
I haven't yet, but I have his Saturn book which I still need to read. Alex from Glitch Bottle sent it to me as a gift.
OMG DAN THANK YOU
Cheers!
great stuff, thx l needed that.
Thanks for listening 👍
22:50 Good insight, universalism is the twin of individualism as they have a similar isolating effect. Naturally there isn't a universal bird that flocks together but instead many types of birds surviving within their own systems that may interconnect. It is against nature and Borg-like to assimilate everyone into a universal collective (see New Jerusalem cube). 🕋
Speculating, but it seems to me that these mystery schools also branched into global religions or types of universalist thought (aka Marxism) and then conquered diverse peoples by pulling them out of their ethnic faiths. If the etymology of Catholicism means universal or 'the whole', than we can see why it would wish to convert or eliminate the pagans which was ethnic (part of the definition in older dictionaries). So even the word nation comes from a biological grouping or 'natal' = of or relating to birth. The word gentile is derived from the Latin gens or gentilis (same ancestor, genes, geneology). Maybe mystery schools were a kind of parasitic mind control recipe & networking to conquer the Earth.
"For the Lord your God will bless you, as he promised you, and you shall LEND TO many nations, but you shall not borrow, and you shall RULE OVER many nations, but they shall not rule over you." - Deuteronomy 15:6
My take. The process of embedding is that old putting a bit of the old away to have it ready for the new. I think where ever this was done, the moldy ergot on rye or barley or any grain was used as a ritualistic symbol of time, and the hallucinogens were a simultaneous and not computed factor, back to our pre-human evolution.. In Salem, it was an accident. Same result in a conservative pilgrim Christian setting = The Devil.
Folsom state prison in Illinois is known to have the blues brothers stop by and play rhythm and blues shows.
The statue of the veiled person or goddess from the thumbnail of this video. How do i find it? Does anyone have information on this statue ?
Me too
@@helygg8892 I cannot find it despite hours of googling. And I very much doubt anyone but the video author has the answer. ☹
@@thyhandrevolve If you google "sculpture veiled goddess Eleusinian" it pops up immediately. In this link you can click on "I" on the left panel, that should help you out.
Cyrene: Persephone, Greek Goddess of the Underworld; Museum of Ancient Sculpture
In Greek mythology, Persephone, daughter of the fertility goddess Demeter, was abducted to the underworld by Hades but was allowed to return for part of the year, when the earth became fruitful. She is often depicted, as here, drawing a veil across her face, indicating her time on earth is ending and she is returning to the underworld, when the earth once again becomes barren.
www.normpowersphotography.com/Travel/Libya/i-KJDZrvP
Thank you
As much as I love and appreciate these videos they are purely academic and serve no purpose without practical applications. I would love to see a guide to practical hermeticism.
If you could understand the importance of historic cycles and the drama of the cataclysms that connect them, you would have the secret of the scriptures, myths and mysteries. All will be revealed in the next (accelerated) three years.
I like how you mentioned about the blind man seeing might have been allegorical to seeing with his inner eye. I heard somewhere that on psychedelics, people who are color blind can see colors they’ve never been able to see. I wonder how psychedelics effect those who are blind?
their visual experience would be off as usual I guess, the other senses would have a wild feast though. Also, on some stronger psychodelics you can temporarily lose sight as it's basically useless for the state you're in. but then you use your imagination, which is full of internal(?) symbolism - which in turn draws from what you see - and here the question begins
When I take psychedelics, I see black and white.
are thr Numa videos about the archaic religion prior to the disenchantment and corruption?
Yeh, they focus on Archaic Roman religion from the early days before Hellenization, and then the last 2 chapters are about the restoration under Augustus.
@@TheModernHermeticistHow do you feel about Ammon Hillmans work?
Of course Alcibiades divulged the mystery’s at some point of his life 😂
I wonder if he divulged more secrets to people in the other countries he fled to.
I believe that he divulged may be some "recipe" which shouldnt be used without Mystagogue and sacred ceremony, but he could not really tell how it is, to be God, to be all at once.
When it's not a metal album on which you just clicked.. :P
Sad fact that we don't know the mysteries so nothing can be divulged. Seems odd that no one wrote down or passed on the mysteries so they could be preserved forever, just as the Gnostic gospels were written down and hidden in caves.
some things just can't be languaged
@@fragiro7350 I think I'm this case they could
This is why participant's were sworn to secrecy.
I wish had the names of these paintings
Your username is incredible
Long Live the Ancient Dreams!
Going down into Hades to have another part of your life on the other side. Very similar to how the Egyptians prepared for their journey thru the Underworld in order to have another part of their life on the other side. This reminds me of phrases like "gotta go with the flow" and "take a leap of faith". Isn't there another that goes something like, "you gotta go thru Hell to get to Heaven*"? If there is then that would probably sum up the message best.
* from my understanding, Heaven is a "realm" called the Empyrean. This realm is above all the others and it is where only our true Spirit bodies can go. From this realm a Spirit can walk from one place like this to another and be allowed in only once the Spirit's frequency is strong enough to handle the frequency of the galaxy's plane of Inertia you're wanting to go into. The higher up the frequency "chart" the Spirit is, the earlier into that places creation the Spirit can handle being in. The earlier the Spirit can come in, the more it can remain itself and less like how the Spirit does things with these hard light bodies of ours now and days. The frequencies collected would be vibrantly stronger and more pure, with less impure background frequencies like what we have flooding through our cities now and days to block them.
I'm gonna stop there before I start getting long winded. Any one still reading, if you're interested and have a "why such and such?" then I'd be happy to go into this further.
I did two talks more or less on this subject at the end of the first part of Encyclopedia Hermetica (in the episodes called Katabasis and Anabasis), they could potentially be worth your while if you're interested in the businesses of 'going down'/'going up.'
@@TheModernHermeticist I am very interested and WILL be looking those suggestions up. Thank you.
@Gavin D I have a couple times in a few different ways. In the Empyrean, which was like a waking dream, I as Jake Letzler the soul (resonance retriever) hadn't been born yet. I was re-living what my Spirit Light Body had seen and heard on it's way to and at the place in that realm where the Spirit can enter into Earth, all the way up to jumping into the massive whirlpool leading down into here.
Another time, I was very young and naive yet I used to be able to fly to normally unreachable dreamscapes. This ONE time I ended up in a white hallway with a window looking in to the realm I wanted to go into. This white bearded old man came in and wanted to teach me how to get back there but I was too in a hurry to get passed that window, which I eventually did. That realm I went into was like embryonic fluid but once I let it fill my lungs I could swim onward just fine. So much happened but it takes a long time to write...and read.
The reason I give these two times so much validity is because during both occasions, even though there's nearly 34 years between the two and one was a sleeping dream while the other happened while awake, there was a 30+ something female and a 15+ male counterpart. And the female is the one "in charge" at both places. In both their cases I believe the pairs both started out as one androgynous being. It's as if they portray themselves in whatever forms/state of mass "OuR" bodies are currently in. Not because they want to but because they are tied to us for as long as we're here, and have to represent us in body styles and this splitting off genders whether they like it or not. In both cases however, both pairs seemed about as high up the workforce chain for this amusement park we call the Earth as "a" Being(s) can get.
Perception is key in this place. Which is why it's been thrown all out of wack. Iv'e found a pretty easy way to think about how this place called Earth works in the ways that are not seen. The AUM is the Galaxy's point source sound resonance. As this sound progresses outward it develops it's octaves. These octaves are then themselves dimensions. When we are awake we experience all these different dimensional octaves at the same time, which creates our shared reality. But when we dream I think we can travel into them individually, but only if we can sense/"hear" them. If we cannot for some reason sense/hear a certain sound or octave of such then we'd never know there is such a place to go to, and if you did you still wouldn't be able to locate the place. In the place you want to get back to, try to remember it's sound. Mimic whatever that sound may be whether a buzzing, static, crystal, chime, etc. If you can hum it or duplicate it with something before you go to bed then your body will eventually "fall into tune" with it and you then may very well just suddenly find yourself where you're wanting to be as you dream without even ever having to waste time getting there. (all is AtUM, all is a-tune, but the Creator of ALL is atom...meaning that particular God works with the first two all"s... point source and octave's of point source). Sound, vibration, frequency = energy-(or loss of), pressure and matter. (For it to come into existence it must first be "spoken", so to speak)
One last hail-mary would be if you're coherent enough while dreaming, chose to walk away from it. Whatever is going on in that dream, walk straight away from that spot while thinking about the place you want to end up at. After walking for about 200 feet or so you should find yourself walking thru an invisible "doorway/portal" right into another place. Hopefully the place you want to be at.
LoL, I took a lot of shortcuts to try to keep this message short but I have a feeling you're far enough along to understand much of what I wrote. As you can see I don't have a problem spending time talking like this so if there's ever anything you would like me to further add into, just let me know. Good luck.
@Gavin D , that place you describe sounds like the mid Heaven type place that is first talked about in an old story called The Divine Comedy (Dante's Inferno) written by Dante Alighieri. The story is about a living man guided thru "Hell" by an Angel in order get to the Impyrean above. (Go down to get up). Basically the journey takes place within the toroidal field of this place. The same one my Spirit jumped into so I could be here for awhile.. They start here on Earth by going down the hourglass center of it where they meet people whom had died on Earth, now living in a place most would consider as Heaven in that vast "bit" of counterspace. After that they keep treking downward thru the different levels of Hell then climb up around the outside of the toroidal hourglass section they had originally come in thru the center of, until reaching the Empyrean.
Please understand that when I had my waking vision there, I had never once heard of that place until a few month's later. Yet I saw it very much how it is described to be by the Ancients.
I hope you can quickly find yourself at that place you want to be at again. A year and a half ago, were you watching a specific show before bed? Was there a specific song you listened to a lot back then? Sometimes those things can make you resonate at specific frequencies before you fall asleep. The last thing would be, if you've moved to a different spot of the world since it stopped...but I think the area would have less to do with it than your body's frequency before bed does.
Heck ya go Dan
go cholate
Were you even there bro?
"I remember. Reincarnation."
Yes we all were, let that sink in....
I was there
Cato's bewilderment is a really good joke. Gotta tell my dad that one.
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Why were they kept secret?
It wouldn't be much of a mystery otherwise.
Snake venom was also prevalent. Thats why snakes are EVERYWHERE in ancient times.
Mr Modern Hermeticist, did you ever play videogames in your youth? I always wondered if the whole "Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time" was also some sort of initiation into some sort of mystery cult. The little figures show you their tokens, at some point you get into the "chamber of sages" and the "sacred realm". These videogames (from that time especially) seem to have been highly influneced by certain freemason groups.
If we go by the procedure set you listed "The things that are said" "the things that are shown" The things you're doing" then videogames are what will now replace the education that mysteries as the on of Eleusis contained.
Would you agree?
The true initiation is when you clip through the walls or fall through the floor of the temple of time and end up in some white void outside of time and space. It's weird when it happens in game, but perhaps it can prepare you for when far weirder things happens "in real life"
Hell yes brother! We need the truth!
Carina is the Constellation that is the ship. Carina is also in our trachea that Divides the left and Right. Also in the Bladder there is a Carina, not to mention Covid ventilators. Shamans and I believe these Mystery cults took Mushrooms and shamans would give their Urine to their tribes people.
Aside from general Shinto influence, I recommend watching Good Blood's video, "A Masterpiece in Subtext" regarding Ocarina of Time. Rather than an initiation, it is more like an anti-initiation sacrifice ritual.
A game like ocarina of time can open imagination into such things. But at some point you have to eat a handful of mushrooms and spend an odd night in the woods if you want to take things a step further.
21:45 whoever has made that face on acid is an initiate
2.30 why is the person sittin on a log, with his hood up, getting his 2 fingers burned with his right foot on a rams head?! We will never get this back!
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why so echo-y?
It's a very old recording done on a crappy webcam microphone.
they were divulged by Bataille..
Well her name is Persephone in these mysteries. Kore is her name when she's the Goddess of Spring.
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@@fragiro7350 Each God or Goddess has different names depending on the type of cult. Kore which means "Maiden" is her name as the Goddess of Spring. The Eleusinian Mysteries is a cult of her when she is Persephone, Queen of the Dead.
@@Cuban20 very correct
So i shouldn't tell others about dmt. ??
Ta Dan x
ta rob x
Demeter the giver of grain, Demeter the giver of ergot , Demeter the giver of trips.
Thanks to CIA "scientists". Obviously CIA worship other entities not the Gods or the Titans.
Heracles was Greek... Problem was he had killed his family and wasn't an Athenian so he couldn't participate in the Great eleusinian festival.
Что самое странное и интересное, что государства запрещают проводить мистерии в современное время.
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I wonder if they passed the Acid Tests.
The Eleusinians: NO
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Allucinians?
Eleusinians?
@@TheModernHermeticist that was in the title .. i was suggesting that this Word could be originated from them .
Hermeticism is only proof that rich nerds exist who've held their own versions of Star Wars conventions for hundreds of years.
It’s more akin to the Burning Man or EDM festivals