The Kral Puncher Jumbo - From Dave Palmer's Collection
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- Опубликовано: 26 май 2020
- Here's a look at the Kral Puncher Jumbo, a 14 shot .177 thumbhole stock side lever from David Palmer.
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I've had 3 or 4 krals now and air arms diablo 4.52 have been spot on everytime.
That has crazy hammer bounce
Hi I am a fan of your channel from Northern Ireland. Over here we have to put all airguns on a FAC, this includes sub-twelve.
I was looking for a .25 FAC rife and this gun caught my eye.
I currently have an FX Crown Mark II, I can get a 10 shot group through roughly in the same hole.
Do you think the Kral's could match the FX? I am a firm believer in not blindly just following a big brand. I have had issues with the feed on both my FX magazines and one still fails to feed from time to time, with three pellets still left in the mag. The gun also has issues with not feeding from the mag and it is easy to double feed if not disciplined. lt is only my opinion, but FX needs to go away and rethink their mags. I and another friend with an FX Wildcat both had mag issues.
I used to like the saying "Is it soldier proof" sometimes the more basic the better as long as it works.
I've got one !!! I've had no problems with the accuracy with mine , I'm shooting Daystate Kaiser pellets 8.6 , spot on at 70 metres ,it's loud but it's fine on the range .it's not back garden friendly.l tried RWS Superdome 8.4 they shot pretty much the same, the Daystate just edge's them
I like the discovery scopes they are really good for the money 👍🏻
what is the difference between kral super jumbo and kral jumbo? what is the best ?
Hi Mark, great honest reviews , tests and opinions .im getting into air rifles again after many years and really enjoying your videos.
Gonna treat myself to a gun upto a grand after I get my license in Scotland ( held up due to COVID ) still open minded only the HW100 really rocking my boat so far
You can't go wrong with an HW rifle. I am getting a HW100 in the next couple of weeks. When I got back into shooting that was my first PCP that I tried. The Airgun Centre in Essex do some great deal packages on these and will deliver next day to your nearest RFD. The HW100 is a tried and tested reliable rifle. www.theairguncentre.com/rifle-combinations?brand=261&calibre_multi=266&gun_type=275
Airgun Sniper-Elite , Hi Mark, thanks for the reply I’ll definitely look into that when we get out of lockdown and I get my ticket up here in Scotland
Go with the hw100 ,if that's your first PCP you will be happy, I've never had a bad gun from hull cartridge, but most of the other top end manufacturers I've had more than one bad rifle.
Fx dreamline
Great work! nearly bought the jumbo hicap but I went with the rti priest 2. I'm picking it up next week so fingers crossed its a good one. Thanks for the amazing content
The Priest rifle has a great following and I am sure you've made the correct choice. I have only heard good feedback on them so far.
I really did not know the pellet made that much difference, at that stage I would have put a different scope on it thinking the original was broken!
Thinkin back i can remeber all my pellets mint and on target. Brakeneck airrifles are accurate. PCP cannot compete because of the air released everytime the hammer strikes the valve. It is not controlled to a standard where you can be satisfied where it must work everytime to the same effectiveness . It just wont give you complete satisfaction in what you are trying to do if you want perfection. Old school rules.
Stupid question lol but what's the difference between this n the hi cap 1 is the hi cap coz its got 2 bottles supplied
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good intro , if you listen to all the birds chirping, they where shouting … don't shoot over here , poor grouping at the start , but very honest review , no gimmicks and try and ask the daystate gang for a spare silencer . keep up the good work mark
I have the .25 in this. Mine out the box loves h&n field target trophys and diablo jumbos. And some h& n grizzlys .31 grain. Also the trigger is different then yours. Very nice out the box, crisp and predictable. Also has a adjustable trigger shoe. The updated version I guess. I see in your other video the barrel was the issue. Anywho, Nice long video, enjoyed it 👍🇨🇦🍺
I shoot two springers. Granted, they are top of the range. However, I never thought they would outshoot a Kral Puncher. Obviously something not right.
Yes, it was a faulty barrel.
Im wondering how much use that rifle has had? Ive had guns that new or after cleaning seemed very fussy but after a lot of leading in (500 pellets or more sometimes) ended up shooting just about anything well.
Dave Palmer tells me he has had it about eight months. He thought it was his scope that was the problem, but I fitted my own, so not the scope. I probably put nearly a tin full through it myself over the last few days. LOL.
@@airgunsniper-elite7385 The rangemasters seemed to be grouping better on the second try. I'd try shooting a ton of those through it. JSB do make different diameter pellets. I think they do 4.5, 4.51, and 4.52 in 0.177 cal. Maybe try another smaller pellet through it. I was wondering if it is the choke in the barrel? Most shops just stock the 4.52 or 5.52 pellets I have found. Maybe they are too big for the choke?
Morning Mark, really enjoying all your videos, on this particular pellet test on Dave's Kral rifle may be worth trying single loading if possible to eliminate any damage that the multi shot loading magazine may be causing, the usual suspect the moderator has been removed witch has narrowed down the poor grouping with the most popular pellets used by many of us, stay safe bud 👍
Thanks John, I did load some into the breach by hand to no avail. Cliff Kirkman is now on the case with two options. Option one: cut the barrel down, re crown and baffle the shroud. Option two: Fit a cold hammer forged BSA barrel and baffle the shroud. It will be interesting to review the rifle when it's complete. I spoke with Dave Palmer and Cliff this morning and Cliff has now got the rifle.
Hi Mark watched this video this morning, really enjoyed it. It was good to see you trying to work through the issues with this gun. I don't think I have ever seen such a pellet fussy barrel. Astonishing to think it was the very first pellet you tried was the one that ended up being the best 🙄 could you give a update on what happend in the end. Was a new barrel fitted ? Did it sort the problem out ? Its good to see other shooters issues as sometimes you can think you are the only one who has the odd problem 👍hope the weather picks up or even calms down so you can get down the range soon. Like you I am getting shooting withdrawal symptoms 🤣 In fact as I look out of the window it's snowing here this morning ☃️👍aaaaagh!
Thanks Garry,
I the end it turned out to be a bad barrel, as it didn't even center with the shroud. Instead of sending it back he sold it to one of our members who fitted a BSA barrel, and now shoots like a lazer. He then sold it to another member that liked the upgrade. If I can find out who bought it I'll do another review. It even looked better, as the barrel and shroud were shorter.
Don't understand if it's the barrel how can it chuck 4 or 5 in the same hole then spew them out all over the shop, hats off don't know how you carried on for so long. Well done keep it up!
We found hammer bounce while looking at it this morning. That could be having it's effect.
Chrony and moderator hanging off the barrel changes POI. New Kral guns need to lead in the barrel. I have 3 and you really need to clean barrel then spend time leading it in.
That's jumbo the Elephant that rifle is, but well done with the time you spent on it,👍🐘🌈stay safe.
I have one of these in .22 and it shoots 3 out of 5 pellets I've put through it. One was a little worse, one poor. Could it be the mags? These should come with a single shot tray, be worth a go with one! The Krals are known to shoot noticeably better with one, and would maybe rule out a dodgy mag.
Hello Rob,
After giving it to Cliff Kirkman to look at he found out that the barrel was bent. When the end cap came off the shroud the barrel was touching the side of the shroud. He put it in his laith. cut the barrel down by about five inches, and straightened it. He did some test firing with it and it now shoots a lot better with different pellets. I am surprised that i got it to shoot with the Daystate 10.3 grain pellets considering how bad it was. I also found out afterwards that Dave Palmer had purchased it second hand from a shop in Leicestershire, so not a fair comparrison to a new one. Hopefully I will get back to this rifle soon and update everyone on how it performs now. It did surprise me considering that the original barrel of the bullpup puncher breaker had problems. After that with the Mk2 models they had improved their barrels, so you would think all their barrels would have been upgraded, which they probably were. I think this one was a bad example of one from the second hand market.
@@airgunsniper-elite7385 Hi, thanks for the update. I see, definitely a dodgy 2nd hand example and not representative. Look forward to seeing a take 2 video! Cheers
looking forward to see how the tsar and safari do … don't forget .. a spare silencer
Got the Safari this morning, ready to role
@@airgunsniper-elite7385 very nice..i hope it shoots well..ive only seen 1 fac version..lucky boy
what happened to your sound at the end
please try some polymag shorts..keep up the good work
hi mark..im just watching the concept lite.i had a shoot of 1 the first week it came out with steve on airgunology...did you try and remove the side picatinny rails.we had a bit of trouble with them, but the rifle shot ok and was very light
Gonna have to watch this again ... the only thing that I can think of , is the daystate 10.34 are a different profile to the rest , like little willies for want of a better desciption ... would that be a better feed in the magazine then the diabolo? .. even my mrs said " marks flogging a dead horse " ... JESUS I recon ( sticking my neck out here ) the Hades .177 would work in that ( same profile ) or COULD it be the magazine in general? It may be worth trying single shot loading ... I dunno .. its got me flumuxed ... gonna watch it again Saturday morning , when them arshole boy racers aint razzing down the lane by me ... making a bloody racket ...
You will struggle getting those bsa eletes down your barrel at over 15 grain. Nice gun
Yes, I had mixed a bloody tine of .22 with them. Apart from the size difference, the tins look identical. I think I ended up shooting the BSA Max instead.
The barrel is made for hi power not 16j.. dont no about .177... but .22 only shoots 18.1..? JSB heavys...@ 16J..U might find a pellet thats like a JSB... THE NEW FX SLUG..😕...HELO FROM IRELAND..😆
Loved the music intro to the video Mark. Very much in keeping with the brand. Is Mr Palmer asking you to demonstrate his guns or simply service them. 🤣 An interesting air rifle nonetheless. Well done m8, keep up the good work.
At least I am getting to see what the rifles are like. I was thinking of getting one of these, but not if it performs like that. Hopefully it's just a bad one, and not a general issue.
@@airgunsniper-elite7385 Yes, I saw another review of the same kind of gun by some guy recently but it was in a foreign language and was similarly off beam, with no good groups at all. Maybe it's the type of gun that looks the part but doesn't act it when put to the test.
I'd also like to add that I hope the gun can be sorted at some point where it does shoot straight and maybe can be reviewed again if you've a mind to Mark. My intent isn't to upset the owner of the gun, Mr Palmer but simply to call a spade a spade are per how it appeared to perform in the video.
hi mark,,not very good results there,a few issues with that rifle,i think all those pellets you tried more than one brand should be a bit more accurate than they are,,i probably think theres a problem with the barrel to be honest,just seems to be spitting them all over the place for some reason and apart from a problem with the barrel i cant think what else it maybe.
Yes, I drew the same conclusions in the end. It should have shot well with at least five brands of pellet. Daves getting the barrel sorted now by our club engineer, Cliff Kirkman. Its either a cut down current barrel and re crown plus a shroud baffle set, or a BSA cold hammer forged barrel.
Very accurate mate
p.s try printtargets.net .. make your own. is good stuff
Ill keep my BSA Gold Star
You can't go wrong with a gold star. Trouble is not everyone can spend that amount on an airgun when they have to also buy pumps, air tanks or compressors and decent scope, so just showing alternatives. This one is having a BSA barrel fitted by Cliff Kirkman, so I'll hopefully get back to you with the improvement in accuracy. 👍
@@airgunsniper-elite7385 Agreed, I guess id say to those folks, buy a good springer to start and save up for a German, swedish or English PCP gun.
I almost heard you over the sirens 🤣🤣🤣
For a minute I thought the Armed response would come crashing through the back door.
Got a bsa t10.. No matter vwat suppress er... I put on it.. Its awful.. Take serpresser an off.. Shoots brill....
Yes, a suppressor can usually change the point of impact once fitted. Some do a similar job as an air stripper, but it's not nice when they don't work at all. I have the BSA VC silencer on my R10 with no problems, but I know from other R10 users that they can also be pellet fussy. My rifle is not pellet fussy, but it isn't standard. It's a fully tuned Ratworks rifle, so maybe that has sorted any usual issues out.
I love your videos Mark but always struggle to hear what ur saying with the crap in the background , can you not put a cheap digital voice recorder in ur pocket and have a little mic on your collar , cheers Shane
I have one now, but not until recently.
It shots like a shot gun. lol
Yes, unless you feed it Daystate Sovereign 10.3 grain pellets, and that's not good enough. You would have thought Kral would have learned this barrel accuracy lesson fron the Mk1 Kral Puncher Breaker.
@@airgunsniper-elite7385 Great video as always and you got there in the end.👍
Just watched all the video.... With modern machines.. It should shoot pretty good with a few brands of pellets... Not just one brand... Its a awful rifle......
Yes, definitely a duff barrel. Dave's decided to let Cliff Kirkman eat her cut down the barrel and re crown, plus baffel the shroud, or fit a cold hammer forged BSA barrel.