I know Im asking the wrong place but does any of you know of a trick to get back into an Instagram account..? I stupidly forgot the password. I would appreciate any help you can give me
I am Turk and I love Greece and the people. I have many Greek friends in Australia. We get along very well. Its politicians and the fanatics that make problems. Specially in football matches. Σεβασμός
@@gamma4053 These things happened several generations back in the history many centuries it's not a phenomenon of the 20th century.. Back then Christians often change their religion in order to survive
@@gamma4053 You think that this is the history of Turkey but I tell you this is the history of the Byzantine Empire and the Greeks of Asia minor We all connected in some way ! I am coming from anatolia Pontus and Kappadokia
I am in tears from the WONDERFUL Comments of Turks expressing affection for US Greeks. We need to REACH across our Emotional and Physical borders and EMBRACE these people who want us all to LIVE in Peace and Brotherhood. May these sentiments Expressed by these Turk Brothers extend and Expand to include the Government of Turkey! Teşekkürler Kardeşler!!! NYC GREEK
A message to the Greek and Turkey government look at this video. The Turkish and Greek people love each other . And so beautiful there are Turkish people they can talk Greek and Greek people they can talk Turkish. Whe wants peace not war with Turkey
half of greece is still occupied by turks , as soon as greek cities are free , greeks and turks can be the best friends in the world. u see just because turks occupy greek territories for so long it doesnt mean they ever belong to them. ask the jews who waited 2000 years to get back their city jerusalem, the same will do the greek with the capital of the greek world, CONSTANTINOPOLIS . once the turkish occupation ends, the greek can start becoming friends with ppl who dont keep stolen stuff from their neighbours, see thats how easy it is to have peace in the world.
The people in the video speak greek as maternal language. They are not turks. They were exchanged because they were muslims. They are greek muslims. But in turkey kemal attaturk created a nation by unifying different nations together under the umbrella of turkey and islam. He considered anyone muslim a turk. Kemal attaturk himself was an albanian muslim. Qemal is a very common albanian name. Kemal s father was from a village in the border of modern day north macedonia and albania. He was not from thessaloniki as the turks say.
Hiç birisi you try to hide from the truth Im a christian from trabzon who is hiding and says hes muslim because people like you will kill me as they did to my grandparents 100 ago. Pontus still exists
@@umutcanylmaz1436 ...Greeks are a 3.000 year old Native nation....TURKS?.....WHAT TURKS?.....THE MONGOL TURKIC PEOPLE THAT ARE LESS THAN 20% OF MODERN "TURKEY"?.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....GODDAMN INSANE....
@@umutcanylmaz1436 Mate they massively converted to Islam. So there was no need for Suni women or Suni men. In just one day they all became Muslims. They had to choose this or death. Do a DNA test to see what you are. If you are a pure Turk you must look like Turkmeni. I do respect the fact that you feel Muslim and Turk.. Erdoan has Greek roots although he feels Turk 100%.
Kai dio papoudes mou kai h dio kalomanas mou apo ton Ordu, genithika stin Australia alla mia mera tha pao sto Ordu na ziso tis rises mou. Na zisi o Pontos. De kratao misos stous Tourkos, giati h perisotiri mas agapane kai kseroun tin alithia kai pistvo mas extimoun gia tin kardia pou exoun h Ponti.
@@ΓεώργιοςΤζωρτζουλάκης unfortunately we have similar genes with greeks. But greeks are our enemies so we are not brothers or friends. Stay away from my country little greeks. You have no place in Turkey.
@@yarenguney6410 Having greek dna is not the unfortunate thing,as 30% of today turkish population have greek dna.Even Erdogan comes from greek vilage in Pontos..Turks come from the mountain Altay in Mongolia,you are Mongols,nothing to do with europeans and our culture.Greek dna,culture, language is still strong throughout the Mediterranean and is going to stay that way..
I remember my grandfather speaking in almost the same language,which is called Rumeika. In 1780th the Greeks left their settlements in the Crimea and came to the steppe not far from the Sea of Azove.There they founded the city of Mariupol and numerous villages.This video just reminded me of that culture.
What your ancestors spoke is Pontic Greek, but these people speak a different Greek dialect. Their ancestors came from Macedonia and that’s why they speak a typical northern Greek dialect(the regions of Kozani and Grevena in west Macedonia, though one of them said his origin is from Drama, in east Macedonia).
@@kostas68 With all due respect, I have to say that Rumeika should be regarded as a separate Greek dialect or even a group of Greek dialects.And Pontic similarities were not generally accepted.
@@developer3406 Pontic is to a certain extend aberrant from all other Greek dialects, because it was isolated from the rest of the Greek-speaking world for some centuries and thus it has not undergo the same evolution and kept many archaisms that have disappeared long ago from other Greek dialects. Some 30 years ago I had the opportunity to talk with a Pontian who came to Greece from Russia just 3-4 months before and so his speech was not influenced by standard Greek, he spoke only Pontian. Judging by that experience, I'd say the mutual intelligibility between Pontic and standard Greek is around 80-85%.
Judging by the Greek dialect they speak (clearly a northern Greek dialect), they are in all probability descendants of the so-called 'Vaalades", i.e. Greeks of the Grevena-Kozani region in the West Macedonia province of Greece who converted to Islam around late 18th-early 19th century. Their native language was Greek but since they were Muslims they were sent to Turkey, according to the terms of the population exchange treaty between Greece and Turkey
@Jd Pv you either are silly person and some strange troll , either some delusional guy who willingly does not want to learn History, either some child . You my dear Northern Macedonian friend are Slavic People who was living in Macedonia since Byzantine times , thats a fact . Your "arguments" are well known for 10 years , every time you copy paste the same stuff . Greeks are not your enemies , yes we had some problems in Past between bulgarian/slavic populations and Greeks in Macedonia since second balkan war till the civil war in Greece , we just as you made many bad things to each other and i will not comment on which side started first cause it has no point , but in our society we speak about those things openly we discuss our history and we try to be fair .We want to have good relationships with you, just as we have them with Bulgaria but for that you should also change , accept common history stop being feed brainwashing propaganda stop claiming that you have something to do with Greek history and become modern European country , its for your own good dear friend .
Ο απλός λαός ψηφίζει τον Ερντογάν. Τσακώνονται οι Τούρκοι πολιτικοί προεκλογικά για το πόσα νησιά θα πάρουν για να κερδίσουν την ψήφο του "απλού" λαού. Αυτό αρέσει στην "απλό" λαό. Έλεος ορισμένοι με τα λογίδρια για την Α΄ Δημοτικού.
My ancestors were migrated from nasliç, where is called as neopoli in greek language, to İstanbul. They were speaking only greek language When came to İstanbul. We are called "patriyot'. ✋
Hey bro as a turk byzatine empire is very imporatnt. we are love history for example our leader Ataturk 's idol is empreor kostantin for example so dont hate us
@@AndreasKoutris όντως είναι οφθαλμοφανής η παραμελημένη από το κράτος βόρια μεριά του Έβρου, μόλις περάσεις το τελωνείο των Κήπων βλέπεις την διαφορά.
We lived with Greeks for centuries. I always feel ashamed for that we can’t speak Greek. We’re like siblings. In the end we both suffered and broke each other’s heart for no reason. We should have spoken our languages. I wish politicians focus on our similarites rather than political games. We should learn more about our languages and cultures. Greetings from Turkey dear Greek friends, we’re neighbours, we’re friends and we are united by hearts. We will beat dirty political games with our long live friendship 💕💕💕
İngilizcede yazılmış çok heyecanlı ve doğru yorumunuz için çok teşekkür ederim sayın Ebru hanım. Ben de sizin için düşünüyorum ve inanıyorum yani biz Yunanlılar ve Türkler kardeş halklarımız. Ben biraz yıllar önce biraz Türkçe öğrendim ve Türk İnsanları ve sizin kültürünüzü yakından çok daha iyi öğrendim. Çok iyi Türk arkadaşlarım tanıdım. Öbürünün dili öğrenmek bence çok önemli, çünkü anahtar gibi kültürün ve yaşamın kapısı açılır. Ben yalnız Türkçe değil, çok diğer yabancı diller öğrendim, hepsi kendi öğrenmeye kurs kitaplar ile. Maalesef özel okul bir dil öğrenmeye giderken sıkça maalesef çok pahalı ve çok yavaş bir süreç oluyor. Size de kolayca Yunanca öğrenmeyi diliyorum!
This is what our relationship should look like! I’m very happy after watching this. Let’s just let the past be in the past and get along well with each other. Because we are both Mediterranean people and look so similar. Peace 🇬🇷 🇹🇷 ❤
Bölgemizin iki büyük medeni halklarının sevgi saygı medeniyet sevinçleri acıları duyguları aynı yunanlı türk halkına böyle güzellikler yakışır iki halkın sözde milliyetçileri bu masun insanlara çok acılar çekmesine sebeb oldular hepsi yerin dibine batsın pısırıklar korkaklar kalpleri yok ama bundan sonraki yıllarda bilinçlenen halklar bu acılara izin vermeyecek yaşasın türk yunan komşuluğu iste poli kali antropik efharisto poli
Μπράβο Κωνσταντίνε ωραίο βίντεο ο κύριος που είπε ότι είναι από Τσακνοχώρι είναι στο νόμο βοιου Κοζάνης υπάρχουν ερείπια και μαρτυρίες ότι υπήρχαν Τούρκοι στην περιοχή κατά καιρούς έρχονται λεωφορεία με Τούρκους για να δουν την γη από ζούσαν οι πρόγονοι τους!!επισης η τοπική μουσική είναι τα χάλκινα όπως στο τέλος του βίντεο σου!!!
Έτσι ακριβώς είναι έρχονται κάθε χρόνο στο χωριό μάς..Έχω συνομιλήσει με αρκετούς όλοι ισχυρίζονται ότι είναι ελληνικής καταγωγής και ότι αδίκως έφυγαν οι πατεράδες τούς απο το χωριό..Συμπληρωματικά λοιπον να επισημάνω πώς έχουν τα ίδια Μουσικά ακούσματα με μάς και χορούς και διατηρουν και κάποια έθιμα όπως ακριβώς και εδώ...έρχονται με φωτογραφίες στα χέρια κτλ μήπως βρούνε τα σπίτια των πατεράδων τούς....Δυστυχώς όμως δεν έμεινε τίποτα πλην ενός παρατημενου μουσουλμανικού νεκροταφείου με αγνώστου ταυτότητος πεθαμένων...οι περισσότεροι αναφέρουν την εκκλησία του Αγίου πνεύματος που όντως υπάρχει ανακαινισμένη φυσικά...γνωρίζουν αρκετά για το χωριό τούς εδώ και υπάρχει ταύτιση των ιστοριών που μεταφέρουν......
Your forefathers were Turks 100% sure. Also Turks in the West have more turkic dna percentage when east and middle anatolian people have greek and armenian roots. Maybe that's why their mentality is different. Speaking and learning a language doesn't change your ethnicity. Also Greece Greeks learnt how to be modern civilized developed humans from after istanbul greeks migrated away. You learn modernity from them
I shall reply to Mr. Konstantinos about Vaalades. The same hapens in Turkey when people left in 1924. People who where christians stayed in Turkey and there were some first cousins that they are in Trabzon besides the othes came here in Greece.
2 millet yıllarca beraber yaşadı osmanlı döneminde.normal Türkçe Yunanca bilmeleri.siyasi ve din konusu bizi ayırıyor.yoksa her şey aynı.Yunanistana gittimde şaşırdım ilk hiç bir fark yok:))
@Ahmet Mehmet Bunlar ya Makedonya'dan göç etmiş Türkler (geldiklerinde komşu milletler olan Makedonların ve Yunanlıların dilini biliyorlardı,aralarında Vaalades denilen bir grup da vardı ama çok az sayıda) ya da Girit kökenliler (Giritli Müslümanlar karışık bir etnik köken sahipti, yarı Grek yarı Türk denilebilir, ama çoğunlukla Yunanca konuşuyorlardı). Muhtemelen Makedonya kökenliler. Eğer öyleyse Yunan eğitim sistemi ve devleti tarafından Yunanca eğitimden geçirildikleri uzunca bir dönem var. Doğal olarak oradan gelmiş olanlar hatırladıkları kadarıyla konuşabiliyorlar. Nüfus mübadelesi sırasında bizden Yunanistan'a gönderilen 1 milyon Ortodoks Hristiyanin 650 bini Türk kökenli ve Yunanca bilmeyen Karamanlılar idi (beylik olan Karamanlılar ile karıştırma, bunlar Bizans döneminde Balkanlardaki Peçenek, Oğuz ve Kumanlardan Hristiyanlığa devsirilerek Sasanilere karşı Anadolu'ya yerleştirilmiş, Türkçe konuşup Türkçeyi Yunan alfabesiyle yazan Hristiyan Türkler). Benzer şekilde bizim buraya gelen 900 bin (bazı Yunanlılar 1.5 milyon diyor ama yanlış, öyle olsa o sırada Yunanistan nüfusu 2.5 milyon idi, çoğunluk Türklerde olması gerekirdi; ama değildi) Müslüman Türk'ün içinde 40 bin kadar Makedonya kökenli ve 45-50 bin kadar da Giritli Müslüman da vardı (Türkiye nüfusu 11 milyondu o zaman). Kısacası bu amcalar büyük olasılıkla sadece oradan göçtüğü için Yunanca da bile kökeni de Türk amcalar, ama bir ihtimalle bu bahsettiğim iki gruptan birine de dayanıyor olabilir kökleri. Eğer öyleyse Yunanlı youtuber bayağı arayıp bulmuş olmalı, sayıları çok az çünkü.
@@boraboranloglu9489 tespitlerin çoğu doğru ama hatalarda var bu dayılar büyük ihitmalle patriyot istanbula trakyaya yerleşenler Patriyotlar aslında müslüman yunanlar. trakya da patriyot nufüsü hayli kalabalık ama kimse yunanız demez. belki değiller ama tek yunanca konuşan müslüman topluluk patriyotlar. giritten gelenler ise türk daha çok akdeniz ve egeye yerleşmişlerdir. Patriyotlarda mübadele ile gelenler çoğunlukta olduğu gibi balkan savaşları sonrasında kaçarak gelenlerde mevcut.
The mother tongue of the Karamanlides community living in Cappadocia and Central Anatolia was Turkish. None of them knew Greek. If this people are of Greek origin, Karamanlides are also of Turkish origin. Tell us a little bit about the Karamanlides community. The mother tongue of your former prime minister's ancestors was Turkish.
Karamanlides wasn't Turks They have their own languages wrote Turkish but with greek alphabet We are Greeks we aren't Turks but Cappadocia was the first region to become ottoman part from minor Asian Before the 1377 everyone speak only greek and then we beggin to speak both languages Between 18th-19th century karamanlides were many many fewers than the Turks so the sultan closed the Greeks school and απαγορευσε to speak greek So the began to speak Turkish and the still write on greek and feel greeks
Thing is, Karamanlis wasn't a karamanli, his surname was probably a coincidence. He was born in Greece before the arrival of the karamanlides, around 1907 (the karamanlides came to Greece in 1923). He was from Serra and no source states any possible descent from Karaman. Basically, surnames playing around. Now, maybe a very far ancestor of his might have been a karamanli who settled in Greece very early, but years have passed so his turkish descent was probably very small.
I WITNEST WHEN I WENT TO TRABZON BLACK SEA ALL THE OLD PEOPLE WERE SPEAKING OLD GREEK EVEN MODERN DAY GREEKS DONT UNDERSTAND THE OLD GREEK LANGUAGE I WAS TOLD DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY THEY STILL SPEAK OLD GREEK PLEASE...
many greeks converted to islam to avoid the persecutions and taxes of the ottoman empire. Unfortunately although of greek ethnic origin because of their muslim religion were forced to go to turkey by the lossane treaty in 1923
UltraGreen Thessaloniki so also Christian Karamanlı Ortodox Turks have gone to Greece after Lousanne,,So it has been big problem for Turk And Greek people..
@@TekeliYoruk The origin of Karmanlides is more mysterious. If they were of Turkish origin, then why would they convert from Islam to Christianity? So they were either Turks who came there while the Byzantine Empire was still strong and with great cultural influence, or simply Orthodox Greeks who forgot their language after hundrends of years of Turkish occupation but managed to preserve their religion. Eitherway, Karmanlides were a relatively small group of people in comparison with the hundrends of thousands Muslims of Greek origin that were expelled from Greece during the Lousanne treaty.
@KazanKhan The ones who were forcefully kicked out of their homes were the millions of Greeks of Pontus and of Asia Minor and the millions of Armenians who were victims of the Genocide. Also the Greeks of Constantinople who were forcefully had their property destroyed and confiscated during and after the "Istanbul" Pogrom in the 1950s. Also Greece fought actively fascim and Nazism in ww2 and was actually the first country to win against an axis power (Italy), were was Turkey at that time? Oh yeah, neutral...cowards
Είμαι από την αλλεξανδρουπολη γεννημένος και χαρικα πόλη που βλέπουμε οτη ι τουρκη και η Έλληνες που ηνε καλό είμαστε αδέρφια και αφτα δεν μασ ασχολουθουν πολητικα merhaba ben yunanturkü tüm Osmanlı torunuyum rastizmo yapmayalım yani ırkçılık lütfen biz 2 devlet tek miletiz kardeş ülke yiz
The people in the video speak greek as maternal language. They are not turks. They were exchanged because they were muslims. They are greek muslims. But in turkey kemal attaturk created a nation by unifying different nations together under the umbrella of turkey and islam. He considered anyone muslim a turk. Kemal attaturk himself was an albanian muslim. Qemal is a very common albanian name. Kemal s father was from a village in the border of modern day north macedonia and albania. He was not from thessaloniki as the turks say.
The people in the video speak greek as maternal language. They are not turks. They were exchanged because they were muslims. They are greek muslims. But in turkey kemal attaturk created a nation by unifying different nations together under the umbrella of turkey and islam. He considered anyone muslim a turk. Kemal attaturk himself was an albanian muslim. Qemal is a very common albanian name. Kemal s father was from a village in the border of modern day north macedonia and albania. He was not from thessaloniki as the turks say.
I am not suprised of that! Because, i know many people who speak Turkish and mother language at the same time... If you are interested in politics, you think Greece and Turkey are in a battle all the time. But if you ask these people, they have been living together since many years. Come to Izmir and you can find and meet many people speaking Greek and Turkish! Best Wishes to Turkey and Greece...
Hi Murad... I was wondering whether you can find Greek speaking populations Near smyrni!ismir. The people on the video speak Greek but in a lower level. Is obvious that they would communicate much better in Turkish. But that's expected.
@Georges Petko I live in İzmir but I had never encountered someone who speaks Greek perfectly in any dialect. But maybe they are communicating between themselves since daily language is Turkish. I have heard that Greek community in Istanbul is more than in İzmir and they can speak Greek fluently. But what is the difference ? I mean is it their pronunciation or grammar ?
@@newbimalfoy9051 I wouldn't know as I never heard any of them... But the truth is that the more you go to the north of Greece the more the musicality of the voice matches Turkish / Armenian musicality. Maybe this has to do with the fact that in North Greece many people had ancestors from Asia minor or pontos area... Then many Greeks when they came to Greece after 1921 spoke Turkish better than Greek. Same like In the UK.. Where second or third generation Indians or Pakistani people speak English better than their ethnic background language.
όπου πάω αγαπάω ναι, στο πρώτο μισό είμαστε στο Οβάγενιτζέ μετά στο Γενίκιοΐ, στη βόρεια άκρη του νέου μεγάλου αεροδρομίου «Ιστανμπουλ» της Κωνσταντινούπολης
Βρε παιδιά τι μου θυμίσατε τώρα ο παπους μου και η γιαγιά μου η πρώτη γλώσσα τους ήταν τουρκικά ,άσε που δεν μιλάγανε ελληνικά καθόλου μεταξύ τους ❤️❤️
@@zeynepatacantr1215 EVET, BIZ YUNANLULAR VE TURKLEL ARASINDAMIZ COK GUZEL VE SICAKKANLI BIR ILISKIMIZ VAR! BEN MESELA YUNANLI OLUNCA YARIM GUN "TRT TURKU" KANALI DINLIYORUM!
@@zeynepatacantr1215 evet Zeynep hanım biraz biliyorum. Yıllarca öğrmeye çalıştım şimdi aşağı yukarı anlıyorum ve ne düşünüyorum Türkçe diyebilirim. Türkçe öğrenince ve türkleri tanışınca fark ettim ki genel fikri tam karşısında Türkler bizim Yunanlılar için “can düşmanımız” hiç değil, ama bizim en yakın halk, en yakın millet, bize en iyi dost olabilirler, kardeşler gibi!
İzmir'de de bulursunuz. Hatta İzmirde makedonca, bulgarca, arnavutça, sırpça konuşanları da bulursunuz. Hepsi Balkan insanlarıdır ve 1950'den beri hep birlikte yaşarlar. Belki de daha eskidir. Benim dedem balkan topraklarından Yugoslavya'dan... O yüzden eksi topraklar hem Türkçe hem de kendi doğduğu yerlerin dilini konuşurlar. Ben ise Makedonca dilini çat pat konuşsam da anlayabiliyorum. Balkan insanı candır. Hem geldiği yeri hem de yaşadığı yeri her daim yaşatır.. Sevgiler...
@Ali Al-Yunaniω θεοί ,έγινε φίλε ότι πιστεύεις οκ,δεν έχω σκοπό να σου αλλάξω γνώμη φίλε μου . Αρκεί να είσαι καλός άνθρωπος . Όλα τα άλλα χρέωσε τα στην φωτιά.
Η μία γιαγιά μου ήταν Ελληνόφωνη Τούρκα από την Τραπεζούντα Γεννήθηκε μετά το 1923 όπου ο Πόντος βρίσκεται υπό Τουρκική Κατοχή. Η άλλη γιαγιά μου ήταν Ελληνόφωνη Αιγύπτια από την Αλεξάνδρεια Γεννήθηκε μετά το 1923 όπου η Αλεξάνδρεια βρίσκεται υπό Αιγυπτιακή Κατοχή. Οι Παππούδες μου ήταν Δωδεκανήσιοι Ελληνόφωνοι Οθωμανοί. Γεννήθηκαν πριν το 1917 όπου τα Δωδεκάνησα ήταν υπό Οθωμανική Κατοχή. Ο Πατέρας μου ήταν Δωδεκανήσιος Ελληνόφωνος Ιταλός. Γεννήθηκε μετά το 1917 και πριν το 1944 όπου τα Δωδεκάνησα ήταν υπό Ιταλική Κατοχή. Η Μητέρα μου ήταν Δωδεκανήσια Ελληνόφωνη Βρετανή. Γεννήθηκε ανάμεσα στο 1944 και 1947 όπου τα Δωδεκάνησα ήταν υπό Βρετανική Κατοχή. Εγώ είμαι Δωδεκανήσιος Ελληνόφωνος Έλληνας. Γεννήθηκα μετά από το 1947 όπου τα Δωδεκάνησα βρίσκονται υπό Ελληνική Κατοχή. Ένας πρώτος μου ξάδερφος είναι Ελληνόφωνος Αμερικάνος, ένας άλλος είναι Ελληνόφωνος Γερμανός, ένας άλλος είναι Ελληνόφωνος Γάλλος, ένας ένας άλλος Ελληνόφωνος Ζαμπιανός και ένας άλλος Ελληνόφωνος Αυστραλός.
Χαχαχακαταπληκτικο!!ενα!ανεκδοτο θυμήθηκα!το τίνος είναι βρε γυναίκα τα παιδιά?το ένα μου φωνάζει No το άλλο μου φωνάζει ya τίνος είναι βρε γυναίκα τα παιδιά?
Ακριβώς έχουν Ελληνικό DNA 98%,αν δεις έναν τούρκο πού έχει ρίζα Μογγολικο θα τον ξεχωρίσεις,αυτοί είναι Έλληνες από τούς Έλληνες τότες τις Κωνσταντινούπολης από μαμάδες ελληνίδες.
I am really surprised the way history has been changed from some very good “friends” especially those claiming (falsely on purpose of course) that Ethiopians or Pashtuns from Pakistan or Pathan from Afghanistan are related to “King Salomon”. When Asian army of 400,000 soldiers invaded the Eastern Roman Empire the population of Asia Minor was exceeding 20,000,000. They just changed regime and some of them religion and dilect (which is related to Finish). No matter Islam or Christianity the vast majority (despite numerous genocides) are Ellines (Greeks). One day we will all be united again.
I am learning Turkish and it is a completely different language , the ressemblence is only in the structure but for the rest it has nothing to do with finnish, moreover Turkish is a language not a dialect from the stupid things you write you must be a nationalist Greek .Turkish people are not Greek and Greeks must stay in Greece and Turks in Turkey every other option means war
Valerio Vitullo I think you are totally confused. Only a small example, this is a new country, state entity, created in 1923 by the big powers of that time for specific reasons. No need to explain the difference between language and dialect. You have just scratched the surface of the “la question d’ orient”” and I think it is better to carry on with your study cause it requires a lot of examination to understand and realize all the historical facts of this subject with global consequences. First study, do your research and then try to characterize other people with terms that you probable do not understand their meaning and have lead you to totally false conclusion.
@@user-xx4im2mr7o It is true that Turkish have the same Grammer rules with Finnish and also Hungarian. But thats all. I suggest you to visit İzmir, Istanbul, Trabzon and Cappadocia. You will see that only difference between you and me is the language. I am not a Greek king or an Ottoman sultan. So I did not decide to occupy anywhere or design the borders. But I am an Anatolian of both Greek and Turkish culture. If only we all could understand that. If you really want conquer Anatolia, come and be my guest. I will teach you every corner of it. Then you will see that you are not a guest. You are already a part of it.
Οι τσακωνες καλε μου φιλε δεν ειναι Λακωνες ειναι Αρκαδες τσακωνια(Λεωνιδιο τυρος....)με δικη τους διαλεκτο τα τσακωνικα πολλες λεξεις απο την αρχαια Δωρικη.
Τσακωνία ονομαζόταν η περιοχή απο τη Νεάπολη της Λακωνίας εως την σημερινή Αρκαδία. Φυσικά και είναι Λάκωνες φυλετικά. Στο νέο ελληνικό κράτος τα εδάφη αυτά πέρασαν διοικητικά στην Αρκαδία. Έτσι και αλλιώς δεν υπάρχει και μεγάλη διαφορά. Εννοείται πως παλαιότερα ομιλούσαν τη διάλεκτο αυτή στη Λακωνία αλλά εξανδραπόδισαν τους κατοίκους μετά τα Ορλοφικά. Προστέθηκαν μετά στα εδάφη αυτά Κρητικοί αγωνιστές, Μανιάτες κλπ και η διάλεκτος χάθηκε. Παραμένουν κάποιες λέξεις φυσικά όπως κόκιασε (κόπιασε), πιργιόνι (πριόνι) κλπ. Τσακώνικα έχω ακούσει παλαιότερα και απο Λάκωνες, περισσότερο απο γυναίκες. Αναφέρομαι σε συγγενικά μου πρόσωπα οπότε ξέρω καλά γιατί μιλάω. Λίγα ξέρω και εγώ, οτι θυμάμαι. Ο τσακώνικος οικισμός Βάτικα στην Προποντίδα απο τους Τσάκωνες των Βατίκων Λακωνίας ονομάστηκε έτσι και στο Χαβουτσί απο την ευρύτερη περιοχή της Μονεμβασίας. Ελπίζω να καταλαβαίνεις πως μιλάω και να μην το πάρεις τοπικιστικά.
Νο we are not, any of those things neither any family, nor we have any "argue". You are just a complete idiot. And speak only for yourself. This doesn't express nor represents any Greek.
στα Χωριά Οβάγιανετζέ κοντά στην Τσατάλτζα (45 χλμ δυτικά-βορειοδυτικά της Κωνσταντινούπολης) και στο Γιενίκιοΐ, ακριβώς πάνω από το νέο αεροδρόμιο "Ιστανμπουλ", δίπλα στη Μαύρη Θάλασσα! Καλημέρα!
@@ΡΑΜΑΔΑΝΚΟΥΡΑΚ Εννοείται ότι δεν αμφιβάλλεις αλλα πανω απο 70% στην χώρα σου είναι Ρωμιοί από την βυζαντινή αυτοκρατορία Το ιδιο και στο Ρωμεικο πανω απο το 70 % είναι αλλες φυλές που δηλώνουν ελληνες
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله ، يا اخي ، No , I am not from Larissa , I am leaving in Germany . Of course , nationality and DNA are not Important for Muslims , as I mentioned Islam ist for all mankind . On Yawm al Qiamah we will be judged over our Din . Nevertheless it is not forbidden for a Muslim to get information about his own roots . The ancestors of those people were Greeks who converted to Islam . In Pontos are still leaving thousands of Pontos Greeks who are speaking pontiaka and call themselves Rum . Today they are of course Muslims and have got the Turkish citizenship . Salamat .
They may be a folk named Patriots, since the population exchange was based on religion instead of national identity, many Turkish speaking orthodox citizens left Turkey and Greek speaking muslims came instead. As far as i know, when Turks came from Greece they were speaking in Turkish so i suppose those granddads in the video might be Patriots (greek speaking muslims).
Bunlar ya Makedonya'dan göç etmiş Türkler (geldiklerinde komşu milletler olan Makedonların ve Yunanlıların dilini biliyorlardı,aralarında Vaalades denilen bir grup da vardı ama çok az sayıda) ya da Girit kökenliler (Giritli Müslümanlar karışık bir etnik köken sahipti, yarı Grek yarı Türk denilebilir, ama çoğunlukla Yunanca konuşuyorlardı). Muhtemelen Makedonya kökenliler. Eğer öyleyse Yunan eğitim sistemi ve devleti tarafından Yunanca eğitimden geçirildikleri uzunca bir dönem var. Doğal olarak oradan gelmiş olanlar hatırladıkları kadarıyla konuşabiliyorlar. Nüfus mübadelesi sırasında bizden Yunanistan'a gönderilen 1 milyon Ortodoks Hristiyanin 650 bini Türk kökenli ve Yunanca bilmeyen Karamanlılar idi (beylik olan Karamanlılar ile karıştırma, bunlar Bizans döneminde Balkanlardaki Peçenek, Oğuz ve Kumanlardan Hristiyanlığa devsirilerek Sasanilere karşı Anadolu'ya yerleştirilmiş, Türkçe konuşup Türkçeyi Yunan alfabesiyle yazan Hristiyan Türkler). Benzer şekilde bizim buraya gelen 900 bin (bazı Yunanlılar 1.5 milyon diyor ama yanlış, öyle olsa o sırada Yunanistan nüfusu 2.5 milyon idi, çoğunluk Türklerde olması gerekirdi; ama değildi) Müslüman Türk'ün içinde 40 bin kadar Makedonya kökenli ve 45-50 bin kadar da Giritli Müslüman da vardı (Türkiye nüfusu 11 milyondu o zaman). Kısacası bu amcalar büyük olasılıkla sadece oradan göçtüğü için Yunanca da bile kökeni de Türk amcalar, ama bir ihtimalle bu bahsettiğim iki gruptan birine de dayanıyor olabilir kökleri. Eğer öyleyse Yunanlı youtuber bayağı arayıp bulmuş olmalı, sayıları çok az çünkü.
@@bedeviavcs5983 onlar Hristiyan türk değil yünan olduklari icin lozan anlaşmasına göre değiş tokuş yapildilar ordaki türkler hani türkce bilmeyenler Türkiyeye geldi
@@krksanya7373 rumlarla birlikte bizim hristiyan Türkler de gönderildi. Hatta Türk oldukları için yunanlar dışlamış. Murat Bardakçı'nın programında uzun uzun konuşuldu bu konu.
It makes me so sad that an former empire with such an concentration of different religions and minorities broked so hard. German speech says: „homeland is there where your heart beats“ I hope one day my friends the aggression between turkey,Greece, Armenia and other minorities who forced to leave this country come back and live in peace and harmony In the path of his ancestors 😘 🇬🇷🇦🇲🇨🇾🇹🇷
I love my Greek Brothers and Sisters !!! Peace Forever !! Love from a Turk
@La bocca della verità ja jaa shinetzel jaaahh
Peace Bro
I felt more home Istanbul than here in cold hamburg... Peace my friends ❤️
I know Im asking the wrong place but does any of you know of a trick to get back into an Instagram account..?
I stupidly forgot the password. I would appreciate any help you can give me
@Corey Christopher instablaster :)
I am Turk and I love Greece and the people. I have many Greek friends in Australia. We get along very well. Its politicians and the fanatics that make problems. Specially in football matches. Σεβασμός
❤️🇹🇷
Take one DNA test you will be suprised
@@gamma4053
Lol Armenians Greeks I bet you are Byzantine apostate I mean your grand grand fathers
@@gamma4053
These things happened several generations back in the history many centuries it's not a phenomenon of the 20th century..
Back then Christians often change their religion in order to survive
@@gamma4053 You think that this is the history of Turkey but I tell you this is the history of the Byzantine Empire and the Greeks of Asia minor
We all connected in some way ! I am coming from anatolia Pontus and Kappadokia
Ke emis stin Ukraine kserume elinika. Elines imaste ke emis😘
Bravo elines
Μέχρι την Κριμεα έφτασε η Ελλάδα 🇬🇷🇬🇷
Μπράβο κοπέλα μου!Έλληνες για πάντα!
Εύξεινος Πόντος.... υπήρχαν πολλές Ελληνικές πόλεις !
@@MiddleEast-o4f μόνο πολλές? Ο πόντος, η Θράκη, η σημερινή "Constanca" ο Βόσπορος της Κριμαίας, σεβαστουπολη...Παντού ήταν οι πρόγονοί μας.
Ne güzel insanlar! Sizi çok seviyorum. Μπράβο κύριε Γαρέλα.
ευχαριστώ κ. Φίλη!
Hepimiz Osmanlıyız 🇹🇷🇧🇦🇽🇰🇦🇱🇲🇰🇬🇷🤗🤗🤗
I am in tears from the WONDERFUL Comments of Turks expressing affection for US Greeks. We need to REACH across our Emotional and Physical borders and EMBRACE these people who want us all to LIVE in Peace and Brotherhood. May these sentiments Expressed by these Turk Brothers extend and Expand to include the Government of Turkey! Teşekkürler Kardeşler!!! NYC GREEK
DNA tests show that Turks have Greek genes. Especially on the western side of Turkiye
A message to the Greek and Turkey government look at this video. The Turkish and Greek people love each other . And so beautiful there are Turkish people they can talk Greek and Greek people they can talk Turkish. Whe wants peace not war with Turkey
Our culture is very similar, our songs, our foods are similar. Turks and Greeks want friendship, respect from Turkey..
🙋🏻♂️❤ great message bro. Greetings to greece
half of greece is still occupied by turks , as soon as greek cities are free , greeks and turks can be the best friends in the world.
u see just because turks occupy greek territories for so long it doesnt mean they ever belong to them.
ask the jews who waited 2000 years to get back their city jerusalem, the same will do the greek with the capital of the greek world, CONSTANTINOPOLIS .
once the turkish occupation ends, the greek can start becoming friends with ppl who dont keep stolen stuff from their neighbours, see thats how easy it is to have peace in the world.
I was thinking of sharing the same.
@@horror11 we dont have peace just because of idiots like you
Πιστεύω ότι θα είμαστε και πάλι μαζί. Αγάπη από την Τουρκία 🇹🇷❤️🇬🇷
Kemalizm türk faşizminin diğer adıdır. Daha neye aşık olduğunu bilmeden altına almışsın
@@citizienoftheworld4046 Ben faşistim.
@@kemalizm750 o zaman adam değilsin sktr git
Siktir ol git ozaman,birlikte olmak istiyorsan..
Then there is hope for the world! Bravo!
I'm crying. Years of happiness :) thank you for posting this.
thank you very much for your comments!
αυτο το βιντεο δειχνει την απολυτη παιδεια!!!! Σεβασμοσ και μονο ! Χαιρετισμους απο μια Ελλνιδα που ζει εισ την Πολην!!
Χαιρετισμούς κοπελιά από τη Λαμία Φθιώτιδας να σαι καλά.
Привет от грека живущего в России.
The people in the video speak greek as maternal language. They are not turks. They were exchanged because they were muslims. They are greek muslims. But in turkey kemal attaturk created a nation by unifying different nations together under the umbrella of turkey and islam. He considered anyone muslim a turk. Kemal attaturk himself was an albanian muslim. Qemal is a very common albanian name. Kemal s father was from a village in the border of modern day north macedonia and albania. He was not from thessaloniki as the turks say.
Χαιρετισμούς στους Ρωμιούς και Οθωμανούς απο Έλληνα της Διασποράς.
@@antek-vj5ey Ali Rıza oğlu Mustaf alias Atatürk was a Dömne, a Crypto-Jewish, and had slavic origins, or mixed Albanian-Slavic.
Love and Respect from Sürmene-Trabzon
Yes friend 🇬🇷❤️👌🤝
Big hugs from Turkey to our lovely neighbour Greece, love you guys ❤️❤️❤️
TESEKKUR EDERIZ!!!
@@KostasGarelas ❤️😘
Γεια σου Γείτονα!❤
Merhaba canım ❤@@spyruskaras7215
Same mannerisms, same features
We are one, but divided by leaders
We know that our situation is tough
But as time passes we will see eachother's love
Many turks in istanbul and along the coast have definitely greek heritage and DNA, believe it or not, thats true.
No, of course
Hiç birisi you try to hide from the truth Im a christian from trabzon who is hiding and says hes muslim because people like you will kill me as they did to my grandparents 100 ago. Pontus still exists
@@alextraios discord.gg/gnC7bvS
@@umutcanylmaz1436 ...Greeks are a 3.000 year old Native nation....TURKS?.....WHAT TURKS?.....THE MONGOL TURKIC PEOPLE THAT ARE LESS THAN 20% OF MODERN "TURKEY"?.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....GODDAMN INSANE....
@@umutcanylmaz1436 Mate they massively converted to Islam. So there was no need for Suni women or Suni men. In just one day they all became Muslims. They had to choose this or death. Do a DNA test to see what you are. If you are a pure Turk you must look like Turkmeni. I do respect the fact that you feel Muslim and Turk.. Erdoan has Greek roots although he feels Turk 100%.
we speak Romeyka (Rumca)
im Greek Pontian ( Pontus Rumlar ) from Trabzon - Gumushane / Macka
Kai dio papoudes mou kai h dio kalomanas mou apo ton Ordu, genithika stin Australia alla mia mera tha pao sto Ordu na ziso tis rises mou. Na zisi o Pontos. De kratao misos stous Tourkos, giati h perisotiri mas agapane kai kseroun tin alithia kai pistvo mas extimoun gia tin kardia pou exoun h Ponti.
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I love greeks . We are brothers ❤🇹🇷🇬🇷
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Turks and Greeks are Brother...
Never!!!
Nick Name no no
@@thmp1469 why
❤️🇬🇷🇹🇷💙
Στατά είναι...
Beautiful video, brings history to life...
We have similar DNA...and traditions !
The fact that some turks are islamised Greeks (traitors) doesn't mean that we have similar genes
@@ΓεώργιοςΤζωρτζουλάκης unfortunately we have similar genes with greeks. But greeks are our enemies so we are not brothers or friends. Stay away from my country little greeks. You have no place in Turkey.
@@yarenguney6410 Having greek dna is not the unfortunate thing,as 30% of today turkish population have greek dna.Even Erdogan comes from greek vilage in Pontos..Turks come from the mountain Altay in Mongolia,you are Mongols,nothing to do with europeans and our culture.Greek dna,culture, language is still strong throughout the Mediterranean and is going to stay that way..
@@traveler9283 stay away my country little greek
@PONTICUS heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship server if you want to join send me your account
I love this. My papou spoke Turkish on mytilini
Babana sevgiler
I remember my grandfather speaking in almost the same language,which is called Rumeika. In 1780th the Greeks left their settlements in the Crimea and came to the steppe not far from the Sea of Azove.There they founded the city of Mariupol and numerous villages.This video just reminded me of that culture.
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What your ancestors spoke is Pontic Greek, but these people speak a different Greek dialect. Their ancestors came from Macedonia and that’s why they speak a typical northern Greek dialect(the regions of Kozani and Grevena in west Macedonia, though one of them said his origin is from Drama, in east Macedonia).
@@kostas68 With all due respect, I have to say that Rumeika
should be regarded as
a separate Greek dialect or even a group of Greek dialects.And Pontic similarities were not generally accepted.
@@developer3406 Pontic is to a certain extend aberrant from all other Greek dialects, because it was isolated from the rest of the Greek-speaking world for some centuries and thus it has not undergo the same evolution and kept many archaisms that have disappeared long ago from other Greek dialects. Some 30 years ago I had the opportunity to talk with a Pontian who came to Greece from Russia just 3-4 months before and so his speech was not influenced by standard Greek, he spoke only Pontian. Judging by that experience, I'd say the mutual intelligibility between Pontic and standard Greek is around 80-85%.
This is amazing - does your grandfather come from the Greek minority in Ukraine?
Judging by the Greek dialect they speak (clearly a northern Greek dialect), they are in all probability descendants of the so-called 'Vaalades", i.e. Greeks of the Grevena-Kozani region in the West Macedonia province of Greece who converted to Islam around late 18th-early 19th century. Their native language was Greek but since they were Muslims they were sent to Turkey, according to the terms of the population exchange treaty between Greece and Turkey
More videos with Vaalades:
ruclips.net/video/WFte6uXeYYg/видео.html
More videos with Vaalades:
ruclips.net/video/WFte6uXeYYg/видео.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vallahades
@Jd Pv you either are silly person and some strange troll , either some delusional guy who willingly does not want to learn History, either some child . You my dear Northern Macedonian friend are Slavic People who was living in Macedonia since Byzantine times , thats a fact . Your "arguments" are well known for 10 years , every time you copy paste the same stuff . Greeks are not your enemies , yes we had some problems in Past between bulgarian/slavic populations and Greeks in Macedonia since second balkan war till the civil war in Greece , we just as you made many bad things to each other and i will not comment on which side started first cause it has no point , but in our society we speak about those things openly we discuss our history and we try to be fair .We want to have good relationships with you, just as we have them with Bulgaria but for that you should also change , accept common history stop being feed brainwashing propaganda stop claiming that you have something to do with Greek history and become modern European country , its for your own good dear friend .
Jd Pv Hilarious Skopian troll
Ο απλος λαος δεν εχει να χωρισει τιποτα καταλαβαιτε το πρεπει οι λαοι να ειναι μονιασμενοι και αγαπημενοι
Ο απλός λαός ψηφίζει τον Ερντογάν. Τσακώνονται οι Τούρκοι πολιτικοί προεκλογικά για το πόσα νησιά θα πάρουν για να κερδίσουν την ψήφο του "απλού" λαού. Αυτό αρέσει στην "απλό" λαό. Έλεος ορισμένοι με τα λογίδρια για την Α΄ Δημοτικού.
My ancestors were migrated from nasliç, where is called as neopoli in greek language, to İstanbul. They were speaking only greek language When came to İstanbul. We are called "patriyot'. ✋
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That was so nice to watch :) Thank you for this video!
Love to turks, I wish you were in Eu so I could visit your beautiful county and you can come visit mine
🇬🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇬🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
Hey bro as a turk byzatine empire is very imporatnt. we are love history for example our leader Ataturk 's idol is empreor kostantin for example so dont hate us
Only through love we stop a war. Turks are brothers.
Η προφορά τους μοιάζει πάρα πολύ με την προφορά που έχουν οι γερόντοι στον Έβρο!!!!
ΚΑΙ ΤΑ ΧΑΡΑΚΤΗΡΙΣΤΙΚΑ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΣΩΠΩΝ ΤΟΥΣ ΣΤΟ ΠΕΡΑΣΜΑ ΤΩΝ ΧΡΟΝΩΝ ΠΑΡΑΜΕΝΟΥΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ!!!
Valkania.
Εβρος! Α! τι μου θυμησες τωρα! 1974-1976. 28 μηνες φανταρος! Σουφλι, μανδρα, κυριακη, προτοκλησι, μικρο δεριο, μεγαλο δεριο, αμοριο, ψαθαδες, κισσαριο, λαβαρα, ψηλος σταλος, κυανη, κουφοβουνο, διδυμοτειχο. Εβρος! Το πιο ομορφο μερος της Ελλαδος! Και οι κατοικοι του, πατριωτες Ελληνες. Το κρατος τους εχει παραμελημενους. Βαστατε γερα πατριωτες Εβριτες!🇬🇷🤝👍
@@AndreasKoutris όντως είναι οφθαλμοφανής η παραμελημένη από το κράτος βόρια μεριά του Έβρου, μόλις περάσεις το τελωνείο των Κήπων βλέπεις την διαφορά.
Αλήθεια και ο κος που του είπε μοιάζεις με Δραμινο ισχύει!
We lived with Greeks for centuries. I always feel ashamed for that we can’t speak Greek. We’re like siblings. In the end we both suffered and broke each other’s heart for no reason. We should have spoken our languages. I wish politicians focus on our similarites rather than political games. We should learn more about our languages and cultures. Greetings from Turkey dear Greek friends, we’re neighbours, we’re friends and we are united by hearts. We will beat dirty political games with our long live friendship 💕💕💕
İngilizcede yazılmış çok heyecanlı ve doğru yorumunuz için çok teşekkür ederim sayın Ebru hanım. Ben de sizin için düşünüyorum ve inanıyorum yani biz Yunanlılar ve Türkler kardeş halklarımız. Ben biraz yıllar önce biraz Türkçe öğrendim ve Türk İnsanları ve sizin kültürünüzü yakından çok daha iyi öğrendim. Çok iyi Türk arkadaşlarım tanıdım. Öbürünün dili öğrenmek bence çok önemli, çünkü anahtar gibi kültürün ve yaşamın kapısı açılır. Ben yalnız Türkçe değil, çok diğer yabancı diller öğrendim, hepsi kendi öğrenmeye kurs kitaplar ile. Maalesef özel okul bir dil öğrenmeye giderken sıkça maalesef çok pahalı ve çok yavaş bir süreç oluyor. Size de kolayca Yunanca öğrenmeyi diliyorum!
@@KostasGarelas Sözleriniz çok tatlı :) Umarım ben de Yunancamı geliştirme şansı bulurum 😊
Çok guzel!!! Greeting from Crete Greece arkadaş
@@mikej.chrisoulakis8250 geia sou geitona! :)
Adamsin! Very well said.By the way you look stunning in your picture
This is what our relationship should look like! I’m very happy after watching this. Let’s just let the past be in the past and get along well with each other. Because we are both Mediterranean people and look so similar. Peace 🇬🇷 🇹🇷 ❤
Μπράβο. Απλά αυτό ! Και ένα μεγάλο ευχαριστώ!
Bölgemizin iki büyük medeni halklarının sevgi saygı medeniyet sevinçleri acıları duyguları aynı yunanlı türk halkına böyle güzellikler yakışır iki halkın sözde milliyetçileri bu masun insanlara çok acılar çekmesine sebeb oldular hepsi yerin dibine batsın pısırıklar korkaklar kalpleri yok ama bundan sonraki yıllarda bilinçlenen halklar bu acılara izin vermeyecek yaşasın türk yunan komşuluğu iste poli kali antropik efharisto poli
TESEKKUR EDERIM COK, SAG OL!!!
Είσαι ωραίος άνθρωπος! you are so good man!!! congratulations!!!!!
My great grandparents came from Instabul Ordu and Trabson
also My grandparents came from Thessaloniki my brother
Μπράβο Δημήτρη, στα τουρκικά ονόματα είσαι πρώτος
Δεν υπάρχει φίλε μου για εμάς Ισταμπούλ αλλά Κωνσταντίνου πόλη !
Όπως επίσης το άλλο λέγεται Τραπεζούντα δεν θα μας αλλάξουν τά πατρογονικά ονόματα τών εδαφών πού μας καταπάτησαν
@@ΒαγγεληςΝοτης πες τα ρε με τον μαλακα
Ελλάδα Τουρκία 😍
Hellas everywhere and for ever!!!! 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
Harikalar, çok güzel, burası neresi acaba😊
IYI GUNLER! BURASI OVAYENICE KOYU, CATALCA, VE YENIKOY, YENI ISTANBUL HAVALIΜΑΝΙNIN KITASINDA. :)
Aaa hiç bilmiyordum, iyi oldu bnde Üsküdar danim
Μπράβο Κωνσταντίνε ωραίο βίντεο ο κύριος που είπε ότι είναι από Τσακνοχώρι είναι στο νόμο βοιου Κοζάνης υπάρχουν ερείπια και μαρτυρίες ότι υπήρχαν Τούρκοι στην περιοχή κατά καιρούς έρχονται λεωφορεία με Τούρκους για να δουν την γη από ζούσαν οι πρόγονοι τους!!επισης η τοπική μουσική είναι τα χάλκινα όπως στο τέλος του βίντεο σου!!!
Έτσι ακριβώς είναι έρχονται κάθε χρόνο στο χωριό μάς..Έχω συνομιλήσει με αρκετούς όλοι ισχυρίζονται ότι είναι ελληνικής καταγωγής και ότι αδίκως έφυγαν οι πατεράδες τούς απο το χωριό..Συμπληρωματικά λοιπον να επισημάνω πώς έχουν τα ίδια Μουσικά ακούσματα με μάς και χορούς και διατηρουν και κάποια έθιμα όπως ακριβώς και εδώ...έρχονται με φωτογραφίες στα χέρια κτλ μήπως βρούνε τα σπίτια των πατεράδων τούς....Δυστυχώς όμως δεν έμεινε τίποτα πλην ενός παρατημενου μουσουλμανικού νεκροταφείου με αγνώστου ταυτότητος πεθαμένων...οι περισσότεροι αναφέρουν την εκκλησία του Αγίου πνεύματος που όντως υπάρχει ανακαινισμένη φυσικά...γνωρίζουν αρκετά για το χωριό τούς εδώ και υπάρχει ταύτιση των ιστοριών που μεταφέρουν......
eyxaristv pol;y!
Fantastici!
100% sure that there forfathers were greeks. Also there mentality is very different compared to the people of anatolia regions or the inner turkey.
Your forefathers were Turks 100% sure. Also Turks in the West have more turkic dna percentage when east and middle anatolian people have greek and armenian roots. Maybe that's why their mentality is different. Speaking and learning a language doesn't change your ethnicity. Also Greece Greeks learnt how to be modern civilized developed humans from after istanbul greeks migrated away. You learn modernity from them
Also Greeks are much more darker than them. Greeks look like Indos
@@ai-kt3hy lol sure arab
@@ai-kt3hy you talk rubbish.My family half was very fair blond and the other half Mediterranean.People living in mountains are more fair.
All i can say is greece and turkey is the same
Even how it looks
The streets the food
I shall reply to Mr. Konstantinos about Vaalades. The same hapens in Turkey when people left in 1924. People who where christians stayed in Turkey and there were some first cousins that they are in Trabzon besides the othes came here in Greece.
We will be eachother again. Its my dream. 🇹🇷🇬🇷
Dostum. Çatalca'ya göç edeli 6 yıl oldu. 6 yıldır Rumca konuşan köy olduğunu bilmiyordum Emeğinize yüreğinize sağlık teşekkür ederim.
Burası hangi köydü. Sormayı unuttum
Το τραγούδι που λέει ο κύριος στο 10:30, το λέει και η γιαγιά μου από το Βόιο Κοζάνης.
2 millet yıllarca beraber yaşadı osmanlı döneminde.normal Türkçe Yunanca bilmeleri.siyasi ve din konusu bizi ayırıyor.yoksa her şey aynı.Yunanistana gittimde şaşırdım ilk hiç bir fark yok:))
@Ahmet Mehmet Bunlar ya Makedonya'dan göç etmiş Türkler (geldiklerinde komşu milletler olan Makedonların ve Yunanlıların dilini biliyorlardı,aralarında Vaalades denilen bir grup da vardı ama çok az sayıda) ya da Girit kökenliler (Giritli Müslümanlar karışık bir etnik köken sahipti, yarı Grek yarı Türk denilebilir, ama çoğunlukla Yunanca konuşuyorlardı). Muhtemelen Makedonya kökenliler. Eğer öyleyse Yunan eğitim sistemi ve devleti tarafından Yunanca eğitimden geçirildikleri uzunca bir dönem var. Doğal olarak oradan gelmiş olanlar hatırladıkları kadarıyla konuşabiliyorlar. Nüfus mübadelesi sırasında bizden Yunanistan'a gönderilen 1 milyon Ortodoks Hristiyanin 650 bini Türk kökenli ve Yunanca bilmeyen Karamanlılar idi (beylik olan Karamanlılar ile karıştırma, bunlar Bizans döneminde Balkanlardaki Peçenek, Oğuz ve Kumanlardan Hristiyanlığa devsirilerek Sasanilere karşı Anadolu'ya yerleştirilmiş, Türkçe konuşup Türkçeyi Yunan alfabesiyle yazan Hristiyan Türkler). Benzer şekilde bizim buraya gelen 900 bin (bazı Yunanlılar 1.5 milyon diyor ama yanlış, öyle olsa o sırada Yunanistan nüfusu 2.5 milyon idi, çoğunluk Türklerde olması gerekirdi; ama değildi) Müslüman Türk'ün içinde 40 bin kadar Makedonya kökenli ve 45-50 bin kadar da Giritli Müslüman da vardı (Türkiye nüfusu 11 milyondu o zaman).
Kısacası bu amcalar büyük olasılıkla sadece oradan göçtüğü için Yunanca da bile kökeni de Türk amcalar, ama bir ihtimalle bu bahsettiğim iki gruptan birine de dayanıyor olabilir kökleri. Eğer öyleyse Yunanlı youtuber bayağı arayıp bulmuş olmalı, sayıları çok az çünkü.
@@boraboranloglu9489 tespitlerin çoğu doğru ama hatalarda var bu dayılar büyük ihitmalle patriyot istanbula trakyaya yerleşenler Patriyotlar aslında müslüman yunanlar. trakya da patriyot nufüsü hayli kalabalık ama kimse yunanız demez. belki değiller ama tek yunanca konuşan müslüman topluluk patriyotlar. giritten gelenler ise türk daha çok akdeniz ve egeye yerleşmişlerdir. Patriyotlarda mübadele ile gelenler çoğunlukta olduğu gibi balkan savaşları sonrasında kaçarak gelenlerde mevcut.
Mübadele ile göç etmiş patriyotlar yani rum asıllı müslümanlardır. Rumdurlar. Fakat zaman geçtikçe asimile olmuşlar ve Türkleşmişlerdir.
I wish my grand father was alive to see this
The mother tongue of the Karamanlides community living in Cappadocia and Central Anatolia was Turkish. None of them knew Greek. If this people are of Greek origin, Karamanlides are also of Turkish origin. Tell us a little bit about the Karamanlides community. The mother tongue of your former prime minister's ancestors was Turkish.
Karamanlides wasn't Turks
They have their own languages wrote Turkish but with greek alphabet
We are Greeks we aren't Turks but Cappadocia was the first region to become ottoman part from minor Asian
Before the 1377 everyone speak only greek and then we beggin to speak both languages
Between 18th-19th century karamanlides were many many fewers than the Turks so the sultan closed the Greeks school and απαγορευσε to speak greek
So the began to speak Turkish and the still write on greek and feel greeks
Thing is, Karamanlis wasn't a karamanli, his surname was probably a coincidence. He was born in Greece before the arrival of the karamanlides, around 1907 (the karamanlides came to Greece in 1923). He was from Serra and no source states any possible descent from Karaman. Basically, surnames playing around.
Now, maybe a very far ancestor of his might have been a karamanli who settled in Greece very early, but years have passed so his turkish descent was probably very small.
Μπράβο σε όλους .
I WITNEST WHEN I WENT TO TRABZON
BLACK SEA ALL THE OLD PEOPLE WERE
SPEAKING OLD GREEK EVEN MODERN DAY
GREEKS DONT UNDERSTAND THE OLD GREEK LANGUAGE
I WAS TOLD DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY THEY STILL
SPEAK OLD GREEK PLEASE...
many greeks converted to islam to avoid the persecutions and taxes of the ottoman empire. Unfortunately although of greek ethnic origin because of their muslim religion were forced to go to turkey by the lossane treaty in 1923
UltraGreen Thessaloniki so also Christian Karamanlı Ortodox Turks have gone to Greece after Lousanne,,So it has been big problem for Turk And Greek people..
@@TekeliYoruk The origin of Karmanlides is more mysterious. If they were of Turkish origin, then why would they convert from Islam to Christianity? So they were either Turks who came there while the Byzantine Empire was still strong and with great cultural influence, or simply Orthodox Greeks who forgot their language after hundrends of years of Turkish occupation but managed to preserve their religion. Eitherway, Karmanlides were a relatively small group of people in comparison with the hundrends of thousands Muslims of Greek origin that were expelled from Greece during the Lousanne treaty.
@KazanKhan The ones who were forcefully kicked out of their homes were the millions of Greeks of Pontus and of Asia Minor and the millions of Armenians who were victims of the Genocide. Also the Greeks of Constantinople who were forcefully had their property destroyed and confiscated during and after the "Istanbul" Pogrom in the 1950s.
Also Greece fought actively fascim and Nazism in ww2 and was actually the first country to win against an axis power (Italy), were was Turkey at that time? Oh yeah, neutral...cowards
@@ultrasgreen1349 Very true!!
Nah They converted to Islam because they wanted and they were tired of the church governance
🇹🇷🇬🇷 forget politics, we are always friends
Forget politics ok, but forget history? Impossible
more correct brothers
Έλα κοντά να δεις φιλίες. Ζωντανούς θα σας φάμε.
@@kyriakoszervinis352 νηστικος εισαι η καποια παραξενη φαρα
@@aiasheracleidis5616 Έλληνες είναι αυτοί, απλά επειδή αλλαξοπίστησαν τους έδιωξε η Ελλάδα και πήγαν στην Τουρκία.
We are friends 🇬🇷❤🇹🇷
🇹🇷🇬🇷👍🏻
Είμαι από την αλλεξανδρουπολη γεννημένος και χαρικα πόλη που βλέπουμε οτη ι τουρκη και η Έλληνες που ηνε καλό είμαστε αδέρφια και αφτα δεν μασ ασχολουθουν πολητικα merhaba ben yunanturkü tüm Osmanlı torunuyum rastizmo yapmayalım yani ırkçılık lütfen biz 2 devlet tek miletiz kardeş ülke yiz
It’s so surreal seeing these Turkish gentlemen conversing in Greek natively.
δεν είναι Τούρκοι!Εξισλαμισμενοι Έλληνες είναι.
это не ТУРКИ, это исламизированные греки, которые еще не забыли родной язык
The people in the video speak greek as maternal language. They are not turks. They were exchanged because they were muslims. They are greek muslims. But in turkey kemal attaturk created a nation by unifying different nations together under the umbrella of turkey and islam. He considered anyone muslim a turk. Kemal attaturk himself was an albanian muslim. Qemal is a very common albanian name. Kemal s father was from a village in the border of modern day north macedonia and albania. He was not from thessaloniki as the turks say.
@@Теметерон correct!
The people in the video speak greek as maternal language. They are not turks. They were exchanged because they were muslims. They are greek muslims. But in turkey kemal attaturk created a nation by unifying different nations together under the umbrella of turkey and islam. He considered anyone muslim a turk. Kemal attaturk himself was an albanian muslim. Qemal is a very common albanian name. Kemal s father was from a village in the border of modern day north macedonia and albania. He was not from thessaloniki as the turks say.
Greek speaking Turks, Turkish speaking Greeks... Istabul is a derivative of Greek word Stinpolis...
Эти песни пели греки в Казахстане куда были высланы с Краснодарского края! Одна культура а судьбы тяжелые
Çok tatlılar 💖💖
MERSI
Greece is every where......
Turks who speak Greek are uncle,They are not Greek.
I am not suprised of that! Because, i know many people who speak Turkish and mother language at the same time... If you are interested in politics, you think Greece and Turkey are in a battle all the time. But if you ask these people, they have been living together since many years. Come to Izmir and you can find and meet many people speaking Greek and Turkish! Best Wishes to Turkey and Greece...
Every person is individual.
Hi Murad... I was wondering whether you can find Greek speaking populations Near smyrni!ismir.
The people on the video speak Greek but in a lower level. Is obvious that they would communicate much better in Turkish. But that's expected.
@@YorgosEU absolutely, you are right.
@Georges Petko I live in İzmir but I had never encountered someone who speaks Greek perfectly in any dialect. But maybe they are communicating between themselves since daily language is Turkish. I have heard that Greek community in Istanbul is more than in İzmir and they can speak Greek fluently. But what is the difference ? I mean is it their pronunciation or grammar ?
@@newbimalfoy9051 I wouldn't know as I never heard any of them... But the truth is that the more you go to the north of Greece the more the musicality of the voice matches Turkish / Armenian musicality. Maybe this has to do with the fact that in North Greece many people had ancestors from Asia minor or pontos area... Then many Greeks when they came to Greece after 1921 spoke Turkish better than Greek. Same like In the UK.. Where second or third generation Indians or Pakistani people speak English better than their ethnic background language.
Μπράβο Ντίνο . Φοβερό ντοκιμαντέρ .
ΕΥΧΑΡΙΣΤΩ ΓΙΑΝΝΗ!!
Πολύ καλή έρευνα!!! Μπράβο σας.
Σε αυτό το χωριό υπάρχει ακόμα το σπίτι των προ παππουδων μου που είχαν φύγει με την ανταλλαγή. το ovayenice δεν είναι;
όπου πάω αγαπάω ναι, στο πρώτο μισό είμαστε στο Οβάγενιτζέ μετά στο Γενίκιοΐ, στη βόρεια άκρη του νέου μεγάλου αεροδρομίου «Ιστανμπουλ» της Κωνσταντινούπολης
Hellenic world must be together!greetings to our brothers in all over the world ❤️❤️❤️
Παντρεύτηκε με το Μουσταφά και καλούς απογόνους γενίτσαρε.
@@kyriakoszervinis352 σε εμένα το λες??ρε καραγκιόζη ξέρεισ με ποιον μιλάς??
@@heraklitheraklit με τουρκοφιλο μιλάω ρε Χατζηαβάτη ραγιά.
@@heraklitheraklit heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship server if you want to join send me your account
Μπράβο ρε φίλε , τωρα το είδα. Και σε άλλα τέτοια.
Actually we are brothers
Μακρια και αγαπημενοι
Μα Έλληνες είναι μερικοί από εκεί. Οι άλλοι μακριά
Βρε παιδιά τι μου θυμίσατε τώρα ο παπους μου και η γιαγιά μου η πρώτη γλώσσα τους ήταν τουρκικά ,άσε που δεν μιλάγανε ελληνικά καθόλου μεταξύ τους ❤️❤️
Μήπως είσαι Τούρκος?
@@kyriakoszervinis352 δεν είμαι Τούρκος και είμαι γυναίκα 😛 Τούρκος ισων άντρας 😛
@@fotinisoiles5223 χαχα μη τον παρεξηγείς το Κυριάκο ο εθνικισμός αν και εισαγώμενος σε στραβώνει. Οι αληθινοί άντρες Κυριάκο είναι οι δημοκρατικοί.
ΑΥΤΟΙ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ.ΟΙ ΔΙΚΟΙ ΣΟΥ;ΚΑΙ ΤΟΥΡΚΟΣ ΑΠΟ ΠΟΤΕ ΣΗΜΑΙΝΕΙ ΑΝΔΡΑΣ;ΣΤΗΝ ΙΣΤΟΡΙΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΓΝΩΣΤΟΙ ΩΣ ΒΑΡΒΑΡΟΙ,ΩΣ ΓΕΝΟΚΤΟΝΟΙ.
Trakya mı ??
Evet, Oavayenice ve Yeniköy
I watched it again when you sent a notification, how well they got along, their sincerity, their warm-bloodedness, it's very nice video
@@zeynepatacantr1215 EVET, BIZ YUNANLULAR VE TURKLEL ARASINDAMIZ COK GUZEL VE SICAKKANLI BIR ILISKIMIZ VAR! BEN MESELA YUNANLI OLUNCA YARIM GUN "TRT TURKU" KANALI DINLIYORUM!
@@KostasGarelas Türkçe biliyor musun??
@@zeynepatacantr1215 evet Zeynep hanım biraz biliyorum. Yıllarca öğrmeye çalıştım şimdi aşağı yukarı anlıyorum ve ne düşünüyorum Türkçe diyebilirim. Türkçe öğrenince ve türkleri tanışınca fark ettim ki genel fikri tam karşısında Türkler bizim Yunanlılar için “can düşmanımız” hiç değil, ama bizim en yakın halk, en yakın millet, bize en iyi dost olabilirler, kardeşler gibi!
Looking more greek..
The first guy looks like turk
Looking more Turkish, Greeks look like iranics. Or you don't know you are looking more Turk..
We look similar maybe because of the climate and current geographical factors. And we both have native anatolian dna such as frikians hittites etc.
Greeks in Turkey are much more whiter than Greeks in Greece
@@ai-kt3hy cause they are(rums) hellenized anotolian
Ο δραμινος πραγματικά είναι ο ορισμός του δραμινου... εμφάνιση στιλ βλέμμα..!
😂😂😂
Πραγματικά απόλυτα Δραμινος!
Bir denizin çocukları
english subtitles maybe ..? I dont speak greek 😊
🇹🇷🇹🇷💖🇬🇷🇬🇷
Long live Greece and Turkey ... the closest brothers and sisters
İzmir'de de bulursunuz. Hatta İzmirde makedonca, bulgarca, arnavutça, sırpça konuşanları da bulursunuz. Hepsi Balkan insanlarıdır ve 1950'den beri hep birlikte yaşarlar. Belki de daha eskidir. Benim dedem balkan topraklarından Yugoslavya'dan... O yüzden eksi topraklar hem Türkçe hem de kendi doğduğu yerlerin dilini konuşurlar. Ben ise Makedonca dilini çat pat konuşsam da anlayabiliyorum. Balkan insanı candır. Hem geldiği yeri hem de yaşadığı yeri her daim yaşatır.. Sevgiler...
Murat.aydin..matafraseta.Elinika.
Oi.kapois.pou.kseri.parakalo.
ta.grafomena.tou.iparxoun.smirni
Kai.alou.stin.tourkia.poles.gloses.paradosis.antalaksimon.apo.valkania.
Ginete.kostantine.k.euxaristo.
@Ali Al-Yunaniω θεοί ,έγινε φίλε ότι πιστεύεις οκ,δεν έχω σκοπό να σου αλλάξω γνώμη φίλε μου . Αρκεί να είσαι καλός άνθρωπος . Όλα τα άλλα χρέωσε τα στην φωτιά.
Also Karamanlides people speak Turkish. They didn’t know Greek language.
Η γιαγιά μου ήτανε από ΑΤΑΛΙΑ
Great....
Η μία γιαγιά μου ήταν Ελληνόφωνη Τούρκα από την Τραπεζούντα
Γεννήθηκε μετά το 1923 όπου ο Πόντος βρίσκεται υπό Τουρκική Κατοχή.
Η άλλη γιαγιά μου ήταν Ελληνόφωνη Αιγύπτια από την Αλεξάνδρεια
Γεννήθηκε μετά το 1923 όπου η Αλεξάνδρεια βρίσκεται υπό Αιγυπτιακή Κατοχή.
Οι Παππούδες μου ήταν Δωδεκανήσιοι Ελληνόφωνοι Οθωμανοί.
Γεννήθηκαν πριν το 1917 όπου τα Δωδεκάνησα ήταν υπό Οθωμανική Κατοχή.
Ο Πατέρας μου ήταν Δωδεκανήσιος Ελληνόφωνος Ιταλός.
Γεννήθηκε μετά το 1917 και πριν το 1944 όπου τα Δωδεκάνησα ήταν υπό Ιταλική Κατοχή.
Η Μητέρα μου ήταν Δωδεκανήσια Ελληνόφωνη Βρετανή.
Γεννήθηκε ανάμεσα στο 1944 και 1947 όπου τα Δωδεκάνησα ήταν υπό Βρετανική Κατοχή.
Εγώ είμαι Δωδεκανήσιος Ελληνόφωνος Έλληνας.
Γεννήθηκα μετά από το 1947 όπου τα Δωδεκάνησα βρίσκονται υπό Ελληνική Κατοχή.
Ένας πρώτος μου ξάδερφος είναι Ελληνόφωνος Αμερικάνος, ένας άλλος είναι Ελληνόφωνος Γερμανός,
ένας άλλος είναι Ελληνόφωνος Γάλλος, ένας ένας άλλος Ελληνόφωνος Ζαμπιανός και ένας άλλος Ελληνόφωνος Αυστραλός.
Social Mathematics -Από φαντασία πάμε καλά!
Χαχαχακαταπληκτικο!!ενα!ανεκδοτο θυμήθηκα!το τίνος είναι βρε γυναίκα τα παιδιά?το ένα μου φωνάζει No το άλλο μου φωνάζει ya τίνος είναι βρε γυναίκα τα παιδιά?
Έλληνες είναι ρε παιδιά και δε το ξέρουν.....💙🇬🇷💙
Ακριβώς έχουν Ελληνικό DNA 98%,αν δεις έναν τούρκο πού έχει ρίζα Μογγολικο θα τον ξεχωρίσεις,αυτοί είναι Έλληνες από τούς Έλληνες τότες τις Κωνσταντινούπολης από μαμάδες ελληνίδες.
Τουλα ο ένας είναι φτυστος ο παππούς μου φτυστος μιλάμε,δεν ζει όμως :-(,είναι Έλληνες αυτοί και όχι ελληνόφωνοι όπως γράφει στο βίντεο.
@@maiksiam6823 πόσο πολύ έχουν μπερδέψει τον κόσμο.....💙🇬🇷💙
Toula Taltsidis Δεν έχει λογική βάση αυτό. Για να είσαι Έλληνας σημαίνει ότι το ξέρεις. Η εθνικότητα είναι θέμα πεποίθησης όχι γονιδίων.
@@ddpmk355 και τα δύο........
I am really surprised the way history has been changed from some very good “friends” especially those claiming (falsely on purpose of course) that Ethiopians or Pashtuns from Pakistan or Pathan from Afghanistan are related to “King Salomon”. When Asian army of 400,000 soldiers invaded the Eastern Roman Empire the population of Asia Minor was exceeding 20,000,000. They just changed regime and some of them religion and dilect (which is related to Finish). No matter Islam or Christianity the vast majority (despite numerous genocides) are Ellines (Greeks). One day we will all be united again.
I am learning Turkish and it is a completely different language , the ressemblence is only in the structure but for the rest it has nothing to do with finnish, moreover Turkish is a language not a dialect from the stupid things you write you must be a nationalist Greek .Turkish people are not Greek and Greeks must stay in Greece and Turks in Turkey every other option means war
Valerio Vitullo I think you are totally confused. Only a small example, this is a new country, state entity, created in 1923 by the big powers of that time for specific reasons. No need to explain the difference between language and dialect. You have just scratched the surface of the “la question d’ orient”” and I think it is better to carry on with your study cause it requires a lot of examination to understand and realize all the historical facts of this subject with global consequences. First study, do your research and then try to characterize other people with terms that you probable do not understand their meaning and have lead you to totally false conclusion.
I agree Valerio.
@@user-xx4im2mr7o It is true that Turkish have the same Grammer rules with Finnish and also Hungarian. But thats all. I suggest you to visit İzmir, Istanbul, Trabzon and Cappadocia. You will see that only difference between you and me is the language. I am not a Greek king or an Ottoman sultan. So I did not decide to occupy anywhere or design the borders. But I am an Anatolian of both Greek and Turkish culture. If only we all could understand that. If you really want conquer Anatolia, come and be my guest. I will teach you every corner of it. Then you will see that you are not a guest. You are already a part of it.
μπράβο σου, ακριβός 60 % " τουρκοσ" είναι Έλληνας!!!!
Misleading title.. It should've been "Greeks in Turkey" because we are not Turk!
🇹🇷🇬🇷🙏👍👍👍😍😍
biz dost değiliz hayal dünyasında ya da başka evrende mi yaşıyosunuz biraz gerçekçi olalım hiç bir Türk bi yunanı sevmez
KlarundWahr sende hümanist bi aptalsın galiba
@@eraywayne2165 aynen
Οι τσακωνες καλε μου φιλε δεν ειναι Λακωνες ειναι Αρκαδες τσακωνια(Λεωνιδιο τυρος....)με δικη τους διαλεκτο τα τσακωνικα πολλες λεξεις απο την αρχαια Δωρικη.
Η Αρκαδία παλιά δεν εφτανε στην θάλασσα, το τσακωνες υπάρχει περίπτωση να βγήκε από το εξωλακωνες.Τσακωνικα μιλάμε ακόμα
Τσακωνία ονομαζόταν η περιοχή απο τη Νεάπολη της Λακωνίας εως την σημερινή Αρκαδία. Φυσικά και είναι Λάκωνες φυλετικά. Στο νέο ελληνικό κράτος τα εδάφη αυτά πέρασαν διοικητικά στην Αρκαδία. Έτσι και αλλιώς δεν υπάρχει και μεγάλη διαφορά. Εννοείται πως παλαιότερα ομιλούσαν τη διάλεκτο αυτή στη Λακωνία αλλά εξανδραπόδισαν τους κατοίκους μετά τα Ορλοφικά. Προστέθηκαν μετά στα εδάφη αυτά Κρητικοί αγωνιστές, Μανιάτες κλπ και η διάλεκτος χάθηκε. Παραμένουν κάποιες λέξεις φυσικά όπως κόκιασε (κόπιασε), πιργιόνι (πριόνι) κλπ. Τσακώνικα έχω ακούσει παλαιότερα και απο Λάκωνες, περισσότερο απο γυναίκες. Αναφέρομαι σε συγγενικά μου πρόσωπα οπότε ξέρω καλά γιατί μιλάω. Λίγα ξέρω και εγώ, οτι θυμάμαι. Ο τσακώνικος οικισμός Βάτικα στην Προποντίδα απο τους Τσάκωνες των Βατίκων Λακωνίας ονομάστηκε έτσι και στο Χαβουτσί απο την ευρύτερη περιοχή της Μονεμβασίας. Ελπίζω να καταλαβαίνεις πως μιλάω και να μην το πάρεις τοπικιστικά.
im greek i understand what there saying and i know that theyre speaking greek but there grammar is off
Whereas your grammar in your native English is ....not off !!!( there ...there )
@George : 👏😆Bravo ))👍
Greeks and Turks are brothers and sisters. As in every good family sometimes they argue very passionat.
Νο we are not, any of those things neither any family, nor we have any "argue". You are just a complete idiot. And speak only for yourself. This doesn't express nor represents any Greek.
It's so normal in Europe to speak more than 3 languages, especially 100 years ago. Wish the world was not so homogenised
Καλησπέρα. Σε ποίο χωρίον είναι γυρισμένο κύριε Καρέλα;;
Μπράβο σας πολύ ωραίο!
στα Χωριά Οβάγιανετζέ κοντά στην Τσατάλτζα (45 χλμ δυτικά-βορειοδυτικά της Κωνσταντινούπολης) και στο Γιενίκιοΐ, ακριβώς πάνω από το νέο αεροδρόμιο "Ιστανμπουλ", δίπλα στη Μαύρη Θάλασσα! Καλημέρα!
@@KostasGarelas Καλημέρα. Ευχαριστώ πολύ . Όταν θα μπορέσω να πάω , θα περάσω κι από εκεί
Δεν υπάρχουν τουρκοι στην Τουρκια και υπάρχουν στην Ελλάδα? Λολ
Πως δεν υπάρχουν Τούρκοι στην Τουρκία τι εννοείς εγώ είμαι Τουρκ μένω στην Τουρκία
@@ΡΑΜΑΔΑΝΚΟΥΡΑΚ
Κάνε ένα DNA test και θα δεις πόσο Τούρκος είσαι
@@ΚΟΣΜΟΠΟΛΙΤΗΣ-λ7χ δεν αμφιβάλλω εγώ είμαι τουρκ
@@ΡΑΜΑΔΑΝΚΟΥΡΑΚ
Εννοείται ότι δεν αμφιβάλλεις αλλα πανω απο 70% στην χώρα σου είναι Ρωμιοί από την βυζαντινή αυτοκρατορία
Το ιδιο και στο Ρωμεικο πανω απο το 70 % είναι αλλες φυλές που δηλώνουν ελληνες
We are Cypriots... all of us...
hiçbir fark göremiyorum çok tatlılar lan
Neyin farkını arıyorsun ki onlar Türk . Lozan anlaşması ile değiş tokuş yapmışlar insanlari...türkiyeden gelen yunanlar da Türkçe konuşuyor
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله ، يا اخي ،
No , I am not from Larissa , I am leaving in Germany . Of course , nationality and DNA are not Important for Muslims , as I mentioned Islam ist for all mankind . On Yawm al Qiamah we will be judged over our Din . Nevertheless it is not forbidden for a Muslim to get information about his own roots . The ancestors of those people were Greeks who converted to Islam . In Pontos are still leaving thousands of Pontos Greeks who are speaking pontiaka and call themselves Rum . Today they are of course Muslims and have got the Turkish citizenship . Salamat .
-Kahveyi de çek.
-Nasıl??
Hahahahaha
ben (o zaman ve sonra, videoda) anlamadim ne dedi o ("kahveyi de cek!") -iyi ki sen, saka gibi, bunu yazmissin, simdi anliyorum! :)
ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΜΟΥ!!! ΠΑΤΡΙΔΑ ΜΟΥ ΓΛΥΚΙΆ!!!
Are these Greek speaking Turks from Greece who were part of the population exchange or are they Rumeika speaking Turks from the Black Sea? Or Both?
Pontus? My family was from there and settled in kozani
@@videotourist9850 But the dialect they speak isn't Pontian Greek. I think they are Turks from Greece originally.
They may be a folk named Patriots, since the population exchange was based on religion instead of national identity, many Turkish speaking orthodox citizens left Turkey and Greek speaking muslims came instead. As far as i know, when Turks came from Greece they were speaking in Turkish so i suppose those granddads in the video might be Patriots (greek speaking muslims).
They are from Thrace area.
These are Turks of Greece
Who has seen charlton with what hair style he is or has changed😅😅😅
İnsanın anadili ne ise Onu konuşur , Yunanca konuşan Türkler nedir yaa..:) ?
Bunlar ya Makedonya'dan göç etmiş Türkler (geldiklerinde komşu milletler olan Makedonların ve Yunanlıların dilini biliyorlardı,aralarında Vaalades denilen bir grup da vardı ama çok az sayıda) ya da Girit kökenliler (Giritli Müslümanlar karışık bir etnik köken sahipti, yarı Grek yarı Türk denilebilir, ama çoğunlukla Yunanca konuşuyorlardı). Muhtemelen Makedonya kökenliler. Eğer öyleyse Yunan eğitim sistemi ve devleti tarafından Yunanca eğitimden geçirildikleri uzunca bir dönem var. Doğal olarak oradan gelmiş olanlar hatırladıkları kadarıyla konuşabiliyorlar. Nüfus mübadelesi sırasında bizden Yunanistan'a gönderilen 1 milyon Ortodoks Hristiyanin 650 bini Türk kökenli ve Yunanca bilmeyen Karamanlılar idi (beylik olan Karamanlılar ile karıştırma, bunlar Bizans döneminde Balkanlardaki Peçenek, Oğuz ve Kumanlardan Hristiyanlığa devsirilerek Sasanilere karşı Anadolu'ya yerleştirilmiş, Türkçe konuşup Türkçeyi Yunan alfabesiyle yazan Hristiyan Türkler). Benzer şekilde bizim buraya gelen 900 bin (bazı Yunanlılar 1.5 milyon diyor ama yanlış, öyle olsa o sırada Yunanistan nüfusu 2.5 milyon idi, çoğunluk Türklerde olması gerekirdi; ama değildi) Müslüman Türk'ün içinde 40 bin kadar Makedonya kökenli ve 45-50 bin kadar da Giritli Müslüman da vardı (Türkiye nüfusu 11 milyondu o zaman).
Kısacası bu amcalar büyük olasılıkla sadece oradan göçtüğü için Yunanca da bile kökeni de Türk amcalar, ama bir ihtimalle bu bahsettiğim iki gruptan birine de dayanıyor olabilir kökleri. Eğer öyleyse Yunanlı youtuber bayağı arayıp bulmuş olmalı, sayıları çok az çünkü.
Yunanistada da Türkçe konuşan yunanlılar var... biraz tarihi araştır
Hristiyan Türkler vardı karamanda yaşıyorlardı cumhuriyetin ilk yıllarında Yunanistan'a gönderildiler
@@bedeviavcs5983 onlar Hristiyan türk değil yünan olduklari icin lozan anlaşmasına göre değiş tokuş yapildilar ordaki türkler hani türkce bilmeyenler Türkiyeye geldi
@@krksanya7373 rumlarla birlikte bizim hristiyan Türkler de gönderildi. Hatta Türk oldukları için yunanlar dışlamış. Murat Bardakçı'nın programında uzun uzun konuşuldu bu konu.
απαντρευτος είμαι!!
It makes me so sad that an former empire with such an concentration of different religions and minorities broked so hard.
German speech says: „homeland is there where your heart beats“
I hope one day my friends the aggression between turkey,Greece, Armenia and other minorities who forced to leave this country come back and live in peace and harmony In the path of his ancestors 😘
🇬🇷🇦🇲🇨🇾🇹🇷
My dear unknown friend I agree with you and I thank you for your positive comment!
@@KostasGarelas you’re welcome 😉