Of the 4 NVMEs I have, only the no-name 500GB NVME from a Beelink miniPC worked with the Geekworm X1001 nvme hat. The Patriot P310 is great for low-power applications. I have one installed in my PineBook Pro and it has extended the battery life noticeably over the WD Green that I had previously.
@@VSTMAN1337 Yup still running fine for me. Well I do use Argon One V3 M.2 NVME PCIE Case now, but wouldn't be surprised if it would work with the pimoroni NVME base as well.
I have a Transend 256GB 2230 out of a steam deck and its a B&M Key and I use it on a Pimoroni NVMe Base and it works great..., thanks for the great video once again :)
I just went with a 240GB Crucial P310 due to the cheap price and known compatibility. I'm using the same Geekworm X1001 hat. I have a few other NVMEs, I might try but I'm happy with the setup now. However, I will say, I had a lot of issues with certain SD cards and USB external drives. The Pi5 seems very picky!
I was able to boot to a Patriot 300 256GB M.2 2280 drive (on Pimoroni compatible list) in Raspi 5 with an external enclosure with the eeprom set to the latest and correct boot order, but upon installing the same drive to the NVME base, the NVME drive is not recognized upon checking lsblk and checking for the drive with the RASPI imager. I reconnected the ribbon cable more than once. What may be wrong? The ribbon cable? I believe others on the forum may be having issues with the Patriot 300 drive but It works with an external enclosure. I very much would appreciate your feedback. I mentioned the same to Pimoroni but I haven't heard from them as of yet.
Hi, I have just setup my pi 5 in the new Argon ONE V3 M.2 NVME PCIE Case with a Samsung NVME drive which works well. Faster and 10 degrees cooler than the raspberry pi heatsink cooler.
Which Samsung M.2 NVME did you use? I'm working on setting up a node with at least a 2tb NVME in the RPi5, using the Argon One V3 case. I thought it would be easy but seems to be lots of compatibility issues. From what I understand the RPi5 only supports up to Gen 2?
Interesting how different boards support different SSDs. I bought the Pimoroni board because it supports the WD Black SN750 SE that I already own, with a Phison controller.
Thanks, you provided a solution to end my torment ;) saved me. Could not figure out why I could not boot Pinn OS from a WD Blue SN570 with a Pineberry Pi. This drive is not recommended for the Pi5.
Crucial P3 1TB works with Geekworm X1002. At first set up open air , worked fine, put in GW 590 case and it refused to boot. After much experimentation and head scratching I determined that the case was shorting out the ribbon cable. A piece of electrical tape on the end wall of the case where the ribbon cable squashes up against it and problem solved. I have advised Geekworm of this
I purchased the KingSpec linked in the description, but it's listed as a SATA drive and does not appear to be compatible with the HAT. Did you do something to make it work?
@@aydenvis Amazon appear to have changed the link. M.2 sata won’t work, only nvme drives work. I have removed the links, this should be fine. amzn.to/4fGkasE
I used a Samsung 980 Pro 2TB with the x1001 and it was working fine. Decided to add a cooler and it stopped working. Still boots fine if I put it in a usb enclosure. Can't figure out how adding a cooler to the pi 5 would cause the drive to stop working.
Nvme Kingston kc3000 that you report as compatible has the Phison chrontroller. On the Geekworm 1002 Wiki site in the description they say to avoid NVME with these controllers... This confuses me
Hi Lee you can add: Lexar NM620 512GB SSD, M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3x4 NVMe 1.4 Internal SSD which is a bit cheaper (and less capacity than the other Lexar's shown) I cloned your KDE distribution from my USB drive no problem
have you tried changing the pcie line in config.txt from Gen=3 to Gen=4 ?? Just to see if it does anything??? It would be so funny if it did LOL But I honestly think it will make it default to Gen2 speeds... but you never know... right? :)
Great video as always. I'm new to NVMe and have no idea which one to get. So super helpful. Might get the Patriot just because of price. I think your Kingston link is wrong? Seems to be pointing to a SATA drive. Do you know how good the Samsung Pro would be in comparison to the two you tested? I guess I'm sort of asking you to test all the compatible ones all publish the scores 😂
Thanks. I just bought the Patriot via the link in your description 👍 Feels like a good entry point to NVMe. Will be running Flyde OS (as a result of your other video!).
Hi i have a strange problem with a Kioxia 128gb drive. The same serial as the one you tested, but lower volume. If i enable gen 3 , the system is ultra slow. Gen 2 is fine. I use a hat+ from Waveshare. Also running your build.
Silicon-power NVMEs don’t seem to like being bootable. They’ll boot, but lock up once you try anything. No problems as just a fast drive though… UPDATE: lspci shows a Phison controller. Also, I’ve found that if you enable PCI_gen_3, it kills the network. Can’t hit anything other than my own IP. Switch to Gen_2 and networking is fine. So, to summarize: if you have a Phison controlled drive, just don’t set it to boot, and definitely don’t use GEN_3.
You have essentially answered my question before I even got into the video. Mine shows up in Gnome disks, but won't boot. Guess I'll need to get a different drive and find a use for this one. Fug.
Always fat32 raspberry pi imager formats all sizes of storage to fat32 The Samsung bar is decent for the price and has always worked for me USB Stick Speed Tests. Raspberry Pi 4 / 400 ruclips.net/video/u2KZhkdP8P8/видео.html
I was able to use Fanxiana s880 2TB, up to 2500MB/s (Pi 5 limit) for boot up of Raspberry Pi OS. The vendor claims this drive can go up to 7300MB/s, so it is an overkill.
I’m I able to use the Crucial P3 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe drive because I can’t boot from it without having a usb drive connected and then remove the usb drive once it’s booted how do I set it so it boots straight into the NVME without having to use a usb drive? I have followed multiple steps including setting the boot order to be NVME then usb but still having the same problem
hi installed x1001 / Patriot 310 as you have changed to Gen 3 but only getting 41583 random read seems slow, write speeds have increased by a lot but not read speed
Weird, it’s been consistent for me. Tested it here as well with a different board Raspberry Pi 5 Metal case with NVMe. 52Pi ruclips.net/video/kUBHWhdpbco/видео.html
Thanks for this. A few days late for me. I was stupid enough to proceed with trying to use two unproven ssd as a boot drive! Hours wasted, because I did not have a micro SD card to boot from. Your way is so much smarter. I have that very pcie to nvme board from geekworm. I had two nvme ssd not work (so slow, and they failed with the system reporting access errors after booting as if they were write protected or disconnected? Neither has the unsupported controller (had seen that on the web page). Tried setting the pi to gen 2 or gen 3, and many other things. Maybe they would have worked if I had used the extra 5V input on the nvme board? I suspect they need more current than the pcie connector allows. Greekworm supplies an extra 5V input, but I did not have a connector, or want to have another power supply. I ended up using the ssd from my pi V4, for the pi V5 and a new SSD with the Pi 4. The Argon USB to M.2 board is not picky at all, but obviously slower. BTW I also have had so many problems with booting from usb 3.2 flash drives. Is there a list of those tested by someone? No access errors just seems like the faster the usb flash drive, the slower the pi works. Both the failed USB flash drives and failed SSD had other things in common, they hung on shutdowns and restarts. Learned there is a restart service and a shutdown service in systemd looking at text that normally is not on the screen long enough to read.
The Samsung bar works well on Pi 5. It was always good on Pi 4 USB Stick Speed Tests. Raspberry Pi 4 / 400 ruclips.net/video/u2KZhkdP8P8/видео.html Usb sata SSD cables have worked well for me with Pi 5
@@leepspvideo Oh ok, that's what am doing with the pi4, am using 3 m.2 total.... I have two 256gig and one 4T off a USB hub as my movie and camera ftp server. I was hoping the Pi5 will solve the usb hus hub...So I will stick with pi4 setup for now
Im using a NVMe Base for Raspberry Pi 5 - NVMe Base from pimoroni running umbrel os but the operating system won't use the storage from the Samsung 2 tb 980 pro ?
PNY CS3010 gets ~790 MB/s on the Pimoroni. Solidigm P41 Plus gets 300-450MB/s with same settings. No luck with two other smaller foresee and kingspec nmve's.
I'm using three different drives Crucial, Western Digital, and PNY and they all seem to work. If anyone needs more specifics than that then let me know.
If you used a Raspberry Pi 4 compatible fan (basically a fan that runs off the gpio) you could also use the official active cooler as well with this setup
I ordered an Argon Neo NVME case. The only drive I have for it is a 256 GB Kioxia that I pulled from my laptop when I upgraded my laptop. The case isn't here yet. I'm hoping for tomorrow or Saturday. I'm hoping everything works. If not I'll probably order a Silicon Power drive and find another use for the Kioxia.
Of the 4 NVMEs I have, only the no-name 500GB NVME from a Beelink miniPC worked with the Geekworm X1001 nvme hat.
The Patriot P310 is great for low-power applications. I have one installed in my PineBook Pro and it has extended the battery life noticeably over the WD Green that I had previously.
Thanks for doing this mate!
Thanks for the demo and info, awesome. Have a great day.
Solid info. I received a pi 5 and 52Pi N04 M.2 2280 today. Really fun bit to operate. Tested SD performance and plan to start testing NVMe soon.
Another nice ep. Please do one on tools: screwdriver, power, USB hubs, monitors, desk candy, etc
Got my nvme going thanks to your advice on where to get the new cable, thanks Lee 😬
Kingston NV2 has worked really well for me on the Pimoroni NVME Base.
+1 for the NV2 and Pimoroni Base.
Still running it?
@@VSTMAN1337 Yup still running fine for me. Well I do use Argon One V3 M.2 NVME PCIE Case now, but wouldn't be surprised if it would work with the pimoroni NVME base as well.
@@MrTachi Thanks! I guess try my luck with 4TB NV2
I have a Transend 256GB 2230 out of a steam deck and its a B&M Key and I use it on a Pimoroni NVMe Base and it works great..., thanks for the great video once again :)
Thank you! Exactly What I was looking for
Crucial P3 Plus 4TB CT4000P3PSSD8 and Pimoroni NVME base working perfectly. 3D printed case, official cooler.
I just went with a 240GB Crucial P310 due to the cheap price and known compatibility. I'm using the same Geekworm X1001 hat. I have a few other NVMEs, I might try but I'm happy with the setup now. However, I will say, I had a lot of issues with certain SD cards and USB external drives. The Pi5 seems very picky!
Thanks for the link will check later
I was able to boot to a Patriot 300 256GB M.2 2280 drive (on Pimoroni compatible list) in Raspi 5 with an external enclosure with the eeprom set to the latest and correct boot order, but upon installing the same drive to the NVME base, the NVME drive is not recognized upon checking lsblk and checking for the drive with the RASPI imager. I reconnected the ribbon cable more than once.
What may be wrong? The ribbon cable? I believe others on the forum may be having issues with the Patriot 300 drive but It works with an external enclosure.
I very much would appreciate your feedback. I mentioned the same to Pimoroni but I haven't heard from them as of yet.
this looks like a power supply problem. Maybe you can try a bigger PS or perhaps the drive itself Is not compatible.
Hi, I have just setup my pi 5 in the new Argon ONE V3 M.2 NVME PCIE Case with a Samsung NVME drive which works well. Faster and 10 degrees cooler than the raspberry pi heatsink cooler.
Which Samsung M.2 NVME did you use? I'm working on setting up a node with at least a 2tb NVME in the RPi5, using the Argon One V3 case. I thought it would be easy but seems to be lots of compatibility issues. From what I understand the RPi5 only supports up to Gen 2?
@@tonywright8342 pero puedes ponerlo a gen 3
Thank you for that, I have done lots of research and much more informed now.@@ElsiervoDePeFKNerre
😊@@tonywright8342
Interesting how different boards support different SSDs.
I bought the Pimoroni board because it supports the WD Black SN750 SE that I already own, with a Phison controller.
Silicon Power PCIe M.2 NVMe SSD 256GB on Pimoroni base worked first time perfectly
This is very cool. Thank you.
Thanks, you provided a solution to end my torment ;) saved me. Could not figure out why I could not boot Pinn OS from a WD Blue SN570 with a Pineberry Pi. This drive is not recommended for the Pi5.
They have a fix for the sn550 might be worth updating the eeprom
github.com/raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom/releases
Another great video! Hey, where did you get that world view wallpaper?
Try Google “peakpx Europe from space, night, Earth, lights of cities, Europe, the Mediterranean Sea, HD wallpaper” lots of pop ups on the site
Another one proven to be fully working is the Transcend MTE400S.
Since I got that one working right now and it's fine.
Wow. geekworm has a wiki. I'll have to check that out
Crucial P3 1TB works with Geekworm X1002. At first set up open air , worked fine, put in GW 590 case and it refused to boot. After much experimentation and head scratching I determined that the case was shorting out the ribbon cable. A piece of electrical tape on the end wall of the case where the ribbon cable squashes up against it and problem solved. I have advised Geekworm of this
I purchased the KingSpec linked in the description, but it's listed as a SATA drive and does not appear to be compatible with the HAT. Did you do something to make it work?
@@aydenvis Amazon appear to have changed the link. M.2 sata won’t work, only nvme drives work.
I have removed the links, this should be fine.
amzn.to/4fGkasE
The kioxia works even though it has a Phison controller?!?
I used a Samsung 980 Pro 2TB with the x1001 and it was working fine. Decided to add a cooler and it stopped working. Still boots fine if I put it in a usb enclosure. Can't figure out how adding a cooler to the pi 5 would cause the drive to stop working.
Nvme Kingston kc3000 that you report as compatible has the Phison chrontroller. On the Geekworm 1002 Wiki site in the description they say to avoid NVME with these controllers... This confuses me
Safer to stick to the ones I have tried
running test is all very well, But What did YOU feel was happening as you used that new NVMe ?
? data was moving back and forth
@@leepspvideo No that's not answer I'm looking for! It should be something like; it felt easier or smoother or however you want to describe it.
Many iot solutions for pi are using U-Boot in the boot Prozess. Sadly U-Boot does not support NVMe booting. Or are there any news ?
Hi Lee you can add:
Lexar NM620 512GB SSD, M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3x4 NVMe 1.4 Internal SSD which is a bit cheaper (and less capacity than the other Lexar's shown) I cloned your KDE distribution from my USB drive no problem
have you tried changing the pcie line in config.txt from Gen=3 to Gen=4 ?? Just to see if it does anything??? It would be so funny if it did LOL But I honestly think it will make it default to Gen2 speeds... but you never know... right? :)
Do I understand right that you are actually testing NVMe speed even though it writes that is is a CD card?
The os is running from the NVMe connected via pcie. When running the NVMe drive there is no sd card in the Pi
I'm using a Kingston KC3000 1tb drive with a Pineberry Pi bottom board. It works well, but the drive runs very hot. I ordered a heatsink for it.
How's it been working with the heat sink so far?
@@chillnacho The heatsink feels hot but the drive runs at about 60c according to the SMARTINFO which I think is OK.
Great video as always. I'm new to NVMe and have no idea which one to get. So super helpful. Might get the Patriot just because of price.
I think your Kingston link is wrong? Seems to be pointing to a SATA drive.
Do you know how good the Samsung Pro would be in comparison to the two you tested?
I guess I'm sort of asking you to test all the compatible ones all publish the scores 😂
Once you get to nvme on a Pi 5 any of them will be nice and snappy.
Thanks. I just bought the Patriot via the link in your description 👍 Feels like a good entry point to NVMe. Will be running Flyde OS (as a result of your other video!).
will the official power supply 27W work with the nvme hat and active cooler and the rpi 5
@@xxmichal yes
@@leepspvideo alright thx
Is Crucial P3 Plus M.2 4T avalible ?
Wish I had seen this before, but I got lucky and mine works fine
Hi i have a strange problem with a Kioxia 128gb drive. The same serial as the one you tested, but lower volume. If i enable gen 3 , the system is ultra slow. Gen 2 is fine. I use a hat+ from Waveshare. Also running your build.
Not all drives will work well with pcie3
@@leepspvideo I am not sure if it's the drive or the hat itself. Both are rated gen3. Have you tested your Kioxia drive on gen 3 ?
@@tupaniful unfortunately it stopped working
that's unfortunate. I will see how long will my last than :) . At gen 2 speeds are fast enough so for now i will keep it that way.
Have you tested the PIMORONI NVMe BASE?
I haven’t
i have a wd black sn770 is this 1 tb ssd nvme compatible with my rpi 5 pi bottom ?
Kingston kc3000 2280, have anyone tested? I am interested in this model...
Silicon-power NVMEs don’t seem to like being bootable. They’ll boot, but lock up once you try anything. No problems as just a fast drive though…
UPDATE: lspci shows a Phison controller. Also, I’ve found that if you enable PCI_gen_3, it kills the network. Can’t hit anything other than my own IP. Switch to Gen_2 and networking is fine.
So, to summarize: if you have a Phison controlled drive, just don’t set it to boot, and definitely don’t use GEN_3.
You have essentially answered my question before I even got into the video. Mine shows up in Gnome disks, but won't boot. Guess I'll need to get a different drive and find a use for this one. Fug.
How do we get you associate credit when buying from Amazon US? Is there a code to put in or something?
Just clicking on a link then buying something from Amazon counts
1. which best format for NVMe, ext4 f2fs or bcachefs😇
2. which USB stick for Pis, thanks🤪
Always fat32 raspberry pi imager formats all sizes of storage to fat32
The Samsung bar is decent for the price and has always worked for me
USB Stick Speed Tests. Raspberry Pi 4 / 400
ruclips.net/video/u2KZhkdP8P8/видео.html
how to write whole.img to fat32 storage? default is ext4.
If you use Raspberry Pi imager the os will be written as fat32. That’s what the Raspberry Pi works with @@張三-q8q
I was able to use Fanxiana s880 2TB, up to 2500MB/s (Pi 5 limit) for boot up of Raspberry Pi OS. The vendor claims this drive can go up to 7300MB/s, so it is an overkill.
I’m I able to use the Crucial P3 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe drive because I can’t boot from it without having a usb drive connected and then remove the usb drive once it’s booted how do I set it so it boots straight into the NVME without having to use a usb drive?
I have followed multiple steps including setting the boot order to be NVME then usb but still having the same problem
hi installed x1001 / Patriot 310 as you have changed to Gen 3 but only getting 41583 random read seems slow, write speeds have increased by a lot but not read speed
Weird, it’s been consistent for me.
Tested it here as well with a different board
Raspberry Pi 5 Metal case with NVMe. 52Pi
ruclips.net/video/kUBHWhdpbco/видео.html
I can report that the TEAMGROUP MP44Q 1TB SLC Cache Gen 4x4 M.2 works.
Can confirm WD 1 TB SSD PC SN730 works, and boots fine (X1001)
Hello,
Could you confirm that Crucial P3 1TB NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD is compatible or not?
Thank you in advance.
@@kiril.g not without trying it first. Compatible list in the description
Thanks for this. A few days late for me. I was stupid enough to proceed with trying to use two unproven ssd as a boot drive! Hours wasted, because I did not have a micro SD card to boot from. Your way is so much smarter. I have that very pcie to nvme board from geekworm. I had two nvme ssd not work (so slow, and they failed with the system reporting access errors after booting as if they were write protected or disconnected? Neither has the unsupported controller (had seen that on the web page). Tried setting the pi to gen 2 or gen 3, and many other things. Maybe they would have worked if I had used the extra 5V input on the nvme board? I suspect they need more current than the pcie connector allows. Greekworm supplies an extra 5V input, but I did not have a connector, or want to have another power supply. I ended up using the ssd from my pi V4, for the pi V5 and a new SSD with the Pi 4. The Argon USB to M.2 board is not picky at all, but obviously slower. BTW I also have had so many problems with booting from usb 3.2 flash drives. Is there a list of those tested by someone? No access errors just seems like the faster the usb flash drive, the slower the pi works. Both the failed USB flash drives and failed SSD had other things in common, they hung on shutdowns and restarts. Learned there is a restart service and a shutdown service in systemd looking at text that normally is not on the screen long enough to read.
The Samsung bar works well on Pi 5. It was always good on Pi 4
USB Stick Speed Tests. Raspberry Pi 4 / 400
ruclips.net/video/u2KZhkdP8P8/видео.html
Usb sata SSD cables have worked well for me with Pi 5
SSD 2TB Crucial P3, M.2 2280, NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4, Leitura 3500MB/s, Grav. 3000MB/s - CT2000P3SSD8 It is compatible with Geekworm X1001 PCIe to M.2 ?
Viathan 256GB 2280 tested with Pimoroni NMVe base, working on pi 5 8GB
how many NVMe drives work with a Raspberry Pi 5 at once?
If I use more than 2 I use a powered usb hub
@@leepspvideo Oh ok, that's what am doing with the pi4, am using 3 m.2 total....
I have two 256gig and one 4T off a USB hub as my movie and camera ftp server.
I was hoping the Pi5 will solve the usb hus hub...So I will stick with pi4 setup for now
SAMSUNG 990 PRO 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe MZ-V9P1T0BW - compatible?
@@tomibodolai3951 someone would need to try it. Otherwise I would pick one from the list
Im using a NVMe Base for Raspberry Pi 5 - NVMe Base from pimoroni running umbrel os but the operating system won't use the storage from the Samsung 2 tb 980 pro ?
Have you tried it on an sd card or usb stick? Does Raspberry Pi OS work on your nvme?
@leepspvideo umbrel os is flased on the micro sd card. No I haven't ran Pi OS on the nvme drive yet
@leepspvideo ahhh they don't support nvme PCle users atm
"NVMe support will be coming in 1.2" they said this on twitter I've done some reading on forum with people with the same issues
Has anyone tried the WD Red Nvme SSD (SN700)? I’m planning to use the Pi5 as an 24/7 server and thought this drive could be a good choice.
PNY CS3010 gets ~790 MB/s on the Pimoroni. Solidigm P41 Plus gets 300-450MB/s with same settings. No luck with two other smaller foresee and kingspec nmve's.
I'm using three different drives Crucial, Western Digital, and PNY and they all seem to work. If anyone needs more specifics than that then let me know.
someone tried SAMSUNG 990 EVO 2 To?
If you used a Raspberry Pi 4 compatible fan (basically a fan that runs off the gpio) you could also use the official active cooler as well with this setup
🙋
I ordered an Argon Neo NVME case. The only drive I have for it is a 256 GB Kioxia that I pulled from my laptop when I upgraded my laptop.
The case isn't here yet. I'm hoping for tomorrow or Saturday. I'm hoping everything works. If not I'll probably order a Silicon Power drive and find another use for the Kioxia.
Too fast bro, too fast bro, you’re not appealing to beginners too fast bro
Getting a Raspberry Pi 5? 10 things you should know
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