Good on Burton to do right by Selick by being a producer on his next project, James and The Giant Peach, as a way of thanks for taking on those duties. Also ironic how they put it on the Touchstone banner for worries it might be too much for their reputation and now here we are today and Disney now proudly calls it "A Disney Film".
Disney are like those actors who claim to be ashamed of a film they starred in but then years later when they discover the film has grown a cult following, then suddenly they change their tune and tslk about how proud they are to have been a part of it 🙄
@@kevincooper1982 you gotta understand, times were different back then, Disney was under different administration, and after Pirates of the Caribbean, they began to embrace more edgy and darker material, it takes a while to embrace your older output, and honestly, I think that's better than not admitting it's existence at all
Ironic that Burton was producer for jatgp yet everyone thinks he did it just because its creepy stop motion. same with coraline. can't Selick just get credit for once?!
@@Charles12 And stop comparing everything from both men to this movie. Nothing either makes can escape the shadow of this film, and Tim Burton himself thought plastering his name over it would undercut the fact this film was a team effort.
God do I love this film. I have probably watched it 30plus times it never gets old such a great mix of the macabre and holiday musical Thats a spicy meatball of fun times
Since the early 70's media aimed at children isn't to sell ads or sell the movie/show itself, it was to drive sales of toys and bed sheets at the department stores.. Moichendizing! Jack Skellington t shirts were all the rage at Hot Topic.. and still are. Disney is milking every cash cow they have. To death.
I mean, it came out in what, ‘93? I was in 1st grade and was drawn to it but my my mom made me wait until I was in 3rd grade. Which was maybe wiser? At that age I surprisingly was really Into the art and I fell head over heels in love with stop motion!
This is my sister's favorite movie! It was nominated for Best Visual Effects but lost to JURASSIC PARK. The film is a box office and critical success, making $90 million dollars against a $13 million dollar budget.
Great video. The fact that this movie ended up getting made and turned out to be what it is, all this despite the house of the 🐀, it's nothing short of astounding.
This was pretty much the only 90s Disney movie I did NOT see growing up. I guess it didn't help that it was not marketed as a Disney film back then. I even watched James and the Giant Peach when I was little, but I didn't get the Jack Skellington reference in it. Kingdom Hearts 1 ended up being my first introduction to Nightmare Before Christmas, and I remember being pretty confused by the level based on the movie until I finally saw it on Disney Channel as a teen. It certainly does rank up there with the likes of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, the Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, the Lion King and Toy Story, all big hits Disney produced (or at least distributed in Toy Story's case) between the late 80s and mid 90s that redefined the possibilities of animation in the realms of musicals, live-action hybrid, stop-motion, and 3D.
This is one of my top 5 movies of all time, I watch it at least once a year either at halloween or christmas (sometimes both). I saw it at the cinema when it came out, I travelled over an hour each way on a bus to watch the 3d version (it was the only theatre showing it) in short I am part of the reason this movie is so over-commercialised.... now excuse me while I go buy that slow cooker
Happy coincidence. I was just listening (and trying my damnest to sing along to Jack's parts) to the soundtrack at work. I won't apologize for my horrid vocals, though I'll try better next time...
I've always found the movie to be a smash up, BUT the movie does start with the ending of Halloween, therefore I believe it to be more of a Christmas movie. Not sure if anyone will agree. Either way though, I still love this movie and will continue to watch it often.
It's blatantly a Christmas movie, Jack wants Halloween to be like Christmas, most the movie is set during Christmas, it has Christmas in the title, they mention Christmas more times than Halloween...I think it's safe to say it is a Christmas movie...disguised as a Halloween movie!! Plot twist ( ͡👁️ ͜ʖ ͡👁️)👌
XD This is like the Die Hard thing. Movies that take place on Christmas aren't inherently Christmas movies, just like movies that take place in summer aren't "Summer Movies".
I know these WTF videos take a lot of time, and I appreciate the effort you put into them, but I’d love to see a “WTF happened to Marlon Brando” not a lot of commentary on his career on RUclips.
I'm fine with the story living on through comic books and video games. That way the fans can decide if it counts or not. A sequel could tarnish it IMO.
For real large Marge freaked me out...I wouldnt look. LOL then again so did Michael Jackson's eyes at the end of Thriller..and for some reason the whole Freeze Frame vid.
Disney also wanted Jack to have real eyes, but Burton rejected this idea of course. You can see they finally did it with Coco 2017, finally gave those skeletons eyes...and I don't like it, the eyes I mean, the movie is okay.
I am a real cinephile and love animated movies. I grew up on Ray Harryhausen and did love Beetlejuice. But I have never understood this film. It lacks colour, wit, class and taste. It's dark and gloomy (not in a good way), the animation is incredibly clunky and rough; the songs are incredibly basic and childish; the jokes are not funny and there is no wit or cleverness to be detected. It lacks a lot of colour which is really bad for a kid's movie. It's like someone dropped all their Christmas and Halloween decorations on the floor and then said ''That's a film right there!''. It's one of the worst films I've ever seen. Like a film-making student's first attempt.
I absolutely agree with your assessment. "Is it a Halloween or Christmas move?" Yes.
It’s a Thanksgiving movie
Every year when I turn the calendar to October, I listen to the theme song on RUclips in every language available.
Good on Burton to do right by Selick by being a producer on his next project, James and The Giant Peach, as a way of thanks for taking on those duties. Also ironic how they put it on the Touchstone banner for worries it might be too much for their reputation and now here we are today and Disney now proudly calls it "A Disney Film".
Disney are like those actors who claim to be ashamed of a film they starred in but then years later when they discover the film has grown a cult following, then suddenly they change their tune and tslk about how proud they are to have been a part of it 🙄
@@kevincooper1982 you gotta understand, times were different back then, Disney was under different administration, and after Pirates of the Caribbean, they began to embrace more edgy and darker material, it takes a while to embrace your older output, and honestly, I think that's better than not admitting it's existence at all
Ironic that Burton was producer for jatgp yet everyone thinks he did it just because its creepy stop motion. same with coraline. can't Selick just get credit for once?!
@@Charles12 And stop comparing everything from both men to this movie. Nothing either makes can escape the shadow of this film, and Tim Burton himself thought plastering his name over it would undercut the fact this film was a team effort.
@@TheNotverysocial i know that, and I blame Disney for that fact not burton
This was great, an absolute classic.
God do I love this film. I have probably watched it 30plus times it never gets old
such a great mix of the macabre and holiday musical
Thats a spicy meatball of fun times
Nice how disney didnt want their name on it untill it became a hit
Oogie Boogie sliced a pretty prominent childhood scar into my pysche! That thing is terrifying.
@1:56 I agree with this because, most of your best ideas come when you are not expecting it
This is my transition movie from Halloween's October horror movie marathon to Christmas' movies. It's such a great movie for both holidays.
This was real talent collaborating with just the right mix of people. No wonder almost everything Hollywood shits out now feels empty and uninspired.
There is a sequel to this Movie tucked away inside Kingdom hearts.
It's been sadly over commercialized, but I still love it, AND I WOULD DEFINITELY RATHER WATCH THIS OVER CHRISTMAS STORY!
Isn't the point of any movie, for kids, to commercialize it?
Since the early 70's media aimed at children isn't to sell ads or sell the movie/show itself, it was to drive sales of toys and bed sheets at the department stores.. Moichendizing! Jack Skellington t shirts were all the rage at Hot Topic.. and still are. Disney is milking every cash cow they have. To death.
I don't think Disney will ever over-commercialize anything as hard as they did Hanna Montana in the early 2000s.... Not even Baby Yoda.
Q: How many times have you watched this movie?
Me: yes
extended Halloween ,early X-mas...
Excellent presentation thank you.
Just looking at Selick... @13:00
Tim, did you base your version of Wonka on this fellow?
Be honest, Tim.
"it was deemed too dark and scary"
My 18 months daughter has been begging to watch and rewatch this movie over a hundred times already 😂
I mean, it came out in what, ‘93? I was in 1st grade and was drawn to it but my my mom made me wait until I was in 3rd grade. Which was maybe wiser? At that age I surprisingly was really
Into the art and I fell head over heels in love with stop motion!
I still say this is a Burton Movie, even if he didn't direct it. it's got his fingerprints all over it.
People always assume Tim Burton directed this movie, but I understand why, since it pretty much looks and sounds like a film he would direct
Kind of like with Poltergeist and who really directed it out of Spielberg or Hooper
@@kevincooper1982
Spielberg just "line-produced" the hell out of Poltergeist, lol.
Favorite movie of all time
"Artist Francis Bacon (irish XX century painter)"
Adds image of the XVI century philosopher of the same name.
The thought of them making a cgi sequel sends shivers down my spine 😱😱😱
Would you rather a Live Action as we're having "pleasure" of everything lately? ;)
@@SpecialProjectY What I meant to say was "the thought of them making any kind of sequel or sequel full stop sends shivers down my spine" ;p
@@kevincooper1982 I know, just teasing :)
No no no
@@SpecialProjectY I know you were 👍
This is my sister's favorite movie!
It was nominated for Best Visual Effects but lost to JURASSIC PARK.
The film is a box office and critical success, making $90 million dollars against a $13 million dollar budget.
In my book, they are tied. Both have spectacular visual effects!
The budget was actually $18M boosted to $24M, and made $50M in it's initial run, making $40M more in re-releases
Great video. The fact that this movie ended up getting made and turned out to be what it is, all this despite the house of the 🐀, it's nothing short of astounding.
This was pretty much the only 90s Disney movie I did NOT see growing up. I guess it didn't help that it was not marketed as a Disney film back then. I even watched James and the Giant Peach when I was little, but I didn't get the Jack Skellington reference in it. Kingdom Hearts 1 ended up being my first introduction to Nightmare Before Christmas, and I remember being pretty confused by the level based on the movie until I finally saw it on Disney Channel as a teen. It certainly does rank up there with the likes of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, the Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, the Lion King and Toy Story, all big hits Disney produced (or at least distributed in Toy Story's case) between the late 80s and mid 90s that redefined the possibilities of animation in the realms of musicals, live-action hybrid, stop-motion, and 3D.
My grandkids favor "Nightmare…" but I like both it AND "Christmas Story."
I watched it at work the other day and still love it
💯💯💯💯👍👍👍👍. A classic
A holiday classic.
This is one of my top 5 movies of all time, I watch it at least once a year either at halloween or christmas (sometimes both).
I saw it at the cinema when it came out, I travelled over an hour each way on a bus to watch the 3d version (it was the only theatre showing it)
in short I am part of the reason this movie is so over-commercialised.... now excuse me while I go buy that slow cooker
He's right. It's a fever dream!!
I remember this ..such memories 💕
Happy coincidence. I was just listening (and trying my damnest to sing along to Jack's parts) to the soundtrack at work.
I won't apologize for my horrid vocals, though I'll try better next time...
I watch NBC a ton of times and love it every time.
Joblo invades your home once a year in a red suit with a crazy beard.
For the longest time I didn't know the mouse was involved
Tim’s honest quote saying he regretted all the landfill toys TNBC created.
I just went to disney. I have to say the haunted mansion is prob one of the best rides there.
Did you get to do Haunted Mansion Holiday? I will be willing to pay money to fly out from the east coast to do that ride one day
@@KatieLHall-fy1hw yes was pretty cool, all Christmas themed. I want to go to the Florida Disney world
What a special, special movie
Maybe Jack should investigate the Easter tree door
I remember watching this for the first time in 8th grade before Christmas break. I like the movie, but not obsessed like other people like my mom.
13:34 Ahh yes, the DVD sales in 1994 saved this forgotten film from obscurity -______- hahahah
I've always found the movie to be a smash up, BUT the movie does start with the ending of Halloween, therefore I believe it to be more of a Christmas movie. Not sure if anyone will agree. Either way though, I still love this movie and will continue to watch it often.
It's blatantly a Christmas movie, Jack wants Halloween to be like Christmas, most the movie is set during Christmas, it has Christmas in the title, they mention Christmas more times than Halloween...I think it's safe to say it is a Christmas movie...disguised as a Halloween movie!! Plot twist ( ͡👁️ ͜ʖ ͡👁️)👌
XD This is like the Die Hard thing. Movies that take place on Christmas aren't inherently Christmas movies, just like movies that take place in summer aren't "Summer Movies".
14:16 I don't see Jack in the movie Coraline can someone explain to me where he is?
Its a Halloween Movie with a Christmas twist
Catherine O' Hara aka Kevin's mom was Sally?!!!!! After all these years 😳
I know these WTF videos take a lot of time, and I appreciate the effort you put into them, but I’d love to see a “WTF happened to Marlon Brando” not a lot of commentary on his career on RUclips.
Burton didn't want to direct a stop motion Movie, yet he went on to direct Corpse Bride and Frankenweenie.
Stop*
He co directed corpse bride with Mike Johnson, only to really do frankenweenie himself
Hahaha "fuck that shit". Good work tim
I'm fine with the story living on through comic books and video games. That way the fans can decide if it counts or not. A sequel could tarnish it IMO.
YES
For real large Marge freaked me out...I wouldnt look. LOL then again so did Michael Jackson's eyes at the end of Thriller..and for some reason the whole Freeze Frame vid.
Glad they didn't go with the "puppet" ending, that was just ick.
I was 4 when I watched this movie XD
I don't care if someone tried to call it a Mother's Day movie, still one of my all time favorites!
Please do WTF happened to Ronin (1998) by John Frankenheimer…
Great action movie…
Thanks
10:38 What does that mean, "no right angles" in relation to the filming of Hallloween Town?
@V A L E N T I N E Ah ok, yes, that makes sense. So he wanted everything to look slanted and not quite "right" , literally. Thanks :)
🙄 burten said he had a 108.0 temperature when he came with the idea. 108 right
This is for Halloween
Disney also wanted Jack to have real eyes, but Burton rejected this idea of course. You can see they finally did it with Coco 2017, finally gave those skeletons eyes...and I don't like it, the eyes I mean, the movie is okay.
Hahahaha! So you pre date any "new" thoughts. So anything new is dated before current employment. That cracked me up, thanks for that today.
I've long grown weary of explaining to naif hipsters that in fact Henry Selick directed _"Tim Burton's A Nightmare Before Christmas"._
Same here. Hopefully Wendell and Wild will give him the recognition he deserves.
I will watch this over SANTA INC.....
I watch night mare before christmas on night before night because of title
The oogy boogie got married to the babbadook
108 would kill someone.
108 fever? That can be fatal...
Didn't frankenweenie come out like atleast ten years after this?
The original didnt
Wow
Why is this guy speaking like Johnny Cab?
Corpse Bride, now what to do about the smell.
Glad the early Woke nonsense didn’t cut Oogie Boogie, because it’s arguably the best song and character.
Joblo is woke, don't kid yourself.
What happened to Tim Burton? Did he retire or get blacklisted after Planet of the Apes?
WTF Happened to Buried?
Good movie but seen it too many times, now it's just boring.
@JoBlo Videos WTF Happened to Buried?
it should be burton-selleck nightmare. only fair.
And then twas " hot topic" goth girls around the world found fashion and backpack s
Not a fan of the movie. Think it’s highly overrated and I just don’t see why it’s beloved.
That’s fair. People can love or hate what they want.
I am a real cinephile and love animated movies. I grew up on Ray Harryhausen and did love Beetlejuice. But I have never understood this film. It lacks colour, wit, class and taste. It's dark and gloomy (not in a good way), the animation is incredibly clunky and rough; the songs are incredibly basic and childish; the jokes are not funny and there is no wit or cleverness to be detected. It lacks a lot of colour which is really bad for a kid's movie. It's like someone dropped all their Christmas and Halloween decorations on the floor and then said ''That's a film right there!''. It's one of the worst films I've ever seen. Like a film-making student's first attempt.
This is still, in my opinion,one of the worst things ever. Right up there with the beatles. I dream of a world where neither existed.
@JoBlo Videos WTF Happened to Buried?
WTF Happened to Buried?