@@jordangentsch9868 That's a solid question. I haven't been able to test it, but another guy commented that you get top heavy to charged top heavy.. You can get that off a Top heavy parry as well. And it is safe
I like the shugo rework cause I mean hes at least way more viable in duel modes and the ability to charge the second heavy makes him really dangerous in 4s with the heavy heavy chain. I wish they would have given him light light as well so there was some more mind games to the light attack followup but with the demons embrace mix up I dont think it ends up being much of a problem. The main thing ive seen complaints about is that his damage is too low, and I can definitely see where people are coming from with that, I do think they went just a little bit too far with the heavy damage, but imo its still not the worst thing in the world. Overall its a pretty solid rework. Shugoki's no longer complete trash, or boring to fight anymore, but at the same time hes not op (even though he deserved to be after all they put him through lol) I probably still wont play shugoki, he never was too interesting to me either way, but so far its been a lot more fun to play against for SURE.
I absolutely agree. He is much more fun to play against now and he has many new mindgames he can play, not just charge heavy and release at random times. His damage output seems too low as it is now. He is slow but does not get much damage in return for his effort. It's fun that you mention the Light, Light combo. I actually expected that he would had gotten a Light, Light combo, but I guess Lights will still just be used to shut down people.
His new moves definitely increase his viability in duels and tanks but yes I agree they went a little too far with the damage nerfs, I hope he get at least 5 back on his heavies and a they bring the critical back crack back but only too maybe 80% damage and recovery that would be dope
Brian Wilson I agree with damage buff but critical hit destroying most of your health should stay dead. It’s just not fun when u make perfect plays but one mistake negates all previous plays if he even does 80% Dmg
@@stevenlucmai3497 I think doubling the damage and health regain from a critical back break would be best for everyone. After a buff to the base demon's embrace to 30 damage.
Havel the Rock no, i think it should stay at 25, but maybe up it to 35 or 40 on critical and the life regen to 35 on critical too? A 5dmg upgrade on heavy attacks would be cool too
Skaegor I like to throw a backwards top heavy against most characters that can jump and close the gap or like Orochis stance. Although it’s irritating when playing dominion and your team continues to hit the enemy out of your embrace so you don’t get an health back
You're right! Top Lights always connect, no matter which direction you throw in and you always have enough time to change guard if you were not in top guard. Solid feedback! Thanks!
@@cowboymarco7235 One more thing to add is, that pretty much all of shugokis punishes are unsave to gbs. I tested a bit by myself and came to the conclusion, that if you throw a top light of of a throw (guardside you were before doesnt matter) the enemy stumbles upon impact of the chrged heavy and is not gaining hyperarmor like he would if you threw a sidelight. Although the enemy can still gb you (because why give shugoki a save punish) the stumble can be used in teamfights for you team to still hit him without the enemy being able to block or parry for a short duration
with shugoki you can really get into your opponent’s head with demon’s embrace and charged heavies. try to make a pattern and then break it quickly to throw the opponent off. if you charge a heavy and demon’s embrace and then do it again, they will just think you are spamming that at that point, and they will try and dodge when you can fully charge the heavy this time and get them while they dodge. of course, this will only work with side charges if they try and dodge, so it might not be the best move all the time, but it is a helpful tip. you wanna mix the pattern up though, that way they don’t start predicting you.
Yeah, he much more fun now! You can really mess with people's heads if you Charge heavies and then: 1. release 2. press GB (go into jelly hug) 3. cancel to light attack. I also found that few people can dodge a followup headbutt. If you land that then throw a heavy from where their guard wasn't. It lands 50% of the time and I have never been parried this way.
I've actually been able to get a charged heavy on a wall throw but you have to be in a perfect position to throw them and charge the heavy while they are still hitting the wall
Nice video man I am new to the game and I am really interested in shugoki but I am also trying to learn Nobushi and Orochi can you make some guides on them? maybe even Kensei i am really bad with him too
Thanks, glad you like it! I do have similar videos for all the heroes in the game. You can check them out in my channel. They just focus on punishes though, but if I get more time, I do want to make real training videos. I'll keep these in mind.
Yes! You're right! Also, someone pointed out to me that you can change direction of your heavy after OOS parrying and you can land Heavy into top Charged Heavy
Thanks man, I'm so glad to hear that! I will do a video about Vortiger, but I didn't pre-order him, so I have to wait until he is properly released next week. Looking forward to playing him though. Looks really fun.
@@cowboymarco7235 I understand, I'm waiting for the video, I think ubisoft should be giving channels like yours, with free access to these DLCS, since you spend tremendous time to create the videos and help spread the word and pass on knowledge (I'm Brazilian I'm using the translator, I'm sorry for the meaningless or wrong sentences)
@@Byzunful Oh yeah, it would be nice with some help from Ubi, but maybe if my channel was bigger it could happen. I would had never guessed you used a translator. It looks like a native English-speaker wrote it ;)
You miss the top out stamina parry that get you one top heavy attack and another charged Heavy from top that as well if the person low on health you can execute from at 75 dmg. Me and a friend been working on it from when I hit rep 62 on Shugoki and it seem to work.
With out of stamina parries you get a top heavy into unblockables for 75 dps, if you parry a side just switch your guard to top, a side heavy into unblockable does not work, only top into unblockable
Fun idea demons Embrace hurts the other player for 25 damage and one bar of Health comes back to you. one bar equal 30 damage.. it would make sense to think that not only are you hurting him for 25 you're getting back 30 which is an exchange of 50 points. Unless if you have full health.. Because he has to get that damage on you once more. Think about it.
Yes! If you would hit him at 25 damage, it will put you at 25 more health than him. If you Demons Embrace him, it will put you are 55 more health than him. So in effect, DE does 55 damage... but not really... Nice thought!
Demons Ball, When you're close to a wall, guarantees a neutral left heavy attack for 55 dmg. Unless Opponents gaurd is to the right, If this is the case, you can zone or light for alternative punish.
Thanks for watching! Yes Peacekeeper has had some changes, but her punishes remain mostly the same: On Guard Break she can do Side Heavy + Light for 21 Raw Damage and 10 Bleed. Wall Punish (far distance) now deals 2 more Raw Damage (dodge Heavy deals 17. Before it was 15) OOS Parry now deals 2 more damage (Second Heavy deals 27 damage instead of 25). OOS Parry from top guard should be: Top Light, Top Heavy, Light and it deals 2 more damage than it used to.
Am I the only who finds it that him having armor at all times that goes away after one hit and comes back is much less annoying then how he is now? Because literally every attack has armor with it and even if you hit him during the attack. He can throw out a light that’s armored literally 2nd after.
@@cowboymarco7235 Idk what you're doing different with the oos throw/parry punishes, but for me they are also late enough to execute. The way you did them makes you vulnerable to gb. I'll need to test it a bit more
Yes and no. The OOS Throw is safe, the OOS Parry: Light, Charged Top heavy is unsafe and you can be Guard Broken. Someone pointed out in the comments, that you can change direction and do a Side/Top Heavy, Charged Top Heavy. That is more damage and it is safe
One kinda funny thing that you can do with Shukogi is that after a Hug try to guard break and if you get that guard break you get another hug out of that if theres a wall nearby. & The assholes like me can repeat this if the enemy doesn't know how to counter guard break
@TheDestroyer Um.. He has never had a really strong heavy parry so whats the problem again? He also GAINED damage with the zone choice so i'm not seeing what you mean really. if you talkin about the missing headbutt follow up, you can still do it, but now at a risk
@TheDestroyer I'm confused. This wasn't a response to you.. I was responding to original poster when he mentioned shugos heavy party punish only being 15 which is rather common for most heroes. Edit: seems I accidentally replied to you in previous post so that's my mistake lol
TheDestroyer lmao fuck ur trash kid learn to feint and bait out parries then and practice parrying ur self in training mode this game rewards time and effort if u cant be fucked then dont diss the people who did put the time and effort in and go find another game
That was also my first impression. I still think his attacks are too low compared to how slow they are, but I like his mixup potential. Much better than before.
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on OOS parry you get heavy from opposite side to top charged heavy.
You are totally right! Can't see how I missed it. It also works on Top parries
@@cowboymarco7235 can make zone and top charge heavy is 65 damage.
What if its a top oos light parry
@@jordangentsch9868 That's a solid question. I haven't been able to test it, but another guy commented that you get top heavy to charged top heavy.. You can get that off a Top heavy parry as well. And it is safe
@@jordangentsch9868 top oos attacks can be punished by heavy from any direction -> charged top heavy
I like the shugo rework cause I mean hes at least way more viable in duel modes and the ability to charge the second heavy makes him really dangerous in 4s with the heavy heavy chain. I wish they would have given him light light as well so there was some more mind games to the light attack followup but with the demons embrace mix up I dont think it ends up being much of a problem. The main thing ive seen complaints about is that his damage is too low, and I can definitely see where people are coming from with that, I do think they went just a little bit too far with the heavy damage, but imo its still not the worst thing in the world. Overall its a pretty solid rework. Shugoki's no longer complete trash, or boring to fight anymore, but at the same time hes not op (even though he deserved to be after all they put him through lol) I probably still wont play shugoki, he never was too interesting to me either way, but so far its been a lot more fun to play against for SURE.
I absolutely agree. He is much more fun to play against now and he has many new mindgames he can play, not just charge heavy and release at random times.
His damage output seems too low as it is now. He is slow but does not get much damage in return for his effort.
It's fun that you mention the Light, Light combo. I actually expected that he would had gotten a Light, Light combo, but I guess Lights will still just be used to shut down people.
Quality video where I learned more about one of my characters, thank you!
Thanks man. I'm glad to hear that
Anyone think his dmg values are too low? Jj currently outclass es him
His new moves definitely increase his viability in duels and tanks but yes I agree they went a little too far with the damage nerfs, I hope he get at least 5 back on his heavies and a they bring the critical back crack back but only too maybe 80% damage and recovery that would be dope
Brian Wilson I agree with damage buff but critical hit destroying most of your health should stay dead. It’s just not fun when u make perfect plays but one mistake negates all previous plays if he even does 80% Dmg
@@stevenlucmai3497 do I smell a victim of this attack
@@stevenlucmai3497 I think doubling the damage and health regain from a critical back break would be best for everyone. After a buff to the base demon's embrace to 30 damage.
Havel the Rock no, i think it should stay at 25, but maybe up it to 35 or 40 on critical and the life regen to 35 on critical too? A 5dmg upgrade on heavy attacks would be cool too
Oos actually grants heavy into fully charged heavy👍
You tested this?
You're right. It works on top parries and if you change side from the side you parried on. Nicely spotted!
@@futasvg-ftw7972 yup only seems to work from the top
Figured out a new max punish today,parry an opponent to the floor gets you a zone into top charged heavy
I can confirm that this works! But Someone also just pointed out that you can change side and do a heavy then top heavy. That works too.
The fact that he has many more opener and combos makes him one of the better characters in the game now in my opinion
Yeah, now his charged heavies reminds me a little of Kensei with his top heavy openers. Anything can happen
Skaegor I like to throw a backwards top heavy against most characters that can jump and close the gap or like Orochis stance. Although it’s irritating when playing dominion and your team continues to hit the enemy out of your embrace so you don’t get an health back
Cool video, this is the best shugoki rework guide
Thank you so much! I'm very glad to hear that
I see goki I like and subscribe, good stuff
Nice man! Thanks!
It’s probably worth mentioning that demons embrace heals all your stamina and regenerates 25 health
You're right, I forgot the numbers and didn't mention Stamina. Those are very important aspects of the move! Nicely spotted
Skaegor np man, glad I could help
The old embrace was better
Oos throw any direction can light hit just do a forward top light attack then charge top heavy
You're right! Top Lights always connect, no matter which direction you throw in and you always have enough time to change guard if you were not in top guard. Solid feedback! Thanks!
@@cowboymarco7235 One more thing to add is, that pretty much all of shugokis punishes are unsave to gbs. I tested a bit by myself and came to the conclusion, that if you throw a top light of of a throw (guardside you were before doesnt matter) the enemy stumbles upon impact of the chrged heavy and is not gaining hyperarmor like he would if you threw a sidelight. Although the enemy can still gb you (because why give shugoki a save punish) the stumble can be used in teamfights for you team to still hit him without the enemy being able to block or parry for a short duration
Keskiyö RAVEN unless your going against players who know that, your fine for the most part.
with shugoki you can really get into your opponent’s head with demon’s embrace and charged heavies. try to make a pattern and then break it quickly to throw the opponent off. if you charge a heavy and demon’s embrace and then do it again, they will just think you are spamming that at that point, and they will try and dodge when you can fully charge the heavy this time and get them while they dodge. of course, this will only work with side charges if they try and dodge, so it might not be the best move all the time, but it is a helpful tip. you wanna mix the pattern up though, that way they don’t start predicting you.
The first 12 seconds summed up my demons embrace experience. That and the low damage and u can't do it from neutral
I actually enjoy not doing it from neutral. I used to accidentally pop it off all the time, and this new input makes it much easier to control.
Hahah yeah, I did hope they would keep the critical Demons Embrace, but I guess not
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Keep up the good stuff! 👍
Thank you so much. Just saw this comment now. It means so much to me. Have a great day
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Have a great day as well! =)
It’s late but after a Demons Embrace you can guardbreak when they are getting up however it’s not guaranteed
Oh yeah, I've been caught by that myself. Good suggestion
Skaegor Thank you
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QUACK! That sound of death XD LOVE IT!
Hahah yeah I love that sound.
I'm surprised at how fun he is to play. Currently only fought against bots since the rework came out but he seems pretty viable in PVP
Yeah, he much more fun now! You can really mess with people's heads if you Charge heavies and then:
1. release
2. press GB (go into jelly hug)
3. cancel to light attack.
I also found that few people can dodge a followup headbutt. If you land that then throw a heavy from where their guard wasn't. It lands 50% of the time and I have never been parried this way.
Nothing was ever guaranteed of a demons embrace
I used to be able to get side lights, if your guard was opposite the opponent when initiating the Demons Embrace
before the reqork he was very good, now he's INCREDIBILIS
He wasn't
I've actually been able to get a charged heavy on a wall throw but you have to be in a perfect position to throw them and charge the heavy while they are still hitting the wall
Actually you can get a fully charged heavy from a side throw but you have to space it perfectly to where they wall splat at the last moment
A secret punish that I found is if you parry an OOS top light you get two top heavies. Pretty gnarly
I haven't been able to test it, but that sounds painful!
No ones throws light when oos
Nice video man I am new to the game and I am really interested in shugoki but I am also trying to learn Nobushi and Orochi can you make some guides on them? maybe even Kensei i am really bad with him too
Thanks, glad you like it! I do have similar videos for all the heroes in the game. You can check them out in my channel. They just focus on punishes though, but if I get more time, I do want to make real training videos. I'll keep these in mind.
@@cowboymarco7235 Thanks man
If you demon ball into a wall you get a zone. Read it off reddit and it worked 3/3 times for me when i attempted it in game.
That is correct! I tested it and it works. You can also get a left side heavy
@@cowboymarco7235 Whaaa...so demon ball plus left side heavy = 55 damage. Thats crazy. Thanks.
@@siddjp6539 pretty good for a guard break :p
The oos throw I was always able to get top light in to charge heavy
Great vid
Thanks man!
I've noticed that an OOS parry on a wall grants a heavy into charged heavy
Yes! You're right!
Also, someone pointed out to me that you can change direction of your heavy after OOS parrying and you can land Heavy into top Charged Heavy
@@cowboymarco7235 ooo juicy! Thanks m8
very good video, I'm waiting for your channel, I trust your videos :), do you have any prediction for the punishment video of black prior ??
Thanks man, I'm so glad to hear that! I will do a video about Vortiger, but I didn't pre-order him, so I have to wait until he is properly released next week. Looking forward to playing him though. Looks really fun.
@@cowboymarco7235 I understand, I'm waiting for the video, I think ubisoft should be giving channels like yours, with free access to these DLCS, since you spend tremendous time to create the videos and help spread the word and pass on knowledge
(I'm Brazilian I'm using the translator, I'm sorry for the meaningless or wrong sentences)
@@Byzunful Oh yeah, it would be nice with some help from Ubi, but maybe if my channel was bigger it could happen.
I would had never guessed you used a translator. It looks like a native English-speaker wrote it ;)
You miss the top out stamina parry that get you one top heavy attack and another charged Heavy from top that as well if the person low on health you can execute from at 75 dmg. Me and a friend been working on it from when I hit rep 62 on Shugoki and it seem to work.
i think near the wall you can Deamon Ball and light(can't block), but only when enemy don't fly away
Crit hugs no longer insta kill and you have to soft faint a heavy to demons embrace
Something I do when the opponent is on the ground is a zone then top heavy which is 55 damage in total (rather than light and heavy)
Yeah, I discovered that too late. If they are knocked down from a OOS Parry you can change guard and do Heavy to Charged Top Heavy :)
3:46 you misspelled ligma
Ah yes, nicely spotted. *ligma attack
Skaegor 😂
With out of stamina parries you get a top heavy into unblockables for 75 dps, if you parry a side just switch your guard to top, a side heavy into unblockable does not work, only top into unblockable
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Thank you man
What have they done
Fun idea demons Embrace hurts the other player for 25 damage and one bar of Health comes back to you. one bar equal 30 damage.. it would make sense to think that not only are you hurting him for 25 you're getting back 30 which is an exchange of 50 points. Unless if you have full health..
Because he has to get that damage on you once more. Think about it.
Yes! If you would hit him at 25 damage, it will put you at 25 more health than him. If you Demons Embrace him, it will put you are 55 more health than him. So in effect, DE does 55 damage... but not really... Nice thought!
Demons Ball, When you're close to a wall, guarantees a neutral left heavy attack for 55 dmg. Unless Opponents gaurd is to the right, If this is the case, you can zone or light for alternative punish.
You are right! Nicely spotted! And his guard is naturally in the left after Demons Ball. It cannot be dodged either. It is guaranteed.
@@cowboymarco7235 Something I've discovered while labbing Shugoki ^^
If you cannon ball them against a wall you can get a light off before they're able to get up
Nicely spotted. I think you can even get a heavy if you don't change guard direction!
@@cowboymarco7235 yep you definitely can, damn 55 off of a gb then straight into a chain
is his headbutt a 50/50, like wardens sb if you charge it up then it tracks if you dodge it
No
Luckily not. I was also afraid that was the case!
You can just clean dodge it without risking to be punished for it.
Thanks for the vid friend. Do you know if peacekeepers punishes were changed at all?
Thanks for watching! Yes Peacekeeper has had some changes, but her punishes remain mostly the same:
On Guard Break she can do Side Heavy + Light for 21 Raw Damage and 10 Bleed.
Wall Punish (far distance) now deals 2 more Raw Damage (dodge Heavy deals 17. Before it was 15)
OOS Parry now deals 2 more damage (Second Heavy deals 27 damage instead of 25).
OOS Parry from top guard should be: Top Light, Top Heavy, Light and it deals 2 more damage than it used to.
OOS parry: change direction, heavy, charged heavy up
You're completely right! It's extra damage and it is safe from GBs. Thanks for the input
A gb after Demons embrace will catch a lot of people as they won't eXpect it but don't do it every time or people will start to counter it
Yeah that is a good on! Then throw them into a wall and Demons Embrace again !
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Am I the only who finds it that him having armor at all times that goes away after one hit and comes back is much less annoying then how he is now? Because literally every attack has armor with it and even if you hit him during the attack. He can throw out a light that’s armored literally 2nd after.
Being gbd after every attack would suck
If the demon ball is close to a wall he garantee a zone atack and is 45 damage
Nicely spotted! I checked and it is indeed guaranteed
@@cowboymarco7235 Idk what you're doing different with the oos throw/parry punishes, but for me they are also late enough to execute. The way you did them makes you vulnerable to gb. I'll need to test it a bit more
You can guardbreak an enemy who just got released from demon embrace.
I assume all the oss punishes are unsafe.
Yes and no. The OOS Throw is safe, the OOS Parry: Light, Charged Top heavy is unsafe and you can be Guard Broken.
Someone pointed out in the comments, that you can change direction and do a Side/Top Heavy, Charged Top Heavy. That is more damage and it is safe
Aww my big baby boi can't aggressively hug people to death... Dis make a me cri 😭😭
One kinda funny thing that you can do with Shukogi is that after a Hug try to guard break and if you get that guard break you get another hug out of that if theres a wall nearby. & The assholes like me can repeat this if the enemy doesn't know how to counter guard break
I like him better because when i fight shugo players i know the fight is going to be fast and intense
Yeah, agreed. Before the fights were always slow and you couldn't do your regular combos on him
You can DE minions still without the need for a guardbreak
If they fix his hug tracking he will be perfect
After a demon’s embrace, I go for a guard break while they’re getting up. They usually don’t expect it and that gets you another 25 damage
Yeah, I though about doing that too! Could be fun to throw them and then do another demons embrace :P
Infinite Goki combo. Embrace, gb, launch, repeat
Usually after doing that I dash towards them do an area then a heavy
Er du dansker??
Hæll yes mand
Disabler heavy hitter
heavy parry gets 15 or 20 damage yeah ok
@TheDestroyer Um.. He has never had a really strong heavy parry so whats the problem again?
He also GAINED damage with the zone choice so i'm not seeing what you mean really. if you talkin about the missing headbutt follow up, you can still do it, but now at a risk
@TheDestroyer I'm confused. This wasn't a response to you.. I was responding to original poster when he mentioned shugos heavy party punish only being 15 which is rather common for most heroes.
Edit: seems I accidentally replied to you in previous post so that's my mistake lol
@TheDestroyer lol
@TheDestroyer " i suck at the game so i hate people who are good at it"
TheDestroyer lmao fuck ur trash kid learn to feint and bait out parries then and practice parrying ur self in training mode this game rewards time and effort if u cant be fucked then dont diss the people who did put the time and effort in and go find another game
You sound Danish. Are you from around there?
Nicely spotted. I am Danish ;)
3:46 you spelt light wrong my guy :)
Yesss! I saw it after uploading. Literally unwatchable, right
It’s fine but great vid btw
@@Zeruel-Dyn Thanks man :)
You sound like a character from the simpsons
Hahahah! Cool...
Why dose he not have hes one shot kill DE anymore :( i dident mind it, it made shugoki scaryer, in my opinion he is still bad
Yeah I miss it too. It could really turn the battle around. It is still alright. Now it is good for regaining your stamina and keeping pressure up
You sound Danish, anyway great guide.
Shugoki is op he needs a nerf
As u have Centurion in ur name😂
Are you Indian?
I'm Danish... Close though ;)
@@cowboymarco7235 nice man, and good Video 👌
@@ems22playbook Thank you! :D
You sound so danish xD
Ja mand! Det kan jeg ikke løbe fra
i find him weak and also much more boring,and still at bottom of damage to other heavies. to me he gained too little and lost too much .
That was also my first impression. I still think his attacks are too low compared to how slow they are, but I like his mixup potential. Much better than before.
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