[勝利の女神：NIKKE] JP Tierlist
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I think eventually there’s going to be a need for separate tier lists based on game modes, such as interception, coop, story, etc. They can have different kind of mobs; some units perform better against groups, and some against bosses. There might eventually be a time you need shields more than heals, and vice versa.
I think future Nikke content is going to revolve its metas around all these mechanics to make compositions and overall gameplay a lot more dynamic and interesting to force people to build teams they wouldn’t otherwise. In other words, every Nikke _might_ eventually and potentially be best Nikke depending on the situation at hand.
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I'd like that, just having one meta to rule them all creates a problem down the line, where you have a unit that you essentially cant swap out.
This is what Counter:Side Prydwen does. They do different tierlists for different gamemodes then also has a general ranking for PVE / PVP. Would appreciate to see it for NIKKE too.
Yeah, even shooting range should have different tier list
yeah such new unit Helm - she is amazing in boss fights ... but boi she sucks ass where you need AoE. So she is S/SS in boss , B maybe even C in Aoe content.
The reason why Yulha is T0 in CN is based on how CN found that damage calculation is slightly different. Atk dmg buff= final damage buff is what they found out.
Here’s the formula:
Damage=Base Damage x (1+(Crit modifier: Base=0.5) + (Weak point modifier: Base=1) + (Range modifier: Base=0.3) + (If destroyable parts: Base=0.5)) x Atk Buff
I’ve never tested it myself, but if it’s true than it explains why Yula is T0.
Admi is slept on. She does Reloading Speed 50.91% for 10 sec & Critical Rate 28.34% for 10 sec. Great for Scarlet. I run Scarlet/Liter/Admi/Yuni/Helm atm
I agree with you, I gotten admi early on but i overlooked her as i see her damage is low, so i tried to get another dps to help Scarlet.
But in the end, i rather have Admi than another dps. My team is similar to yours as well.
Scarlet, Liter, Emma, Poli and Admi.
I feel like you only need 1 dps if ur dps is scarlet as long as ur team can heal and buff scarlet well.
does she combo with privaty?
@@chiesuta7810 yes, absolutely
volume, admi, privaty and drake are my team since I don't have any Pilgrims
got me to ch 11
Admi my core supp than liter,she's amazing for my Scarlett and harran
Yeah i like admi too,great for my crit&critdamage team
6:25 Miranda SS Let's gooooo that's the only tier list I care about lmak
I kind of agree with the 2nd JP tier list with Miranda at SS, she is Burst 1 and has a 20s cd enough for consistent rotation. Plus her buffs which at max are 33% team crit damage and 40% attack and 56% crit damage for the ally with highest attack all have a 10s duration.
So technically 10s cd for all the buffs + the burst gauge meter are the only factors affecting her buffing consistency. That's why she is so good of a support for someone like Scarlet who if you dump all the crit damage and attack buffs just destroys everything.
The only thing that's getting on her way as well is because the Burst I slot will always going to be staple for Liter, but for the ones who have Miranda instead then she's definitely a very good alternative that can be better/on-par with Volume on the Burst I slot tbh
@@SCRKT007 not true . If your team revolves around 1 super carry Miranda buffs are just substantially better. For balanced team yeah Liter sure, but hypercarry - its Miranda not Liter. Her buffs are better and last longer - sure for 1 , but if that 1 is dealing brunt of damage - no question asked.
@@SCRKT007 i have liter but still use miranda cuz of my III is scarlet. seeing 10k++ dmg on normal hit crit is satisfying.
my volume to admi to scar is just gold
Glad they’re seeing my favorite girl Admi’s strength.
8:01 Once it's fix, then what they're saying isn't wrong. Since the skill description does say it affects All Allies and they gain a shield equal to xx.xx% of the caster's MaxHP for 10s. The visual que of Poli's Burst-III does cover the entire area of where the five Nikkes are attacking.
I thought that after testing Poli ability wasn´t really bugged, they thought so because the shield is only shown on her character hp bar (which makes senses since it is a shiled based on her hp percentage) but it actually prevents damage to all NIkkes.
i use poli and the shield is there but break after just a touch of miissiles from enemies
@@medoaridorinkashort3062 The shield will break instantly if Poli is low level (with lower maximum HP) and you are challenging a stage above your recommended power.
@@goshtic9565 is lvl 85 considered to be low level ? my skill lvl is still lvl tho . not really much differences in term of firepower againts enemies
@@goshtic9565 skill lvl 3 *
Scarlet don’t need to be at the top of every tier list we get it at this point 😂
Yea after 50 rerolls, at best 2 Harran and no Scarlet
@@chrisw4672 bro i made i think, 30, no haran, no scarlet and no liter lmao, i get content with noah, dolla and julia
@@chrisw4672 tbh, Harren is somehow better than Scarlet in every way (atleast for now). I'd be happy asf if i got 2 Harren instead of Scarlet since I passed higher power stages w Harren+Helm, but not Scarlet+Helm. And why didnt i use scarlet+harren comp? I got no healer in my team, no shield regen too, so recruiting Helm was a bless for me at this point.
@@chrisw4672 u can do it lol i got lucky and did 23 rerolls and got her
@@Y4ngCP i literally get liter consecutively in my 15-22nd reroll lol
It really depends on the game modes I feel like because from what I gather from Prydwen's tier list is it is based on end game and JP / CN seems more generalized or based on burst. Its still nice to see that there is some common ground, but also a bit if differences giving real concise reasons for where they are placed and could have more uses depending on how your team is set up.
Prywiden base on end game?but harran not top tier?I use scarlet from new and now chap 7 harran become monster damage outclassed Scarlett,so Scarlett become my 2nd damager,coz only I need her assault
@@rhadeniz Harran and all other charged weapon users have a bug rn where the charged damage bonus for their weapon applies to their skills/bursts, which makes them do insane damage. Basically a 250% multiplier on everything. When it gets fixed Harran won't be doing as well.
jiggles dont lie indeed. enjoyed all the insights for each nikkes
We want the "Plot" Tier List next! ayooooooo!
Maiden was very strong actually (progress 10-7 tower 67)
I can relate bro. She deals 30% more dmg than my Volume with her having 5 level above over Maiden.
Thanks to her self cd and atk buff, but the disadvantage is she taunt enemy
Thanks for info but my damager has filled by Scarlett and harran
Eh? her self buff is even worked. So her burst doesn't get bonus. Her taunt is working but that made her die fast.
Admi has been amazing for me. Also she's by far the cutest and wholesome Nikke so I'm happy using her whenever I can.
You are missing that Privaty's 2nd skill Nukes the fuck out of bosses when she fires last shot during stun from her ult. Her team buff is also huge ATT wise.
yeah but Privaty ...nerfs Scarlet so hard with her skill 1 ... ATK and faster reload dont make up for this terrible debuff on max ammo. Privaty good - but avoid teaming with Scarlet , Scarlet even with buff to reloading reloads fast and if she got 10 ammo instead of 20 ... dear God ... damage loss is real. Especially at low level of skills - and who has lvl 10 skills yet ?
@@Mario-kf3ej well I don't think i said anything about using Scarlet ;P
meta team tier list sound like content. But I already have rough idea base on this both CN and Jp tier list.
TimaeuSS, i think you should make a tier list for your viewer ~ i really want to see it.
I strongly suggest looking into the new cn thread where ppl tested out the formula of damage calc and that crit damage is a scam. Whereas attack up buff is an independent multiplier. This means crit damage buff is way worse than attack up buff in this game, not sure if this is what they intended but it is how it is. Overnight everything changed, there is the newest version of cn tier list and volume is straight going down to the worst tier. I'm surprised that none of the tier list makers really test out the real numbers but rather just assumes things. Still we appreciate them but try it out for yourself and see if volume provides more damage than n102
I have and will make a video
That is indeed an issue that needs to be addressed. On the bright side I doubt people really pulled her for her crit dmg buffs 👀🥵🍑
It’s mainly for CD reduction if you don’t pull Liter
idk bout volume but my team ran miranda/poli/anyII/helm/scarlet, i reach 4.15m?? (i forget what was the last reward score) in interception lvl D.. my lvl still 87. meanwhile change miranda to liter, no matter what i do, i cannot reach 4m barrier.
JIGGLES DONT LIE TIM!
I just noticed that you know how to read japanese, nice content as always
He is a Japanese…
@@thuchung9472 Ah thats news to me thanks for the info
Hi,
最终伤害=基础伤害×(1+(暴击伤害区：基础0.5)+(弱点伤害区：1)+(距离补正区：基础0.3)+(全爆裂补正区：0.5))×(攻击加成区)
China NGA player had caluculated final damage dealed:
Final damage dealed = base damage x 【1+ critical damage from 0.5 of base damage* + 1 of weakpoint damage zone + 0.3 of range compensated damage + 0.5 of full burst* compensated damage】 x attack buff
They concluded that critical damage nearly useless if compared with attack buff since attack buff was indenpendent damage multiple. Now Volume become worst character* ever. LOL
You can check it on NGA website and title was [讨论]nikke伤害计算公式疑似bug，官方存在欺诈性质的诱导玩家氪金行为
this is really interesting. pretty unusual for gacha game to not value critical more.
Holy shit crit is fucking garbage if this Formular is true. But in-game crits seem to do so much more damage than normal attacks
@@AZI-zh9fg think the deal is attack gets better returns as it buffs basic attacks and crit while crit doesnt double dip.
Running Liter, Yuni, Scarlet, Julia and Drake
Literally every server has Harran in T0, when will prydwen finally give harran her rightful spot in SS tier? We can only wait
Harran is bugged
Even without her 250% aoe bug harran still has the best aoe damage in the game along with virus. Room clear is super useful on defense mission and clearing waves on the way to the boss
well that only thing Prydwen got right - at single target fights Harran is D/C tier. whole kit is dead there. And those fights do COUNT high . Scarlet doesnt have such limitations.
see also the gamewith jp tier list.
it's more accurate in my opinion
are you going to do korean tierlist too?
Pretty happy with liter-novel combo so far
Im using this jpn guide a lot than prydwen. Because its more f2p friendly. Just my opinion.
I don't even use my scarlet. As long as you have liter and dolla, EZ progress.
maybe Poli is bugged if she only shield herself cause the description says she shield all allies
it works its just that the shield is based on her hp and is shared. its not 5 shields just one big ass shield. like that obnoxious shield mob.
6:17 wait so you do agree Dolla is SS? Why is she at the bottom of A in prydwen 🤨
cdr and attack buff, i certainly rate her higher than prydwen
This guy loses his mind if scarlet is not regarded as the best unit, come on bro
Guess you didn't use scarlet yet
Can't really call a tier list more or less "accurate". They're all opinions and should be taken with a grain of salt. Testing and simulations in one battle aren't really going to be applicable to the whole game. But it's nice to hear what communities find valuable and why.
i feel bad that i did invest on ludmilla, she is on T2 in both cn and jp tierlist :(
her taunt are not working at all that's why,
she can always come back at the back top after they fix her burst
T2 because bug
Will be T0 when the bug is fixed
Once that bug is fixed, you can safely invest on her and she'll shoot up in usability. Right now, that's not a good idea yet.
@@user-ck2rj7pv4h I don't think she'll be T0 even if they fix her bug tough. Maybe a good T1. At current content, taunt is just not that valuable yet
Isabel is the best shotgunner though for long battles
Hmm after looking at a few rankings I have to wonder if sniper Rifle limitations is really as significant. I see a lot of characters rated lower in prydwen mainly cause they are snipers and I would generally agree with the notion but is it the charge bug causing them to overperform?
prydwen rankings are joke - those tiers there are just random letters without meaning behind them. Good example would be Miranda at B - which we do know that Miranda goes SUPER WELL with Scarlet which is SS ... imagine rating someone B who is best support (better than even Liter for just Scarlet) at B ...
I could go on more , but even more funny examples are rating of Helm - dudes there claim that Helm is all good but Harran deals more damage.
Now you must question thier sanity what Harran has to do with Helm - 2 totally different units just being in burst III snipers doesnt make them same. But for Prydwen it does.
Helm is super good on bosses, super bad at AoE. Harran super good on AoE, pretty damn bad (after you take out bug) due to her skills on Boss fights.
Yet reason why Helm couldnt be S (of course she is easily) was because Harran is S ... but those 2 are totally for 2 different jobs. How can you compare. Helm is buffer too , but for Prydwen if you are labeled as "attacker" then your buffs dont count. If you are supporter but do good damage or tanking - it doesnt count because you are supposed to support (really read thier poetry there) and if you are good attacker but you are labeled as idk supporter - then you also trash because you don't support.
TLDR Prydywen is lazy as hell and many ratings are pulled from arse.
@@Mario-kf3ej Agree I don't trust Prydwen tier list at all.
wait, you can read japanese and chinese at the same time? damn u smart
I need some Tips on how to use Guillotine. I see her ranked highly on all these tier lists, but I can't figure out how to make her consistent. What teams/content does she perform best with? How do I lower her HP effectively?
Obviously she gets more DMG as she’s lower HP, but you probably want a healer or two (milk works for a lot of reasons) so she doesn’t kill herself as one of her passives eats 2% HP for every 100 shots I think. Generally I found just staying on her and never using cover works well, though I’m only in late chpt 8 on NA so I don’t know if I’m doing well or not myself lmao.
Units that provide defense to your team is good. You want guillotine to take damage so heals are less optimal.
I use Poli with guillotine
@@BluejacketGO yep confirming team up with Poli and / or damage sharing units like even Anis which is free so accessible. Liter works great too since she doesnt heal but replenish cover.
Really wish they would fix Pepper and Ludmilla, skill wise they should be OP combo
are all characters the same? jp, cn, global?
i mean level infinite also has tof and the characters from cn and global are not the same, was wondering
My thoughts about those lists include prydwen.
Shouldn't Aria be as good as Poli? their skill are pretty much a like.
Shouldn't Isabel always better than Vesti? Due to burst debuff. Given if SG and RL are equally performed.
apples to apples in the test that ive done privaty makes my team do more damage being the main burst 3 vs harran, even with harran having better gear, privaty in a vaccume is not as good as harran or scarlet, but with *liter, (dolla,yuni), insert another dps* comps i find privaty to do the best. {i do not have scarlet on my main account yet}
Dont they not consider bugs right? Cuz bugs are meant to be fixed and are not really what the ability is.
They haven't fix any character bug even after a week tough. At certain point, I wouldn't surprise if they decide to keep some bug as a feature
Hope they fix the bugs and improve the auto
I'm hella confused. Which is the accurate tier list bruhhh
I'm main in SEA server, but only got 2 SSR including Diesel.. but today rerolling in JP server, got 5 SSR...
Privaty can be argued as a SS.
ludmilla on T2?
Privity and helm is broken together
Thanks to this upload I don't feel disappointed with my team anymore despite having no luck rerolling Scarlet nor pulling Helm
Liter (3x)
Sugar
Dolla
Rapi
Mihara/ Pepper
damn you got liter dolla aka the broken combo
@@QtpieM yeap I was feeling down not pulling top tier damage dealers but then I realize the potential of Dolla I still need a solid attacker tho so please wish me luck
@@KaylerFaye26_ imo the best character you could get rn is prolly drake to complete ur shotgun team and if ur lucky maybe isabel as well
@@QtpieM you prolly have a lips of an angel I just pulled Drake from the High-Quality Mold . Should I replace Mihara/ Pepper or Rapi 🤔.
@@KaylerFaye26_ imo ur team rn should be liter dolla drake sugar pepper
Liter and dolla serves as ur god tier support powerhouse
Pepper is ur sub dps + healer tho rn she wont do much cus shes bugged but if shes fixed she will do wonders
Sugar and drake will be your primary dps
For burst always use liter dolla then alternate between drake and sugar
Use pepper burst for emergency
Anyone know the full download size of the game?
4.50GB
u don't need much heal when u have poli.. she can share dmg..
Doesn't Anis do the same?
Anis does not give dmg
But the only thing that hold me to use poli is,
Her CD are quite long if you go for 2-1-2 burst strat.
@@muchichi9928 try 122? ive been tempted too but currently running 113 with pepper(omgwhyisherhealbugged) diesel(imstarvingforIIburstsbutshegotmetochp10sow/e) and scarlet(blessedhelmbannerdrop) helm(+4wtf) and drake. might swap out drake with harran or snowwhite both helm drops...this fucking banner my dudes. 80 freegem pulls.
@@erpherp4047 oh thanks.
I already figure it out by myself after i got signal on helm banner.
Btw helm banner got me pain in the azz after 70pulls and just got signal...
Does JP tier most accurate?
No lol cn one is better
@@acetempest5830 really :)) ok thanks.
@@tanmayoken159 none of them are exactly correct and none of them are exactly wrong, global,JP,CN are all different, it show how 90% of the character are viable and its just a matter of team comp more than anything.
@@Sekkizan bruh en tier is just trash
different servers have different metas so nothing can really be conducted by merely looking at the tier lists. The way cn values nikkes are based on their damage output mostly, whereas for jp and glb maybe we could say it's on generality/ versatility instead. Basically for jp and glb, they have a better overview of the whole skillset of the character and their actual usage, unlike in cn where they literally only care about the dps (the higher the better) and the dmg boosting capabilities, so really it depends on which way you wanna go
Oh, I'm early
Can someone tell me how are people leveling up so much I am on day 5 and my char are only lv 68
Money
There are too many bugs in 5his game ....as content creator you should inform the Devs.
It's really ruining the experience+ plus we all got baited by helm's skill 3 bcz it says it DMG all the enemies in range but it only DMG single target.
False advertising ...it's illegal and dev should be held accountable
Ruppe and Yan at tier what?! Nah bro that tier list is whack
please make an video about the damage calculation and let the developer know their formula was wrong. how come att buff is much greater than cd, cr buff. this mislead the player to summon the cd, cr character. how come they cheat player.
whats wrong with attack buff being much greater than critdamage tho?
@@sriracha3458 the calculation that the CN PLyaer found is like this final damage dealer = base damage x (1+0.5 OF CRIT DAMAGE +1 of weakpoint damage zone+ 0.3 of range compensated damage+0.5 of full compensated damaged) x att buff. from here u can c that y final x att buff? if calculation like this mean att buff is much important that crit buff or crid damage buff.. normal game is their cd buff is calculate separate like (base att + other buff ) x cd buff. that what it should be. but this game is difference. so character like volume, and other character which buff cr or cd buff include the new character is useless bcus of this fuvkking shit calculation.
I'm sorry to say, these 2 gaming site are considered lame choices by core players in Japan.
Players at 5ch are much more advanced in terms of tier standards.
First!!!
Ludmilla. SS? Only on prywden...t2 for cn/jp...don't tell me this is not in your mind.
why dont you make your own tier list? @TimaeuSS
I base mine in their assets