It’s really weird he does this. I think he is against cancel culture and trying to interfere with people’s livelihood which Josh also dealt with. Also I think Josh is upset at DSP trolls for insulting him.
If anyone else did what Phil did here with the deflection, spinning, having a clear agenda and cowardly running away, he'd call him out. But because it's Phil it has to be the opposite. I don't understand if Josh himself has some agenda to defend DSP or if he's just that naive.
Null comes off as an actual regard whenever he talks about DSP, but wow his chat was even worse There’s nothing Chad about that Craig stream, Phil literally just brought Craig on to try and get him to bend the knee for making fun of him a year ago and Craig basically side stepped all his sad attempts
Yeah how much are you going to talk about something without doing any real research? I enjoy null talking about running the farms because he has a lot of unique knowledge and experiences, but talking about stuff he knows nothing about is a bit annoying.
@@robotgorilla-man6193 Talking about stuff he knows nothing about and acting like he's the smartest person on the internet...who does that remind us of? No wonder he has a soft spot for DSP; they are kindred spirits.
Nick was right about one thing. Josh is a terrible judge of character and has trouble understanding what motivates the behavior of people. Phil is a delusional narcissist and a pathological liar. That's the long and short of it.
I kinda understand Null's reasoning for this though, he has to deal with the most underhanded, slimy, disgusting people trying to tear him and his site down, and it's been happening for years at this point. I can't blame him for thinking DSP just isn't that bad, which too be fair, he isn't really. DSP for sure is a shitty person who deserves his lolcowdom but he isn't literal scum like some of the people that site has on it.
@@basement_dweller39 I disagree with you there. The reason why Phil isn't "as bad" as some of the others is because he is a paranoid hermit who never leaves his house. The opportunities just aren't there for him to be as bad as them. Make no mistake though. As @dcstiger stated, he is a delusional narcissist and a pathological liar. He is just as big a scumbag as all the other lolcows and he is scum.
@@harley4230 I care about a guy spending money when he asks for money for groceries and bills and spends it on a mobile game about sweaty men wrestling each other instead lmfao
It feels like a lot of the fans of Null and perhaps Null himself suffer from the same affliction DSP does; having all their socialization with anonymous internet friends and losing touch with normal human behavior. Anyone that was impressed by the way Phil awkwardly took 3-4 tries to set up craig for that final "joke" deserves a spot of glory in DSP's fanbase. Joon's description of DSP's fans says it best.
It was like that episode of South Park where Cartman's hand becomes Jennifer Lopez, and Cartman spends the whole episode badgering Kyle for being a skeptic, until Kyle concedes that there's a nonzero chance of that being the real Jennifer Lopez, and Cartman is like "HAH! GOTCHA!"
It’s true, I go to the DSP board on the farms and the tourists that show up there sometimes are so weird about how they try to police watching lolcows. I saw someone say detractors make fun of Phil for living in isolation but they are guilty of the same thing for only sticking to the DSP board. Dude legit compared Phil being a friendless hermit who leaves the house once a week to not spending more time on different parts of a message board. These people are losers
Nulls chat sounds miserable. Really that was "king shit" to them. Phil had to lead Craig on like 4 times for his planned mic drop, of pulling the plug like a child.
Man is that cringe how hard his chat is meat riding him. Dave is so awkward when he has any kind of interaction with other people. I seriously cannot see how people are fans of his.
He gives Craig crap for (possibly) using filters or makeup because "haha gay," but I'd rather do that than be Phil who puts almost 0 effort into his appearance, and actually WAS zero effort until LTG bullied him into changing.
@@tickmanipulator Null pretends to be a highbrow and neutral intellectual, but he knows his audience will instantly side against someone if you call them gay.
Easily explained by his white knighting and protection of chris chan despite the glaring red flags. Dude thinks he's somebody because he's a glorified discord mod
Context makes DSP look worse, not better. At least Craig had the balls to stick around after his GFY. DSP is the guy taking mad shi in standstill traffic then rolling up the windows and locking the doors when someone has something to say about it.
Phil said during his reveal that he chose all of the names, so he changed it to DownFromTheRafters before "selling" it. But of course we all know that it wasn't sold. It was always Phil and still is.
DSP cussing out Craig as he kicked him was a return to form. Its a breath of fresh air to see him drop the "chill and mature" schtick he's been trying to do for the past few years.
Phil is so dumb that he said he couldn’t give stuttering Craig a screenshot because he didn’t have the account anymore since he sold it. If he didn’t have the account then it would have made him look innocent since he could have instantly screenshotted the account and proved it wasn’t him. This is how you know he’s still lying about selling the account and about whatever bs screenshot he planned on sending.
I think he just has high cheek bones. Whether he has make up or not, he wants to look good for his audience. Sure it’s an internet show, but people wear makeup in the entertainment industry 🤷🏽♂️
Derich is a lot of things but a liar he is not, we can not go around besmirching the good name od derich when he will do that all on his own. Unlike phil and null, let keep it to the real facts.
Your wrong from the off. He didn't sell the account then name was changed. He said he asked scopely to change it, they agreed then he laid out a plan of leaving the guild then the name getting changed but the idiots at scopely jumped the gun and changed it early so everyone knew it was still him. Watch his video back and stop defending this idiot.
The way Philburt kicked Craig off showed just that he hasn't changed one bit and that he is one of the biggest cowards on the internet. When Philburt tries to "change" he only becomes far worse. He cries that he gets bullied all the time, but he is in fact himself the biggest bully of them all.
Philbert is such a cornball! Craig was acting like a mature adult… but DSPig acted like a spoiled child who couldn’t be talked to and have a serious conversation. (U can tell he never got the belt as a kid)
I don't get how Null doesn't see it. Phil is majorly disliked for his narcissistic traits - traits that we all have to deal with, and often hate, at the workplace and school environment. Phil is a major malignant narcissist, and the recent arc has only empowered his narcissism. Just look at it from this perspective: Phil has to be a dictator who has all the control, or the victim who uses other people as scapegoats. Never anything in between.
Dsp was obviously coached into that bit he didn't even do it right because Craig didn't even say yes he said maybe, Dave has to mess everything up Craig doesn't even need DSP their podcast is way more successful without dsp it's not my brand of content but dsp was not funny just cringe
It was the typical cowardice you would expect from Dave. Thinks he has the balls because he says it, but reveals he has none as he is too scared to face any confrontation for it. It's the verbal equivalent of claiming you won the fight you ran away from because you got the last hit.
The detractors can't seem to understand that they have annoyed everyone to the point that supporting phil just to spite them is the correct option lmao
Nah pf, terrible take. You can’t seem to understand that this pdf defender is irredeemable, and any support he receives is just reinforcing his scummy behaviour. I respect that this is your opinion, but please dude. Touch grass.
Love how Josh still gets things wrong. DSP said that he came up with all the name changes, so at the very least he was still in possession of the account after changing to "downfromtherafters". And Craig only told DSP to f himself because he basically called him two faced.
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null was so quick to defend dsp the second his chat didn’t agree with him 😭
It’s really weird he does this. I think he is against cancel culture and trying to interfere with people’s livelihood which Josh also dealt with. Also I think Josh is upset at DSP trolls for insulting him.
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I think Josh just sees Khet as a potential feeder channel in the future. He's trying to get on on the ground floor
If anyone else did what Phil did here with the deflection, spinning, having a clear agenda and cowardly running away, he'd call him out. But because it's Phil it has to be the opposite. I don't understand if Josh himself has some agenda to defend DSP or if he's just that naive.
Null comes off as an actual regard whenever he talks about DSP, but wow his chat was even worse
There’s nothing Chad about that Craig stream, Phil literally just brought Craig on to try and get him to bend the knee for making fun of him a year ago and Craig basically side stepped all his sad attempts
Josh was a confirmed dent when he said messing with Phil is pointless and deleted the DSP mega thread.
Dents gonna keep denting.
I think some of the more unhinged detractors upset him so hes unwilling to come to terms with what phil really is
Dentractors buying stools and rope as we speak
You’re a troll and a loser grow up
It’s amazing how often he fcks up lore
Once again, Null misunderstands.
But hes an internet intellectual and so much smarter than the trolls on his website! Lmao he's not as smart as he thinks
What do you expect from a chris chan fan
Yeah how much are you going to talk about something without doing any real research? I enjoy null talking about running the farms because he has a lot of unique knowledge and experiences, but talking about stuff he knows nothing about is a bit annoying.
@@robotgorilla-man6193 Talking about stuff he knows nothing about and acting like he's the smartest person on the internet...who does that remind us of? No wonder he has a soft spot for DSP; they are kindred spirits.
@@NuclearDetractor preach
Nick was right about one thing. Josh is a terrible judge of character and has trouble understanding what motivates the behavior of people. Phil is a delusional narcissist and a pathological liar. That's the long and short of it.
You’re a troll and a loser grow up and realize there are more terrible people in the Internet you control
I kinda understand Null's reasoning for this though, he has to deal with the most underhanded, slimy, disgusting people trying to tear him and his site down, and it's been happening for years at this point. I can't blame him for thinking DSP just isn't that bad, which too be fair, he isn't really. DSP for sure is a shitty person who deserves his lolcowdom but he isn't literal scum like some of the people that site has on it.
@@basement_dweller39 I disagree with you there. The reason why Phil isn't "as bad" as some of the others is because he is a paranoid hermit who never leaves his house. The opportunities just aren't there for him to be as bad as them. Make no mistake though. As @dcstiger stated, he is a delusional narcissist and a pathological liar. He is just as big a scumbag as all the other lolcows and he is scum.
You care about a guy spending money. That’s sad.
@@harley4230 I care about a guy spending money when he asks for money for groceries and bills and spends it on a mobile game about sweaty men wrestling each other instead lmfao
It feels like a lot of the fans of Null and perhaps Null himself suffer from the same affliction DSP does; having all their socialization with anonymous internet friends and losing touch with normal human behavior. Anyone that was impressed by the way Phil awkwardly took 3-4 tries to set up craig for that final "joke" deserves a spot of glory in DSP's fanbase. Joon's description of DSP's fans says it best.
It was like that episode of South Park where Cartman's hand becomes Jennifer Lopez, and Cartman spends the whole episode badgering Kyle for being a skeptic, until Kyle concedes that there's a nonzero chance of that being the real Jennifer Lopez, and Cartman is like "HAH! GOTCHA!"
You could see him moving the mouse in position for the button 😂
He ended the call before Craig could even hear the "go fuck yourself", bro was scared of an online confrontation 😂
It’s true, I go to the DSP board on the farms and the tourists that show up there sometimes are so weird about how they try to police watching lolcows.
I saw someone say detractors make fun of Phil for living in isolation but they are guilty of the same thing for only sticking to the DSP board. Dude legit compared Phil being a friendless hermit who leaves the house once a week to not spending more time on different parts of a message board. These people are losers
No, you people are the ones who are unhinged stalking and harassing and swatting people for 10 years. You need to grow up move on and get a life.
8:51 he had no courage to say it to his face and disconnected voice first. There is nothing "chad" about it. He's a coward.
what craig heard "Im not i-" call drops. Wow dsp you really gottem buddy, big time alpha dog energy bro, the kino chats gonna love it!
Pulling the plug like a kid when losing in a game yeaahhh very chad dsp totally not a manchild
And with that ending, DSP coins his newest nickname.
lolcoward
Leave it to Janny Jersh to continue to ballwash and gout guard for the Guy. Thank you dingus for posting these so i don't have to go to Rumble
I haven’t watched jewsh or the fagsino since they deepthroated Phil’s erect clit
Craig got pissed cause dsp attacked his character so he told him to gfy.
Nulls chat sounds miserable. Really that was "king shit" to them. Phil had to lead Craig on like 4 times for his planned mic drop, of pulling the plug like a child.
Man is that cringe how hard his chat is meat riding him. Dave is so awkward when he has any kind of interaction with other people. I seriously cannot see how people are fans of his.
Joon nailed it on the head. Dsp fans are subhumans.
It's not Alpha or Chad when you spend a minute setting it up and leading your intended "victim" to give you the reply you need.
And he didn't even get Craig to say what DSP wanted to set it up correctly, lol.
How can 75% of his chat think dsps coward boot was Chad? What is this world coming to
i was wondering the same thing
It's all about bias. They like DSP more than Craig. Pay these disingenuous clowns no mind.
After Null accused Craig of wearing makeup, the chat was permanently against him.
He had to get that mouse positioned over the Disconnect button 4 times, so awkward. What a loser
If Phil wasn't so lazy he'd be dangerous, like Gacy dangerous. Lacks empathy, doesn't understand social ques and is a narcissist .
Yeah, if phil didn't have a 60 iq he might be the next failed Austrian painter
But that’ll never happen 🤣
He's also the dumbest pig on earth so I doubt he is capable of anything serious
He gives Craig crap for (possibly) using filters or makeup because "haha gay," but I'd rather do that than be Phil who puts almost 0 effort into his appearance, and actually WAS zero effort until LTG bullied him into changing.
Phil looks like melted cheese
Phil 100% dyes his hair too, you dont have your patchy facial hair go 95% white while not a follicle on top unchanged
yeah craig is beautiful i don't get the hate
Homo-style comment
@@tickmanipulator Null pretends to be a highbrow and neutral intellectual, but he knows his audience will instantly side against someone if you call them gay.
Wow, Null remembers a lot of things wrong. He might want to go get checked for early onset dementia.
Whether he’s a mega whale or not, the more disappointing thing is that he is 42 years old and this is all he has to show for it
I mean he has a horse and a cat. :p
@@pbtootall86the evidence is overwhelming, and the 11th hour story change to “I sold my account” is ridiculous.
Dsp already kicked Craig before he said what he said. So no, that wasn't an alpha move. It was a cowards move.
Ball wash Josh is only nice to DSP because he had problems with the board before and just wants to noise them up.
i can't believe his chat are serious and not larpers, actually insane
I'm surprised kiwi farms is run by someone who is so naive, and seems to be a fan of Phil too ? Weird.
Easily explained by his white knighting and protection of chris chan despite the glaring red flags.
Dude thinks he's somebody because he's a glorified discord mod
Josh defends DSP yet again. Color me surprised... 😴 💤 🛌
Yeah, he "sold" the account from TheyCallMeDSP (a.k.a Phil) to Downfromtherafters (a.k.a Phil). Seems about right!
We are in the worst time line
Phil asking to say his piece, then saying eff you and kicking him just shows that he is in fact....an internet forum moderator.
Context makes DSP look worse, not better. At least Craig had the balls to stick around after his GFY. DSP is the guy taking mad shi in standstill traffic then rolling up the windows and locking the doors when someone has something to say about it.
Null got a lot of facts wrong here.
Phil said during his reveal that he chose all of the names, so he changed it to DownFromTheRafters before "selling" it.
But of course we all know that it wasn't sold. It was always Phil and still is.
Nell jut subscribe to DSP and become a paid member of the highest tier already. We all know you want.
DSP cussing out Craig as he kicked him was a return to form. Its a breath of fresh air to see him drop the "chill and mature" schtick he's been trying to do for the past few years.
Phil is so dumb that he said he couldn’t give stuttering Craig a screenshot because he didn’t have the account anymore since he sold it. If he didn’t have the account then it would have made him look innocent since he could have instantly screenshotted the account and proved it wasn’t him. This is how you know he’s still lying about selling the account and about whatever bs screenshot he planned on sending.
Craig looks like a ventriloquist doll, but hes done a great service for the snortex. Not a craig fan at all, but credit where credit is due
I think he just has high cheek bones. Whether he has make up or not, he wants to look good for his audience. Sure it’s an internet show, but people wear makeup in the entertainment industry 🤷🏽♂️
Derich is more credible than Phil.
Derich is a lot of things but a liar he is not, we can not go around besmirching the good name od derich when he will do that all on his own. Unlike phil and null, let keep it to the real facts.
it took him twenty years to set up the weakest burn of his life.
Thanks for posting these
Phil never sold his account. He got the name change before the "sale".
This explains why there is still plenty of low effort bait and ballwashing for DSP on the subforum still.
Your wrong from the off. He didn't sell the account then name was changed. He said he asked scopely to change it, they agreed then he laid out a plan of leaving the guild then the name getting changed but the idiots at scopely jumped the gun and changed it early so everyone knew it was still him. Watch his video back and stop defending this idiot.
The way Philburt kicked Craig off showed just that he hasn't changed one bit and that he is one of the biggest cowards on the internet. When Philburt tries to "change" he only becomes far worse. He cries that he gets bullied all the time, but he is in fact himself the biggest bully of them all.
Null is the lolcow farmer, it is what it is
Alpha is trying to have a mature conversation. Not an immature screaming match.
Thanks for documenting the outer edge of the vortex 😂
Philbert is such a cornball! Craig was acting like a mature adult… but DSPig acted like a spoiled child who couldn’t be talked to and have a serious conversation. (U can tell he never got the belt as a kid)
I don't get how Null doesn't see it. Phil is majorly disliked for his narcissistic traits - traits that we all have to deal with, and often hate, at the workplace and school environment. Phil is a major malignant narcissist, and the recent arc has only empowered his narcissism.
Just look at it from this perspective: Phil has to be a dictator who has all the control, or the victim who uses other people as scapegoats. Never anything in between.
It would been somewhat alpha-ish if he actually made sure Craig heard it and faced the backlash head on.
The narrator is misguided
phil is such an asshole he brought craig on just to do that to.
Dsp was obviously coached into that bit he didn't even do it right because Craig didn't even say yes he said maybe, Dave has to mess everything up Craig doesn't even need DSP their podcast is way more successful without dsp it's not my brand of content but dsp was not funny just cringe
null only partially understands dsp and detractors
LOL it was a bitch move but hilarious.
For a young kid maybe. The way Craig tore down everything Dave said was far more hilarious.
He cut Craig off before he said go fuck yourself😂 he is incompetent at everything
It was the typical cowardice you would expect from Dave. Thinks he has the balls because he says it, but reveals he has none as he is too scared to face any confrontation for it.
It's the verbal equivalent of claiming you won the fight you ran away from because you got the last hit.
But he did it too early. He kicked Craig, then said it. He fumbled the landing.
Brekke Plaza
Lysanne Dam
You got a lot of kasino dents in your chat it looks like.
Martin Sharon Wilson Scott Martinez Timothy
I thought I was the only one that thought Craig was using foggat filters
Harris Laura Lee Jennifer Johnson Donald
King DSP is based and chad.
Dented
@@chrisdornerrespecter8884 Sneed
The detractors can't seem to understand that they have annoyed everyone to the point that supporting phil just to spite them is the correct option lmao
Fuck you fight me irl
pdf file pfp your not valued and not loved
Nah pf, terrible take. You can’t seem to understand that this pdf defender is irredeemable, and any support he receives is just reinforcing his scummy behaviour.
I respect that this is your opinion, but please dude. Touch grass.
Go defend Derich lol
@@_-pf_gd-_ annoying people who are calling a degen gambler, beggar, and PDF is the correct option? Lmao you guys suck
Love how Josh still gets things wrong. DSP said that he came up with all the name changes, so at the very least he was still in possession of the account after changing to "downfromtherafters". And Craig only told DSP to f himself because he basically called him two faced.
DONT FEED PHIL.