wow are u kidding me thats it im done they gone went and hit a deck that DID NOTHING in the mata and was alrady tiar 2 and affordible just after reprinting trident dragion now they go and ax it even tho it was not problematic AT ALL to the game and was one of the actual ddecks remaining in the game that require some semblance of skill involving breaking bords and when to hamtrap properly unlike BRAINDED raiseaol and maliss that do DEGENERATE combos off of 1 card. time to finally quit yugioh for good thsi time- feeling angr
THIS LIST IS CRAZY! TENPAI HITS, YUBEL HITS, SNAKE-EYES HITS, NIGHTMARE AND JOWGEN BANNED, I GET TO KEEP MY SANCTIFIRE! LET'S GO! WHAT AN AWESOME LIST! IM SO HYPE! (Branded was my first deck along with Blue-Eyes. I've never used locks in branded. My main strategy is to stick Mirrorjade on the field and support it with Bystials, summoning Sanctifire when I'm low on resources, I use Sanctifire as intended :3)
So, let's see the end result: Snake-Eyes - Moderately hit, the Diabellstar engine isn't a starter into Ash, and Fire Kings lose a major way to get to Ponix. Yubel - Mostly untouched, losing a single Phantom (they only played 2 most of the time anyway) just means they don't use the extra body as material. Tenpai - Major consistency hits, now they'll just main in more copies of the other dragons they use and continue to ROFLstomp. Fiendsmith packages - Untouched. Not sure how they hit this without outright bans, any single card in the package has been run at 1 at some point. Branded - Untouched. We've known forever that banning Nightmare means they just go into Ida or Ra's Disciple instead. Albion is the problem, it needs the ban. Maliss - Untouched. D Shifter is still at three somehow. Ryzael - Untouched. Bonfire made it through another list at three, I expect this to stay top deck until the next list. Overall impact of the list: They hurt Snake-Eyes and Tenpai a bit. Everything else is basically untouched. This list changes little to nothing.
OSS was absolutly uncalled for. They reprinted the engine so it is affordable like what, 3 weeks ago? Put wanted and diabellstar to 1 that would be fine but not the key card so this engine even functions for so many different decks. Wished we would take more of an approach like the OCG did with ash, popla, diabell and wanted to 1 so the decks that use the engine can still function but arent as powerful as the new stuff they want us to buy
This is exactly how I feel. It’s incredibly shitty of them to completely neuter the deck like this so soon after making it affordable. Sadly this is nothing new, they’ve always done this but it still doesn’t make it okay by any means.
@@milky1234123 the point isnt if dia or wanted are problems, the point is to reduce consistency to a more fair level and still allow the bridge OSS provides to function. You dont have to destroy every deck to unplayability. Having ash, poplar, wanted, dia at 1 and maybe add OSS to 1 would result in a lot less consistency since you reduce the amount of starters but the deck would still function as evident by ocg still having fk se in top cuts just not as much.
Consistency hit are awful in the TCG because we don't have Maxx C to compensate for those hits. The problem with Original Sinful Spoil is that, it bridged the Diabellstar lore archetypes and add consistency to decks that happen to have a Level 1 FIRE monsters which limits card design so it's either gonna be this or Flamberge. Limiting WANTED and Black Witch is awful because Diabellstar is the main character of her lore and believe it or not, the TCG values that compared to the OCG
They should've banned Corridor and Flag to prevent other decks from going into Flame Banshee or using Bonfire to add Flag then end on Protos or Colossus if not both. This way, Protos will return to be played in Swordsoul and maybe in Ryu-ge in the future and Colossus can only be summoned in Thunder Dragons since there aren't that many Thunder monsters that activate in the hand and summon themselves in the first place
My 3 thoughts on the list: 1) I loved the presentation of the banlist, but think you’re right that some of the hits were a bit too late to be impactful. 2) As a R-ACE player, I hated the OSS hit. I understand why they hit it, but honestly the deck feels rough without OSS. Like pre-AGOV rough. Azamina is an option but it running multiple cards that play into droll just feels bad so Fiendsmith is likely the way to go (especially since it helps with unbricking your hand). 3) honestly was surprised by both Chundra & Kaimen hits. I thought they would limit the latter if Transcend got banned, but this is fine too. Deck loses its grind game and shifter makes it next to impossible to win if they can’t kill you turn 1.
Basically, they thank you for the assload of money people have given for Snake Eyes, now go do the same with Ryzeal. What now? I'm personally not going to try that hard for a chance at an air fryer.
Presentation of it was great.Banlist list was a bit underwhelming. It just solidify what I saw when I played at this YCS of Ryzeal and Malice being the two best decks. I’m just grateful they still make yubel playable into the next format.
I finally assembled my exodia deck with snake eyes engine and now its cooked💀 grinded a month with my ubreliable self-made, stuck together with flextape, exodia deck for this😭
I'm so happy they didn't listen to the loud majority but instead chose to to what they think is best. OSS is absolutely the right ban, not flamberge. and bringing back opening and air lifter so soon is hopefully a good sign for the future. that cards can come off the list sooner than you expect. for example kashtira unicorn, who was semi limited and then went back to 3 pretty quickly... speaking of unicorn, I'm happy they didn't ban it.
@@mickjaegar2379Anything pendulum is going to be heavily tiptoed around. They're afraid to give pendulums any sort of power, lest they go out of control again. Which is especially weird since they only really went out of control _once_ and we've had countless other archetypes for other mechanics get tiered since then, so...
Snake eyes hit is fine but there should be a bit more, Tempai it's ok but still have trident. Yubel... not enough for me. Branded ... why on earth not ban the awful fusion that cause unfair unfun locks ? Tiger, barrage, cyber jarre, the rullers regaining 1 copy is fine Pancra at 3 is fine but will not change anything. Other thing : ban lingering effects as Shifter and Dim barrier also deserve to be ban as Sanctifire it's just unfait to deal with those one card end turn
I can't believe there's people actually complaining about floodgates and Snake-Eyes, Fire King and Tenpai getting hit. Sure, just vomit your entire deck on the field. Just waste 30 minutes in your first turn setting and unbreakable board. Such fun, many strategy.
I started playing again about a year and a half ago, but this list cemented my decision to sell out of paper yugioh. I'm already burned out from being forced to buy all the new stuff to compete. If they're just gonna make the older decks unplayable each time, you'd have to be stupid to keep spending 500+ dollars on the new sets each time they come out. Accessibility makes card games fun, it boggles my mind how predatory this approach is. Just gonna play online and chill lol
thats the thing if they didnt ban anything then new decks wouldnt be played or if they did not as much. They are for profit so they have to do things in order to keep money coming in or else they will go out of business. Any business will do this or they will fail. It like saying you will keep a tv from the 90s because it does the same exact thing and looks the same as a new tv from this year. At the most basic yes same thing but completely different exp. IF they didnt mix up things then the game would be stagnant and you then have people complaining. This has been the normal thing in ygo for a very long time no idea why people get mad this happening when most of us know this is bound to happen and you just got to adapt. If you cant afford the hobby find something else cheaper
@@milky1234123 Moneys not an issue, I'm just probably gonna pick another hobby where I get more for my money xD When you buy a TV you use it for several years not a few months lol
But like iiiiiiis Tenpai really dead? Paidra still gets all you need and there are so many ways still between Gunroku and Dora Dora to get to Paidra, Chundra etc. Good hits imo, I'm just skeptical any time people say decks are "dead". It's just assertions to me
Pretty underwhelming list. Fenrir or unicorn should have been hit and If they don’t hit Ryzeal or M¥liss next list then I’ll know this banlist was just just to promote their Pricey new decks and cards.
Fenrir and Unicorn were recently let off the list and aren't even really the problem. I'd argue the lower leveled Kashtira or the normal spell are much more deserving of a limited or semi limited while giving fiendsmith a ban since they combo well with more decks and arguably are more powerful
Handtraps are one of the only things keeping these decks in check. If you remove them, you make it pretty much impossible to win if you lose the die roll.
Killing budget decks to promote more 400€ decks. Thank for always helping budget players. The thing that really bothers me is that at this point they were not the issue anymore... why. You either do it when they are tier 0, not when u reprint everything and people can afford it
I was kind a fan of the last two bus this is garbage. Finally snake-eye is affordable (and not dominating anymore torubaments) and it gets hit.... guess not buying products anymore
wow are u kidding me thats it im done they gone went and hit a deck that DID NOTHING in the mata and was alrady tiar 2 and affordible just after reprinting trident dragion now they go and ax it even tho it was not problematic AT ALL to the game and was one of the actual ddecks remaining in the game that require some semblance of skill involving breaking bords and when to hamtrap properly unlike BRAINDED raiseaol and maliss that do DEGENERATE combos off of 1 card. time to finally quit yugioh for good thsi time- feeling angr
Give me your stuff then quiter
Bro what? The deck is crazy stfu it needed to be hit
Better a quitter than child molester
Let's see the hard drive Yugioh player
Bye
Smartest tenpai player
THIS LIST IS CRAZY! TENPAI HITS, YUBEL HITS, SNAKE-EYES HITS, NIGHTMARE AND JOWGEN BANNED, I GET TO KEEP MY SANCTIFIRE! LET'S GO! WHAT AN AWESOME LIST! IM SO HYPE!
(Branded was my first deck along with Blue-Eyes. I've never used locks in branded. My main strategy is to stick Mirrorjade on the field and support it with Bystials, summoning Sanctifire when I'm low on resources, I use Sanctifire as intended :3)
Now branded just has to play disciple or ido or orthos💀💀
Let’s get rid of brandmid too
@@metis7534 next banlist, sure, cause I'll be on Blue-Eyes by then 🤣
@@metis7534 next banlist, sure, cause I'll be on Blue-Eyes by then
@@rxquestgordoUse Ra's Disciple while you Fusion Summon Egyptian God Slime to Tribute Summon the Egyptian God Cards!
Jowgen is preventive hit since you can send it to GY with cherubini and the new fiend link 4 can summon it.
Nah, Jowgen was the direct replacement for the gimnick puppet.
Jowgen is a better Vanity's Fiend.
@@mikehobbes6600 Kristya is the same and ido/ddd are better so it makes no sense to ban it as replacement of puppet.
So, let's see the end result:
Snake-Eyes - Moderately hit, the Diabellstar engine isn't a starter into Ash, and Fire Kings lose a major way to get to Ponix.
Yubel - Mostly untouched, losing a single Phantom (they only played 2 most of the time anyway) just means they don't use the extra body as material.
Tenpai - Major consistency hits, now they'll just main in more copies of the other dragons they use and continue to ROFLstomp.
Fiendsmith packages - Untouched. Not sure how they hit this without outright bans, any single card in the package has been run at 1 at some point.
Branded - Untouched. We've known forever that banning Nightmare means they just go into Ida or Ra's Disciple instead. Albion is the problem, it needs the ban.
Maliss - Untouched. D Shifter is still at three somehow.
Ryzael - Untouched. Bonfire made it through another list at three, I expect this to stay top deck until the next list.
Overall impact of the list: They hurt Snake-Eyes and Tenpai a bit. Everything else is basically untouched. This list changes little to nothing.
Man snake-eyes is entirely dead lol
Moderately dead??? The decks straight up dead so is yubel just copy master duel at this point miles better
@@somerandomdude5127yubel definetly didnt receive its last Hits in MD.
OSS was absolutly uncalled for. They reprinted the engine so it is affordable like what, 3 weeks ago? Put wanted and diabellstar to 1 that would be fine but not the key card so this engine even functions for so many different decks. Wished we would take more of an approach like the OCG did with ash, popla, diabell and wanted to 1 so the decks that use the engine can still function but arent as powerful as the new stuff they want us to buy
This is exactly how I feel. It’s incredibly shitty of them to completely neuter the deck like this so soon after making it affordable. Sadly this is nothing new, they’ve always done this but it still doesn’t make it okay by any means.
Womp Womp
dia and wanted arent the issue at all though its everything else
@@milky1234123 the point isnt if dia or wanted are problems, the point is to reduce consistency to a more fair level and still allow the bridge OSS provides to function.
You dont have to destroy every deck to unplayability.
Having ash, poplar, wanted, dia at 1 and maybe add OSS to 1 would result in a lot less consistency since you reduce the amount of starters but the deck would still function as evident by ocg still having fk se in top cuts just not as much.
Consistency hit are awful in the TCG because we don't have Maxx C to compensate for those hits.
The problem with Original Sinful Spoil is that, it bridged the Diabellstar lore archetypes and add consistency to decks that happen to have a Level 1 FIRE monsters which limits card design so it's either gonna be this or Flamberge.
Limiting WANTED and Black Witch is awful because Diabellstar is the main character of her lore and believe it or not, the TCG values that compared to the OCG
Bann Sanctifier and bring branded fusion back to 3, then it‘d be a good list.
They should've banned Corridor and Flag to prevent other decks from going into Flame Banshee or using Bonfire to add Flag then end on Protos or Colossus if not both.
This way, Protos will return to be played in Swordsoul and maybe in Ryu-ge in the future and Colossus can only be summoned in Thunder Dragons since there aren't that many Thunder monsters that activate in the hand and summon themselves in the first place
My 3 thoughts on the list:
1) I loved the presentation of the banlist, but think you’re right that some of the hits were a bit too late to be impactful.
2) As a R-ACE player, I hated the OSS hit. I understand why they hit it, but honestly the deck feels rough without OSS. Like pre-AGOV rough. Azamina is an option but it running multiple cards that play into droll just feels bad so Fiendsmith is likely the way to go (especially since it helps with unbricking your hand).
3) honestly was surprised by both Chundra & Kaimen hits. I thought they would limit the latter if Transcend got banned, but this is fine too. Deck loses its grind game and shifter makes it next to impossible to win if they can’t kill you turn 1.
There goes a budget deck for f’s sake
As a branded player, puppet lock was boring and I never used it. I like to see if I can actually out play my opponents.
Basically, they thank you for the assload of money people have given for Snake Eyes, now go do the same with Ryzeal. What now? I'm personally not going to try that hard for a chance at an air fryer.
Why they hate infernoble so much?
Presentation of it was great.Banlist list was a bit underwhelming. It just solidify what I saw when I played at this YCS of Ryzeal and Malice being the two best decks. I’m just grateful they still make yubel playable into the next format.
I finally assembled my exodia deck with snake eyes engine and now its cooked💀 grinded a month with my ubreliable self-made, stuck together with flextape, exodia deck for this😭
Deck list sounds interesting
I'm so happy they didn't listen to the loud majority but instead chose to to what they think is best.
OSS is absolutely the right ban, not flamberge. and bringing back opening and air lifter so soon is hopefully a good sign for the future. that cards can come off the list sooner than you expect. for example kashtira unicorn, who was semi limited and then went back to 3 pretty quickly... speaking of unicorn, I'm happy they didn't ban it.
And yet they're tip-toeing with Zoodiac and Performapal unhits for some reason
@@mickjaegar2379Anything pendulum is going to be heavily tiptoed around. They're afraid to give pendulums any sort of power, lest they go out of control again.
Which is especially weird since they only really went out of control _once_ and we've had countless other archetypes for other mechanics get tiered since then, so...
I still puzzle why Kashtira always dodge ban list so many times.
Snake eyes hit is fine but there should be a bit more,
Tempai it's ok but still have trident.
Yubel... not enough for me.
Branded ... why on earth not ban the awful fusion that cause unfair unfun locks ?
Tiger, barrage, cyber jarre, the rullers regaining 1 copy is fine
Pancra at 3 is fine but will not change anything.
Other thing : ban lingering effects as Shifter and Dim barrier also deserve to be ban as Sanctifire it's just unfait to deal with those one card end turn
I can't believe there's people actually complaining about floodgates and Snake-Eyes, Fire King and Tenpai getting hit. Sure, just vomit your entire deck on the field. Just waste 30 minutes in your first turn setting and unbreakable board. Such fun, many strategy.
Worst ban list
You are young are you
@ nope, I’m a doctor😂 I’m just miffed about Fire king getting screwed over
Sanctifire and his locks, shilter, dim barrier, flamberge, others awful Yubel cards as the continuous spell or field not being hit is b1d
@@victorleppas3067 maybe not flamberge
@@phoenixblade8315 a doctor who doesn't know how to spell "worst" LOL
I started playing again about a year and a half ago, but this list cemented my decision to sell out of paper yugioh. I'm already burned out from being forced to buy all the new stuff to compete. If they're just gonna make the older decks unplayable each time, you'd have to be stupid to keep spending 500+ dollars on the new sets each time they come out. Accessibility makes card games fun, it boggles my mind how predatory this approach is. Just gonna play online and chill lol
thats the thing if they didnt ban anything then new decks wouldnt be played or if they did not as much. They are for profit so they have to do things in order to keep money coming in or else they will go out of business. Any business will do this or they will fail. It like saying you will keep a tv from the 90s because it does the same exact thing and looks the same as a new tv from this year.
At the most basic yes same thing but completely different exp.
IF they didnt mix up things then the game would be stagnant and you then have people complaining. This has been the normal thing in ygo for a very long time no idea why people get mad this happening when most of us know this is bound to happen and you just got to adapt.
If you cant afford the hobby find something else cheaper
@@milky1234123 Moneys not an issue, I'm just probably gonna pick another hobby where I get more for my money xD When you buy a TV you use it for several years not a few months lol
Shame i was gonna try tenpai
At least i still have my centur-ion and shining sarcophagus
i can see tenpai being gone in MD
As a dragon ruler player… I’m hype
Tcg being late to killing decks is no surprise
Wake me up when they ban some hand traps
The pump and dump cycle continues
But like iiiiiiis Tenpai really dead? Paidra still gets all you need and there are so many ways still between Gunroku and Dora Dora to get to Paidra, Chundra etc. Good hits imo, I'm just skeptical any time people say decks are "dead". It's just assertions to me
Pretty underwhelming list. Fenrir or unicorn should have been hit and If they don’t hit Ryzeal or M¥liss next list then I’ll know this banlist was just just to promote their Pricey new decks and cards.
Fenrir and Unicorn were recently let off the list and aren't even really the problem. I'd argue the lower leveled Kashtira or the normal spell are much more deserving of a limited or semi limited while giving fiendsmith a ban since they combo well with more decks and arguably are more powerful
You don’t already know that ? Isn’t it obvious ?
Its always about promoting new decks , the banlist is not all about making the game healthy . Its often about forcing to buy the new cards
I prefer ban Dimension Shifter and Dimension Barrier rather than hit another Tenpai
Why do we need to hit D barrier if an XYZ deck just won a YCS?
the deck won with D barrier
Why more branded hits. Formal tho
D barrier def needed to banned 🙄. I thought this was gonna be a slaughter or we would get some crazy surprises. Decent list but underwhelming
Is everyone in this dudes community just brain dead?
1 colossus is easy to out, but 2 isnt that easy. 3 doesnt rly matter
They should have hit crossout to 2 or 1
They should have at least limited pot of greed
Lol
ill tell what it did, killed tenpai , thats it , the old meta shet decks are still tier 1 we have now 4 tier 1 decks wtf komoney
They need to put ash and all like them to one
Fukk it right? Just put everything at one given how you lot want everything banned and homogenized
Just ash and Dominus impulse the other ones are Fair.
Handtraps are one of the only things keeping these decks in check. If you remove them, you make it pretty much impossible to win if you lose the die roll.
Hand traps just keep me rouge decks in check. Thats the problem @PhuckedUpPhilosophy
@@salimrichard4090 try playing a rogue deck against a meta deck without handtraps. You will lose.
Lowkey I think the D-Barrier take was L
Killing budget decks to promote more 400€ decks. Thank for always helping budget players. The thing that really bothers me is that at this point they were not the issue anymore... why. You either do it when they are tier 0, not when u reprint everything and people can afford it
Water not hit at all
Oss is just one for one 🤷🏾♂️
Give me back Red Reboot
The craziest part
is that Mystic Mine is still banned
#UnbanMysticMine
Time ta quit yugioh again.
Snake eye players if you know you know but if you don’t…. We planned for this don’t panic
I was kind a fan of the last two bus this is garbage. Finally snake-eye is affordable (and not dominating anymore torubaments) and it gets hit.... guess not buying products anymore
Glad i quit this shit game xD
I honestly prefer these minimal ban lists