Hello everyone thank you for indulging in my excuse to talk about Michael Mann films - here's a playlist of my other DRIVER content: ruclips.net/p/PL643B5filmfF22BLaR-pK6XXbTR5UU-pw
If you ever wanted to do an entire video on Michael Mann, I'd watch it in a heartbeat. Your insights into his style and your description of his connections to modernism here are absolutely dead on.
For the escaping the docks mission, a massive truck actually smashed my car over the side, into the sea. I dived out of my car and swam to shore! Didn't need to follow a linear path or anything, just react to the situation as best I could, and it actually worked.
Some missions in GTA 3 and Vice City could be like that. But San Andreas onwards were on rails. I've seen vids of GTA5, where you have to kill a guy after storming his house, but if you snipe him from a distance, you fail.
@@worldcomicsreview354 Yep, that's my biggest issue with later GTA games, you are right on that my friend. E.g. In GTA 4 you get taught how to shoot out tyres, but if try and actually do it during a scripted chase mission it won't work, you have to just follow the script to a cutscene. So boring.
Amazing. I didn't want to deal with all those guards so I just shot down the first wave of enemies, jumped into the ocean, swam until I was almost dead and completed the mission.
It's kinda remarkable how much video games have been impacted by Mann's movies. GTA hitting it big while taking massive inspiration from Mann has led the many GTA clones to just feel like even more diluted versions of Mann's works. Mann's main characters being masters in their fields is really similar to how many game protagonists work. Plus there's stuff like Kane and Lynch 2 that feels like if Miami Vice took an adrenaline shot. I dunno what I'm saying I just love talking about Mann lol
You’re absolutely right though. The entirety of Kane and Lynch 2 reminds me of the meth tweaking skinhead shootout scenes from the 2006 version of Mann’s Miami Vice.
Max Payne 3 and Kane & Lynch 2 has so many similarities too: -Both are the sequels that weren't received well on launch -Both take place on locations where the protagonists feel alienated/are not used to it -Protagonists from both games lost their wives at some point -The stories of both games feature female characters that aren't seen much, but are important to the plot -Both antagonists are politicians There is probably more too
I'm from Istanbul. This game was a big thing for me back in the day. Although all those hates i spent many hours discovering all landmarks in Istanbul. Thanks Reflections for reflecting Istanbul's atmosphere in a such mystic way. ☺
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time. Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them). Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI). Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy. Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI). Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad). Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning! Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures. Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement. It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them. (19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).. Salam (Peace)
@@ililili6350 as an another istanbul resident, i was surprised how right the city felt, i imagine a newyorker might have felt the same for gta3s lc if that comparasion can help. Definetely not a recreation but a well done portrayal.
I'd love to see you cover Driver: Parallel Lines as well! Driv3r is the "black sheep" of this franchise, but Parallel Lines seems to have been almost entirely forgotten. Which is a shame because, while it may not have been as bold as its predecessor, I still think it's worthy of having a light shed on it for the things it does remarkably well and the fairly unique qualities it brings to the table in a genre like this (namely the timeskip from 1976 to 2006, which changes the entire aesthetic of the map and gives you a slew of new vehicles to play with -- that simply blew my mind when I was a kid, and I think it's a noteworthy feature in place of having multiple different maps like the previous games.)
One thing I did like about paralell lines as well was that New York felt like a CITY, with loads of traffic that takes the best part of an hour to drive across. As a cruising simulator, it's hard to beat, Though the incredible inability of the traffic AI to navigate left or right turns on junctions caused massive traffic jams and kind of spoiled the immersion, as did the disconnect between the appearance and performance of the cars. A 50's pickup and a late-70s GM B-body early should not be able to outdrag 1960's luxury coupes
Honestly, I just really didn't enjoy Parallel Lines so much. For me personally it felt like the story was so cut short it hurt the game, but I can guess why people enjoy it still. What little it does, it does pretty well.
I love this video on so many levels. Finding the beauty (both aesthetic and mechanical) in a janky, critically panned game, going deep on Mann films/modernism... all of it absolutely rules. Excellent work all round.
I originally typed out something long about the game as a whole, but I'll sum it up to this; Driv3r was awesome when it was new. Crashing the cars was just as fun as it was to crash them, all of my friends loved this game. It would be amazing to see a new, modern Driver series picked up by someone and made because we all know we need some company to give Rockstar's lazy asses some competition to force something new and not relying on dumb Oppressors (etc.) and making crazy money off microtransactions. With that said, another revival I am looking forward towards is TDU.
hands down one of my favorite games in the PS2 era. I don't even care about the bugs or glitches - it's been the same since Driver 1 flinging your car over the hills of San Francisco. nothing will ever top spawning in the apartment in Miami, walking out to the garage, getting in Tanner's car and exploring
I remember buying this on day one of release. It was so close to greatness, I played it a lot & did eventually finish it. The Driver games were always a little rough & ready but very soulful, just good fun to drive around getting the cars to do flips & Hollywood style antics.
Love the video! And for years i had the same theory - Driv3r was aiming really high, and it achived suprisingly much, considering how unfinished it was in the end. I have to say this has to be my nr.1 game, that I wish devs would return to, to actually finish it. No doubt it had the best cities at the time, far surpasing any GTA game (with more dynamic lighting, these cities were much closer to Liberty City from GTA V than to 6th gen GTA games, especialy Istambul - even the building textures on ps2 were really great), the best driving model in it's genre (still amazing), incredible car details, and damages, great interiors, and ps2 port plays really good for the most part. Pop-in is almost non existent on ps2, especialy in comaprison to San Andreas! I think they also had proper idea for on foot controls, but it's clearly one of the most unfinished aspects, with animations that are at best placeholders ( Scarface The World is Yours had shown how important free aim is). I really believe if the team had more time, we would get absolute classic, and Driver today would be huge - probably not as ambitious as devs planned, but only slightly toned down. On the other hand, i really like this unfinished game, because of all the things they managed to make (ps2 by far my favourite version), and for me, unlike cyberpunk, it's easy here to just have fun. Again, amazing video!!! p.s. i really love almost all gta games, i just meant that objectively in some regards Driv3r was far superior to any cometition at the time
One thing I vividly remember when playing Driv3r, was that each city had a few hidden, unique vehicles. That and aggroing the police and doing a city chase, from one point of the map to the other, seeing how long I could survive.
To this day my dad plays this game daily on the ps2 I bought him and it’s so nostalgic and soothing and helps with my anxiety for to me hear the soundtrack and car engines because it would a key part of my childhood ❤ driver will forever be a great game and the driving physics,soundtracks,graphics,maps,vehicles all were perfect
I love that you can always find a positive in anything. When I tried the game myself like a decade ago I actually hated it. Of course there's also Driver SF that I played, as well as Driver 1 that I played as a kid so that doesn't help.
33:18 This part speaks to something I've always felt racing and open-world games should always strive for: making it simply fun to drive around and explore the game world. If a game doesn't accomplish that, than why bother?
GTA IV was the last open world AA game with fun handling, and babies who couldn't drive without twanging the stick complained so loudly that no big open world game had fun handling again (save for the last entry in driver series). BeamNG is the one of very few games that can do what driv3r and GTA IV did today.
this is one of those weird games that I keep coming back to, either in my mind or on my pc, even though I know that it is far from masterpiece. I think there are these games that have like a big story and ambition behind them and some how it can be felt within the game of what could have been... I guess one of the main things that I liked is the physics, but also the cities, its so cool that they choose such unique locations, I think that till this day the area where GTA hasn't surpassed this game is the unique locations, but for everything else, well I think maybe some people from Rockstar have played the game and toke some notes and then GTAIV came out which is everything that this game aimed to be, though ofcourse at a whole different time.
Driver 3 was a Huge comeback from Driver 2 era since PS1. And since D2 is my favourite game at that specific age, when I was a kid, D3 brought back nostalgia with soo much more. Graphics, super wide maps, badass storie, great cast ect ect. So overall I loved it too!
I loved Driver, liked Driver 2, but remember being disappointed with this one. I bought it, beat it once, and never played it again. But I do remember it was beautiful and had its moments of greatness.
Driv3r was probably the first game that introduced me to the idea of open world sandbox games, I spent many hours exploring each of the three maps - finding secrets, hidden interiors and bugs throughout the game Despite its flaws, I have to appreciate Driv3r for making me more naturally intuitive and curious to explore open world / sandbox games
Really nice video and me too really enjoyed this game for all the positives you brought out. I think it was well said that it isn't that hard to look past the shortcomings to enjoy it for what it is, or even think what it could have been. Driver 3 would be amazing material for a remake I imagine. If the game had looked and played as good well as the cutscenes then it would already have been an amazing package. Also I watched Heat for the first time a month ago and it is directly to the list of best films I've ever seen. It was funny to recognize how Driver had taken the opening scene from there and how the Calita - Gator phonecall was almost identical to the one McCauly had in the film.
This game was the first open world driving game I played as a kid and it blew me away at the time! I remember passing the controller every time we died. Good times.
when I bought this game back when I was a little kid used to grab a semi truck and just smash all the incoming traffic for hours at a time taking it the beautiful detail that wouldn't be seen again until something like grand theft auto 4
i was so excited for months before this game came out, i would go on the official site and look at pictures constantly. i was aware of the issues, but they didn't bother me at the time, in fact my brother and i really quite enjoyed some of the glitches, which made for some hilarious edited videos. and that was one of the most mind blowing aspects of the game to us at the time, was the video editor.
I've had the theme song for Driv3r stuck in my head since I rented this game in 2004. Found out about 2 years ago that it's by an artist I knew, but had no idea they made that song. Fairly sure that Iggy Pop even voices the intro for the full release of the song. Teddybears - Move Over.
What a great video. When this game came out I was 9 and honestly it was so much fun to me as I only used to goof around with cheats! I was never really aware of the bigger picture and what was at stake!
I was born in 92’ and I grew up playing driver games with my family I had a dad to help me understand the Driver 1 Tutorial, the DUEL DISC Driver 2 where you get out of the car? I spent hours in that game just driving and making my own fun in the “take a ride” free roam Driver 3 wasn’t competing with GTA in my mind; we were going to buy 3, and vice city, and San Andreas You didn’t buy Driver to play those games And when you wanted Driver, you don’t buy those games. driver fit that high quality driving that those games just didn’t quite have So you really have to compare Driv3r to 1 and 2, and when you did that, you can understand why you would have bought this game I spent so much time as a kid playing this game, and just goofing around, But above all else Driving. You can’t do that as a kid. Driv3r does is such a meaningful way
It's nice to hear the other side of the coin with Driver 3. So much of RUclips regurgitates the same opinion, while your video actually has me wanting to give the game a try.
I can’t explain how or why but this game captures a very very quiet dull uninterrupted time in my young life as a kid it’s eerie idk where the fans went idk who bought it for me but the only thought in my head is a sunny but grey tint day
I love this game so much. The soundtrack is in my top 10 of all time, The story is fantastic vastly underrated, The sound design is next level. If it had more time to work out all the bugs it had it wouldn't be seen as the flop it seems to get received as today. I was fortunate to have a copy that was bug free.
I LOVED the driver series growing up. Do driver parallel lines next! Also; how did you get all this hi res gameplay? The ps2 rom for driv3r is unplayable sadly, and I got a janky pc version that is also very hard to play. I’m bout to get a ps2 disc off eBay so I can play this again
I also spent a lot of time making 'movies' in this game. I would play the survival type game mode where police were super agro and you simply had to survive the chase for as long as possible. I really enjoyed making funny set piece short films as a kid playing this. It was a massive mess of a game but super fun never-the-less. I feel the success of the first Driver games, the greed of the publishers following the commercial successes of the GTA franchise, and the convoluted development cause the subsequent games to lose their way despite being decent games.
Funny how he mentions the driving is better here than on any other open world game and mentions watchdogs specifically when Ubisoft purchased reflections and it was this team exactly who made the driving portions of the Watchdog games.
I remember watching Transporter 1 and 2 back in the day, and playing Driver 3 was a really similar experience, free roaming has never been as fun as in this game. Or so I remember it in my childhood memories.
I spent 100s of hours playing this game My bro said the story sucked so I never played it lol I played free mode causing mayhem with semis and also my favorite thing to do was blast some metal and put the Istanbul cheatcode in that makes car physics go haywire . I also loved making movies there is the hideout in Istanbul with the skull on the wall i use to try and make falling down style chainsaw massacre esque movies where a dude snapped and drives a semi around town lol
For me this is a great example of the crucial importance of the priorities in the work and creative process. Atari could spend more money on the game itself, not this huge and pretentious marketing campaign, driv3rgate reviews and too many hollywood actors. Reflections just wasn't lucky enough with their publisher.
Never once realised as a child that this game could actually be bad 😂. But despite now realising as much, it's still one of my all time favourites. And fair play for mentioning VortexStory - brilliant channel! Now do Parallel Lines 😂
Never played this game, but from the comments I get the sense many people feel about Driv3r as I do about True Crime NY: it's nice, it could have been a true videogame landmark if they were given enough time to perfect it
I bought this on release and loved it. I thought it was one of the best games of the time. I remember then getting my magazine subscriptions through the door and it was getting panned. For me, Driv3r is the game with the highest delta between how much I thought it was good compared to what other people thought.
Know I'm late but even the beginning mission when you have to follow the police and do your first shootout then do a chase, you can actually skip the shootout and just chase down the guy and he will go through a ramp.
The Driver series was excellent (had the first 2 on Ps1), I didn't play Driver 3, but want to now, even though it was very clunky😅, Driver San Francisco was excellent though
As a kid back when this came out I wasn’t allowed to play Grand Theft Auto but I rented this and had such a good time with it it was a good substitute for GTA. Nowhere near as good as GTA though
I guess you really have to be around when the Driver series was big it was somewhat of a killer app for the PS1 and I even completed Driver 2 on GBA, also remember GTA before III was not so good with a dedicated fart and burp buttons, and I remember all the marketing hype of Drivethreer, and then it vanished, and we all played San Andreas. Sadly this game is too broken an unlike current game there are no support for download patches and easily modable so were stuck with the same game from 2004 and even though it is aesthetically pleasing but sadly I lack time and patience to get into it no matter how pretty it can be and how satisfying its driving mechanics are. Now I'm going to get a physical copy of Cyberpunk 2077 for the PS4 that my local gamestore is trying to get rid off stock for $12 a piece.
Driv3r is a chocolate fudge cake that came out of the oven 10 minutes early. It still tastes nice, but you know with just a bit more time it was going to be something amazing.
I was so confused when I got internet and found how poorly received Driver 3 was. I loved the game and everyone that I knew that played it said they loved it too. Might've just been us being kids and not seeing the flaws but it's like the internet hated it while me and my friends loved it. It was such a weird thing for me to see
Just goes to show you how the media can influence a mindset. This game isn’t good but I still enjoy it and unironically so. Something about it has a charm I can’t deny
I don't even think the shooting was that terrible... i mean, have you tried shooting someone in a car in GTA? They all sucked back then. Also you could swim and enter buildings without loading screens (GTA didn't have those until GTA IV) and see bullet holes in vehicles. Of course it wasn't a perfect game, but if this was "bad", then there are no good games, really. But thats just my opinion.
@@SuperGeronimo999 You are crazy. The shooting in GTA III-SA is better simply because the controls actually work. The controls of Tanner in Driv3r are so horrible that it makes playing the game a chore. I remember not playing it more than 3 hours as I happened to play it after having played Scarface. That alone made me not want to keep playing.
Nah, it's that we didn't make up enough of the market. I loved it too, but most of my friends weren't allowed to play it. It's kind of like all the really good kids shows of our day that got like 2 seasons, because parents didn't like them.
I remember the physics and the in-game director being so good in this game. You could stage such exciting and kinetic car chases and then make little movies out of it
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time. Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them). Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI). Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy. Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI). Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad). Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning! Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures. Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement. It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them. (19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).. Salam (Peace)
Yeah driver has this feature embedded since driver one I use to make driving like chasing scenes on driver 2 …😂😂 the best we’re stealing buses and driving them around with the cops chasing you and filming the chase like it was a high speed chase lol😂
I can't think of a channel I'd like to hear talk about this game more than you. Such a polarizing game deserves a nuanced look, especially one as ambitious as Driver 3. A real shame it didn't get to be the game Reflections wanted it to be, but it does have a charm to it in spite of the very serious issues it has. Games like this are easy to dogpile on and dismiss entirely as "one of the worst games ever" but its genuinely enjoyable to see people discussing and appreciating the things that *did* go right.
Sort of reminded me of Shadow the hedgehog 2005, even with it's rough and sort of confusing gameplay with the unintentional funny edgey things I still found the edginess and story has a charm to it, especially the OST
@@BlueminNight Sonic games always have the edge on soundtracks. Even the shitshow 2006 had stellar soundtrack. It's not indicative of the game quality itself.
I used to play Driver 1 and 2 when I was young, probably 7 or 8. I remember getting Driv3r for Christmas 2004. I never saw any of the hype, promo for the game, or surrounding drama about it being unfinished, so I loved it. "Another Driver game? hell yeah!" The game used to be way to hard for me so I used to just replay the first 5 or so missions or just free roam. This game will always have a special place in my heart.
Same. Put thousands of hours on the first two as a kid, downloaded Driv3r a decade later after I could emulate it. Loved every minute even after I found out what everybody else had to say about it
Yeah, I swear me and my gamer friend played San Francisco for a full summer, just drifting around and testing every car out, the handling in that game is mad underrated
@@NewDesignVinylGraphics The handling in D:SF (which most cAsUaL gAyMeRs hated), stands tall till this day and no other driving game comes close! Authentic old-school Hollywood stunt driving!
Driv3r really is one of those games that I’ve ended up loving and appreciating more and more as I’ve gotten older. The whole style and atmosphere of this game has always stuck with me and is something that I genuinely miss from a lot of modern sandbox games. The Getaway games are another example of games with janky ass gameplay but one hell of an atmosphere and vibe.
Yeah the getaway still remains one of the most cinematic and bland games i've played. Driv3r was different in that i wasnt good enough to beat the campaign but the freeroam was fun admittedly amazing for 2005.
@@Fractal_blip the Getaway is not bland at all, it goes for realism, and the graphics were actually TOP NOTCH for its time. The game is just missing a map, thats all.
Pretty much explains my thoughts on it as well. At the time this came out I was 9 years old, and wasn’t really into movies or music yet since it predated all the modern streaming services. And yet, I believe this game heavily influenced my music and movie tastes as well, because for all its flaws it has a badass visual style and a soundtrack that has stuck with me almost 2 decades later.
I loved Driv3r as a kid. I did have San Andreas and Vice City but i still went back to driv3r because it was so cool. I still know some hidden cars (like a VW Hippy Bus and a ford GT looking car) and also remember the Tommy Vercetti looking guys. Nostalgia hit me right into my face watching this video and i suddenly remembered so much again lol
I like how a retrospective of a game thrown under the bus with its jankiness, is still able to give a narrative and philosophical take into a Modernist perspective. Amazing take, my man. Hopefully you'd get to cover Parallel Lines next. Played it during my years from high school to college, so there was definitely a trip in itself.
i have spent a considerable amount of time of my childhood playing the first two driver games.. then one day, maybe about summer of 2005, before we had internet access at home, or any other info about the gaming scene, i have laid my eyes on this game at a shopping center. I couldnt even believe that this exists, i had to look a few times to be sure that this is truly a driver franchise game, not some knockoff. i was willing to stay at the mall to mop the floors of something if my parents couldnt afford to buy it, but luckily they did. i think i didnt even see the sunlight that summer.
Driver 2 was an incredible experience as a child before we ever got the gta 3d series. It was the original og in terms of free roam driving be able to get in and out the car I spent hours in that world in amazement. It truely doesn't get the credit it deserved and frankly gta 3 and similar games have driver 2 to thank for its influence
@@Zherosh Considering the state of Atari since, I have to think the franchise would only be even deader if they still had it. I'm struggling to think of the last time they made anything good. At least we got the truly excellent and underappreciated Driver San Francisco under Ubisoft.
Driv3r was amazing despite the criticisms over bugs and things like being rushed; the graphics, environment and soundtrack were astonishing The game was magical and gave a nice sense of immersion, it felt like being in a movie.
To me at the time I thought it was always pushing the systems limits because I never played a game like it, this was one of the games where you could really put bullet holes in cars and when you thrown rockets at them the car would go into parts.
Me and my friend played the shit out of this. Never touched the story, just drove around starting chaos in the game world and playing with the movie maker. I feel like I've lost the ability to make my own fun in games and I miss it lol.
I actually remember growing up playing this game on consoles. At the time I thought it was pretty good. Now looking back on it I realize there were a lot of problems with it but I still find it a decent time.
Same I remember playing this on my cousins PlayStation two at the time and me and my sister thought this was the best game ever looking back on it now and playing it again not too long ago and seeing the many flaws it has but still it’s not the worst thing ever but it’s not the best thing ever but it is a good ride.
you hit the nail on the head with the ambience this game creates. even as a kid i constantly replayed the miami missions despite their jankiness because they felt so cool and different. the michael mann parallels are real
I've been waiting two years for this video 😭 I think everyone who played this game when they were young has a soft spot for it. My family had both this game and GTA 3, yet this was the only game my siblings and I would get into fights trying to take turns playing. I can't deny there's some magic in there beyond just blind nostalgia. The cutscenes, the lighting, the music... I think you hit the nail on the head when you said the game, above all else, is "cool". It just has a vibe that no other game has. Even just the soundtrack is amazing, and was a gateway for me finding tons of cool music when I was younger - "Exit" by Stateless remains a particular favorite of mine, and I would use songs from the game's score in all kinds of dumb RUclips videos. It's unfortunate that it's almost impossible to talk about the game without mentioning how unfinished it is, even comically so - You take damage for jumping up stairs, for instance, which is an easy way to kill yourself in the very first mission in Tanner's house. Also, at the motel in Miami, if you park a chopper in the second to last parking spot facing the road, get off, get back on, pull forward so one wheel is on the grass, reverse, get off, and go in the motel, you'll fall through the map. I'm not sure why or how I found that out, but it shows you how broken the game is and how much I used to mess with it when I was younger. I imagine a world where Driv3r got the development time it deserved, released a year earlier without the Driv3r-gate controversy and better on-foot sections. I'd imagine we'd have more games that tried to do something different with the open-world driving format, and more games that tried to have a "style" instead of copying what GTA was doing. Either way, I still look back fondly on this game as a major influence of my taste in movies, games, and music, and I'm glad there are others out there who seem to have the same appreciation for this very rough gem of a game. It seriously is great, even if you have to really search for what makes it that way.
I used to love driving with the infinite mass cheat in Istanbul you get after killing the joke - the Timmy Vermicellis. Either taking a big bus, a fast car or just a tiny bike and plowing cars head on in the highway and coastal avenue. Also, when a bumper became detached on one side and flipped in the other direction, you could drive it into cars and lampposts - it would barely slow your car down, but would deal lots of damage to Tanner.
even though i only played Driv3r for a few months when i was younger, i loved the game and its aesthetic a lot. i still think about it constantly despite having played many games when i was growing up, that was one that always stuck with me
I hope modders are able to figure out this game. It would be cool to see the community fix up the game and show its full potential. Imagine this game, but with competent on-foot gameplay!
At one point it was tried. I don't know if the mod pack was ever released. But I remember that it never managed to get enough people to attempt an actual overhaul and full fix up.
Imagine in another universe, Driv3r being the most developed and best game of the series, breaknig the "third game" curse, and going out of its way to showing that it is a serious teeth chatterer for Rockstar Games, and the momentum continued on for Atari and Reflections. A Driv3r online being released and such. Ah man. If only I lived in that world.
As dumb kids who loved PS1 installments of Driver series, I'm quite love with this third game despite many flaws. I don't realize this game was actually rushed back in the day and have scandalous driv3rgate since I have very limited information and just enjoy this game as it is. Still have original copy of later PC release despite more buggy and worse than PS2 version.
I never owned a ps2 as a child but whenever I went over to my mates place we'd smash out Drive 3 er, or San Andreas. I was more fond of driv3r and that transformers demo that came with it. Good times. Driv3rs graphics when I was a kid looked like the most insane graphical mods on GTA 5 today... it looked stunning
That Atari Transformers game was awsome. I went and bought it after playing the demo. Driv3r was a cool game aswell, i had a strategy guide for it that explained how you could beat missions in certain ways. I loved to drive around in Nice, make it all the way to the top in the city center tiny streets and jump and crash down in the streets below. Damage models were awsome for the time. GTA IV had simular damage models but that was already next gen.
Something I find intriguing about Driv3r is the inconsistency of it's setting. The cars all look like they're based on early 80s models at the latest, with many cars from like the 70s or 60s. And the cities also mostly look like early 80s renditions. But then there's all the exceptions. The bikes which are almost exclusively based on sportsbikes from the late 90s/early 2000s. The cellphones and energy drinks, complete with product placement textures everywhere that have been squished or stretched into billboards that clearly weren't designed to feature these ads. Tanner's modern house, etc. All of that has lead to this fun game theory I've seen that Driv3r canonically takes place after Driver SF, and all these inconsistencies are just caused by it being a coma dream. Including killing Jericho at the end. Then again, what probably really happened is that this game was meant to be set in the 80s but Atari's marketing department forced Reflections to pry some of these things in there in the last second. One of the trailers has an early version of the scene at 11:40 without the phone so that shows that at least the Nokia product placement was a later decision.
It's not so much as an inconsistency, but rather a anachronism stew. Tim Burton's Gotham City in Batman '89 looked like 1940's NYC, but featured different styles of clothing, cars, music, etc.
@@comyxcon4gaming860 Which even then in this case, I can excuse a lot of the cars as just older cars, or in the case of a lot of the European cars just them being a European car that lasted a decade or 2 longer than they really should've, the big problem comes in with the American Police car, if they just made it like a 90s Ford Crown Vic, and then boom, this would've really be a problem
I always rationalised it as they knew they had a turd on their hands, but the hype was big enough that they could get some product placement in there for extra money. Driver 2 had subtle product placement for the Diesel clothing / watch brand too, I recall.
Driver has always been really inconsistent with the setting. Driver 1 is very clearly set in the 1970’s, Driver 2 feels more 70’s once again rather than anything else, but what’s even more weird is that officially Driver SF supposedly takes place 6 months after 3. The timeline is so strange.
I LOVE DRIV3R, soo I never knew the drama and stuff that surrounded the game. it was buggy but not unplayable at all some things were a tad frustrating. but all the bugs were more funny ha ha moments for me. like cops getting stuck in the skybox or them going flying over a hill or dirt mound and freaking out. you could drift semitruck trailers and the truck as well. i had so much fun braking the game and having a blast with the bugs I forgot everything that upset a lot of folks back then. story was okay enough to keep playing but they have always been 70s car chase corny. id say its so bad its Good
I used to do Nice Survival mode and I'd jump over that hill close to where the spawn is. If you manage to jump across it, you'll just go through the floor, barrel-rolling until your car explodes lmao. Good times!
19:40 I've been to both Miami and Nice, I can confirm that the design of the cities in this game is surprisingly accurate. I really wish the on-foot mechanics had been better and the game had been given a bit more time, it's a shame that it and the whole Driver series ended up being overlooked in the end as a result of Driv3r's poor reception.
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Hello everyone thank you for indulging in my excuse to talk about Michael Mann films - here's a playlist of my other DRIVER content: ruclips.net/p/PL643B5filmfF22BLaR-pK6XXbTR5UU-pw
no thank YOU for talking about Mann one of the very greatests of all times
If you ever wanted to do an entire video on Michael Mann, I'd watch it in a heartbeat. Your insights into his style and your description of his connections to modernism here are absolutely dead on.
@@Nicodemus1 I was just thinking about that, his input of modernism alone makes me wish for a side channel about art in general
Good vimvdeo
Michael Mann is the greatest goat of all time.
Maybe Kubrick depending on the metric.
The first level is all I did when I was a kid, didn't know what the game was about. All I knew was I had a house, a car, and a world to explore
Bro same
Exactly this
Only reason I got it when I was kid was cuz it looked like GTA 😂
Yeah same. Those were the days!
same lol!
For the escaping the docks mission, a massive truck actually smashed my car over the side, into the sea. I dived out of my car and swam to shore! Didn't need to follow a linear path or anything, just react to the situation as best I could, and it actually worked.
Some missions in GTA 3 and Vice City could be like that. But San Andreas onwards were on rails. I've seen vids of GTA5, where you have to kill a guy after storming his house, but if you snipe him from a distance, you fail.
@@worldcomicsreview354 Yep, that's my biggest issue with later GTA games, you are right on that my friend.
E.g. In GTA 4 you get taught how to shoot out tyres, but if try and actually do it during a scripted chase mission it won't work, you have to just follow the script to a cutscene. So boring.
Amazing. I didn't want to deal with all those guards so I just shot down the first wave of enemies, jumped into the ocean, swam until I was almost dead and completed the mission.
@@worldcomicsreview354 In that mission you are not supposed to kill the guy. The reason you fail if you snipe him is because you have to KIDNAP him.
It's kinda remarkable how much video games have been impacted by Mann's movies. GTA hitting it big while taking massive inspiration from Mann has led the many GTA clones to just feel like even more diluted versions of Mann's works. Mann's main characters being masters in their fields is really similar to how many game protagonists work. Plus there's stuff like Kane and Lynch 2 that feels like if Miami Vice took an adrenaline shot. I dunno what I'm saying I just love talking about Mann lol
Don’t forget Max Payne 3! Big Michael Mann energy in that game (Collateral, specifically).
You’re absolutely right though. The entirety of Kane and Lynch 2 reminds me of the meth tweaking skinhead shootout scenes from the 2006 version of Mann’s Miami Vice.
Now I wish Thief was a videogame adaption of the Michael Mann movie with James Caan.
I gotta play these games. Huge micheal mann fan here. Lol
Max Payne 3 and Kane & Lynch 2 has so many similarities too:
-Both are the sequels that weren't received well on launch
-Both take place on locations where the protagonists feel alienated/are not used to it
-Protagonists from both games lost their wives at some point
-The stories of both games feature female characters that aren't seen much, but are important to the plot
-Both antagonists are politicians
There is probably more too
I'm from Istanbul. This game was a big thing for me back in the day. Although all those hates i spent many hours discovering all landmarks in Istanbul. Thanks Reflections for reflecting Istanbul's atmosphere in a such mystic way. ☺
Was their Istanbul accurate to you?
@@ililili6350 Some famous structures, some landmarks were accurate. Definitely was not perfect. But ancient feeling of the city was there…
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace)
As a Icelander. Turkey sounds hot. So hot that it melts this Viking.
@@ililili6350 as an another istanbul resident, i was surprised how right the city felt, i imagine a newyorker might have felt the same for gta3s lc if that comparasion can help. Definetely not a recreation but a well done portrayal.
I'd love to see you cover Driver: Parallel Lines as well! Driv3r is the "black sheep" of this franchise, but Parallel Lines seems to have been almost entirely forgotten. Which is a shame because, while it may not have been as bold as its predecessor, I still think it's worthy of having a light shed on it for the things it does remarkably well and the fairly unique qualities it brings to the table in a genre like this (namely the timeskip from 1976 to 2006, which changes the entire aesthetic of the map and gives you a slew of new vehicles to play with -- that simply blew my mind when I was a kid, and I think it's a noteworthy feature in place of having multiple different maps like the previous games.)
One thing I did like about paralell lines as well was that New York felt like a CITY, with loads of traffic that takes the best part of an hour to drive across. As a cruising simulator, it's hard to beat, Though the incredible inability of the traffic AI to navigate left or right turns on junctions caused massive traffic jams and kind of spoiled the immersion, as did the disconnect between the appearance and performance of the cars. A 50's pickup and a late-70s GM B-body early should not be able to outdrag 1960's luxury coupes
Honestly, I just really didn't enjoy Parallel Lines so much. For me personally it felt like the story was so cut short it hurt the game, but I can guess why people enjoy it still. What little it does, it does pretty well.
Driver: Parallel Lines is the worst $10 I’ve spent in video gaming.
I absolutely loved parallel lines, loved the 70s setting and the story
@@nathanbrisebois8756 The theme and setting were highlights of the game for sure.
I love this video on so many levels. Finding the beauty (both aesthetic and mechanical) in a janky, critically panned game, going deep on Mann films/modernism... all of it absolutely rules. Excellent work all round.
I originally typed out something long about the game as a whole, but I'll sum it up to this;
Driv3r was awesome when it was new. Crashing the cars was just as fun as it was to crash them, all of my friends loved this game. It would be amazing to see a new, modern Driver series picked up by someone and made because we all know we need some company to give Rockstar's lazy asses some competition to force something new and not relying on dumb Oppressors (etc.) and making crazy money off microtransactions. With that said, another revival I am looking forward towards is TDU.
I’m all for quality over quantity, atleast rockstars games are always quality
Son.... You got your wish!
Test Drive Solar Crown is coming out!
Interesting how Reflections and Rockstar Games were both heavily inspired by Michael Mann. But I don't blame them, the guy is an artist.
hands down one of my favorite games in the PS2 era. I don't even care about the bugs or glitches - it's been the same since Driver 1 flinging your car over the hills of San Francisco. nothing will ever top spawning in the apartment in Miami, walking out to the garage, getting in Tanner's car and exploring
I remember buying this on day one of release.
It was so close to greatness, I played it a lot & did eventually finish it.
The Driver games were always a little rough & ready but very soulful, just good fun to drive around getting the cars to do flips & Hollywood style antics.
Love the video! And for years i had the same theory - Driv3r was aiming really high, and it achived suprisingly much, considering how unfinished it was in the end. I have to say this has to be my nr.1 game, that I wish devs would return to, to actually finish it.
No doubt it had the best cities at the time, far surpasing any GTA game (with more dynamic lighting, these cities were much closer to Liberty City from GTA V than to 6th gen GTA games, especialy Istambul - even the building textures on ps2 were really great), the best driving model in it's genre (still amazing), incredible car details, and damages, great interiors, and ps2 port plays really good for the most part. Pop-in is almost non existent on ps2, especialy in comaprison to San Andreas!
I think they also had proper idea for on foot controls, but it's clearly one of the most unfinished aspects, with animations that are at best placeholders ( Scarface The World is Yours had shown how important free aim is).
I really believe if the team had more time, we would get absolute classic, and Driver today would be huge - probably not as ambitious as devs planned, but only slightly toned down.
On the other hand, i really like this unfinished game, because of all the things they managed to make (ps2 by far my favourite version), and for me, unlike cyberpunk, it's easy here to just have fun.
Again, amazing video!!!
p.s. i really love almost all gta games, i just meant that objectively in some regards Driv3r was far superior to any cometition at the time
Mate this was such an incredible analysis. Thanks!!
I had to stop the video just to drop a like and subscribe, never being so thrilled by a commentary this much. You deserve more subs, amazing content!
One thing I vividly remember when playing Driv3r, was that each city had a few hidden, unique vehicles.
That and aggroing the police and doing a city chase, from one point of the map to the other,
seeing how long I could survive.
To this day my dad plays this game daily on the ps2 I bought him and it’s so nostalgic and soothing and helps with my anxiety for to me hear the soundtrack and car engines because it would a key part of my childhood ❤ driver will forever be a great game and the driving physics,soundtracks,graphics,maps,vehicles all were perfect
I love that you can always find a positive in anything. When I tried the game myself like a decade ago I actually hated it. Of course there's also Driver SF that I played, as well as Driver 1 that I played as a kid so that doesn't help.
33:18 This part speaks to something I've always felt racing and open-world games should always strive for: making it simply fun to drive around and explore the game world. If a game doesn't accomplish that, than why bother?
GTA IV was the last open world AA game with fun handling, and babies who couldn't drive without twanging the stick complained so loudly that no big open world game had fun handling again (save for the last entry in driver series). BeamNG is the one of very few games that can do what driv3r and GTA IV did today.
damn this was an amazing review, it convinced me to buy the game, you just earned a new sub and fan.
this is one of those weird games that I keep coming back to, either in my mind or on my pc, even though I know that it is far from masterpiece. I think there are these games that have like a big story and ambition behind them and some how it can be felt within the game of what could have been... I guess one of the main things that I liked is the physics, but also the cities, its so cool that they choose such unique locations, I think that till this day the area where GTA hasn't surpassed this game is the unique locations, but for everything else, well I think maybe some people from Rockstar have played the game and toke some notes and then GTAIV came out which is everything that this game aimed to be, though ofcourse at a whole different time.
Driver 3 was a Huge comeback from Driver 2 era since PS1. And since D2 is my favourite game at that specific age, when I was a kid, D3 brought back nostalgia with soo much more. Graphics, super wide maps, badass storie, great cast ect ect. So overall I loved it too!
I loved Driver, liked Driver 2, but remember being disappointed with this one. I bought it, beat it once, and never played it again. But I do remember it was beautiful and had its moments of greatness.
Driv3r was probably the first game that introduced me to the idea of open world sandbox games, I spent many hours exploring each of the three maps - finding secrets, hidden interiors and bugs throughout the game
Despite its flaws, I have to appreciate Driv3r for making me more naturally intuitive and curious to explore open world / sandbox games
My favorite game and soundtrack, and I had them both.
I still love this game 💙👍💯
About goddamn time, man. I've waited over two long years for this one!
Really nice video and me too really enjoyed this game for all the positives you brought out. I think it was well said that it isn't that hard to look past the shortcomings to enjoy it for what it is, or even think what it could have been. Driver 3 would be amazing material for a remake I imagine. If the game had looked and played as good well as the cutscenes then it would already have been an amazing package.
Also I watched Heat for the first time a month ago and it is directly to the list of best films I've ever seen. It was funny to recognize how Driver had taken the opening scene from there and how the Calita - Gator phonecall was almost identical to the one McCauly had in the film.
I would love a remaster of Driv3r where it was finished, you can see how good it could of been
It’s so amazing that this was 20 years ago and they’re still being interviewed about this game 😮😅😊
This game was the first open world driving game I played as a kid and it blew me away at the time! I remember passing the controller every time we died. Good times.
when I bought this game back when I was a little kid used to grab a semi truck and just smash all the incoming traffic for hours at a time taking it the beautiful detail that wouldn't be seen again until something like grand theft auto 4
i was so excited for months before this game came out, i would go on the official site and look at pictures constantly. i was aware of the issues, but they didn't bother me at the time, in fact my brother and i really quite enjoyed some of the glitches, which made for some hilarious edited videos.
and that was one of the most mind blowing aspects of the game to us at the time, was the video editor.
I've had the theme song for Driv3r stuck in my head since I rented this game in 2004. Found out about 2 years ago that it's by an artist I knew, but had no idea they made that song. Fairly sure that Iggy Pop even voices the intro for the full release of the song. Teddybears - Move Over.
The BEST video of driver, im need remastered driver collection for xbox
The early to mid 2000s were a great time to be a kid. I remember when my dad took me to blockbuster to get this when it came out
What a great video. When this game came out I was 9 and honestly it was so much fun to me as I only used to goof around with cheats! I was never really aware of the bigger picture and what was at stake!
This was my gta san andreas growing up, I explored every bit of that game and knew where everything was
I was born in 92’ and I grew up playing driver games with my family
I had a dad to help me understand the Driver 1 Tutorial, the DUEL DISC Driver 2 where you get out of the car? I spent hours in that game just driving and making my own fun in the “take a ride” free roam
Driver 3 wasn’t competing with GTA in my mind; we were going to buy 3, and vice city, and San Andreas
You didn’t buy Driver to play those games
And when you wanted Driver, you don’t buy those games.
driver fit that high quality driving that those games just didn’t quite have
So you really have to compare Driv3r to 1 and 2, and when you did that, you can understand why you would have bought this game
I spent so much time as a kid playing this game, and just goofing around,
But above all else Driving.
You can’t do that as a kid. Driv3r does is such a meaningful way
I loved driving the 18 wheeler off the cliff, in slow motion... 😄
I remember playing this... miss it. Used to call it Driver 3 R because of the name 🤣
It's nice to hear the other side of the coin with Driver 3. So much of RUclips regurgitates the same opinion, while your video actually has me wanting to give the game a try.
The hidden character poking fun of GTA Vice City’s protagonist in driv3r is hilarious. Timmy Vermicelli! 😂
I can’t explain how or why but this game captures a very very quiet dull uninterrupted time in my young life as a kid it’s eerie idk where the fans went idk who bought it for me but the only thought in my head is a sunny but grey tint day
I love this game so much. The soundtrack is in my top 10 of all time, The story is fantastic vastly underrated, The sound design is next level. If it had more time to work out all the bugs it had it wouldn't be seen as the flop it seems to get received as today. I was fortunate to have a copy that was bug free.
I LOVED the driver series growing up. Do driver parallel lines next! Also; how did you get all this hi res gameplay? The ps2 rom for driv3r is unplayable sadly, and I got a janky pc version that is also very hard to play. I’m bout to get a ps2 disc off eBay so I can play this again
I also spent a lot of time making 'movies' in this game. I would play the survival type game mode where police were super agro and you simply had to survive the chase for as long as possible. I really enjoyed making funny set piece short films as a kid playing this. It was a massive mess of a game but super fun never-the-less. I feel the success of the first Driver games, the greed of the publishers following the commercial successes of the GTA franchise, and the convoluted development cause the subsequent games to lose their way despite being decent games.
its maybe the first violent game i play at my childhood, i remember how the missions was HARD as f
I think another game that nails this modern 00s aesthetic as well is Test Drive Unlimited
Funny how he mentions the driving is better here than on any other open world game and mentions watchdogs specifically when Ubisoft purchased reflections and it was this team exactly who made the driving portions of the Watchdog games.
I remember watching Transporter 1 and 2 back in the day, and playing Driver 3 was a really similar experience, free roaming has never been as fun as in this game.
Or so I remember it in my childhood memories.
I spent 100s of hours playing this game
My bro said the story sucked so I never played it lol I played free mode causing mayhem with semis and also my favorite thing to do was blast some metal and put the Istanbul cheatcode in that makes car physics go haywire . I also loved making movies there is the hideout in Istanbul with the skull on the wall i use to try and make falling down style chainsaw massacre esque movies where a dude snapped and drives a semi around town lol
For me this is a great example of the crucial importance of the priorities in the work and creative process. Atari could spend more money on the game itself, not this huge and pretentious marketing campaign, driv3rgate reviews and too many hollywood actors. Reflections just wasn't lucky enough with their publisher.
Never once realised as a child that this game could actually be bad 😂. But despite now realising as much, it's still one of my all time favourites. And fair play for mentioning VortexStory - brilliant channel!
Now do Parallel Lines 😂
Driver 3 legit feels like it was trying to be GTA 4 before it was even a thing... it was revolutionary.
Michael Madsen does in fact have a very cool voice
Man I loved this game so much as a little kid
Never played this game, but from the comments I get the sense many people feel about Driv3r as I do about True Crime NY: it's nice, it could have been a true videogame landmark if they were given enough time to perfect it
Driver was mainly a car game. Walking outside felt arcade shit.
I bought this on release and loved it. I thought it was one of the best games of the time. I remember then getting my magazine subscriptions through the door and it was getting panned. For me, Driv3r is the game with the highest delta between how much I thought it was good compared to what other people thought.
Know I'm late but even the beginning mission when you have to follow the police and do your first shootout then do a chase, you can actually skip the shootout and just chase down the guy and he will go through a ramp.
The Driver series was excellent (had the first 2 on Ps1), I didn't play Driver 3, but want to now, even though it was very clunky😅, Driver San Francisco was excellent though
I love Driver 3 one of the best Driver series 😍🥰
The on-foot shooting looks like Max Payne but as a clunky budget PS2 game (and no I don't mean the PS2 ports of those games)
If im being honest this game is underrated as hell man it was fun
As a kid back when this came out I wasn’t allowed to play Grand Theft Auto but I rented this and had such a good time with it it was a good substitute for GTA. Nowhere near as good as GTA though
The Main Theme was a banger.
I guess you really have to be around when the Driver series was big it was somewhat of a killer app for the PS1 and I even completed Driver 2 on GBA, also remember GTA before III was not so good with a dedicated fart and burp buttons, and I remember all the marketing hype of Drivethreer, and then it vanished, and we all played San Andreas.
Sadly this game is too broken an unlike current game there are no support for download patches and easily modable so were stuck with the same game from 2004 and even though it is aesthetically pleasing but sadly I lack time and patience to get into it no matter how pretty it can be and how satisfying its driving mechanics are.
Now I'm going to get a physical copy of Cyberpunk 2077 for the PS4 that my local gamestore is trying to get rid off stock for $12 a piece.
if this game was remade now with all we've learned in gaming since its release, theres no doubt that this would be a hit imo.
Ah yes, good old Drivthreer.
This is a game that could do with a remaster.
Driv3r feels like that Starsky & Hutch video game I got in my cereal box.
This game was amazing I had alot of fun for hours!! I don't understand how this game and the getaway didn't make it further 😕
This was the first game I ever had on the PS2. Such great memories playing this. That soundtrack is burned into my brain 😆
Driv3r has gotta be one of my favorites honestly. Just something about it. But if it were finished it would have been a god tier game.
Driv3r is a chocolate fudge cake that came out of the oven 10 minutes early.
It still tastes nice, but you know with just a bit more time it was going to be something amazing.
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@@BlueisNotaWarmColour no hello you
this is a description that I never knew I always wanted to read
It was cool, very cool, into the mouth "slurrp smack" Noice.
A perfect way to describe 2000s Atari too. Lord what a time to be alive that was.
I was so confused when I got internet and found how poorly received Driver 3 was. I loved the game and everyone that I knew that played it said they loved it too. Might've just been us being kids and not seeing the flaws but it's like the internet hated it while me and my friends loved it. It was such a weird thing for me to see
Just goes to show you how the media can influence a mindset. This game isn’t good but I still enjoy it and unironically so. Something about it has a charm I can’t deny
I don't even think the shooting was that terrible... i mean, have you tried shooting someone in a car in GTA? They all sucked back then. Also you could swim and enter buildings without loading screens (GTA didn't have those until GTA IV) and see bullet holes in vehicles. Of course it wasn't a perfect game, but if this was "bad", then there are no good games, really. But thats just my opinion.
@@Theesvpremekai GTA Vice city had good shooting
@@SuperGeronimo999 You are crazy. The shooting in GTA III-SA is better simply because the controls actually work. The controls of Tanner in Driv3r are so horrible that it makes playing the game a chore. I remember not playing it more than 3 hours as I happened to play it after having played Scarface. That alone made me not want to keep playing.
Nah, it's that we didn't make up enough of the market. I loved it too, but most of my friends weren't allowed to play it. It's kind of like all the really good kids shows of our day that got like 2 seasons, because parents didn't like them.
I remember the physics and the in-game director being so good in this game. You could stage such exciting and kinetic car chases and then make little movies out of it
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Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
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Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
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we didnt play the same game lol
Yeah driver has this feature embedded since driver one I use to make driving like chasing scenes on driver 2 …😂😂 the best we’re stealing buses and driving them around with the cops chasing you and filming the chase like it was a high speed chase lol😂
I can't think of a channel I'd like to hear talk about this game more than you. Such a polarizing game deserves a nuanced look, especially one as ambitious as Driver 3. A real shame it didn't get to be the game Reflections wanted it to be, but it does have a charm to it in spite of the very serious issues it has.
Games like this are easy to dogpile on and dismiss entirely as "one of the worst games ever" but its genuinely enjoyable to see people discussing and appreciating the things that *did* go right.
Sort of reminded me of Shadow the hedgehog 2005, even with it's rough and sort of confusing gameplay with the unintentional funny edgey things
I still found the edginess and story has a charm to it, especially the OST
@@BlueminNight Sonic games always have the edge on soundtracks. Even the shitshow 2006 had stellar soundtrack. It's not indicative of the game quality itself.
I used to play Driver 1 and 2 when I was young, probably 7 or 8. I remember getting Driv3r for Christmas 2004. I never saw any of the hype, promo for the game, or surrounding drama about it being unfinished, so I loved it. "Another Driver game? hell yeah!" The game used to be way to hard for me so I used to just replay the first 5 or so missions or just free roam. This game will always have a special place in my heart.
omg me too brother, like omg...
Same. Put thousands of hours on the first two as a kid, downloaded Driv3r a decade later after I could emulate it. Loved every minute even after I found out what everybody else had to say about it
100%
Unpopular Opinion: _Even if _*_Driver: San Francisco_*_ became an underrated masterpiece, _*_DRIV3R_*_ will always be a certified hood classic._
Emphasis on the "hood"
Yeah, I swear me and my gamer friend played San Francisco for a full summer, just drifting around and testing every car out, the handling in that game is mad underrated
@@NewDesignVinylGraphics The handling in D:SF (which most cAsUaL gAyMeRs hated), stands tall till this day and no other driving game comes close! Authentic old-school Hollywood stunt driving!
@@MetalArrow Indeed. Jesus, even the original Driver´s handling could teach a thing or two to most games of the genre!
I played with the director mode waaaay too much lol
Driv3r really is one of those games that I’ve ended up loving and appreciating more and more as I’ve gotten older. The whole style and atmosphere of this game has always stuck with me and is something that I genuinely miss from a lot of modern sandbox games. The Getaway games are another example of games with janky ass gameplay but one hell of an atmosphere and vibe.
I think it deserves a fan remake
Yeah the getaway still remains one of the most cinematic and bland games i've played. Driv3r was different in that i wasnt good enough to beat the campaign but the freeroam was fun admittedly amazing for 2005.
@@Fractal_blip the Getaway is not bland at all, it goes for realism, and the graphics were actually TOP NOTCH for its time. The game is just missing a map, thats all.
Pretty much explains my thoughts on it as well. At the time this came out I was 9 years old, and wasn’t really into movies or music yet since it predated all the modern streaming services. And yet, I believe this game heavily influenced my music and movie tastes as well, because for all its flaws it has a badass visual style and a soundtrack that has stuck with me almost 2 decades later.
My only hate for Driver 3 is The Chase mission. What a piece of trash mission lol... Always have to skip it.
I loved Driv3r as a kid. I did have San Andreas and Vice City but i still went back to driv3r because it was so cool.
I still know some hidden cars (like a VW Hippy Bus and a ford GT looking car) and also remember the Tommy Vercetti looking guys. Nostalgia hit me right into my face watching this video and i suddenly remembered so much again lol
I like how a retrospective of a game thrown under the bus with its jankiness, is still able to give a narrative and philosophical take into a Modernist perspective.
Amazing take, my man. Hopefully you'd get to cover Parallel Lines next. Played it during my years from high school to college, so there was definitely a trip in itself.
i have spent a considerable amount of time of my childhood playing the first two driver games.. then one day, maybe about summer of 2005, before we had internet access at home, or any other info about the gaming scene, i have laid my eyes on this game at a shopping center. I couldnt even believe that this exists, i had to look a few times to be sure that this is truly a driver franchise game, not some knockoff. i was willing to stay at the mall to mop the floors of something if my parents couldnt afford to buy it, but luckily they did. i think i didnt even see the sunlight that summer.
That story warmed my heart.
Driver 2 was an incredible experience as a child before we ever got the gta 3d series. It was the original og in terms of free roam driving be able to get in and out the car I spent hours in that world in amazement. It truely doesn't get the credit it deserved and frankly gta 3 and similar games have driver 2 to thank for its influence
Such a shame that Ubisoft killed the driver series, I still hate them for that
They killed it in favor of Watch Dogs. As of now they have The Crew so a revival is unlikely.
If only Atari didn't sell the IP...
To be fair, they were almost at bankrupt xD
@@elmandarin1002 I thought that crew died years ago?
@@Zherosh Considering the state of Atari since, I have to think the franchise would only be even deader if they still had it. I'm struggling to think of the last time they made anything good. At least we got the truly excellent and underappreciated Driver San Francisco under Ubisoft.
And it's such a shame you can't buy San Francisco on pc anymore. At least parallel lines is on steam
Driv3r was amazing despite the criticisms over bugs and things like being rushed; the graphics, environment and soundtrack were astonishing
The game was magical and gave a nice sense of immersion, it felt like being in a movie.
To me at the time I thought it was always pushing the systems limits because I never played a game like it, this was one of the games where you could really put bullet holes in cars and when you thrown rockets at them the car would go into parts.
Me and my friend played the shit out of this.
Never touched the story, just drove around starting chaos in the game world and playing with the movie maker.
I feel like I've lost the ability to make my own fun in games and I miss it lol.
I actually remember growing up playing this game on consoles. At the time I thought it was pretty good. Now looking back on it I realize there were a lot of problems with it but I still find it a decent time.
I also remember playing the entire series an how nostalgic it was
Same I remember playing this on my cousins PlayStation two at the time and me and my sister thought this was the best game ever looking back on it now and playing it again not too long ago and seeing the many flaws it has but still it’s not the worst thing ever but it’s not the best thing ever but it is a good ride.
even as a 9 year old i could tell how crap the game was
you hit the nail on the head with the ambience this game creates. even as a kid i constantly replayed the miami missions despite their jankiness because they felt so cool and different. the michael mann parallels are real
Saul Meyers learned everything he knew from this game. Which is why he was the best French Foreign Legion soldier ever!
I really want to try it out at some point but I'm not sure I can tolerate that level of Eurojank.
he used to kick ass at DRIV3R
@@Calvin_Coolage Xenus gold edition is fully playable and patched, great game shittts on top of any far cry games
@@emulation2369 We all know it doesn't, cap.
I'm amazed and delighted so many people got the reference. :P
Love this game now. Its definitely overhated. Glad that I helped with making this video.
Thank you - and thank you so much for the help
I've been waiting two years for this video 😭
I think everyone who played this game when they were young has a soft spot for it. My family had both this game and GTA 3, yet this was the only game my siblings and I would get into fights trying to take turns playing. I can't deny there's some magic in there beyond just blind nostalgia. The cutscenes, the lighting, the music... I think you hit the nail on the head when you said the game, above all else, is "cool". It just has a vibe that no other game has. Even just the soundtrack is amazing, and was a gateway for me finding tons of cool music when I was younger - "Exit" by Stateless remains a particular favorite of mine, and I would use songs from the game's score in all kinds of dumb RUclips videos.
It's unfortunate that it's almost impossible to talk about the game without mentioning how unfinished it is, even comically so - You take damage for jumping up stairs, for instance, which is an easy way to kill yourself in the very first mission in Tanner's house. Also, at the motel in Miami, if you park a chopper in the second to last parking spot facing the road, get off, get back on, pull forward so one wheel is on the grass, reverse, get off, and go in the motel, you'll fall through the map. I'm not sure why or how I found that out, but it shows you how broken the game is and how much I used to mess with it when I was younger.
I imagine a world where Driv3r got the development time it deserved, released a year earlier without the Driv3r-gate controversy and better on-foot sections. I'd imagine we'd have more games that tried to do something different with the open-world driving format, and more games that tried to have a "style" instead of copying what GTA was doing. Either way, I still look back fondly on this game as a major influence of my taste in movies, games, and music, and I'm glad there are others out there who seem to have the same appreciation for this very rough gem of a game. It seriously is great, even if you have to really search for what makes it that way.
I used to love driving with the infinite mass cheat in Istanbul you get after killing the joke - the Timmy Vermicellis. Either taking a big bus, a fast car or just a tiny bike and plowing cars head on in the highway and coastal avenue.
Also, when a bumper became detached on one side and flipped in the other direction, you could drive it into cars and lampposts - it would barely slow your car down, but would deal lots of damage to Tanner.
There's still Saints Row and the Mafia games.
even though i only played Driv3r for a few months when i was younger, i loved the game and its aesthetic a lot. i still think about it constantly despite having played many games when i was growing up, that was one that always stuck with me
its still an average game
That Phantom Planet Big Brat song play as Tanner and Jones went to the club to look for Lomaz for a hit for me.
A remake of this game would be amazing.
I hope modders are able to figure out this game. It would be cool to see the community fix up the game and show its full potential.
Imagine this game, but with competent on-foot gameplay!
At one point it was tried. I don't know if the mod pack was ever released. But I remember that it never managed to get enough people to attempt an actual overhaul and full fix up.
Dude, this game came out 18 years ago. If that was going to happen, it would've happened by now.
Imagine in another universe, Driv3r being the most developed and best game of the series, breaknig the "third game" curse, and going out of its way to showing that it is a serious teeth chatterer for Rockstar Games, and the momentum continued on for Atari and Reflections. A Driv3r online being released and such.
Ah man. If only I lived in that world.
For 14 year old me, it really almost was. Then San Andreas came out.
Hard to believe in another timeline Driver is relevant and GTA is dead
@@leannasty Same with 9 or 10 year old me.
As dumb kids who loved PS1 installments of Driver series, I'm quite love with this third game despite many flaws. I don't realize this game was actually rushed back in the day and have scandalous driv3rgate since I have very limited information and just enjoy this game as it is. Still have original copy of later PC release despite more buggy and worse than PS2 version.
How did you even beat the stupid license test?
@@Clay3613 Ofc, get help from my older sibling, and it tooks few days until we finally pass. I'm mostly play take a ride mode
I never owned a ps2 as a child but whenever I went over to my mates place we'd smash out Drive 3 er, or San Andreas. I was more fond of driv3r and that transformers demo that came with it. Good times. Driv3rs graphics when I was a kid looked like the most insane graphical mods on GTA 5 today... it looked stunning
That Atari Transformers game was awsome. I went and bought it after playing the demo.
Driv3r was a cool game aswell, i had a strategy guide for it that explained how you could beat missions in certain ways. I loved to drive around in Nice, make it all the way to the top in the city center tiny streets and jump and crash down in the streets below. Damage models were awsome for the time. GTA IV had simular damage models but that was already next gen.
Something I find intriguing about Driv3r is the inconsistency of it's setting.
The cars all look like they're based on early 80s models at the latest, with many cars from like the 70s or 60s. And the cities also mostly look like early 80s renditions. But then there's all the exceptions. The bikes which are almost exclusively based on sportsbikes from the late 90s/early 2000s. The cellphones and energy drinks, complete with product placement textures everywhere that have been squished or stretched into billboards that clearly weren't designed to feature these ads. Tanner's modern house, etc.
All of that has lead to this fun game theory I've seen that Driv3r canonically takes place after Driver SF, and all these inconsistencies are just caused by it being a coma dream. Including killing Jericho at the end.
Then again, what probably really happened is that this game was meant to be set in the 80s but Atari's marketing department forced Reflections to pry some of these things in there in the last second. One of the trailers has an early version of the scene at 11:40 without the phone so that shows that at least the Nokia product placement was a later decision.
It's not so much as an inconsistency, but rather a anachronism stew. Tim Burton's Gotham City in Batman '89 looked like 1940's NYC, but featured different styles of clothing, cars, music, etc.
@@comyxcon4gaming860 Which even then in this case, I can excuse a lot of the cars as just older cars, or in the case of a lot of the European cars just them being a European car that lasted a decade or 2 longer than they really should've, the big problem comes in with the American Police car, if they just made it like a 90s Ford Crown Vic, and then boom, this would've really be a problem
I thought Driv3r focused more on a 90's setting to reflect its movie inspirations (Driver 1 70's, Driver 2 80's, Driv3r 90's)
I always rationalised it as they knew they had a turd on their hands, but the hype was big enough that they could get some product placement in there for extra money.
Driver 2 had subtle product placement for the Diesel clothing / watch brand too, I recall.
Driver has always been really inconsistent with the setting. Driver 1 is very clearly set in the 1970’s, Driver 2 feels more 70’s once again rather than anything else, but what’s even more weird is that officially Driver SF supposedly takes place 6 months after 3. The timeline is so strange.
I unironically like DRIV3R too! #ReDriver
We all do in one way or another 🙌
Im very glad to see you work with minnime sometimes that makes me happy
I LOVE DRIV3R, soo I never knew the drama and stuff that surrounded the game. it was buggy but not unplayable at all some things were a tad frustrating. but all the bugs were more funny ha ha moments for me. like cops getting stuck in the skybox or them going flying over a hill or dirt mound and freaking out. you could drift semitruck trailers and the truck as well. i had so much fun braking the game and having a blast with the bugs I forgot everything that upset a lot of folks back then. story was okay enough to keep playing but they have always been 70s car chase corny. id say its so bad its Good
I used to do Nice Survival mode and I'd jump over that hill close to where the spawn is. If you manage to jump across it, you'll just go through the floor, barrel-rolling until your car explodes lmao. Good times!
19:40 I've been to both Miami and Nice, I can confirm that the design of the cities in this game is surprisingly accurate. I really wish the on-foot mechanics had been better and the game had been given a bit more time, it's a shame that it and the whole Driver series ended up being overlooked in the end as a result of Driv3r's poor reception.
Been to Miami I am born and raised in South Florida and I play the PS2 version at 15 they did it very well it's almost accurate.