A Toxic but Easy Way to Remove Quartz Off Gold
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Public service announcement for all the blokes out there. "Yeah na mate she'll be right." Is not appropriate PPE! Grab a respirator and do it outside, not in the man cave.
worth keeping a bottle of vinegar there to neutralize any burns too.
In the words of sassy the sasquatch Whatyatalkinabeeet? ... Lol yeah nah true mate, we only get one chance hey, not worth it
Good call -- using outdoors and a respirator. Toss in eye protection.
Guys, it might be a good idea to get the nice big clear goggles on and apply a bit of plastic film across them, a few pairs in cause you either stand on them, a rock jumps out at you, or the dog runs off with them when your eating and you leave him out of the treat meet 🤭
In decades gone by I use to be the plaster's assistant and that meant no dewalt sanding tools to suck up the fine dust falling all over me. I also used chemical gloves for termite treatments part A and B's and also a commercial cleaner in TAFE Skiilshare tradie workshops, so I really think when you use this toxic liquids you keep your dog well away and cover up as much as you can. PPE, really makes a difference to your lungs and skin, as skin is the biggest organ of the human body.
Chris just a heads up, I work in construction with silica dust and chemicals like epoxy and solvents....you might need to change the type of filter you have, the one your wearing I believe is for dust, you need a filter for chemicals....volatile gases, or a Multi gas filter for a wide range of different gas threats, go to your safety store and get the right filter type champ, should be a simple change over between the 2 different types, and if you need a dust and chemical at the same time you might need to look more into the filter and the brands of mask, other brands might be more versatile for multiple things of gas and dust. Also if acid and chemicals are airborne you might risk your eyes, go a goggle or full face mask/respirator. I don't want you to get hurt...I enjoy your video too much 😁
Absolutely, this mask has a chemical filter on it. It's made for painting booths.
👍 all good then.....but be careful as the saying goes oils ain't oils...same for the filters, gets more complicated if you want to use arsenic extraction like the old timers did, I know you have an affinity with history, I think that stuff can absorb through your skin. Keep up the good work champ
@@anthonysamardzija3344 I'm never doing anything like arsenic.
For me this is literally a hobby and I'll be happy to do this once a year for the right specimens.
Good tips Anthony. I would like to add Chris that it pays to store the respirator and filters in a well sealed plastic container to prevent the filters from continuing to work when it is not required and therefore reducing the time that you get to use the filters. Clean the mask down properly and then when dry return to the container for safe storage. Clearly marked and dated so you definitely know what is in the container.
@@markfryer9880 another detail from a construction worker: if you’re going to make the effort to use a respirator you also need to trim your mug squatch action. If you don’t remove the hair you might as well just be wearing a dust mask. You need a good seal to make the filters do what they’re supposed to. Other than that, congrats on the gorgeous specimens mate! Looks like I know where you’ll be wanting to detect…although it IS quite the hoof up to the area.
Cheers! 🖖😎👍
I always used a product called Sunny Brite classic, here in the US - can be found on Amazon. It’s a water stain remover for tubs, showers and sinks. I never bothered heating it up, just put the quartz /gold into a plastic container and covered it for a few days. It worked amazingly well, and was reasonably safe to handle. Now be aware that I used this twenty some years ago, and they make 2 different formulas, the classic and sunny brite 2, which I tried and only the classic worked well, to the point that some Quartz was gone within a couple of hours. Hopefully this helps someone ! Also, nice gold !!
Keep a whole heap of double strength vinegar on hand. You can use it in excess neutralise any spills and any residual vinegar is weak enough that you can wash it with a hose to dilute it and shouldn't cause too many issues. Also with your tailings if you add hydrochloric acid (muriatic acid, also sold as brick cleaner) until the pH is about 7 it turns it essentially into salt water which you can safely dispose of.
You also have to watch out for the fumes and the hydrochloric acid it's self.
Hello Chris, toxic acrid fumes stop once the moisture from initial heating is gone,has to be done outdoors,if you stay upwind you do not need a respirator,any residual black stains on gold can be removed by sulphuric acid pickle,regards George
From finding flower gold to constantly finding nuggets and spessies your doing fantastic Chris all your hard work is really paying off to see the joy on your face and happiness radiating from you and Gadzee and Mick the show is appealing to everyone young and old you forget about your illness and dark times just for a short while watching your videos.All the best to the Vogus gang from Scotland 🏴
Hydrochloric acid is easily available at Bunnings or any pool chemical shop. Sometimes sold as pool acid
Dude, you got me nervous for a bit when you talked about everything but eye protection. Then you brought up the goggles. Ahhh, my heart can go back to beating normally now.
Can you tell I’ve become paranoid about eye protection over the years, specially around concentrated acids and bases?
Well that’s definitely one of the coolest ways I’ve seen for extracting out the gold. Love the videos keep up the good work
you are definitely the best. i have seen gold diggers on youtube that since 2015-2016 are still doing exactly the same with slight variations and repeating the same tips that everyone already knows. you are one of the few that innovate and go showing the secrets of the activity. you are really very lucky but lucky we are also lucky to see how you do your activity.
It's nice to see gold and it's natural state the crystalline structure it was nice to see that you gave the CEO a toy for all her hard work and keeping you out of trouble keeping the great work Chris
If you get a specimen with multiple bits of gold on the surface , there's an easy way to see if its one big McNugget worth dissolving or just Stampy food. Get a multimeter or continuity tester etc and test between the bits.
Hi Chris,
As long you use things for what they're supposed to be, it's kind of safe.
If you put a spoonful caustic soda flakes (or powder) in your drain - ok.
Would you fill an oil lamp with petrol? ;-)
Concentrated caustic soda is as dangerous as concentrated sulfuric acid!
If you heat it, you multiply its dangerousness.
A drop on your skin will burn a hole. A splash in your eye will blind you continuous.
If you heat it up, it can boil over and spill suddenly.
There are too much people who could underestimate the risk ("Safety glasses? My sun glasses will do it too…").
P.S.: Check out 3:40 - no gloves. ;-)
Best regards from Germany!
Awsome video mate. When I was a lad I went to a gem show and a guy was showing all sorts of specimens including gold through a microscope these tiny little samples came to life in a whole new way was totally amazing if you haven't done this before it's worth a look
Steve Miner
Nice!! Chris thanks for showing us the methods you used to free up the native gold that was trapped in quartz by dissolving the quartz in caustic soda. They are beautiful!
Wow! Second or whatever on the PPE; with chemicals like that there is NO room for error, so shaddup and wear what's recommended, even if you are outside and the wind is blowing!
Super impressive, Chris, makes me wish I had ore specimens to play with!
That is awesome!
It's like little versions of the videos where the guy pours molten metal into a drum of water full of Orbies.
Cheers for sharing this mate, I was actually battling wuth a specie I have myself, it's been in hydrochloric acid for a few days... hasn't done squat. I will try this when I get the chance.
Good Luck & Happy Swingin' mate.
Great video thanks mate. I too have a bunch of species that I would love to do this too. Will send you some pics when I get around to it. Hope your well mate. Talk soon...ish
I got the joke with your name Rick. It nearly slipped past and then I went "Hang On, what was that?"
Consider this. If you have a vessel to preserve that caustic acid in put that gold soup though a filter paper and glass funnel into beaker, then save that off. Now rinse the gold in the filter paper for the finish. Less waste and less induced into your local environment. Or any acid can be mixed with a base to produce water and a salt which is sometimes complex.
Good stuff mate it is good to know that this can make a major difference using simple but affective Safety Measures as you have shown to come up with a better way of removing the quartz from your species. I do the same when I use Ferric Acid on Damascus Steel when I make knives that is actual Damascus steel. I also use Bicarb of Soda to neutralise the Ferric acid then wash off with water. Not sure of how Bicarb of Soda will work with Caustic Soda but it maybe worth a google search for future reference mate. That came out Awesome either way and thanks for posting 😉
Only fair; that is a VERY strong base solution. Bicarb is a buffer and works on both acids and bases to some degree, but for the strong stuff you need to counteract and dilute....very, very carefully.
Oooh that was awesome and that gold is so pretty when you can see how it formed
I would love to see one where you compare the beginning weight to the end weight. I realize you can never be sure how much gold is in the quartz but I think it would be interesting to get an average.
There is no point. No way of guessing the gold total in the rock accurately at that scale.
Bloody brilliant mate!
We found quartz, alot of it but it seems like the only gold is gold dust, i dont know much about this or any process yet really, just starting out, but how do u separate the gold dust from the dirt? Its very fine… thank you
Very cool video Chris! Just want to say, dont leave the water in the wheelbarrow with this inside, just in case Fern wants to drink from it or some of the other dogs. Drop all contaminated water in the sewage. Maybe you did that but I wanted to just mention it.
It was only like 50 grams of NAOH in like 30 liters of water. Regardless he probably doesn't let his dogs drink out of a tailings dump.
That's awesome! The original form of gold is so beautiful
Don’t forget to film how you get it out of the cup!! Very interesting!!
Fantastic, never knew about using caustic soda. Which gases were you worried about
Thank you for your video. I will have to give it a try much better than any other way I seen yet. Keep them coming. Soggy bottoms Prospecting
It's also the best stuff for cleaning chainsaw chains, though you only need a relatively weak solution and warm water. Only leave them in for a few hours, if you leave them there for more than a couple of days they will start to rust.
I never knew it could do that to Quartz, guess l've got another project for the weekend.
The first time I saw this done was by minelab gold the legend whatever you do don’t add more water when it’s hot violent reactions occur looks like you did a great job those are some AUSOME pieces Chris 🤩 thanks for sharing see you on the next one 👍🏼👊🏼
Well that’s a pretty awesome method man. I’ve tried the hydrochloric acid and it takes weeks and a lot more dangerous and doesn’t even get it as clean as that. Will definitely be trying this
This is way easier!
HCl doesn't react with/dissolve quartz, all it'll do is etch way reactive minerals like sulfides and oxides etc. NaOH reacts with SiO2 to make sodium silicates which will dissolve in water. If you really wanted to you might be able to dissolve away any resiudual minerals that aren't base soluble with HCl though to give you really nice clean gold.
@@VoGusProspecting Caustic soda is drain cleaner so tipping small amounts down the drain should be ok too
I’m inspired to try mate always wondering and happy to have a go love ya spirit and the videos as always spot on
Great idea Chris and very nice result👌🏻 Another interesting and educational vid⛏🏴
Thanks 👍
*Fantastic Video* thanks mate for your help,, I'm new to this and will try it next time without throwing anything away👍..
Great video. How long do you boil the caustic soda and water?
Thanks for that, brilliant. I will be definitely be trying this, Straight after I find some quartz with gold in it.
Specimens are great but I prefer gold poured into small bars, especially clean pours and the process behind it
Oh wow and I mean WOW. I have a stack of species including some heavy good sized ones I was getting ready to smash and pour into ingots. I'm going to try this (after getting the right PPE). Thanks Chris
Awesome video, Chris. Well done buddy. Love the result.
That's way awesome! Thanks for educating.
That was just straight up exciting to watch. Too cool. Thanks for doing what you do✌️
What was the price list of all the items involved? Iv got a few bits I’d like to preserve.
My grandfather would tell me a story how he’d sing the gold off the rocks. Lol. He drank a lot. Great stories though
I've been doing Alibrite (Hydrofluoric acid), a little agitation and time. The method you used seems less time consuming and better results albeit a bit more finicky.
Alibrite works really well but ANY contact with your skin will cause the hydrofluric acid to penetrate into your bones and dissolve them while inside your body. This is like a diluted form of a stainless steel pickling paste. NASTY NASTY SH1T. Double glove, face shield, and good luck.
mdhs ultimatecleaning.com.au/shared/content/uploads/Septone-Ali-Brite-0820.pdf
Chris that was a very cool video. Those were some beautiful results.😎
Now I have something else to work on. Thanks teacher Chris.
A scratch for fern to please.
i just bbq’d the heck out of a half ton of ore from tailings of some various old timey mines mined in the 1880’s-1940 and then abandoned- i put the Vinegar in the freezer but didn’t freeze it ( does it even ? And mixed the prewash of ore with the postwash vinegar and managed not to knock it over or drink it accidentally ( or on purpose) . i just realized i have no idea what i did with that when i got home - i really need to focus more on those “ minor “ details and focus less on drinking hard cider with way too much grit upon arriving home out of a garbage sack - i don’t even remember buying any hard cider and have no idea why it was in my 19 mil heavy duty demo sack ( the kind i usually only use for …
Thanks for all your videos even this one where you’ve either been drinking hard cider or you got brain damage like i did when i tried this technique last year / oh also NEVER mix hydrogen peroxide with vinegar / it creates paracetic acid which is a slightly milder form of acetic acid ( like acetate) when c19 hit the us a 30% vinegar became widely available and some hospitals had been mixing hydrogen peroxide & 6% vinegar previously as a sporicide ( antifungal) can you see where this is going you are one up on the “ medical professionals “ in america who basically fried the hell out of the cleaning staffs lungs - how do i know this ? because i used 30% vinegar too - . i have the finest free health care in Los Angeles - an eclectic bunch of both the best and worst doctors i have ever met . I found it out after i was cleaning house and sprayed the borax on my door jamb ( there to prevent cockroaches from waltzing ( or tap dancing or superbowl shuffling ( think football but with soccer players ) into my house , causing the borax to form a crispy solid ( from its powdered state i purchased it from ) and i googled it learning of “ do not mix Hydrogen peroxide with vinegar as my top result even though i only had typed “ borax , vin..” into the search bar -/ technology is so amazing these days its almost as if the camera on the front of my phone is just always on and sort of making sure im safe - so glad for that definitely not creepy overreach of technology by a world dominating tech co !
Thank you for the information. I look forward to trying this myself when I actually find some good species. So far I have a lot of what I hope to be good or and I have yet to process it.
Chris that was one of the best videos you have done, well done buddy and since my little mate has passed a huge scratch to yours
Sorry for your loss mate, its never easy.
Cheers mate appreciate it,they are family 👍 . Give Fern a cuddle as well
Chris!!! You didn't put it on the scale man you're killing me!!!
that was probably the coolest thing you have ever done..
HCL is the answer to future chris' problem. of removing the stuck(iron glue) gold in the stainless steel vessel.
It literally unstuck itself after 24 hours and the rest of the quartz disoled
@@VoGusProspecting well thats an awesome result. kudos to you. #alchemy is pretty neat hey?
Mate that's a particulate filter, you need a Chem filter. All also beautiful job so nice to see natural shaped pay. Love the channel
Its a chemical filter
You guy just keep on spinning right round baby right round 🤣
Sweet, im gonna have to try that! I had a similar specie but smaller and it took 2 weeks in acid to dissolve the quartz.
Small bits like mine, 45 minutes, bigger bits maybe a few hours. Let it cool down before you flush with water
Some specimens are worth more uncleaned of host material.. granted, not all but some. Its worth learning a bit more about what makes a good specimen before you destroy a really good one (price wise) for gold value.
Nice and thanks for sharing I have a few specimens to try that method on too
Brilliant ,why never comes in my mind something cool like this
Been hanging for this video after your little tease the other day
Truly awesome Gold. Please stay safe and outdoor use only. Lovely
Didn't know about this technique. That's pretty cool!
nice job thank you for sharing the adventure and information 😀
Now I have some very interesting Ideas about a certain place I found...
Use a multi meter to test specimen gold to see if it is one piece.
Will this work on copper? I have a one pound native rock with calcite as the matrix, muritic acid did not work.
You can get mo flow from Reece plumbing which is hydrochloric acid
Thanks have thought about this, and what a great dog is that 🙂👏👏
Amazing. I am going to have to try that.
Great video, those speccies came out amazing
Thanks! they came out wicked hey!
@Vo-Gus Prospecting got me wondering what's inside my speccies, but I don't really wanna do that to them, might have to duck out and find some more. PS when are you coming to FNQ for a hunt?
It is always better to learn from other peoples mistakes. Some great lessons here.
I’m gonna go find gold bearing quartz and do that
I'd keep a solution of baking soda and water (heavy on the soda) to neutralize the acid. Or add baking soda to your dump / panning solution
Its a base, we have vinager for the same purpose.
You are correct sir! My bad. I'm thinking HCL. Either way have an acid to reduce a basic or a basic to reduce acid. Carry on good sir!!!!
Are those specimens worth 10-100 or more times their weight?
That was awesome brother! very cool shit!
All you videos are excellent, but this may be one of your best to-date. Educational, informative, and entertaining. Plus, you kept it moving along a a good pace. Brilliant.
Just to further pick the nit. It is 980g/kg. Not even 50%. Still strong stuff and needs to be handled with respect.
What is costic soda?
Man that is cool, turned out amazing.
All I will say is it was beautiful
Just please be careful when messing with that caustic soda and wear you're breathing apparatus While messing with it the dry form or boiling.....
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That’s a wicked result
If you want to have more fun with caustic soda - make a watery, saturated solution add aluminium and capture the gas in a balloon.
Ignite the balloon with care - it is full of hydrogen - make a fantastic fireball or a large bang! So CARE is required - I use an old school disposable camera cube flash in the bottom of the balloon and drill a small hole in the face of the 4 flash units. Trigger them at the same time.
Yehaaa - good for guy fawkes night and it leaves zero evidence behind as the explosion / fireball combusts into water.
This is strictly for the mad scientists - this can kill or permanently maim you.
Wow, that technique turned out well...AUsome❣️
Thank you! Cheers!
Ooooohhhhhh, I wanna see clean shinny closeups. Cool episode.
Don't use nitrile gloves with nitric acid. They spontaneous combustion.
Look after your eyes folks. Safety glasses not optional.
Love you so much❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ bro. God bless you.
I didn't Kmart actually have pushy salesmen. I always find it hard to find any staff they will hiding playing on their fones.
Can the acid an rock be made back into hard rock..?
Hey Chris, just thinking about this process, could you put the quartz through the fire process to soften the quartz then the chemical process to dissolve the quartz, it may get rid of the quartz quicker.
Cheers Matt
The caustic soda does it in 45 minutes. It would take longer to get the fire to temp
@@VoGusProspecting oh, ok, I'll get back into my box🤣🤣
Have a great day, cheers Matt
That's f#$Ken cool Done well Chris
Or you could try to sit in some vinegar or peroxide. If either works they immediately show a reaction
Vinager does nothing to quartz
@@VoGusProspecting just thinking out loud, love watching how happy your work makes you. Greetings from SE Tennessee. Be safe
Um...how would Chris chemically tanning his bottom, help?
🤣😜🤪🤣🤣
I just need some gold in quartz now
love your work
Excellent, different technique 👏 👌 👍 😀 😎
Hello Chris , leave it there longer, or repeat,you end up with untarnished clean yellow gold, regards George
That’s awesome. Well done mate
Thanks 👍
Lost a friend who splashed himself with HF!! Not a lot on his leg . died after months in agony
Hey bro u can but hydrochloric acid from bunnings
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