Thank you for offering this video🫶. First rider's body is hindering the horse to move freely. Second rider is moving WITH the horse (not the proverbial intercourse-movement) and therefore allowing the horse freedom and balance resulting in getting a little gait.
I love this saddle you have designed. I owned and trained a gorgeous black filly named Carley. She was very much like this horse in the film. She a wonderful smooth way of going. I had a beautiful western saddle, but found very rarely used it. We much preferred bareback riding. I found it very easy and comfortable to ride her and she moved more smoothly, from one gate to another. We were very happy to go out for hours riding. I used to wonder at first if it was wrong that would sit up higher towards withers, because it was not where my saddle sat. But we both seemed so much more comfortable, and I could balance and ride so well, moving in perfect synchronization to her movements, so I continued to do what I thought was best for us both. I so glad to see you have designed a saddle that is much more natural to the way horse and mankind are supposed move together. I believe the horse and man a actually designed by God to move together. We were meant to ride horses. They are a helpmate to human kind. Horses were such a necessity to human kind through out history. That is why horses are seen in heaven. In fact Jesus Christ rides a white horse in heaven. They are very special creatures. When we are loving and kind to a horse, they love us, want to please us, and are very loyal. I have found that when riding ones beloved horse, that you know so well, and the horse also knows you well, there becomes an amazing link that will exist between you. When riding, you become so connected, like you share one mind, and body moving together. No other animal is there such a connection. Possibly the donkey and it's rider. But then again, I believe they too were meant to be with humans as partners/helpers. I truly feel this true. I am a Christian missionary, and live and serve in a country full of horses. But sadly many are just left in feilds and not ridden. They are very lonely. The Connemara is everywhere here. What a beautiful horse. Well, I'm off the subject; but I am truly very happy a more comfortable and natural saddle has been designed. I will definitely recommend this saddle to others. Thank you!
Hi Dominika, Good question! The difference between a walk of any speed, including the running walk, and the foxtrot is the footfall pattern and timing of the footfall pattern. With a walk every foot picks up and sets down independently from the others. This means at least one foot is on the ground at all times. Walks at any speeds tend to be smoother than the straight trot or straight pace because of this. We'll discuss the trot specifically since it's very close to the foxtrot. With a straight trot the opposite front and back legs work in sync. This is a two-beat gait. The foxtrot is almost the same except the front foot hits a split second before the opposite back leg. This breaks up the footfall pattern to make it a 4-beat gait. This is much smoother because we're back to having at least one foot on the ground at all times, and therefore less concussion with each step. We have a really good video that shows the gait spectrum in regular and slow motion with simple explanations. You can watch it at the link below. I hope this helps :) ruclips.net/video/aoB6FFP7a84/видео.html
pretty horse - but she needs some contact and not just letting him flounder. You can’t get impulsion without pushing against something. It is difficult to train if you don’t know how to ride yourself. This horse needs a couple months of training while the rider takes lessons and then lessons with him. Never saw any foxtrot. Old walking horse trainers would do a walking horse flat walk (same as running walk but slower) for miles and miles, months and months until they were well settled into the walking horse glide and well muscled. Just like people when doing weight lifting..it is more difficult to go slow and correct than fast and out of form. Before treadmills etc, old thoroughbred trainers getting yearlings ready for sales like Keeneland , and Saratoga etc -had those colts hand walked for miles everyday sometimes 2-3 times a day to build long lean muscles and teach to walk up in hand to show off their conformation and develop great manners. The rest of the day they were brushed and hand rubbed until they gleamed and it also conditioned their muscles from the rubbing and massage.
Thought this was going to be a nice little training video, instead it's just "how to be a huge dick to your horse 101". Huge disappointment. Hope anyone who sees this don't listen to her until you do some research and get atleast a basic understanding of how animals learn. Anyone who claims you need to smack them hard enough to make a loud noise and then pretends that that doesn't hurt them should be a huge red warning flag. No well educated trainer would ever need to smack their horse to get them cooperate.
The bit is comfortable for the horse and a well-designed curb bit can help the horse to round up through the back, neck and poll. Important elements in performing an evenly timed 4-beat gait in good form. You might enjoy Brenda's video about bits here: ruclips.net/video/h4CCkNt9qmg/видео.html :)
Phoenix Rising Saddles--Your Gaited Horse Source (4-Beat Saddles) i dont care how well designed it is. Its a leverage bit, in my opinion the worst bit there is and it should be banned. If u need to put metal in a horse s mouth then at least go with a snaffle. Leverage bits are evil. Thats how i feel about it. Appreciate your respons tho.
Phoenix Rising Saddles--Your Gaited Horse Source (4-Beat Saddles) that's a leverage gag bit, and with the way that riders hands are no bit is going to create softness/roundness. All she's doing is creating tension and a hollowed back
It doesn't hurt them. Sheesh. Horses kick and bite each other harder than a smack. Heck, it doesn't hurt ME with the amount of 'force' done. As the video said, it's to make NOISE not to cause pain.
These people have no clue and I am the one that gets the nasty ,spoiled ,untrained horse 6 mos to a year after Turkey Burglar and Hunter here can no longer control them or have a bad accident .
J White You're dumber than dumb. If a horse can feel a fly on their skin, then they sure as hell can feel a smack. It doesn't matter if YOU can feel a smack and it doesn't hurt. The horse has more nerve ending I believe and they just have skin a little more thinner than ours. You also think it doesn't hurt the horse when they're kicked or bitten. You're so goddamn stupid. It DOES hurt them.
Lol! Sorry Dank but you seriously made me laugh out loud. For real. You lost me at the juvenile name calling on your opening. One day you'll learn how horses actually communicate with each other.. with touch and bites and kicks. Pressure in and release. Until then? Yup! Gave me a good laugh that I needed. Thank you. :)
sloppy seat, totally unbalanced, tilts forward crosses her hands ugh hands are all over the place The lady in red at least has a has a decent seat and hands, if you have a good seat and leg position you don't ever have to smack a horse but get the impulsion with your seat. This is true hillbilly if I ever saw it.
I find it pretty hillbilly of someone to insist you never have to smack one to get it’s attention. Whether you smack with a hand, whip, or heels - it is all the same. I have seen riders at the very top of horse world whether dressage, jumpers, cutting, shows etc have an occasion where a horse needs a swift boot to get their attention. A horse for the most part can decide we are little aggravating flies and just ignore us because the weight difference is 10-1. I have ridden a few horses (had horses since 60s and showed for 20+ years) - that you could ride with your seat all you want but sometimes you needed to strap a pair of spurs on a give him a firm boot or use a long dressage whip to tap his hindquarters because they were just deadheads that had been allowed to get away with doing nothing. Once you get their attention, you can work to where it takes less and less “insistence” to get what you want. The whole goal is to have a horse do what we want but look effortless. Personally, I hate a dead head horse, I hate having to push one forward mainly because I don’t have the strength nor the length of leg to do so. For me at less than 5’, I can’t wrap my legs around his sides so a,whip is an extension of my legs. Because of where my legs hit, I never used spurs much but I will carry a whip if needed but caught without one and a nasty horse, I will most certainly smack his neck or butt if needed. I try to work through and ignore small mistakes, praise the good, ignore the bad or uneducated. If you have never had a nasty horse, you are very fortunate or you haven’t worked many horses after others have messed them up. A grumpy mare in heat trying to kick everything that gets near her in the ring or on the trail comes to mind. I don’t mind her not being in the best of mood, but she can’t try to kill everything else within 10’ of her. like to leave them alone but sometimes it isn’t possible. A stallion is the same, he should be able to be ridden without displaying and trying to jump other horses. In Europe stallions are stabled and ridden together more than US and they are well behaved because someone insisted on behaving when young. They learn the difference between riding and the breeding shed.
I was never sure why the riders had to wear helmets at Brenda’s clinics and expos but not everyone did in the DVD set. The videos were made over 10 years ago and since she passed away we are no longer able to remake them. However, since there is so much helpful information in the videos we have been making them available to the public. Since so many know the importance of riding with a helmet we did not want to throw the baby out with the bathwater and prevent others from benefiting from the training information therein. Thank you for your feedback :)
Re helmets, There definitely do help prevent injury..what helmet naysayers forget is that the brain does not heal like a broken skull or arm might, In Europe, helmets are worn without a second thought, but in USA there is that silly bloke who runs down people who wear helmets [Think like a horse,]...I have actually had head ''clunks'' worse from on the ground with horses, when a TB mare I was grooming caught my jaw with her stifle as I was grooming her inner thigh with a cloth..I saw stars momentarily :) ..Helmets can most definitely help prevent serious head injury, but silly ''think like a horse'' makes out that people think helmets make them ''all round safer'' which is daft.
Perhaps listening to it with the sound on will allow you to hear the explanation of Brenda's equitation philosophy. She addresses this at length in this video as well: ruclips.net/video/LN_BPSn-IAU/видео.html
You apparently have never had well trained or behaved children, dogs or horses - sometimes you must insist they do what they don’t want to do. Think medicine or school...,most wouldn’t do if they had their way. Most would just want to hang out and do absolutely nothing if we didn’t encourage. A good trainer or parent tries to encourage and make it easier to do right than wrong but you must insist when push comes to shove, that they do what they should do. It is the role of any good coach. If not, no one would ever reach the pinnacles of success.
this is a disgraceful video u DO NOT wack a horse with anything u do not kick it either ive been riding horses since the age of 3yrs old and training them since the age of 16 i feel this is animal crulty the only thing ur teaching that horse is that if he/she doesn't do what u want it will get hurt i wonder how u would feel if some1 gave u a hard smack on ur back end everytime u did something they didn't want you to do (reported for animal abuse)
Um... you sure you've been "training them since 16"? Sometimes a crop and kicking is needed. Not like you need the beat the shit out of the horse, though. My mare is stubborn and needs a crop, but I don't wack her with it. Just a sharp report to remind her.
Many gaited horses are ridden in poor form (over-collected, ventro-flexed frame, etc) which can lead to long-term soundness issues. Asking for a nice active walk in good forms helps horses form muscle and neurological memory to help them in performing an evenly timed 4-beat gait in good form. Once your horse is conditioned and knows the expectation, this type of work becomes more subliminal and requires less work for both the horse and rider :)
Misleading title. Nothing natural here. Nothing will get accomplished with such a small area and constant down & back. The horse knows there is no point as you will be bringing him down and turning him after a few strides.
We find arena work to be very beneficial for many horses and riders. When it comes to working with any horse, "everything in moderation" is a good rule of thumb. I had a horse years ago that absolutely refused to do any arena work. We were able to work on much of exercises outside of the arena, but I found most horses we've worked with thrive with a consistent rotation of arena work. Not every exercises will work for every horse and rider. We like to provide different tools for others to add to their knowledge toolboxes to see what works best for them.
Thank you for offering this video🫶.
First rider's body is hindering the horse to move freely. Second rider is moving WITH the horse (not the proverbial intercourse-movement) and therefore allowing the horse freedom and balance resulting in getting a little gait.
I love this saddle you have designed. I owned and trained a gorgeous black filly named Carley. She was very much like this horse in the film. She a wonderful smooth way of going. I had a beautiful western saddle, but found very rarely used it. We much preferred bareback riding. I found it very easy and comfortable to ride her and she moved more smoothly, from one gate to another. We were very happy to go out for hours riding. I used to wonder at first if it was wrong that would sit up higher towards withers, because it was not where my saddle sat. But we both seemed so much more comfortable, and I could balance and ride so well, moving in perfect synchronization to her movements, so I continued to do what I thought was best for us both. I so glad to see you have designed a saddle that is much more natural to the way horse and mankind are supposed move together. I believe the horse and man a actually designed by God to move together. We were meant to ride horses. They are a helpmate to human kind. Horses were such a necessity to human kind through out history. That is why horses are seen in heaven. In fact Jesus Christ rides a white horse in heaven. They are very special creatures. When we are loving and kind to a horse, they love us, want to please us, and are very loyal. I have found that when riding ones beloved horse, that you know so well, and the horse also knows you well, there becomes an amazing link that will exist between you. When riding, you become so connected, like you share one mind, and body moving together. No other animal is there such a connection. Possibly the donkey and it's rider. But then again, I believe they too were meant to be with humans as partners/helpers. I truly feel this true. I am a Christian missionary, and live and serve in a country full of horses. But sadly many are just left in feilds and not ridden. They are very lonely. The Connemara is everywhere here. What a beautiful horse. Well, I'm off the subject; but I am truly very happy a more comfortable and natural saddle has been designed. I will definitely recommend this saddle to others. Thank you!
I don't think the proble was the horse, but seeing his owner versus the trainers riding, the owner's the one who needs some lessons...
Thanks for this. Good for the owner seeking lessons. Beautiful horse. Made my day.
A good seat is the mother of all riding...
Thank you. Trying this with our horses this week!!!! Appreciate it!!! #ARescuedHorse Puerto Rico
Better to use an experienced rider with an independent seat to teach a lesson.
Nice work!
Let me know if this horse comes up for sale.
Oh my god that bit is huge, it doesn’t matter if it’s a comfort bit, it still hurts.
''Comfort bit=Oxymoron''
Kat I agree. It looks bad alright, especially when her hands are so harsh
İs brenda imus alive?
What's the difference between really fast walk and foxtrot?
Hi Dominika,
Good question! The difference between a walk of any speed, including the running walk, and the foxtrot is the footfall pattern and timing of the footfall pattern.
With a walk every foot picks up and sets down independently from the others. This means at least one foot is on the ground at all times. Walks at any speeds tend to be smoother than the straight trot or straight pace because of this.
We'll discuss the trot specifically since it's very close to the foxtrot. With a straight trot the opposite front and back legs work in sync. This is a two-beat gait. The foxtrot is almost the same except the front foot hits a split second before the opposite back leg. This breaks up the footfall pattern to make it a 4-beat gait. This is much smoother because we're back to having at least one foot on the ground at all times, and therefore less concussion with each step.
We have a really good video that shows the gait spectrum in regular and slow motion with simple explanations. You can watch it at the link below. I hope this helps :)
ruclips.net/video/aoB6FFP7a84/видео.html
pretty horse - but she needs some contact and not just letting him flounder. You can’t get impulsion without pushing against something. It is difficult to train if you don’t know how to ride yourself. This horse needs a couple months of training while the rider takes lessons and then lessons with him. Never saw any foxtrot. Old walking horse trainers would do a walking horse flat walk (same as running walk but slower) for miles and miles, months and months until they were well settled into the walking horse glide and well muscled. Just like people when doing weight lifting..it is more difficult to go slow and correct than fast and out of form. Before treadmills etc, old thoroughbred trainers getting yearlings ready for sales like Keeneland , and Saratoga etc -had those colts hand walked for miles everyday sometimes 2-3 times a day to build long lean muscles and teach to walk up in hand to show off their conformation and develop great manners. The rest of the day they were brushed and hand rubbed until they gleamed and it also conditioned their muscles from the rubbing and massage.
cool
Thought this was going to be a nice little training video, instead it's just "how to be a huge dick to your horse 101". Huge disappointment. Hope anyone who sees this don't listen to her until you do some research and get atleast a basic understanding of how animals learn. Anyone who claims you need to smack them hard enough to make a loud noise and then pretends that that doesn't hurt them should be a huge red warning flag. No well educated trainer would ever need to smack their horse to get them cooperate.
I wouldnt call it naturally with such a huge bit..
The bit is comfortable for the horse and a well-designed curb bit can help the horse to round up through the back, neck and poll. Important elements in performing an evenly timed 4-beat gait in good form. You might enjoy Brenda's video about bits here: ruclips.net/video/h4CCkNt9qmg/видео.html :)
Phoenix Rising Saddles--Your Gaited Horse Source (4-Beat Saddles) i dont care how well designed it is. Its a leverage bit, in my opinion the worst bit there is and it should be banned. If u need to put metal in a horse s mouth then at least go with a snaffle. Leverage bits are evil. Thats how i feel about it. Appreciate your respons tho.
Al Sheepshorts that's not even remotely resembling a snaffle bit, so it's you who has no idea how it works
Phoenix Rising Saddles--Your Gaited Horse Source (4-Beat Saddles) that's a leverage gag bit, and with the way that riders hands are no bit is going to create softness/roundness. All she's doing is creating tension and a hollowed back
well let me tell you if you smack a horse on the behind it is going to hurt
It doesn't hurt them. Sheesh. Horses kick and bite each other harder than a smack. Heck, it doesn't hurt ME with the amount of 'force' done. As the video said, it's to make NOISE not to cause pain.
J White you think it doesn't hurt them because they attack each other?? Oh my god I'm so sick of this.
These people have no clue and I am the one that gets the nasty ,spoiled ,untrained horse 6 mos to a year after Turkey Burglar and Hunter here can no longer control them or have a bad accident .
J White You're dumber than dumb. If a horse can feel a fly on their skin, then they sure as hell can feel a smack. It doesn't matter if YOU can feel a smack and it doesn't hurt. The horse has more nerve ending I believe and they just have skin a little more thinner than ours. You also think it doesn't hurt the horse when they're kicked or bitten. You're so goddamn stupid. It DOES hurt them.
Lol! Sorry Dank but you seriously made me laugh out loud. For real. You lost me at the juvenile name calling on your opening. One day you'll learn how horses actually communicate with each other.. with touch and bites and kicks. Pressure in and release. Until then? Yup! Gave me a good laugh that I needed. Thank you. :)
but nice work
I would ditch those split, way too long, western reigns.
I didn't care for the way she's communicating with this horse and clearly neither does her or she.
sloppy seat, totally unbalanced, tilts forward crosses her hands ugh hands are all over the place The lady in red at least has a has a decent seat and hands, if you have a good seat and leg position you don't ever have to smack a horse but get the impulsion with your seat. This is true hillbilly if I ever saw it.
I find it pretty hillbilly of someone to insist you never have to smack one to get it’s attention. Whether you smack with a hand, whip, or heels - it is all the same. I have seen riders at the very top of horse world whether dressage, jumpers, cutting, shows etc have an occasion where a horse needs a swift boot to get their attention. A horse for the most part can decide we are little aggravating flies and just ignore us because the weight difference is 10-1. I have ridden a few horses (had horses since 60s and showed for 20+ years) - that you could ride with your seat all you want but sometimes you needed to strap a pair of spurs on a give him a firm boot or use a long dressage whip to tap his hindquarters because they were just deadheads that had been allowed to get away with doing nothing. Once you get their attention, you can work to where it takes less and less “insistence” to get what you want. The whole goal is to have a horse do what we want but look effortless. Personally, I hate a dead head horse, I hate having to push one forward mainly because I don’t have the strength nor the length of leg to do so. For me at less than 5’, I can’t wrap my legs around his sides so a,whip is an extension of my legs. Because of where my legs hit, I never used spurs much but I will carry a whip if needed but caught without one and a nasty horse, I will most certainly smack his neck or butt if needed. I try to work through and ignore small mistakes, praise the good, ignore the bad or uneducated. If you have never had a nasty horse, you are very fortunate or you haven’t worked many horses after others have messed them up. A grumpy mare in heat trying to kick everything that gets near her in the ring or on the trail comes to mind. I don’t mind her not being in the best of mood, but she can’t try to kill everything else within 10’ of her. like to leave them alone but sometimes it isn’t possible. A stallion is the same, he should be able to be ridden without displaying and trying to jump other horses. In Europe stallions are stabled and ridden together more than US and they are well behaved because someone insisted on behaving when young. They learn the difference between riding and the breeding shed.
rosebudforglory beautiful horse!
U need to wear a helmet
I was never sure why the riders had to wear helmets at Brenda’s clinics and expos but not everyone did in the DVD set. The videos were made over 10 years ago and since she passed away we are no longer able to remake them. However, since there is so much helpful information in the videos we have been making them available to the public. Since so many know the importance of riding with a helmet we did not want to throw the baby out with the bathwater and prevent others from
benefiting from the training information therein. Thank you for your feedback :)
Natalie James uuu
Re helmets, There definitely do help prevent injury..what helmet naysayers forget is that the brain does not heal like a broken skull or arm might, In Europe, helmets are worn without a second thought, but in USA there is that silly bloke who runs down people who wear helmets [Think like a horse,]...I have actually had head ''clunks'' worse from on the ground with horses, when a TB mare I was grooming caught my jaw with her stifle as I was grooming her inner thigh with a cloth..I saw stars momentarily :) ..Helmets can most definitely help prevent serious head injury, but silly ''think like a horse'' makes out that people think helmets make them ''all round safer'' which is daft.
I was watching this without sound, and was really hoping it was supposed to be an example of how NOT to ride a horse. Disgraceful, all around.
Perhaps listening to it with the sound on will allow you to hear the explanation of Brenda's equitation philosophy. She addresses this at length in this video as well: ruclips.net/video/LN_BPSn-IAU/видео.html
no. work WITH HIM. why do you want to insist??????????????
You apparently have never had well trained or behaved children, dogs or horses - sometimes you must insist they do what they don’t want to do. Think medicine or school...,most wouldn’t do if they had their way. Most would just want to hang out and do absolutely nothing if we didn’t encourage. A good trainer or parent tries to encourage and make it easier to do right than wrong but you must insist when push comes to shove, that they do what they should do. It is the role of any good coach. If not, no one would ever reach the pinnacles of success.
this is a disgraceful video u DO NOT wack a horse with anything u do not kick it either ive been riding horses since the age of 3yrs old and training them since the age of 16 i feel this is animal crulty the only thing ur teaching that horse is that if he/she doesn't do what u want it will get hurt i wonder how u would feel if some1 gave u a hard smack on ur back end everytime u did something they didn't want you to do (reported for animal abuse)
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Um... you sure you've been "training them since 16"? Sometimes a crop and kicking is needed. Not like you need the beat the shit out of the horse, though. My mare is stubborn and needs a crop, but I don't wack her with it. Just a sharp report to remind her.
who cares??!! Can't you just ride him and be his friend? bs
Many gaited horses are ridden in poor form (over-collected, ventro-flexed frame, etc) which can lead to long-term soundness issues. Asking for a nice active walk in good forms helps horses form muscle and neurological memory to help them in performing an evenly timed 4-beat gait in good form. Once your horse is conditioned and knows the expectation, this type of work becomes more subliminal and requires less work for both the horse and rider :)
Misleading title. Nothing natural here. Nothing will get accomplished with such a small area and constant down & back. The horse knows there is no point as you will be bringing him down and turning him after a few strides.
We find arena work to be very beneficial for many horses and riders. When it comes to working with any horse, "everything in moderation" is a good rule of thumb. I had a horse years ago that absolutely refused to do any arena work. We were able to work on much of exercises outside of the arena, but I found most horses we've worked with thrive with a consistent rotation of arena work. Not every exercises will work for every horse and rider. We like to provide different tools for others to add to their knowledge toolboxes to see what works best for them.