This XDEFIANT change just made everything harder
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imagine being the guy that has your favorite gun at level 99 yesterday and wanting to finish it out today
Yup😂 pain
My mp7 was 89 but I thought surely I’ll get some other guns to 50 then get it to 100. Biggest mistake
Instant Uninstall.
That happened to me. Literally THE GAME I got level 100 on my AK the change went through and I didnt receive gold. Its just a big fuck you to anyone that grinded it out before
this happened to me :(
How does a ~15% XP buff to weapons, justify a 100% increase for the mastery camo???
It doesn’t they just want higher playtime
@@emma6648I understand, but makes me wanna not level up my other guns
They know their game is dying that's why pig developers
@@williamdotson1548lmao same. It makes me want to stop playing cause there’s no other progression.
@@mattmyers6579 I feel the exact same. I haven’t even started snipers and i’m not doing 199 levels for gold I’m sorry.
Changing it from level 100-200 is the dumbest shit ever.
Ong it already takes long af without weapon xp boost I cant imagine doing another 100 lvls 💀
Games dead
@@demitriomurillo8409
You should be grateful, that means more grinding to do
The Dumbest shit I’ve ever Witnessed😂 I had got the MP5 To lvl 47, yea they ain’t shit for this change😂
@@holeyschittyou should be grateful!! More time to grind for a camo you should’ve unlocked at lvl100!!! Life is grind‼️
the second i saw the camo changes this morning ive been waiting for this video lmao i knew it was coming.
same XD
@@stormyarmy3321efiant
Same, I watched a few others.
But i know jev is gonna be the most relatable.
I've only got 8 guns to go, I'm pretty upset😂
Taking longer to earn unlockable skins makes it more likely people will buy other skins. It always circles back to the money.
If they even continue to play. It's a balancing act
Well it's a free game
@@nathanh2725 who cares? Other free games got it right
Unlocking camos was the whole incentive to play. Now that it's absurdly long people are going to stop playing. They should have just added a new camo for level 200 to keep people grinding as that's more reasonable.
@JulianY2K12 yeah it also doesn't help the shop skins are literally trash with exception to a few. No ones buying those they just won't play
the bump from 3500xp per level to 3k per level is such a stupidly low drop that it might as well not even happened lmao
devs really went "damn casuals are leaving because of the weapon grind, let's make it feel exactly the same then make Gold even more unobtainable for the average player"
They literally spat in our faces lol
Basically😂
I have no clue what they are thinking? Nobody asked them to make it take longer 😭
If you’re going for camos instead of enjoying the game, something is wrong
@@staychrispy91you know some people wanna grind for something as well? there’s only so much you can do with just enjoying the game by just playing without purpose. which is why camos and other level progressions exist, so that it keeps player retention.
Level 200 to get Gold on one weapon is CRAZY
Yes it is but I’d still give it a chance, maybe after playing for a while it’ll feel better as they did make it take less time to level up, i think it’d be too easy to get a weapon gold if they kept the level cap at 100 and still reduced the XP required, sure maybe making it 200 is too much and something like 150 would be better but, at least they’re good at communicating with the community and owning up to things they get wrong. if this change doesn’t work then they’ll most likely change it again :)
@@jamesgardiner9969 bro it still takes 70% more xp to level a gun to gold, and it already took a long ass time. the only reason some people have a couple gold is because they're throwing out double xp weekends and tokens left and right. When all that shit stops it's gonna take 80 games to get a gun gold
6k kills for a primary weapon to be gold and 2k kills for a secondary to be gold
The game is going to last YEARS. This isn't the 3 month and done COD winter grinder.
@@exposingthetruth3821 exactly, weapon camos are designed for people who put a lot of time into a weapon and loving using a certain weapon. Back in the day on the old COD’s i’d feel so rewarded just for getting my favourite weapons to gold rather than how it is now having to get every single weapon in the game gold just to use a certain camo on a few guns i like to use ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And just like that I stopped giving a fuck about the mastery camos for having every gold camo in a category. Feels like a big fuck you to everyone who already grinded them out.
How in the blue fuck is it a fuck you? They literally said if you already had them unlocked then you're keeping them. Stop complaining about everything, you mfs are so annoying 😂
Might be the reason I switch back to cod.
Yup and now mastery camos will be locked behind lv200
Sad but I have to agree and I'm a big fan and wanted to grind them before. Doubling it is insane...
yea this shit is hilarious, people really believed ubisoft could keep a good game good 😂
All Ubi had to do was leave gold at 100 and make a new camo for 200 or even 150 too but that’s too much to ask for. They just want to destroy every game they make
I really hate this change to the mastery grind it was already a lot of work to get a gun gold and this also sets the precedent that the devs can make your hard work on the game worthless without telling you beforehand
I mean that precedent has been there for years, most devs don't really give a fuck about the average player in any way. Happens a lot where they just reverse progress or change major features after wasting hours upon hours on it
Some quick math here. Before the patch, to get to level 100, you'd require 350,000 xp, while now you require 600,000 xp, meaning the diff is an additional 250,000 xp. If Jev were to avg. 3.5 levels a match, he would have to play ~57.143 total matches to level a single gun from level 1. Considering he's currently at 26, we can subtract 78,000 xp from the total 600,000 xp; this means that, from level 26, Jev will have to avg. 3.5 levels a game for ~49.714 games. It's been a bit since I've played XDefiant, but lets say the avg. match of Occupy takes about 15 minutes. Assuming this while taking into account the approximate required number of matches, Jev must play for a total of ~745.714 minutes ( ~12.429 hours). It's 100% doable, Jev, but I don't envy your grind. Love your vids, and I can't wait to see your Elden Ring DLC content
That’s dropping 70+ kills its doable but man not for causal gamers
@@YuiFTPyeah thats crazy, because why even bother going for mastery camos. This Shit takes 2 years if youre not scump. I think they want to Upgrade the store so players will buy weapon skins rather than going for mastery camos
@@dennisdodic6255I agree it’s ridiculous. So much for “listening to the community”…. Who TF asked for this??
To finish just primary weapons from start to finish will take around 240 hours and that is off you drop 70 kills a game. Secondary’s not included
This update just destroyed all of my hopes and dreams of camo grinding in this game
And just like that, I no longer wish to grind x defiant. I will play casually but not going for the camos like I do on COD games
getting weapons to gold was already a very hard challenge before the update, this just makes it unattainable for casual gamers.
It's not a challenge it's just time consuming
@@nathanh2725 fr like at least in cod there are actual challenges. this is just an obvious attempt to increase players play time, and therefore increasing the odds they buy something in the store. its all calculated.
@@nathanh2725whats what a “grind” is….. a challenge is a challenge and a camo grind is a camo grind
@@nathanh2725 thats the challenge, it takes too long for no real reason
@@robinbanks8979 well there's nothing really to grind for as of now
Biggest selling point for the game was no skill-based match making for the casuals... I don't know if the casuals will love a month long grind to get 1 single weapon Gold lmao.
A person working a 9-5 coming home isn't gonna play many games and probably won't drop more than 25 kills a game. These are the people I'm basing this off of.
Hell even people like me and my buddies that can get 40+ kills a game and work full time jobs won't even wanna do this. We're not pros but the 3 of us absolutely maul people majority of our time on this game (We love FPS). Ranking up weapons was already bad and now this is way worse, a lot of people regardless who you are, this is gonna make a lot of people stop playing. Ubisoft already shot themselves in the foot before Season 1, this is already a very bad sign.
@@avergrey3617 I mean I have zero problem stomping on people playing solo, if I go play cod pubs its like playing ranked. Theres definitely no SBMM in Xdefiant, the difference its significant.
Yeah I might get a gold weapon by next year 😂
maybe some people play games to have fun? I know right it is such a strange concept.
The 9-5 grind was real for my boy’s and i (1.3-2.0 kd’s), we all get on at around 6:30 p.m. to get off around 10 or 11 p.m. just for this update to rip all that work out of our hands, even with not thinking about it, we did not enjoy playing tonight and ended up getting back on apex LOL.
There are definitely some weird bugs after yesterday… along with the sound being gone for a kill in certain modes, I literally went to throw a grenade and it showed me throwing my MP5 at the enemy… it was hilarious.
Lmfao are they out of their mind? 17% XP buff, but 100 extra levels? I feel sorry for Jev (I don't play COD or XD)
Terrible change imo. Hopefully there’s enough backlash they revert it because 200 is crazy for no reason
It's a free game my man there probably setting it up for double xp tokens being in store
I think they'll 100% do something about it because the backlash will be too big, and since its a free game, they have to sustain it to make money since it's not like cod where they make alot of the money when the players buy the initial game
Ubisoft is going to kill this game before Black Ops 6 has the chance.
Yep sucks
bo6 would have killed it either way
@@keanukoren6109Bo6 will be a 5/10 at best because of sbmm. Don't act like cod is any good now
@@DogMakingSausage dont need to act . cod is good with or without sbmm .
@@Keloot 😂😂😂😂
I am pissed af about this. I replied to Mark's tweet respectfully criticizing the change and that it shall be reverted --meaning only the part of where the mastery camo levels would be reverted BACK to 50, 75, 100
I was working on my AA12 to finish out the Gold on the shotguns but after this update, i dont even want to grind it anymore. I feel bad for people that were 4 levels off from 100
It’s like they hate us or something. They couldn’t just make leveling easier?
It’s all made up and arbitrary. Are you playing the game just to finish the weapons?
theyre are preparing for later mastery skins. Do you ONLY want gold forever?
@@R17759yes
@@JoesWatchingThen you’ve lost the plot
they don't like people who have a job apparently lol
Bro I’m genuinely tweaking because of the Elden Ring dlc. I. NEED. IT. NOW.
Jesus Christ rub one out to to it at this point
3 more days tarnished one
dog shit game, overhyped all because streamers are playing it lol
Same, I know that feeling, in my bones.
Few more days bro "eye twitches"😅
bro i got everything to lvl 50 then was gonna go gold I'm not even gonna get one gold now fuck this game lol
Same, and to make it worse there’s actually braindead no lives saying this change was good💀
Your amazing jev thanks for making my day almost every for 7 years
Fuck that man, it's almost impossible now for a casual player or someone who doesn't have enough time on their hands to complete the gold camo, what a shitty change.
Elden ring dlc so about to be peak 😭🙏
Players: Guns take too long to level.
Mark: We made it take even longer!
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Pearl?
My guess is the mastery camos will be level 300, 400, and 500. Platinum, Pristine, and then Aura. Maybe they’ll even keep adding more who knows
Dont even want to play anymore because of this
that Mount Everest analogy made me audibly laugh out loud! Just started watching your channel, keep up the good work!
This change will change XDefiant for good. I do not like this update. Way too high of levels for me. Seems like they don’t like the casual gamers anymore!
this helps the casuals to get attachments faster in guns they want to level up, it makes the hardcore players play longer to get their camos
They made it to where you unlock attachments faster so it’s better for casual players but harder for those who want to get mastery camos (non-causal players)
@@potza579 After reading the comments, i think his viewers classify getting gold camo as "casual players"
@@potza579 It helps marginally though lmao
It's 500 less XP per level, that is barely noticeable.
@@potza579 The scale is off so far though. Most decent guns were fully leveled at 43, so 150.500 xp. Now you need 129.000 xp. That's really not that much of a change. Gold camos though went from 350.000 to 600.000. That's just too wild man...
They should’ve just made the mastery camo at 200 level and OBJ points should count towards weapon leveling as well.
They also need Prestige mode in the game soon as possible.
One must imagine Sisyphus happy
This was the worst update ever. This is just going to make people not want to play objective even more. It already was bad that kill farming was so prevalent bc the only way to earn xp was kills but now increasing the xp needed with that being the only way means even sweatier not objective based lobbies smh. All over these shitty ass camos. Cod mobile has a better looking gold camo than this shit
Did the math for anyone wondering. The XP gun change is not a small difference it is a HUGE difference. To get a gun gold you needed exactly 350,000 XP (aka lvl 100) before. Now for a primary weapon it is 600,000 XP to get to level 200. The change from 3500 to 3000 for each level is insignificant when considering the 3k is multiplied by 200 vs 3.5k multiplied by 100.
I've been waiting for this reaction.
The inevitable "we made our money so it's time to kill the game" cycle is starting.
Free games are a breeding ground for this stuff just wait for them to sell 2xp
It's like halo infinite is leaking garbage strats
Yup after all It is Ubisoft. +3 years later of development and there’s still no incentive to play other then the now unbearable camo grind
Fun fact: if you look down and shoot when a spiderbot jumps on your face it will be destroyed.
how to kill your game 101
Agreed 😢
Good thing is that they know what they're doing and yet they're still taking risks for something players were reporting. This is a good thing, they're listening to the community but not too much, they know how to do the difference between some whinnings and relevant feedbacks to take into account. This is very promising
Instantly thought of jev lol
What they should’ve done is increased the camo level requirement by the same as the xp then you get attachments quicker and you’d get the camos at the same rate as before the change
i was like yessssss then i was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
All they needed to do was make objective score count towards weapon xp - similarly to how cod works. Bc with xdefiant, only combat score gives you weapon xp apparently
I also noticed the footstep audio change. I sometimes hear enemies from very faraway where there isn’t much going on.
I was also mistaking my teammates footsteps for enemies
Common Ubisoft L
The number 1 worst thing you can do for a game is delay gratification to gamers. Doing such a thing kills games, lots of gamers quit if things get pushed to unattainable heights without any reward. I really hope they don’t pull something dumb in the future like this with something important.
Every companies slogan: “we listen and implement community feedback”
Reality: 🧐 I swear I reviewed all the comments, who…asked for this?
They lied about not taking gold away, I can't equip it for any of the weapons I unlocked it for before the patch, they should have just given players level 200 that grinded to 100 pre patch, they clearly meant to have 100 be the end goal and moved it because they realized they could manipulate players into buying xp boosters. Are they going to remove your mastery skins next time you hit the level cap again? No thanks, I'm done with this game.
Buddy, it’s literally still there just equip it through the skins tab and not the mastery tab
They should’ve left it how it was and gave us 2 new mastery camos at 150 and 200
"what do you mean 'increased?'" Is probably the single most relatable quote from these patches.
I will say, because if the extra mastery camos we're getting in season 1, I think their plan is to keep Gold the "golden" standard and give us more camos in-between. However, I still think this is the single worst change without any context.
Like, they hear us. They read our stuff. They know what the community wants. We don't want easy access to gold, we just wanted attachments easier so that we don't feel handicapped against people that no life the game. Did they miss the point or is this preparation?
Loving the XDefiant stuff Jev but can you continue Ghost of Tsushima !!!
I could just be coping but to me the only thing that makes sense for such an increase in the camo levels is getting a decent number of earnable camos to go in between bronze,silver and gold.
Today the community for this game was reminded that it's made by Ubisoft.
I love the netcode changes but if they keep making unnecessary changes like this then they're going to lose players quickly.
I know something else that’ll make everything harder
I know xp gains are going to increase more but god damn doubling to get gold is insane, especially with no gains between so you grind 200 levels on one gun and you get nothing after all the attachments that you get pre level 50, kinda insane change
Jev saying oh no has me😂😂😂😂
I’ve been watching jev for like 10 years. There’s confidence and then there’s being full of yourself. He has both😂
With the new weapon xp adjustment/weapon level increase. It takes 6k kills with a primary just to get it gold and 2k kills with a secondary just to get it gold
I never knew how much joy a good kill confirmed sound brought me till this bug
Right when I saw the tweet announcing these changes, I had you in my prayers lol
This was an update that shouldve been done on launch not a month into it. I work a 9-5 everyday then grind when i get home, just to feel like everything ive done this far has been for nothing. Very frustrating from my standpoint.
The casual Gamers got no chance to unlock even bronze 🥉😂
To be fair they’re expecting an 8 year game life
3/4 of the server I get on my bullets feel like sponge bullets, and everyone else's are magnets because they get me around corners. And then the bunny hopping abusing the terrible servers makes it that much more terrible.
Why would they not just keep gold the same and just add another mastery camo that is level 200???
Well it was fun while it lasted, looks like the higher ups at Ubisoft finally got their greedy hands on the development.
If I had to guess, XD is playing the long game. Since it’s a live service game, it’s probably meant to reward those who play long term.
XD mastery will basically be the equivalent of max prestige. Sucks but I get it and it will be a flex.
There's a problem with that method, though, BO6 drops in a few months. Making the camo grind too long and unbearable for everyone isn't a winning strategy, especially considering what they have to compete with. I get the feeling XD will become a game you hop on when CoDs SBMM starts irritating you. There's plenty of time to fix this, though. But at the end of the day, it's Ubisoft.
Netcode feels worse for me personally, I’ve been getting sit behind corners way more today than yesterday.
They made from 350 thousand weapon xp for the 100 levels and 600 thousand weapon xp for the 200 levels. May as well call it double the amount of work for the same thing.
They really hit jev with this as he had like 2 more weapons left 😂
Jev roasting the other team for wanting to win lmaoo
this update just made me lose all my motivation to grind for camos now
They doubled the levels required to get the skins but only decreased the xp required by around 16-17 percent
It's like they saw Jev, and saw that he had almost every gun gold, and then assumed we were all like that lmao. This needs to just fully be reversed and might as well leave weapon levels back to their originals. Gold camos are a pipe dream to casuals now
Ngl this sucks for me all my weapons are level 50-80 but now it takes twice as much just to get gold on every gun
Happy to see this game is also getting the Ubisoft treatment when it comes to updates. Gotta love dumb decisions and new bugs
The Ubisoft cancer.
3k XP from level 1-50, and 4k from 50-100. balances out the 3500xp you get attachments earlier, and xp to 100 will still be what it is now total. and then from 100-150 make it like 5k or something so its an actual grind for the elite camos
the extent of the increased requirements for mastery camos definitely feels like a miss. Can't see anyone appreciating that and unless players are grinders or only use one weapon, it will take much much much longer to get gold etc
Jev got me crying 😂😂😂
People complain about levels but fail to realise , this isnt cod where another one is going to he released next year , this game is going to last years , it has to be a grind theres no annual release , with this longevity in mind i think its a good change
they cut the XP needed per level by 15%. yet increased the XP needed to reach max level by 70%. if you unlocked a level every game you played, you would need to play 100 games on the old system per gun. now its 200 per gun!!. you have to play double the amount!!!
You get all camos > you stop playing > game dies.
Lengthen grind > you play more > game lives.
Simple.
They messed up big time with the level increase 😭
I understand that it would suck to lose your golds, but it sucks even more that anyone that didn’t get it has to do roughly double the work for the same thing
Oh no I’m dripping to 200 fps is a crazy flex
Really bad decision unless they add obj score to weapon leveling.. kinda feels like all the progress we made so far was for nothing
I'm convinced the developers watch jev and adjust their game based off of his performance or suggestions. He was too close to 100% gold and they made it more difficult.
This is 800 hours of gameplay. I have a life, Mark.
So glad I only played this game for the first three days...
Even if you CAN still equip the gold, doesn’t it completely diminish the feeling of completion of them doubling the requirement
I’m just a casual player but recently I’ve been grinding because I wanted to get the gold (or at least silver because I liked the look of it) mastery skin for my double barrel shotgun. I ended last night at level 64, knowing that I would have time today to grind out the last few levels and finally get the silver skin and be well on my way to the gold skin. Now I am not even halfway to the silver skin, and I know I am a grown man complaining about gun skins on a video game, but this really sucks man.
its like in anime beating a villain only to find out theres a stronger guy over him and you barely beat the first guy😂
they are tweakin with that camo change to lvl 200 like GAH DAMN
Yup I had a feeling this would happen, Mark literally just killed his game, Horrid tick rate, an egregious xp system and now 200 levels for 1 gold? Alright
The level increase genuinely makes me not want to play the game
I don't know what they were thinking with this change. It's a major fuck up. As you mentioned, it was already a decent grind to get a gold gun. Now it's far too much of a grind. The fact that they thought doing this was a good idea when they already dropped the game and had a set amount of levels is crazy. If it was from launch then it is still a mistake but changing it now is insane. It's such a blatant bad idea, I just have no idea how this was approved. It's one of those self-destructive dev decisions that makes no sense.