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John is mistaken about Chinese ambition in Indian Ocean...China needs to keep Indian Ocean safe for trade purposes and to be able to prevent US from cutting off this route in time of war!!! John chooses not to understand this reality!!!
*Yes, India's rise is good for the US because the Military Industrial Complex and the Deep State will have another enemy to feed on! Right now, India is nothing more than a useful idiot for the US!*
@@INDIANSARESICKMENOFASIA Perhaps you're not the best educated on the subject, or judging from your alias, you're not a particularly rational (or sane) individual yourself. The land was the same, the climatic conditions were the same, even the agriculture was the same for hundreds, even thousands of years. Yet there are no historical records of the kind of devastation that the famine under Churchill's Britain brought to Bengal. Volumes have been written on the subject, on the systematic deprivation, siphoning of resources and wealth (in other words, theft), of neglect of the growing shortage of foodgrains, of diversion of lifesaving grain to British troops in Europe, of dismissal of desperate pleas even by local British officials, based on BRITISH records, to call BS on your comment. Pick up a book, view a documentary, talk to someone who knows about the subject, before you make a fool of yourself in public like this. But you're just a troll, here with an agenda to disrupt, and waiting for an opportunity to spew some racist bile, which I expect will be your next comment.
@@bogdanpopescu1401their problem is not just interest or business Benifits, they unstablise the country by creating terrorists and victim country can't even say against it. If they want India to shoulder their problem then they should also shoulder india problems but they just care about them
India is too busy thwarting US-backed color revolutions and regime change operations within its own borders to be an "ally" to the US. India has learned first hand that infamous saying: being an enemy of the USA is dangerous, but being its friend is fatal (or something like that).
@@GroupHawkin Pakistan last year.. Bangladesh last month.. It was failed in India, it was not a color revolution, but to weaken(less seat) our Leader
@@GroupHawk cope harder as u can but it can't change the fact that US tried to unstablize our government in recent election through their deepstate specifically they use NGOs , social media to spread their propaganda
You know not all of us indians believe America when they say they will help india rise. Americans can't help themselves. They expose themselves through their key stone cop routines. Support for Khalistan and kashmir , mollycoddling pakistan (india doesnt get aid, pakistan does), recent color revolutions in bangladesh. It's OK to think you are very smart and much smarter than india, we forgive you that but you seem to think indians are idiots...
Power can be projected by space weapons, hypersonic missiles, cyber warfare, Ai equipped drones, nuclear powered nuclear armed submarines, so regional hegemony is not necessary to have a credible deterrence.
Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎If under a Indian PM/Politician ▪︎Protesting Rapes against his Govt - Sedition,Jailed ▪︎Protesting Rapes against other Govts - Allowed ▪︎Indian PM/Politician - Democratic or Fascist?
One difference ....China became a superpower with all the help of US and EU .... India will become a superpower with the challenges from the US and the EU
@@SrikanthIyerTheMariner Yes, Indo-China war happened because of the chinese communists. First the chinese occupied Tibet and then fought for more Indian territory. China still has issues with the Indian border and claims a big part of Indian territory.
Yeah also there was no war because both India and China lived next door to Tibet for the most part of the 3000 years and did not share a direct border...
is india really a threat for the usa? if became superpower i dont think its true because what is the issue with china the issue is in the fundamentals of china that china is expansionist, china thinks whole south and east china sea belong to him china building trade corridors that leads to trade hegemony or monopoly for china, china is not democratic, china dont advocate human rights, china dont open to the world as information not passes from china, china uses unfair trade practices, and many more strategical concerns comes with china but when we talk about then there is not that much starategical concerns come because india respect international borders, allow easy sea trade routes, always open, and ready to share the tech, has an open market, is a democracy, not a expansionist, do fair trade practices, dont hide data like the china, dont build a hegemonic monopoly in trade and etc soo there is no any particular reason for the usa to see india as threat, and they buying oil from russia or not its there personal choice to engage with countries and its a diplomatic issue with india not a strategic issue and also yess that what i wanna say that whem india is ready to share the tech with usa and develop together then why usa will see india as threat like the china? usa will not see india as a threat but will see as a strategic partner in the region to manage the middle east and china and other rising asean region in future with tech and other things
Tbh western people are the most travelled people, that's how they are in each continent, colonisation doesn't happen without travelling and travelling efficiently. Eastern people and people outside west are generally very parochial in their mindset tbh, and I say this as someone who is not a westerner. It's not lack of knowledge in western societies it's about not having right people at right place. You see west is the most meritocratic part of world yet they are facing these problems, then you can imagine about the rest of the world who are still fighting to secure bread, they can't even think about meritocracy or world at large.
They might still think China is a threat once they‘ve discovered all of our capability. Maybe even more. As a Chinese I won’t risk my future on their “kindness” all of the sudden. We still have long way to go.
As an Indian let me tell you, we have been through around 300 years of divide and rule by west. We know this game too well now. John is clueless about India and China as well. Jeffrey seems to be the one with grip on reality. India can't be stopped like west did for past few centuries. No Indian trusts America, this is general public mood here. We haven't forgotten the atrocities of west for decades. Russia on the other hand we see as a reliable partner and always will. Regarding China, we want to have good relations with China. We have our disputes but we can manage them without escalation like we did for many decades. Divide and rule is too old to pull of now. We will be a superpower by end of the century.
We wish to have a healthy and mature relationship with our Indian friends, different from the zero sum game that US is playing against China. With such a long history and facilitated civilization, we believe that the Indians should know better about politics than the childish Americans.
@@RahulSharma-dq4yr from india's point of view, why china want to have trouble on borders now? china is under a lot pressure from the US, which means the china's main focus is on the americans, and the last thing china want is to have trouble with india at this moment. china could choose other time to disturb india. there is no immediate resason for china to have conflict with india border, right? for example the conflict with phillipinos or vietnam is about the oil underneath the south china sea, if china did not act quickly, vietnam or philipinos would occupy some islands in the south china sea and claim economic zone. what can china gain from the border conflict with india, why so urgent? I can explian the conflict from the chinese point of view. its because the india gov is a democratic system, to win a election he need vote and support. the conflict with china could gain popularity because indians will not forget the 1962 war, which is the same as chinese will never forget the japan invasion in ww2. the second reason is the india military need conflict to ask for more funding from indian gov. china political system have no such reasoning for border conflict whatsoever.
the alliance you referred to never existed. it was just normalized diplomatic relation. normalized relations with Syria brought them a civil war, with China the Tiananmen Square, a failed colored revolution for both.
@@willengel2458 that was an alliance....it was not a formal alliance like a defense treaty. it allowed China to become America's sweat shop, to make Chinese workers suffer lung disease, pollute the land, control how many kids they have and create a top heavy population of aging seniors while still unable to boost agriculture.
Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎Satan said Devils/Jinns are Superior Race ▪︎Hitler said Ariens are Superior Race ▪︎Those who hold Superior/Caste Race complex ▪︎Following - God or Satan?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings The non-ashrāf Muslim castes are of three levels of status: at the top, converts from high Hindu castes, mainly Rājputs, insofar as they have not been absorbed into the Shaykh castes; next, the artisan caste groups, such as the Julāhās, originally weavers; and lowest, the converted untouchables.
As an Indian i would say "Ssshh, dont notice and dont discuss, let us evolve quietly when other players are confronting cause we cause harm to no one"😊
India and China have been living together in peace for thousands of years until the Anglo Americans came along and tried to impose their divide and conquer wet dream on the two ancient countries. Disappointment is waiting for them.
In Iraq there is an old saying from the time when the Brits "divided and rule" there. ... "If you see two fish fighting at the bottom of the Tigris River, you can know that the British have just crossed a short time ago". Today the Yanks have continued what their Brit predecessors did. They are stirring up trouble all over the world.
i believe india and china only fought one skirmish during 5000 years of boarding each other! so john’s great power competition is BS. that one skirmish was a brief one, and according to both side, no atrocity was committed. it was a clean war. My roommate back in college was from india, his grandfather was in that war and saved by chinese medics and doctors after he was injured. His grandfather later became a negotiator during the 90s. my roommate said his grandfather always remembered how well he was treated and tried to bring peace between these two countries. As bad as things got notice neither side is using even rifles against each other
Sachs speaks from International Angle, not just China‘s Angle. International Communities are fed up with Americans hegemony idealogy. Anglo-Saxon is not in charge anymre.
It is just a matter of time, before the US view India as a threat especially if their economy is very much better than US and if India choose not to listen to the US a lot of times, like continuing to buy more oil from Russia.
@@Jay-ro1qc US won't accept any country fast catching up, they would be labeled as threat subsequently sabotaged and suppressed ... We witnessed Japan in 1980 .
India's rise is good for India, every country has its self-interest. India cannot displease Russia or China. they are India's neighborhood. India has to follow its policy of non-alignment just for its survival.
he just paid to talk what on narrative bro guiding sheeple mentality to western public..... and continue to make US top 0.1% richer than bottom 90% did people in US realize their bottom 90% poorer than top 0.1%? which are u guys in? top 0.1%? lol
Theoretically,any country could rise to its potential. But, the reason we are watching this debate by two Americans means Uncivilized Society of America worrying about India’s rise and become a regional power even a global power. India is vulnerable compared to China in terms of domestic racial and regional conflicts. Its political system also vulnerable for foreign interference. American inherited all the bad habits from their Anglo-Saxophone ancestors British in terms of meddling other country domestic politics. So the real question is, can India escape western influence meddling in its domestic politics and avoid racial and regional tensions escalating into violence even civil war?
As an Indian from Delhi, must say you've raised a valid point. The US through its deep state is still working hard to undermine India's democracy. Frankly, majority of Indians do not trust the Americans (read the White House) and the Chinese (read everyone).
John ignores the very fact that China is the world most trading nation surpassing even the US. So sea routes freedom of navigation and security are China's weakness but of utmost important. Unlike US or its allies, staging wars and maintaining their hegemony and dominance are their long traditional means and objectives. More countries in the world are seeing the true nature of western values and malicious nature unlike what the West wants others to believe. Even together with their non western allies or vassal states, collectively they only represent 12% of the world populations or nations. Certainly calling themselves as "The World" is already a great mistake but propaganda jargon to mislead and manipulation of the true global opinions. Just like what Prof Kishore Mahbubani's observations and interactions with other world leaders today. The West just want to colonizes and rules the world but not by occupation of territories and with direct control. Everyone should see them vividly and openly today.
UK is responsible for this chaos. If UK had step down from UNSC and give it to India then BRICS expansion could nt happen. BRICS expanding due to India.
That was a flippant answer to the question on India. That’s because the intellectuals are clueless about India. What they know about it is what the British colonials have written about it. They haven’t studied India, for them India is still a dependent state teetering towards anarchy. Their gaze doesn’t go beyond Europe and China. Rest of the world doesn’t exist. What wisdom can come out from their minds?
You are right! They think they know what they are talking about! They don’t! Spewing lot of word salad. The decline of the west is fact, and they don’t seem to understand. Post Brexit UK is done! Of course, they still believe they still rule the world. I wouldn’t lose any sleep over what Jefferey Sachs or Herscemeir say. Jefferey may be a big shot in his circle. It makes no difference to India. We have capable Dr. J who will run circles around Jeffery! It is typical WHITE MAN SYNDROME!!!
India might not be an ally of US as per western terms but India certainly wants a long term good relationship with US where each other's security concerns are taken care of, where trade plays the major role and people are not fragmented by narrow domestic walls.
How do you know? You the foreign secretary or something? How do you know the Indian state is not sponsoring shady stuff in neighborhood countries too. It is not like any country would make such data public.
I disagree. India can never get along with China. Maybe we ll make peace with Pakistan someday when their is true democracy established in Pak but it ll never happen with China. It ll always be our enemy. Iam sure of that
@@holdmybeer123I think he knows more about it than you do. At least allow us indians to know more about our own views than you western arm chair generals.
is india really a threat for the usa? if became superpower i dont think its true because what is the issue with china the issue is in the fundamentals of china that china is expansionist, china thinks whole south and east china sea belong to him china building trade corridors that leads to trade hegemony or monopoly for china, china is not democratic, china dont advocate human rights, china dont open to the world as information not passes from china, china uses unfair trade practices, and many more strategical concerns comes with china but when we talk about then there is not that much starategical concerns come because india respect international borders, allow easy sea trade routes, always open, and ready to share the tech, has an open market, is a democracy, not a expansionist, do fair trade practices, dont hide data like the china, dont build a hegemonic monopoly in trade and etc soo there is no any particular reason for the usa to see india as threat, and they buying oil from russia or not its there personal choice to engage with countries and its a diplomatic issue with india not a strategic issue and also yess that what i wanna say that why india is ready to share the tech with usa and develop together then why usa will see india as threat like the china? usa will not see india as a threat but will as a strategic partner in the region to manage the middle east and china and other rising asean region in future with tech and other things
Months before WW2 ended, US already had in their mind that their NEXT big enemy was USSR. So now what's in the mind of US. Who will be their NEXT big enemy if they really succeed to defeat China in the years to come. Is it India. Will US allow India to grow its economy to a point like China today.
Not really - In order to maintain quality of life of westerner countries , some of the countries have to sufer -- Those are caleld 3rd world countries most of which are there in Africa .. capitalism is another name for feudalism
@@bogdanpopescu1401 bad governance by design -- Western interference is there to support bad governance -- How ?. for example some African countries have Oil reserves -- Western country will exploit the situation by pocketing the authorities through inducement so that they can easily tap that oil reserve through some obscure International or some treaty or some such things which only favors those developed nation. It is happening continuously for last 50 years -- Things are now getting changed and hence we see turmoil across globe -- This change will yield better quality of life for those who sufered in the past .. Let us see
India too wishes a great partnership and relationship with US. But US think tank and policy makers must understand two facts 1. India cannot be used as a puppet like Pakistan or Zelenskyy 2. Purchasing Power Parity of India. Indian upper middle class club is having higher purchasing power than any of developed countries in Europe
@@Chiga-lt6vq Yes. Very important question. I too have wondered many times, why they are doing it to falling economies like UK. My answer is better working culture. In India , still , employees are being over used in corporate sector. GDP/ per capita income is very less in India, because of its huge population. Leave Indian coglemeres , if you take about Indian middle class club, it’s as huge as the entire population of many developed countries in Europe and their average income slso not below than 20 to 30 percent of average income of those countries. Upper middle class club in India is having more advantage than that of those developed countries because of price parity. Still why they are moving out? Answer is better working culture
China and India do have conflicts. Does anybody remember how they fought the last time on the border only a few years ago? Let me remind the world: they fought with fist and rock. They do know how to fight WWIV, so they skipped WWIII.
Thank God for Prof. Sachs’’ understanding of China as well as his profound insight of what it means to be in the nuclear world. There needs to be an update in our beliefs to NOT end in mutual destruction. And to change our beliefs may be what it takes to survive nuclear age.
@@Blixey-r9z the US will unseat Modi or any PM if they continue to pursue non alliance tradition, and I have a bad feeling that the US has high chance of prevailing because it has endless resources because of its reserve currency. Good luck to you.
@@Lululemon2023 the US likes India because Indians are smart and industrious but easy to divide and subjugate as a nation (thanks to their religious, cultural & linguistic diversity and caste system). The income inequality in India is even worse than the US. Their inability to organise and work as a collective makes India much less of a threat . That is how the British ruled India with only 100,000 British for many years.
It’s because Truman was given the key of the British empire after ww2… It was the moment the US foreign policy flipped and became about maintaining and expanding what the British started.
well as a Chinese, i always say i may not know about India, but i can definitely imagine how Indian view the west given our similar history dealing with them😂. also, i find Indian are very proud people, and to be an ally of America basically means a lapd*g of America, Indian think we are the big brother！ therefore its impossible to expect India to be an “ally”😂 It just shows how delusional some western policymakers are😂
@@khalidmehmood1438we don't care much now except pakistan growing even less by the day, especially no one even talks about ASEAN nations. Don't spread misinformation or propaganda just because 1 person out of billion said it.
@@khalidmehmood1438 I read the manifesto. There is no mention of Malaysia, Indonesia, Hindustan, Akhand Bharat . People in India don't vote over delusional fantasies 😂 .
Democracy is US is a joke. Its like the only two big supermarkets in town, and you think you have freedom to choose, to bargain and boycott each other among these two. But you never realised both supermarkets were own by the same Jhewish boss. 😆😂 The boss will make decisions, reap profits and don‘t care your opinion.
Jeffrey Sachs has a very clear vision of the world….India has to tread very carefully in the geopolitical maze but John is right we have Cina trying to create tensions in the Himalayas while the us is trying to create Col our revolution to stop Indias progress
Hi all, as a 45 year old who has a couple of indian neighboring friends in China and Hong Kong and a father of three kids, let me share some of my observation, China's been through what is currently going on in India back in 20th century, the rises of China and India are only stoppable until Chinese and Indians wanted no more. Period.
India and China share a civilizational bond stretching for 8000 years! Do any of the speakers here have a clue? Well, I do. I grew up in India, studied Engineering and Sanskrit, learned the history of the region, and am a Hindu. The Chinese have been India’s holder of civilizational values from the pre-Mandarin period, when Vedic practices were captured in writing by Chinese scholars. The spread of Buddhism form India to China has further strengthened the bonds. The present skirmish along the McMahon Line in the Himalayas is a flash in the pan and won’t last, in fact, apparently a cease fire has been called. What do you think?
India is unpredicted ally of those who can somehow help to maintain world peace and save each and every precious life on earth. How can people of this earth be killer of each other. No amount of enmity is so large to ignore peace. Peace should always be given chance
Rise of India is very good for India, at the same it's good for world too given the power you can sleep peacefully at night India will not harm in anyway until and unless poked at!!
The "great" Jeffrey Sachs was the one who after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 lectured to the Russians that "you can only learn swimming by getting in at the deep end", thereby advocating harsh immediate market reforms which the USA pushed hard and resulted in the impoverishment of millions of Russians. Sachs later admitted that he was wrong, that Glasnost should have preceded Perestroika, not the other way round.
India is playing on both sides for its economic and strategic gains. According to John, India is a friend of America and a member of QUAD. But what John didn't say is that India is not even participating in "Freedom for navigation operations" in the South china sea, which raises a doubt about whether India wants to be a true friend of the US. India is also expected to reach the bilateral trade with Russia to $100 billion by 2030, which is another audacious and excellent move in diplomacy that would help India strengthen both its economy and military whose more than 50% of weaponry is of Russian origin. In terms of military competition between china and India, china is leading the race. But sometimes you also need military experience which China lacks while India had been at war with Pakistan four times, and the deft military maneuvers of the Indian army in Jammu and Kashmir against insurgency clearly delineates how the Indian army has been evolving with time.
Why people always talk about China’s lack of military experience…as if they intentionally forget the sino-India affair of 1962…The China-NATO affairs in Korean and Vietnam. All these events happened when they were the No 53rd economy …
AFAIK: The US supplies Pak with India specific arms every time there is a chance for peace. (US taxpayers pay!) The US has wanted Kashmir since '46: Pakistan is only being used by calling its attacks 'jihad'. Rich Paks get US favours, poor ones die on the border.
You seem to have missed some international news. India is part of the freedom of navigation operations, and has conducted navigation in that part of the ocean. Otherwise your observations are on the point.
China has a population decline problem, but so as Japan, S.Korea, India and entire Western World. But China doesn‘t have immigration problem. Lastly, Apple has move back to China from India. 😀
couldn't have said it better. we must first focus on the elevation of a vast majority of our population from poverty. India's situation now is similar to that of tsarist russia, where the country as a whole was a formidable force, but from inside it was poor and broken. Getting entangled in these big power games does not do us any good. Lets look inwards first and settle the problems at home.
The question:1) is Russias raise good for us.? 2) is Chinas raise good for us? 3) is middle easts rise good for us? 4) is African continent s rise good for us? 5) is europes rise good for us? 6) is asian continents rise good for us? 7) is Britains raise good for us? 8) is Australias raise good for us? Now my friend ask the question is India's raise good for us? Combined ans NO.
you ppl always want that other will work under you! That's not gonna happen we Indian had seen how the American and EU treated us in past! So we r not gonna do same mistakes again at any cost! We will do everything for our interest!
Such an appalling and insecure question in this day and age. Why think that the rise of one country is going to be bad for another? There are ongoing wars at any given time around the world due such backward thinking. This is not how leaders think. This is not how we want to influence the future leaders to think. Instead consider how all of us can unite on all fronts for the betterment of humanity and sustainment of our planet.
India looks good right now because, non hindus are not majority here yet. We still have a progressive PM who works for growth and development of the nation. Come 2029, all this would change. In fact we were lucky that it did not happen in 2024 and missed by a whisker.
Both are great! My view is that as countries grow richer, they grow softer. Nobody, specifically democracies, will have the stomach for war. No rich parent wants their child to die for some megalomaniacal ambition of the leader. But mindsets have to evolve. Us vs Them thinking has to go. Unless there is mutual trust, real change is difficult.
It can be argued That assembling not manufacturing happens in China too The factor you should be looking at is how much of the components are localised
This sounds great on the surface but nearly impossible in current scenario. The living cost in China has risen to all-time high, it's difficult to raise a single child let alone 2/3 kids. Yes the govt can introduce some beneficiary programs or subsidies to couples having multiple kids but will that amount ever come par to the lifelong expenditure that parents will have to bear? NO. With currents economic trends Chinese economy can't afford such programs
China (and the world) does not need more people right now. China seems to be doing well and I am happy for the Chinese! We can aim for decreasing uncontrolled growth while improving goods and services worldwide and raising ALL kids nicely.
How to make India as an ally to US…? There comes an X factor and that’s Russia. With a simple stroke, US can have two allies. Solution is BRING RUSSIA UNDER NATO UMBRELLA…! US was having some misconceptions, rather I must say double standards in approaching issues. Yes, sometimes it’s required too. But many times, they play it unnecessarily. Sometimes they used to say about democratic values. But they aided Pakistan, though it was an autocratic state and neglected India which is the largest democracy in the world. So coming to the point, how to bring Russia in NATO!!!. US need an enemy in Europe to make their supremacy among European countries, that’s Russia. First US has to come out of that mindset. Then allow Russia to satisfy its wounded ego by capturing Ukraine land as large as they can within a time frame. Then bring UN to implement a ceasefire. So Russia will be happy. Then implement a peace accord between Russia and Ukraine. Along with this move , make Russia a member of Europe. US should not fall in the trap of political ambitions of Zelenskyy. Russia is little bit dependent on China now. India is trying hard to delay that dependence. If Russia & China are united, then it will be a problem for US allies also. So Russia has to be in NATO while they can have economic ties with China like any other European countries. For that Trump has to come. Trump knows what should be the interest of US in long run
Jeff is wrong about China. People who have had border clashes with China (china’s expansionist policy) know what they are talking about. Jeff talks only about Economics and he does not consider the implications on national securities of respective countries and why they feel the need to contain China.
In late last century, white British Raj only needed 100K soldiers to colonize a 300mils India. Moreover, 1.2mils even fought WW2 in Europe and elsewhere to maintain British empire. What's India's attitude or behavior today will not surprise anyone regardless whether India will remain, siding or fighting for any parties or even flip-flopping between the rivalry camps.
There were hundreds of thousands of Brits not just 100K. Yes, they were a minority but had support a class of Indians. Indians served Brits and ruled over other Indians for Brits. Also, not whole of India was under British rule as entities like Nepal,etc. remained independent of British rule and presence. British India itself was a conglomerate and much of it consisted Princely States. India is a diverse country. A great ancient civilizational nation. Case of pre-colonial India was to some extent like pre-1870-71 Germany and Italy. Nation and national identity indeed existed but it wasn't cohesive and took time for achieving political consolidation. Now Pakistan and Isl..mic separatism, are a different subject....
@@peanut0brain Others were also having guns and gunboats. Brits weren't the only ones in the world to possess such weapons. Get yourself a good book on military history...
The reality is that India is a rising power irrespective of whether it's good for the US. And there's very little that the US could do about it other than partner with India. While the US looks at it through the China prism alone, India sees itself as an upcoming global player with a huge population to look after. Nevertheless it will be unwise for the US to expect a Pakistan-style tie up where the former had a regime-specific approach with no longer term commitment.
West, especially US, has wanted only lapdogs, not allies. It was India's first Prime Minister Nehru who once famously said that India was too big to be anyone's lapdog! Therein lies the problem. India has an independent streak when it comes to foreign policy. Instead of joining either of the blocs during the Cold War, India started a new Bloc (along with Indonesia, yugoslavia and Egypt) called the Non-aligned Bloc. That is why India cannot join a Bloc but will be a part of all the blocs that it thinks are good for its national interest. India talks of Multilateralism and is against domination by a single power.
India’s rise is actually a threat to China rather than the US. India is also a non aligned country that is refused to be part of military bloc like in the Cold War era. In conclusion the US is not a perfect geopolitical actor and guess what no one is but if Russia and China gets their way the world will be in a much grimmer place as the entire world will all just be an amalgamation of the neo Sino-Soviet empire. The Western alliance is needed to maintain peace and I can see India’s role as a mediator for both East and West.
Right now China purchases most of the stuff from BRICS and other friendly nations, and the U.S has lost the biggest customer already, Brazil and Russia are the biggest beneficiaries in this great reset
Bottom line: China enters the game of chess later than everyone, only in year 1976, and hence they have lesser experience and lesser trainning for chess, but China beats everyone, including the Indian. Can you beat the Chinese in the Chinese Chess at their own game? No, you couldn't. What is more impressive than being masters of their own game and masters of other's games? And what is more satisfying than beating someone at their own game?
Go is a more mind challenging game than Chess. And Chinese plays Go for more than 3000 years, only a tiny population plays Chess, mainly for entertaining purpose
Chess is not a Chinese game. And while none can defeat China, the Chinese can't defeat anyone either. That's the power of splitting the atom or fusing it. Grow up
@@randomrunner Can you beat the Chinese in the Chinese Chess at their own game? No, you couldn't. What is more impressive than being masters of their own game and masters of other's games? And what is more satisfying than beating someone at their own game? Did Chinese Ding beat the Western Chess in their own game?
@@randomrunner You need to grow up. Chinese Ding became world chess champion and beat all contestants leading up to the final match whereby the previous champion chooses to forfeit. Could you beat the Chinese in Chinese Chess? You need to grow up and understand that Chess does not simply mean Western Chess. There are Chinese Chess.
India has just won the Chess Olympiad 2024 with a historic double Gold in both the Open and Women's section and defeated China! Ding the c o w a r d did not participate!
Wow the Indian bots are desperate. Chess Olympiad is a team based sport not an Individual sport such as World Chess Championship. Chinese Ding beat India in the 2023 World Chess Championship 🤣😂
China won 201 Gold in Asian Games 2023 whereas India won 28 Gold.🤏 China won 40 Gold in Paris Olympic 2024 whereas India won zero gold.🤌 Indian brag? India's lifetime Olympic Gold = 10🤏🤌 China's lifetime Olympic Gold = 325 Current Reigning and Defending World Chess Champion is Chinese Ding who defeated all Indians/India players.
@@LandGrabbingIndia India's Olympic Gold is entirely Brits stuck in India. Not a single ethnically Indian person has won gold, not in athletics or fighting.
@@LandGrabbingIndia Ding participated in the Chess Olympiad in which India beat China and won except the final where he was facing Gukesh but he ran away. Ding will lose his title in a few months to an Indian kid half his age unless he chickens out again which would mean he forfeits his title to Gukesh. Took China almost 80 years to get a Chess Champion who won by fluke and the title lost within 3 years. India's Vishy Anand held several titles in several formats including Chess Champion for decades, some titles he still holds. The top 5 Chess Champion title holders in the World are going to be Indian kids and China isn't going to get another shot because Chess requires an actual brain.
@@LandGrabbingIndia Chicken Ding won by fluke and is losing his title in december to Gukesh. He knows it, you know it, all professional Chess players and title holders have said it already. Indian Vishy Anand first Asian Chess Champion held titles in several formats for decades and still holds some titles. Ding only 3 years and 1 player in 80 years. China isn't getting another shot at any title. Chicken Ding is all China had. There are 4 Indians among Top 10 ranking professional chess players in the world and even more among top 20 and top 30. Top 5 title holders in the world will be Indian. Bye Bye Ding Dong. Ask your c o w a r d Chinese Government to stop begging India to rescue Chinese naval andd civilian vessels and ships in the Indian Ocean. Since Indian navy rescues Chinese ships all the time XI should resign and CCP should dissolve so Modi can be China's Prime Minister too.
Only personal interests matter in geopolitics. If today US is our "ally" they were the ally of even our enemy nation Pakistan. So that trust on an ally is absent in IN-US relations. Also, India plays in the middle of every game and doesn't bend on either side. The engineers perspective is pretty accurate.
From UN website titled: "International Migration 2020 Highlights - the United Nations" ➡"India topped the list of countries with the largest diasporas in 2020, with 18 million persons from India living outside of their country of birth.⬅|ndia is exporting their unemployment problems and their unemployed "economic refugees" in millions to every part of the world, thereby, creating unemployment problems for the native people in host countries. As a result, many of the locals/natives became jobless and/or homeless.
Is India's rise good for the United States? Why or why not?
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John is mistaken about Chinese ambition in Indian Ocean...China needs to keep Indian Ocean safe for trade purposes and to be able to prevent US from cutting off this route in time of war!!! John chooses not to understand this reality!!!
*Yes, India's rise is good for the US because the Military Industrial Complex and the Deep State will have another enemy to feed on! Right now, India is nothing more than a useful idiot for the US!*
Forget about it 😂India just will not rise , never😂 dreaming is dreaming
@@weimingfeng2284someone is jealous.
According to JM's thesis, the US will also not allow India to rise.
Britain killed 4 million Indians in Bengal in 1943 by imposing a famine
That's a lie. The Indians reproduced liker ats and forget what is limited resources.
The global hunger index of India is 111 out of 125 countries. Back then, it's way worse. Do not blame others for your incompetance.
@@INDIANSARESICKMENOFASIA Perhaps you're not the best educated on the subject, or judging from your alias, you're not a particularly rational (or sane) individual yourself. The land was the same, the climatic conditions were the same, even the agriculture was the same for hundreds, even thousands of years. Yet there are no historical records of the kind of devastation that the famine under Churchill's Britain brought to Bengal. Volumes have been written on the subject, on the systematic deprivation, siphoning of resources and wealth (in other words, theft), of neglect of the growing shortage of foodgrains, of diversion of lifesaving grain to British troops in Europe, of dismissal of desperate pleas even by local British officials, based on BRITISH records, to call BS on your comment. Pick up a book, view a documentary, talk to someone who knows about the subject, before you make a fool of yourself in public like this. But you're just a troll, here with an agenda to disrupt, and waiting for an opportunity to spew some racist bile, which I expect will be your next comment.
@@INDIANSARESICKMENOFASIA Also when you learn how to read, find and read the Govt of India's response to the GHI.
Irrelevant to this topic
Since when did another country's rise good for the imperial US?
It’s not good but it beats WW3.
When did USA support other countries without own interest?
@@Gear_labs never
@@Gear_labs no country supports other countries without self interest, the USA is not an exception, it's only more powerful than the other countries
@@bogdanpopescu1401their problem is not just interest or business Benifits, they unstablise the country by creating terrorists and victim country can't even say against it.
If they want India to shoulder their problem then they should also shoulder india problems but they just care about them
India is too busy thwarting US-backed color revolutions and regime change operations within its own borders to be an "ally" to the US. India has learned first hand that infamous saying: being an enemy of the USA is dangerous, but being its friend is fatal (or something like that).
1000%
Color revolution and India when? Lmao
@@GroupHawkin Pakistan last year.. Bangladesh last month.. It was failed in India, it was not a color revolution, but to weaken(less seat) our Leader
@@prakashkr2214 stop with that bs propaganda
@@GroupHawk cope harder as u can but it can't change the fact that US tried to unstablize our government in recent election through their deepstate specifically they use NGOs , social media to spread their propaganda
If you follow JM to his logical realist conclusion, the US will not allow India to rise. End of discussion.
That is true also -- Funny part is Indian establishment knows about it .. Our Foreign office is extremely clever
You know not all of us indians believe America when they say they will help india rise. Americans can't help themselves. They expose themselves through their key stone cop routines. Support for Khalistan and kashmir , mollycoddling pakistan (india doesnt get aid, pakistan does), recent color revolutions in bangladesh. It's OK to think you are very smart and much smarter than india, we forgive you that but you seem to think indians are idiots...
@@spg6651Jai hind!!
Power can be projected by space weapons, hypersonic missiles, cyber warfare, Ai equipped drones, nuclear powered nuclear armed submarines, so regional hegemony is not necessary to have a credible deterrence.
@@alimmuhammad9275l
INDIA is the ally of 🇮🇳. Thankyou very much.
True brother 😊❤🙏🇮🇳
Say No janoo qu0ta
India is a UaS'S puppet
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If under a Indian PM/Politician
▪︎Protesting Rapes against his Govt - Sedition,Jailed
▪︎Protesting Rapes against other Govts - Allowed
▪︎Indian PM/Politician - Democratic or Fascist?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingswhere did you get misinformation.. ...?alzazeera..?
$45 Trillion was taken from India by Britain over 200 years of rule
The British Raj never happened.
@@INDIANSARESICKMENOFASIA ok tucker. Time to lay off the meth.
@@shubs3566 Ok, Pajeeet. Go easy on the Cowsberg. You are hallucinating
end ap@rth3id c@st3 syst3m .
@@INDIANSARESICKMENOFASIA look down. You are right. Your Winnie the pooh doesn't exist 😂
One difference ....China became a superpower with all the help of US and EU .... India will become a superpower with the challenges from the US and the EU
Rightly said bro...👏👏👏
Will become??? Lmao sure, tales from the deepest darkest slums of mumbai
@@darthcefeven the slum of mumbai have more gdp than some eropian countries
Shut your mouth, don't brag.
We do require western investments and technology, like semiconductors, for our development. Be pragmatic, don't sound egoistic.
For 3000 years India and China lived nextdoor without any wars. Then came Islam and later Christians...
And the communists
@@SrikanthIyerTheMariner Yes, Indo-China war happened because of the chinese communists.
First the chinese occupied Tibet and then fought for more Indian territory.
China still has issues with the Indian border and claims a big part of Indian territory.
Yeah also there was no war because both India and China lived next door to Tibet for the most part of the 3000 years and did not share a direct border...
@@rohitsonsurkar90 India china border is much bigger, Tibet doesn't cover the entire border.
Communists
Get a passport a go travel the world, should be the motto in all western schools.
I think that alone gonna open so many minds
is india really a threat for the usa? if became superpower i dont think its true because what is the issue with china the issue is in the fundamentals of china that china is expansionist, china thinks whole south and east china sea belong to him china building trade corridors that leads to trade hegemony or monopoly for china, china is not democratic, china dont advocate human rights, china dont open to the world as information not passes from china, china uses unfair trade practices, and many more strategical concerns comes with china but when we talk about then there is not that much starategical concerns come because india respect international borders, allow easy sea trade routes, always open, and ready to share the tech, has an open market, is a democracy, not a expansionist, do fair trade practices, dont hide data like the china, dont build a hegemonic monopoly in trade and etc soo there is no any particular reason for the usa to see india as threat, and they buying oil from russia or not its there personal choice to engage with countries and its a diplomatic issue with india not a strategic issue and also yess that what i wanna say that whem india is ready to share the tech with usa and develop together then why usa will see india as threat like the china? usa will not see india as a threat but will see as a strategic partner in the region to manage the middle east and china and other rising asean region in future with tech and other things
Tbh western people are the most travelled people, that's how they are in each continent, colonisation doesn't happen without travelling and travelling efficiently.
Eastern people and people outside west are generally very parochial in their mindset tbh, and I say this as someone who is not a westerner.
It's not lack of knowledge in western societies it's about not having right people at right place. You see west is the most meritocratic part of world yet they are facing these problems, then you can imagine about the rest of the world who are still fighting to secure bread, they can't even think about meritocracy or world at large.
Facts ! True .
They might still think China is a
threat once they‘ve discovered all of our capability. Maybe even more. As a Chinese I won’t risk my future on their “kindness” all of the sudden. We still have long way to go.
As an Indian let me tell you, we have been through around 300 years of divide and rule by west. We know this game too well now. John is clueless about India and China as well. Jeffrey seems to be the one with grip on reality. India can't be stopped like west did for past few centuries. No Indian trusts America, this is general public mood here. We haven't forgotten the atrocities of west for decades. Russia on the other hand we see as a reliable partner and always will. Regarding China, we want to have good relations with China. We have our disputes but we can manage them without escalation like we did for many decades. Divide and rule is too old to pull of now. We will be a superpower by end of the century.
And our vision of superpower is not same as America or China. We are not interested in global dominance of regional policeman
We wish to have a healthy and mature relationship with our Indian friends, different from the zero sum game that US is playing against China. With such a long history and facilitated civilization, we believe that the Indians should know better about politics than the childish Americans.
@@桃桃之夭 no problem. You star within your borders. Don't violate agreements. We dont come trouble you.
@@桃桃之夭 We do want good relations with China. Let's start by deescalating on borders and respecting each other's current border lines.
@@RahulSharma-dq4yr from india's point of view, why china want to have trouble on borders now? china is under a lot pressure from the US, which means the china's main focus is on the americans, and the last thing china want is to have trouble with india at this moment. china could choose other time to disturb india. there is no immediate resason for china to have conflict with india border, right? for example the conflict with phillipinos or vietnam is about the oil underneath the south china sea, if china did not act quickly, vietnam or philipinos would occupy some islands in the south china sea and claim economic zone.
what can china gain from the border conflict with india, why so urgent? I can explian the conflict from the chinese point of view. its because the india gov is a democratic system, to win a election he need vote and support. the conflict with china could gain popularity because indians will not forget the 1962 war, which is the same as chinese will never forget the japan invasion in ww2. the second reason is the india military need conflict to ask for more funding from indian gov. china political system have no such reasoning for border conflict whatsoever.
US formed an alliance with China to fight USSR before. US forms an alliance with India to fight China now. What's next?
US will form an alliance with Russia to fight India if it grows to a point that threatens US hegemony. That's John's theory or tragedy as he calls.
china America alliance to fight India😂😂
Different China. The China you were talking about is now Taiwan.
the alliance you referred to never existed. it was just normalized diplomatic relation. normalized relations with Syria brought them a civil war, with China the Tiananmen Square, a failed colored revolution for both.
@@willengel2458 that was an alliance....it was not a formal alliance like a defense treaty. it allowed China to become America's sweat shop, to make Chinese workers suffer lung disease, pollute the land, control how many kids they have and create a top heavy population of aging seniors while still unable to boost agriculture.
The problem is quite obvious and that’s the US.
Great….let’s tell the UN and the IMF to screw…..
34 trillion debt and increase by 1 trillion every 100 days .. This is the major problem requiring global reset
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎Satan said Devils/Jinns are Superior Race
▪︎Hitler said Ariens are Superior Race
▪︎Those who hold Superior/Caste Race complex
▪︎Following - God or Satan?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings The non-ashrāf Muslim castes are of three levels of status: at the top, converts from high Hindu castes, mainly Rājputs, insofar as they have not been absorbed into the Shaykh castes; next, the artisan caste groups, such as the Julāhās, originally weavers; and lowest, the converted untouchables.
Speaking of chess... India just won the FIDE world chess olympiad for both men and women, a tournament of over 130 countries.
Dude, you are embarrassing us. US and china do the beating thing by the bucketload in a variety of sports every 4 years... It's called the Olympics.
183 women (team) countries and 195 open (team) countries
As an Indian i would say "Ssshh, dont notice and dont discuss, let us evolve quietly when other players are confronting cause we cause harm to no one"😊
Yes , instead of shouting INDIA IS SUPERPOWER , let's grow like china did
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@@ebjhvgvrrvtvbbubvCompare Indian economy and infrastructure 15 years and now
where is growth?
Gonna crawl out of my butt pretty soon.
😶@@gatech5190
India and China have been living together in peace for thousands of years until the Anglo Americans came along and tried to impose their divide and conquer wet dream on the two ancient countries. Disappointment is waiting for them.
We Indians don't trust America anyway. So all his sweet talk goes in vain.
In Iraq there is an old saying from the time when the Brits "divided and rule" there. ... "If you see two fish fighting at the bottom of the Tigris River, you can know that the British have just crossed a short time ago". Today the Yanks have continued what their Brit predecessors did. They are stirring up trouble all over the world.
Divide and Rule tactics
i believe india and china only fought one skirmish during 5000 years of boarding each other! so john’s great power competition is BS. that one skirmish was a brief one, and according to both side, no atrocity was committed. it was a clean war. My roommate back in college was from india, his grandfather was in that war and saved by chinese medics and doctors after he was injured. His grandfather later became a negotiator during the 90s. my roommate said his grandfather always remembered how well he was treated and tried to bring peace between these two countries. As bad as things got notice neither side is using even rifles against each other
No it was Communism
Which divided the two great ancient civilisations.
A difference between the two: mearscheimer talks from Western angle, while Suchs tells from an international angle.
Not really... Sachs speaks from China's perspective
Sachs speaks from International Angle, not just China‘s Angle.
International Communities are fed up with Americans hegemony idealogy. Anglo-Saxon is not in charge anymre.
@@Djockzone Sachs speaks for global South
@@picnicgathering1446 mersheimer got a piece of that 1.6B budget to smear China.
I agree with you. Prof Sachs see the overall picture.
It is just a matter of time, before the US view India as a threat especially if their economy is very much better than US and if India choose not to listen to the US a lot of times, like continuing to buy more oil from Russia.
If kamala wins and vivek will probably be president next time I don't think they will harm their mother country too much
@@Jay-ro1qc
US won't accept any country fast catching up, they would be labeled as threat subsequently sabotaged and suppressed ...
We witnessed Japan in 1980 .
At that time the US will make an alliance with China to contain India.
@@Jay-ro1qc That's not true. They both will be more anti-India than any American president has ever been.
Kamala is an American, supported by Jhewish interest group.
It will be wrong if you see her as an Indian.
India's rise is good for India, every country has its self-interest. India cannot displease Russia or China. they are India's neighborhood. India has to follow its policy of non-alignment just for its survival.
True ☺️🤗😊
Nah, India rise is only for itself, never good for others. India is only known to export unemployment to every other country.
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India is not aiming for survival, it is aiming for prosperity.
We don't follow the outdated non allignment anymore, now we follow all allignment as long we have some common interests.
History has always taught us one thing, don't get too close to United States, otherwise you will suffer in the end
i m flabbergasted by how narrow the host's mind is... he lives in a shell?
he just paid to talk what on narrative bro
guiding sheeple mentality to western public.....
and continue to make US top 0.1% richer than bottom 90%
did people in US realize their bottom 90% poorer than top 0.1%? which are u guys in? top 0.1%? lol
Most of American's prof. Are real idiots.
They know. This is all drama for d dim/tools
they all do. brainwashed from birth. they don't know anything else. it's scary.
he has no clue....his mind is still in 1990's
Theoretically,any country could rise to its potential. But, the reason we are watching this debate by two Americans means Uncivilized Society of America worrying about India’s rise and become a regional power even a global power. India is vulnerable compared to China in terms of domestic racial and regional conflicts. Its political system also vulnerable for foreign interference. American inherited all the bad habits from their Anglo-Saxophone ancestors British in terms of meddling other country domestic politics. So the real question is, can India escape western influence meddling in its domestic politics and avoid racial and regional tensions escalating into violence even civil war?
YES CORRECT PLUS COLOUR REVOLUTION USA CREATING.
DUE TO THESE US DOUBLE STANDARDS IND -CHINA RESOLVED ALL ISSUE.
well said. US provokes democracy, because democracy system is easy to be influenced and intervened.
In your dream.
As an Indian from Delhi, must say you've raised a valid point. The US through its deep state is still working hard to undermine India's democracy. Frankly, majority of Indians do not trust the Americans (read the White House) and the Chinese (read everyone).
John ignores the very fact that China is the world most trading nation surpassing even the US. So sea routes freedom of navigation and security are China's weakness but of utmost important. Unlike US or its allies, staging wars and maintaining their hegemony and dominance are their long traditional means and objectives.
More countries in the world are seeing the true nature of western values and malicious nature unlike what the West wants others to believe. Even together with their non western allies or vassal states, collectively they only represent 12% of the world populations or nations. Certainly calling themselves as "The World" is already a great mistake but propaganda jargon to mislead and manipulation of the true global opinions. Just like what Prof Kishore Mahbubani's observations and interactions with other world leaders today.
The West just want to colonizes and rules the world but not by occupation of territories and with direct control. Everyone should see them vividly and openly today.
He ignores everything else except the US.
Cool view point 👍
@@meg33333i don't like USA, but i hate CCP, they invaded India and most Asian countries.. Took over Tibet, parts f Mongolia, India etc..
Very well said 👍
说得对
Started with india title but ended with the great contest of USA vs China...
UK is responsible for this chaos. If UK had step down from UNSC and give it to India then BRICS expansion could nt happen. BRICS expanding due to India.
That was a flippant answer to the question on India. That’s because the intellectuals are clueless about India. What they know about it is what the British colonials have written about it. They haven’t studied India, for them India is still a dependent state teetering towards anarchy. Their gaze doesn’t go beyond Europe and China. Rest of the world doesn’t exist. What wisdom can come out from their minds?
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You are right! They think they know what they are talking about! They don’t! Spewing lot of word salad. The decline of the west is fact, and they don’t seem to understand. Post Brexit UK is done! Of course, they still believe they still rule the world. I wouldn’t lose any sleep over what Jefferey Sachs or Herscemeir say. Jefferey may be a big shot in his circle. It makes no difference to India. We have capable Dr. J who will run circles around Jeffery! It is typical WHITE MAN SYNDROME!!!
Jeffrey is right in every aspect according to my own understanding...viewer from India
India might not be an ally of US as per western terms but India certainly wants a long term good relationship with US where each other's security concerns are taken care of, where trade plays the major role and people are not fragmented by narrow domestic walls.
India wants same with China as well. Long term good relationship focused on trade.
It's such a generic thing.
US state dept is the biggest roadblock in terms of any long term relationships with their cold war regime change mentality.
India can get along with China...
But Pakistan...there is too much bad blood..of the partition...and continued support of anti India forces
How do you know? You the foreign secretary or something? How do you know the Indian state is not sponsoring shady stuff in neighborhood countries too. It is not like any country would make such data public.
@@holdmybeer123 🤣
I disagree. India can never get along with China. Maybe we ll make peace with Pakistan someday when their is true democracy established in Pak but it ll never happen with China. It ll always be our enemy. Iam sure of that
The reason is ideological for that.
@@holdmybeer123I think he knows more about it than you do. At least allow us indians to know more about our own views than you western arm chair generals.
It sure seems like Pro. Jeffrey Sachs is the only one on stage that understands what’s really going on here.
No he doesn't... He's just pro-china
The others might understand but chose the anti-China narrative. US govt has 1.6 billion $ reward for propagandists
he just wants to return to Bush era policies for China, he doesn't understand how geopolitics doesn't follow economics of ivy league Schools.
is india really a threat for the usa? if became superpower i dont think its true because what is the issue with china the issue is in the fundamentals of china that china is expansionist, china thinks whole south and east china sea belong to him china building trade corridors that leads to trade hegemony or monopoly for china, china is not democratic, china dont advocate human rights, china dont open to the world as information not passes from china, china uses unfair trade practices, and many more strategical concerns comes with china but when we talk about then there is not that much starategical concerns come because india respect international borders, allow easy sea trade routes, always open, and ready to share the tech, has an open market, is a democracy, not a expansionist, do fair trade practices, dont hide data like the china, dont build a hegemonic monopoly in trade and etc soo there is no any particular reason for the usa to see india as threat, and they buying oil from russia or not its there personal choice to engage with countries and its a diplomatic issue with india not a strategic issue and also yess that what i wanna say that why india is ready to share the tech with usa and develop together then why usa will see india as threat like the china? usa will not see india as a threat but will as a strategic partner in the region to manage the middle east and china and other rising asean region in future with tech and other things
Zelenskyy did not read Anglo-Saxon history.
One up for Jrffrey Sachs and one down for John Measheimer.
ok CCP boy
@@bogdanpopescu1401 hooi ciabot
@@bogdanpopescu1401 hi, robot created by 1.6Billion
@@sinoleao hi, I was cheaper than that
@@bogdanpopescu1401
Simple Simon, nothing more to pen. Just robot in, robot out!
Months before WW2 ended, US already had in their mind that their NEXT big enemy was USSR.
So now what's in the mind of US. Who will be their NEXT big enemy if they really succeed to defeat China in the years to come. Is it India. Will US allow India to grow its economy to a point like China today.
To a point it has helped China grow. And this tells a lot about the American foresightful foreign policy. These guys always do short term patch work
Take a guess who help Taliban and Bin laden to rise to power in the first place.
The mighty, yet stupid CIA. 😂
The west needs to understand the world is big enough for all of us. Anyone's success can raise all of us.
Thank God Prof. Sachs for your wisdom and good sense!
All britisher cying in corners after listening name india
UK rule: Lord Salisbury said India was there for us to bleed....
Sad.
Everybody rise should be good for everybody. Good for trading . good for business.
Not really - In order to maintain quality of life of westerner countries , some of the countries have to sufer -- Those are caleld 3rd world countries most of which are there in Africa .. capitalism is another name for feudalism
@@spg6651 no, they don't, you are wrong; 3rd world countries suffer because of their terrible governments
@@bogdanpopescu1401 bad governance by design -- Western interference is there to support bad governance -- How ?. for example some African countries have Oil reserves -- Western country will exploit the situation by pocketing the authorities through inducement so that they can easily tap that oil reserve through some obscure International or some treaty or some such things which only favors those developed nation. It is happening continuously for last 50 years -- Things are now getting changed and hence we see turmoil across globe -- This change will yield better quality of life for those who sufered in the past .. Let us see
Do you think the West has anything but their self interest in mind
India too wishes a great partnership and relationship with US.
But US think tank and policy makers must understand two facts
1. India cannot be used as a puppet like Pakistan or Zelenskyy
2. Purchasing Power Parity of India. Indian upper middle class club is having higher purchasing power than any of developed countries in Europe
Olrighty jeet
Why u immigrating to canada and uk then
So much for superpower endia
@@Chiga-lt6vq Yes. Very important question.
I too have wondered many times, why they are doing it to falling economies like UK.
My answer is better working culture.
In India , still , employees are being over used in corporate sector.
GDP/ per capita income is very less in India, because of its huge population. Leave Indian coglemeres , if you take about Indian middle class club, it’s as huge as the entire population of many developed countries in Europe and their average income slso not below than 20 to 30 percent of average income of those countries.
Upper middle class club in India is having more advantage than that of those developed countries because of price parity. Still why they are moving out? Answer is better working culture
Jeffrey so well understands India
China and India do have conflicts. Does anybody remember how they fought the last time on the border only a few years ago? Let me remind the world: they fought with fist and rock. They do know how to fight WWIV, so they skipped WWIII.
😂😂😂
There is an agreement between India and China that no lethal weapons can be used, so they fought with sticks and rocks
Jeffrey Sachs only make sence not bias of his opinion
In a Piers Morgan interview,when asked, American Sachs can't say anything good about the US.
There are 5 highly intelligent persons on the stage but there is only one wise man! You know who he is!
Thank God for Prof. Sachs’’ understanding of China as well as his profound insight of what it means to be in the nuclear world. There needs to be an update in our beliefs to NOT end in mutual destruction. And to change our beliefs may be what it takes to survive nuclear age.
USA ready to spread democracy in India 😂
The host is so dedicated to his anti China mindset he can barely contain his prejudices during the entire interview
When he mentioned Xi is self destructing, both guests were like huh ?
Right now, India still makes America feel better about herself, till she doesn’t.
@@Blixey-r9z the US will unseat Modi or any PM if they continue to pursue non alliance tradition, and I have a bad feeling that the US has high chance of prevailing because it has endless resources because of its reserve currency. Good luck to you.
@@xinfuxia3809 busy shoehorning issue 😡
@@Lululemon2023 the US likes India because Indians are smart and industrious but easy to divide and subjugate as a nation (thanks to their religious, cultural & linguistic diversity and caste system). The income inequality in India is even worse than the US. Their inability to organise and work as a collective makes India much less of a threat . That is how the British ruled India with only 100,000 British for many years.
The Americans have a poor track record of foreign policy since WW2!
It’s because Truman was given the key of the British empire after ww2… It was the moment the US foreign policy flipped and became about maintaining and expanding what the British started.
J.Sachs facial expression... 😃
I want to go home and get out of here... 🤣🤣🤣
An ally is not that surrenders to your thought process , the alliance is subjective .
👍👍👍 prof Sachs‼️👏👏👏
well as a Chinese, i always say i may not know about India, but i can definitely imagine how Indian view the west given our similar history dealing with them😂.
also, i find Indian are very proud people, and to be an ally of America basically means a lapd*g of America, Indian think we are the big brother！ therefore its impossible to expect India to be an “ally”😂
It just shows how delusional some western policymakers are😂
India and China should start long term relationship agreement
Some thing is burning 😂
@@rajibchakroborthy4181 bhai delete karde
The global Indian diaspora will likely experience a sense of pride as India continues its trajectory of growth and development. 🕉🙏🏽❤️✨️
India knows American intentions very well.
Even the very common people of india understand that.
Asians should be united, not divided
Tell that to china
India doesn't want to rule. Our ambitions are not very big.
Pls read manifesto of BJP claiming greater Hindustan (Akhand Bharat)
That has Pakistan, Afhanistan to Malaysia Indonesia territory of Akhand Bharat
@@khalidmehmood1438 don't talk rubbish, show me the manifesto.
@@khalidmehmood1438we don't care much now except pakistan growing even less by the day, especially no one even talks about ASEAN nations. Don't spread misinformation or propaganda just because 1 person out of billion said it.
@@khalidmehmood1438 Everyday we pray for Pakistanis to be so happy that they can't be bothered about India.
@@khalidmehmood1438 I read the manifesto. There is no mention of Malaysia, Indonesia, Hindustan, Akhand Bharat . People in India don't vote over delusional fantasies 😂 .
Misleading title for the clicks. This was more about China than India
YES.
India doesnt have allies.
India had just good relations ❤
One of the players on the chessboard!! I say, we invented damn thing, surely know how the game is played!!! 😂😂
War especially nuclear war can avoided if US citizens elect sensible, uncorrupted people in Government and Congress.
Democracy is US is a joke.
Its like the only two big supermarkets in town, and you think you have freedom to choose, to bargain and boycott each other among these two.
But you never realised both supermarkets were own by the same Jhewish boss. 😆😂
The boss will make decisions, reap profits and don‘t care your opinion.
War was never avoided in the cold war... It was just happening everywhere else other than USA and Soviet.
Jeffrey Sachs has a very clear vision of the world….India has to tread very carefully in the geopolitical maze but John is right we have Cina trying to create tensions in the Himalayas while the us is trying to create Col our revolution to stop Indias progress
When other countries like India, China, Russia etc are progressing well, why is it a threat to America????
Jeffrey is teaching some primary school boys some world lessons...
Hi all, as a 45 year old who has a couple of indian neighboring friends in China and Hong Kong and a father of three kids, let me share some of my observation, China's been through what is currently going on in India back in 20th century, the rises of China and India are only stoppable until Chinese and Indians wanted no more. Period.
America was discovered by Columbus accidentally while searching for a sea route to India.
I Just love professor sachs!
Make me one thing clear india is not an ally of USA...... India aspire to be equal and respectful partnership with US
India and China share a civilizational bond stretching for 8000 years! Do any of the speakers here have a clue? Well, I do. I grew up in India, studied Engineering and Sanskrit, learned the history of the region, and am a Hindu. The Chinese have been India’s holder of civilizational values from the pre-Mandarin period, when Vedic practices were captured in writing by Chinese scholars. The spread of Buddhism form India to China has further strengthened the bonds. The present skirmish along the McMahon Line in the Himalayas is a flash in the pan and won’t last, in fact, apparently a cease fire has been called. What do you think?
India is unpredicted ally of those who can somehow help to maintain world peace and save each and every precious life on earth. How can people of this earth be killer of each other. No amount of enmity is so large to ignore peace. Peace should always be given chance
US not so long ago had sanctions against India.
India has Jaishankar ❤, USA has 🤡
Rise of India is very good for India, at the same it's good for world too given the power you can sleep peacefully at night India will not harm in anyway until and unless poked at!!
The "great" Jeffrey Sachs was the one who after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 lectured to the Russians that "you can only learn swimming by getting in at the deep end", thereby advocating harsh immediate market reforms which the USA pushed hard and resulted in the impoverishment of millions of Russians. Sachs later admitted that he was wrong, that Glasnost should have preceded Perestroika, not the other way round.
India is playing on both sides for its economic and strategic gains. According to John, India is a friend of America and a member of QUAD. But what John didn't say is that India is not even participating in "Freedom for navigation operations" in the South china sea, which raises a doubt about whether India wants to be a true friend of the US. India is also expected to reach the bilateral trade with Russia to $100 billion by 2030, which is another audacious and excellent move in diplomacy that would help India strengthen both its economy and military whose more than 50% of weaponry is of Russian origin.
In terms of military competition between china and India, china is leading the race. But sometimes you also need military experience which China lacks while India had been at war with Pakistan four times, and the deft military maneuvers of the Indian army in Jammu and Kashmir against insurgency clearly delineates how the Indian army has been evolving with time.
E bhai pol mat khol 😂
That's actually a very fair review and a great opinion on your behalf.
Why people always talk about China’s lack of military experience…as if they intentionally forget the sino-India affair of 1962…The China-NATO affairs in Korean and Vietnam. All these events happened when they were the No 53rd economy …
AFAIK: The US supplies Pak with India specific arms every time there is a chance for peace. (US taxpayers pay!) The US has wanted Kashmir since '46: Pakistan is only being used by calling its attacks 'jihad'. Rich Paks get US favours, poor ones die on the border.
You seem to have missed some international news. India is part of the freedom of navigation operations, and has conducted navigation in that part of the ocean. Otherwise your observations are on the point.
I am saving this video. We should take it up with the naive/deluded/copium ingesting host (guy on farthest left) 10 years from now.
China has a population decline problem, but so as Japan, S.Korea, India and entire Western World.
But China doesn‘t have immigration problem.
Lastly, Apple has move back to China from India. 😀
Absolutely correct! Foxconn has started moving its manufacturing back to China because of India’s lousy infrastructures and labor challenges.
As an indian, I understand the macro level enthusiasm around India. But at the very micro level, India still struggles majorly
couldn't have said it better. we must first focus on the elevation of a vast majority of our population from poverty. India's situation now is similar to that of tsarist russia, where the country as a whole was a formidable force, but from inside it was poor and broken. Getting entangled in these big power games does not do us any good. Lets look inwards first and settle the problems at home.
@@user_98734 well, to put it simply even further- India is failed society and polity but not a failed state
@@jays5186 it's neither lol Stringing together a couple buzzwords doesn't automatically make a statement true. It must be visible (which it's not).
Sachs went HAM during this entire talk. Like a comment said, Mearsheimer here was a great American, but Sachs was a great human being.
The question:1) is Russias raise good for us.? 2) is Chinas raise good for us? 3) is middle easts rise good for us? 4) is African continent s rise good for us? 5) is europes rise good for us? 6) is asian continents rise good for us? 7) is Britains raise good for us? 8) is Australias raise good for us? Now my friend ask the question is India's raise good for us? Combined ans NO.
you ppl always want that other will work under you! That's not gonna happen we Indian had seen how the American and EU treated us in past! So we r not gonna do same mistakes again at any cost! We will do everything for our interest!
Such an appalling and insecure question in this day and age. Why think that the rise of one country is going to be bad for another? There are ongoing wars at any given time around the world due such backward thinking. This is not how leaders think. This is not how we want to influence the future leaders to think. Instead consider how all of us can unite on all fronts for the betterment of humanity and sustainment of our planet.
This is true but humans are tribal by nature. If humanity ever wants to become a type one civilization we need to go beyond tribal thinking.
India looks good right now because, non hindus are not majority here yet. We still have a progressive PM who works for growth and development of the nation.
Come 2029, all this would change. In fact we were lucky that it did not happen in 2024 and missed by a whisker.
Hope not
Every country should look after their development rather than wondering who is good for them or not.
Both are great!
My view is that as countries grow richer, they grow softer. Nobody, specifically democracies, will have the stomach for war.
No rich parent wants their child to die for some megalomaniacal ambition of the leader.
But mindsets have to evolve. Us vs Them thinking has to go. Unless there is mutual trust, real change is difficult.
Except china?
@@isacr4063chianti isn't a liberal democracy.
Hmm ..Sachs sounds very much like Chinese diplomat 🙄
Thats bacause Chinese diplomats always make more sense than Western diplomats.
Looks like you need to finish your high school first
True. His apologia for xi's aggression against Asia, Japan, India, South Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia is abominable.
@@AnAn-yn7yd
Nobody in Asia views China as an aggressor, unlike the United Snakes... you are delusional.
@@blackknight4996 Why? Are high-schoolers in your town pro-china too? 🙂
Assembling iphone in India. Not manufacturing. They still need to import the components.
China does it too.
China imports bulk of components. Get some actual research done.
But chineese do the same 😂
It can be argued That assembling not manufacturing happens in China too
The factor you should be looking at is how much of the components are localised
@@rajibchakroborthy4181 But Indians beg for more of "made in china" after the Galwan brawl while talking tough?🤣😂Check import data from 2020 to 2024?😅
3 babies policy for kids in CHINA can change every thing.having a3 baby each house hold shall stabilize the whole Chinese population
This sounds great on the surface but nearly impossible in current scenario. The living cost in China has risen to all-time high, it's difficult to raise a single child let alone 2/3 kids. Yes the govt can introduce some beneficiary programs or subsidies to couples having multiple kids but will that amount ever come par to the lifelong expenditure that parents will have to bear? NO. With currents economic trends Chinese economy can't afford such programs
China (and the world) does not need more people right now. China seems to be doing well and I am happy for the Chinese!
We can aim for decreasing uncontrolled growth while improving goods and services worldwide and raising ALL kids nicely.
brilliant, "that's another illusion in Washington. they should get a passport and see the world." BRILLIANT 🎉
How to make India as an ally to US…?
There comes an X factor and that’s Russia.
With a simple stroke, US can have two allies. Solution is
BRING RUSSIA UNDER NATO UMBRELLA…!
US was having some misconceptions, rather I must say double standards in approaching issues. Yes, sometimes it’s required too. But many times, they play it unnecessarily.
Sometimes they used to say about democratic values. But they aided Pakistan, though it was an autocratic state and neglected India which is the largest democracy in the world.
So coming to the point, how to bring Russia in NATO!!!. US need an enemy in Europe to make their supremacy among European countries, that’s Russia. First US has to come out of that mindset. Then allow Russia to satisfy its wounded ego by capturing Ukraine land as large as they can within a time frame. Then bring UN to implement a ceasefire. So Russia will be happy. Then implement a peace accord between Russia and Ukraine. Along with this move , make Russia a member of Europe. US should not fall in the trap of political ambitions of Zelenskyy.
Russia is little bit dependent on China now. India is trying hard to delay that dependence. If Russia & China are united, then it will be a problem for US allies also. So Russia has to be in NATO while they can have economic ties with China like any other European countries.
For that Trump has to come. Trump knows what should be the interest of US in long run
Jeff is wrong about China.
People who have had border clashes with China (china’s expansionist policy) know what they are talking about.
Jeff talks only about Economics and he does not consider the implications on national securities of respective countries and why they feel the need to contain China.
Facts
In late last century, white British Raj only needed 100K soldiers to colonize a 300mils India. Moreover, 1.2mils even fought WW2 in Europe and elsewhere to maintain British empire. What's India's attitude or behavior today will not surprise anyone regardless whether India will remain, siding or fighting for any parties or even flip-flopping between the rivalry camps.
Lies again. 30K British troops subdued the entire 300mils India. 100K is from your Bollywood scripts to make India look strong.
There were hundreds of thousands of Brits not just 100K. Yes, they were a minority but had support a class of Indians. Indians served Brits and ruled over other Indians for Brits. Also, not whole of India was under British rule as entities like Nepal,etc. remained independent of British rule and presence. British India itself was a conglomerate and much of it consisted Princely States. India is a diverse country. A great ancient civilizational nation. Case of pre-colonial India was to some extent like pre-1870-71 Germany and Italy. Nation and national identity indeed existed but it wasn't cohesive and took time for achieving political consolidation. Now Pakistan and Isl..mic separatism, are a different subject....
Because the damn brïts had guns and gunboats. Now everyone has them too
India was under Muslim occupation and brutal conquest that is why the British were able to exploit this weakness and colonise India
@@peanut0brain Others were also having guns and gunboats. Brits weren't the only ones in the world to possess such weapons. Get yourself a good book on military history...
The guest interrupting Sachs was cringe….the man is a legend of economics for crying out loud! Let him speak!
end ap@rth3id c@st3 syst3m ....
The reality is that India is a rising power irrespective of whether it's good for the US. And there's very little that the US could do about it other than partner with India. While the US looks at it through the China prism alone, India sees itself as an upcoming global player with a huge population to look after. Nevertheless it will be unwise for the US to expect a Pakistan-style tie up where the former had a regime-specific approach with no longer term commitment.
West, especially US, has wanted only lapdogs, not allies. It was India's first Prime Minister Nehru who once famously said that India was too big to be anyone's lapdog!
Therein lies the problem.
India has an independent streak when it comes to foreign policy. Instead of joining either of the blocs during the Cold War, India started a new Bloc (along with Indonesia, yugoslavia and Egypt) called the Non-aligned Bloc.
That is why India cannot join a Bloc but will be a part of all the blocs that it thinks are good for its national interest. India talks of Multilateralism and is against domination by a single power.
ONLY HINDUISM CAN SAVE THE WORLD ! ❤️🙏🕉️🙏❤️
In this discussion panel, other than Prof. Sachs, the rest are just like 3 year old kindergarteners 😂
India’s rise is actually a threat to China rather than the US. India is also a non aligned country that is refused to be part of military bloc like in the Cold War era. In conclusion the US is not a perfect geopolitical actor and guess what no one is but if Russia and China gets their way the world will be in a much grimmer place as the entire world will all just be an amalgamation of the neo Sino-Soviet empire. The Western alliance is needed to maintain peace and I can see India’s role as a mediator for both East and West.
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The host is extremely ignorant. Everything is others fault, America is the guardian of justice
Right now China purchases most of the stuff from BRICS and other friendly nations, and the U.S has lost the biggest customer already, Brazil and Russia are the biggest beneficiaries in this great reset
Sachs looks like it's paid by China!😅😅
Bottom line: China enters the game of chess later than everyone, only in year 1976, and hence they have lesser experience and lesser trainning for chess, but China beats everyone, including the Indian. Can you beat the Chinese in the Chinese Chess at their own game? No, you couldn't. What is more impressive than being masters of their own game and masters of other's games? And what is more satisfying than beating someone at their own game?
Go is a more mind challenging game than Chess. And Chinese plays Go for more than 3000 years, only a tiny population plays Chess, mainly for entertaining purpose
Chess is not a Chinese game. And while none can defeat China, the Chinese can't defeat anyone either. That's the power of splitting the atom or fusing it. Grow up
@@randomrunner Can you beat the Chinese in the Chinese Chess at their own game? No, you couldn't. What is more impressive than being masters of their own game and masters of other's games? And what is more satisfying than beating someone at their own game? Did Chinese Ding beat the Western Chess in their own game?
@@randomrunner You need to grow up. Chinese Ding became world chess champion and beat all contestants leading up to the final match whereby the previous champion chooses to forfeit. Could you beat the Chinese in Chinese Chess? You need to grow up and understand that Chess does not simply mean Western Chess. There are Chinese Chess.
@@ShitSkinsIndian You following the latest in Chess? India is World #1 in both men and women chess that happened in Budapest.
India has just won the Chess Olympiad 2024 with a historic double Gold in both the Open and Women's section and defeated China! Ding the c o w a r d did not participate!
Wow the Indian bots are desperate. Chess Olympiad is a team based sport not an Individual sport such as World Chess Championship. Chinese Ding beat India in the 2023 World Chess Championship 🤣😂
China won 201 Gold in Asian Games 2023 whereas India won 28 Gold.🤏
China won 40 Gold in Paris Olympic 2024 whereas India won zero gold.🤌
Indian brag?
India's lifetime Olympic Gold = 10🤏🤌
China's lifetime Olympic Gold = 325
Current Reigning and Defending World Chess Champion is Chinese Ding who defeated all Indians/India players.
@@LandGrabbingIndia India's Olympic Gold is entirely Brits stuck in India. Not a single ethnically Indian person has won gold, not in athletics or fighting.
@@LandGrabbingIndia Ding participated in the Chess Olympiad in which India beat China and won except the final where he was facing Gukesh but he ran away. Ding will lose his title in a few months to an Indian kid half his age unless he chickens out again which would mean he forfeits his title to Gukesh. Took China almost 80 years to get a Chess Champion who won by fluke and the title lost within 3 years. India's Vishy Anand held several titles in several formats including Chess Champion for decades, some titles he still holds. The top 5 Chess Champion title holders in the World are going to be Indian kids and China isn't going to get another shot because Chess requires an actual brain.
@@LandGrabbingIndia Chicken Ding won by fluke and is losing his title in december to Gukesh. He knows it, you know it, all professional Chess players and title holders have said it already. Indian Vishy Anand first Asian Chess Champion held titles in several formats for decades and still holds some titles. Ding only 3 years and 1 player in 80 years. China isn't getting another shot at any title. Chicken Ding is all China had. There are 4 Indians among Top 10 ranking professional chess players in the world and even more among top 20 and top 30. Top 5 title holders in the world will be Indian. Bye Bye Ding Dong.
Ask your c o w a r d Chinese Government to stop begging India to rescue Chinese naval andd civilian vessels and ships in the Indian Ocean. Since Indian navy rescues Chinese ships all the time XI should resign and CCP should dissolve so Modi can be China's Prime Minister too.
Only personal interests matter in geopolitics. If today US is our "ally" they were the ally of even our enemy nation Pakistan. So that trust on an ally is absent in IN-US relations. Also, India plays in the middle of every game and doesn't bend on either side. The engineers perspective is pretty accurate.
From UN website titled: "International Migration 2020 Highlights - the United Nations" ➡"India topped the list of countries with the largest diasporas in 2020, with 18 million persons from India living outside of their country of birth.⬅|ndia is exporting their unemployment problems and their unemployed "economic refugees" in millions to every part of the world, thereby, creating unemployment problems for the native people in host countries. As a result, many of the locals/natives became jobless and/or homeless.