Capturing plugin chains with the Quad Cortex
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2022
- This is the first video in a series I will be making about how to use your audio interface and DAW to create Captures on the Quad Cortex. This video is meant to help people get into making Captures with an standardized template that clears up a lot of confusion and allows you to spend time making an awesome tone with no messing around.
Enjoy making excellent Captures!
You can download the Ableton Live set here:
drive.google.com/file/d/1ZxUS...
"JZ gain test 1" Quad Cortex preset:
neuraldsp.com/cloud/p/3cab63ac-9d06-4868-b745-5000c27cfad4
"JZ Go2" Capture:
neuraldsp.com/cloud/p/95864dea-819a-42bd-95a2-14c9abe2a310
To get the IR that I used in the video, download the demo for the Will Putney JST amp sim and you will get a couple folders of some pretty good IRs. The one you are looking for is called "05 Ascendants IR" and it will be located in Documents\STL\Tonality\Will Putney\IRs\3 Album Guitar Tones IRs
joeysturgistones.com/collecti... 
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Holy crap man, I've been trying to figure out how to capture my UAD plugins and tones with my Apollo x4 and QC using Logic for over a month (seems sooooooo much longer). You are the man bro, and THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!
Kick ass! Hope the captures go well!
Glad someone else is using TrueIron. That's a nice little beef-it-up plug for guitars and drums!
Its a great saturator. Hard to explain but its like... clean?... but still thick?... saturation?
Be sure to share this on Ableton Advanced community.
Yeah, I guess they might enjoy seeing the hardware implementation!
This might sound silly, but should i use stereo cable or a normal instrument cable for going from the out of the second interface into the input of the quad? Should it all be stereo trs cables?
I think either would work just fine. I know what you mean about a "stereo cable" (its actually called a "balanced" cable). The output of your audio interface is balanced and so is the input of the Quad Cortex, so it should be fine. But honestly, an "unbalnced" (mono TS 1/4" cable) should also work the exact same.
Also, sorry I missed this comment for a month!
I tried to download the Ableton Live Set from the link in the description but it said that it's no longer available :(
Yeah, sorry... its gone. I cleaned up my Google drive and deleted a bunch of stuff. You can see whats going on in the video, though. Sorry!
Great Video and explanation, I only have a IRig Pro Duo with 2 inputs and 2 outputs can i still capture my plugins with this the Universal Audio Apollo x4 is abit costly for my needs.
Would the routing be any differant.
Thanks
You can definitely do this with 2 ins and 2 outs. You would have to choose which part of the signal chain you want to exclude. If your IRig has an independent headphone output that can listen to the "master output" while your 2 "regular" outputs can send totally different, independent signals, then you can actually pull all of this off. Im not sure how the iRig works, though. You might not be able to differentiate between headphone outs and the "main" outs.
You def dont need an Apollo for this to work. Just follow the same signal path that Im doing and get as far along as you can. If you have to remove one thing from the signal path, I would eliminate the first part: the guitar DI loops. Instead, just play your guitar manually while you mess around with the sounds inside your DAW. If that doesnt suit you, you can skip the last stage, where the IR sits, and just do your captures with the IR baked into them or simply disable the IR right before you hit the "create capture" button. Its going to be a little different than how I have it set up in the video but that should give you what you need.
@@jasonzdora yeh the IRIg duo has two guitar instrumental 1/4' inputs , 2x balanced 1/4" outs and a headphone output which I guess is just a master output .
@@mbadge2477 What I mean is, can you differentiate between the headphone output and the pair of balanced outputs? Where you send one signal to the headphones and a different signal to the pair of 1/4" balanced outputs.
@@jasonzdora I'm not sure I can do that with the IRig duo I think the headphone output is just same as the two 1/4" outputs
@@mbadge2477 In that case, your best bet will be the following:
Guitar > QC Return 1 > QC Send 1(or Capture Out) > iRig Input 1 > DAW (this is where you make your FX chain that you want to capture) > iRig Output 1 > QC Input 1 > QC Output 1 > iRig Input 2 > DAW (this is where you add the IR for your personal monitoring) > iRig Output 2
With this, you will only be able to listen to output 2 of the iRig in order to hear your signal chain. So that would be the only output from the iRig that is connected to the speakers in your room.
Let me know if this makes sense.
shared:)
Do you share any captures on the Cortex Cloud? If so, what's your user name? Thanks!
Hey Matthew! I have links in the description of the video. I have some other stuff available on my profile as well. Check out the other 2 videos in this series to get some other captures Ive done!
User: JZ1978
I would like to make a capture of that Dumble amp plugin made from Joe Bonamassa’s amp
Go for it!
@@jasonzdora I just got the quad cortex, and I have a Soundcraft impact SI mixer that also acts as my interface. So all my routing is going to be a little bit different. I really love the plugins on this too.
ruclips.net/video/Bhiv93L64Z4/видео.html
@@mightymikeamps9317 Cool, man! Get into it!
@@jasonzdora It’s a lot to wrap my head around as far as the routing goes. Hopefully I can get it to work
@@mightymikeamps9317 Best of luck, brother! Just take your time and think it through. You will learn the most by just trying it and seeing what happens. Its ok to make mistakes. Learn from them and try again with your new knowledge. Thats how I do it!
File does not exist?
Yeah, sorry. I had to clean up my Google Drive to fit a large project and I deleted a bunch of stuff. You should be able to recreate what you see on screen. Unfortunately, I dont have the live set anymore.
I think this might be outdated since the cortex update… The capturing process seems to be different
Yes, it is outdated since the latest update. I may make a new video with some shorter segments (cuz this video is really long and meandering).
@@jasonzdora yesss plz do, I’m still trying to figure out how to do it with the new process
@@iszlu The signal flow is the same. You just need to use the correct inputs and outputs.
@@jasonzdora can I schedule a zoom call with u for a quick lesson?
@@iszlu Sorry man. All the information is there, you just have to think about it.
Subsubsubssubs im still confuse with the cable routing, 😅
Just follow the pictures and use the inputs and outputs of your audio interface. Which interface do you own?
@@jasonzdora damn, i thought last night I’ve been replying this, lol, I’ve got Apogee Duet, too bad, it doesn’t have input 3, that’s why im confuse, its the input 3 that I can’t follow, forgive my confuse sir 🥳🥳🥳🥳
@@fikardam No worries, brother! IF you are only dealing with 2 inputs you can still do this! Just need to do it in 2 steps.
Step 1 - record some guitar DI loops. This is done before ever touching the Quad Cortex. Just get a couple good guitar loops going and when you are done with that, you can put the guitar away. Meaning, you no longer need that input1 for your guitar. Just use the loops that are in your DAW instead.
Step 2 - Set up the QC and your Duet. I assume you have one of the "breakout" devices for your Duet but Im not sure. Either way, you will need to figure out where you want to listen to the end results (the end of the signal chain). It looks like the Duet has independent headphones outputs and "main" outputs. You will need the "main" outputs to connect to the QC and you will likely need to listen to the end results (the output of your DAW) on headphones. Im not sure if thats possible, though, because I dont own a Duet.
So the signal chain will remain the exact same as it is on my video. You just need to figure out how to route your inputs and outputs so they go in a correct signal path (just like the signal path I show in my video).
Loops in DAW > Duet Output1 > QC Return1 > QC Send1 (QC sends the Capture signal here) > Duet Input1 > DAW (make your cool guitar sound here) > Duet Output2 > QC Input1 (QC does the capturing computations here) > QC Output1 > Duet Input2 > DAW (put your IR here) > Duet Headphones out (so you can hear the end results.
I hope this makes sense! Again, Im not sure if the Duet has independent headphones and "main" outputs or not. If it does, this will work :)
@@fikardam If the Duet does not have independent headphone outputs and main outputs, you can do this another way. This will exclude the guitar DI loops and will require you to simply plug your guitar into Return1 of the QC. You will have to play guitar and mess with the plugins at the same time. This is fine but it requires a bit more fuss and concentration on three things at once (play guitar, adjust plugins, adjust Quad Cortex).
For this setup, I would do the following signal path:
Guitar > QC Return1 > QC Send1 (this sends the Capture algorithm sounds) > Duet Input1 > DAW (make cool guitar tone here) > Duet Output1 > QC Input1 (this listens to the finalized Capture sounds and makes the Capture) > QC Output 1 > Duet Input2 > DAW (this is where you put your Impulse Response) > Duet Output2 (you can hook this up to one of your speakers/monitors and listen to the results. It will be mono but it will work!
@@jasonzdora hello, sorry for the late reply, thank you for your kindness, I’ll be follow the exact path like your explanation, I’ll try figure it out next weekend, and once again, thank you sir, you are truly a kind person, may all your day are blessing day sir, God Bless, btw since my english are not so good, sorry for kind a lame replying 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 lav yaaaaaaa yiiihhhaaawwwww 😁😁😁😁😀😀😀😀