I'm a Sony owner and what's annoying is we are supposed to rejoice on super basic upgrades... This is a video camera and still no shutter angle ... so annoying... I couldn't be that hard for them to throw it in ... I personally would get better use of shutter angle with the a7siii then the fx3 because I use this camera for more b roll type shots when needing the view finder in bright situations, so I constantly go back n forth with frame rates 24 to 60 fps.. at this point I would pay for shutter angle on this camera lol !
Hey Tom, thanks for the video and explanation! Quick question - what about some of the issues other people report? Have you experienced reduced battery performance or more-than-the-usual warming up of the camera (or anything else)? I am really hesitant to update, having heard some people say "I wish I could revert the update".
I’m actually working on a video update. The only thing I experienced was a decrease in battery life. Everything else including autofocus has been normal
So I've been following your journey with how this camera is now failing because of the updates. In this video it seems like everything was fine. Was it okay in the beginning and later started to malfunction or did you make this video fairly early before you actually got to take it out in the field to put it through it's paces? Just curious because mine seems to be fine, but I would hate to find out that it's not while on a job.
So mine was 100% fine including the Bluetooth/wifi before 3.00. Then the Bluetooth and wifi failed. Then after 3.01 I started noticing overheating and autofocus issues. Then after 3.02, memory card issues, freezing, and lost all internal and 3.5mm audio
I was happy to see the focus peaking available for video, and ability to make it thicker. Was using it and then it sort of dissapeared, became hard to see.
Yeah, the Mac upgrade thing is nuts. The best thing it seems to do there was find a person with a PC AND UPGRADE FROM THEM. I had the not connecting or Bluetooth and Wi-Fi not working thing happen to me as well. I’m happy with the updates, but the animal eye autofocus isn’t fixed. I eventually got the Bluetooth and Wi-Fi to work by taking the battery out waiting 2-5 minutes which turned out to be ten since I was eating and getting ready for work. I put the battery back in the camera and I went into the menu and reset the camera back to factory again and my Wi-Fi and Bluetooth came back on and I’m able to use that app. I don’t know if this will work for everyone and yes I had the swipe issue as well that is gone now. I’m also seeing it hard to see with the A6700, Fx3 ZVE1 series and Fx30, how they can continue with a A7S line. I think the smart thing to do is create a good EV to work in the hot shoe going forward and call it a day. I’m not ungrateful for the updates that we got here, but considering that the only difference between the Fx3 and A7SIII is the handle for $400, it really should have been more considering the cameras have the same internals, except the fan and the EVF. I would like one more big update to include shutter angle, eye autofocus in video, the Cine EI mode menu and they can discontinue it as this camera has reached Sony’s 4 year upgrade or discontinued cycle, putting fans in all official cinema cameras going forward. Then there is no need for a A7S line. The problem for most is Sony is still selling the A7SIII for full mark up, but being slow with the updates. You can however use the handle with XLR that comes with the Fx3 on the A7SIII with a small rig cage and adapter and it is great. That Handle can be used on the A7IV as well.
There is nothing more thoughtless than exposing the shutter to the possibility of getting dirty with unwanted dust. This is a simple way to shorten the life of the shutter because it is not a sensor cover like in the Nikon z9.
@@TomWadeCine stop saying this "animal detection thing" you guys are paid by sony to promote this stupid UPDATE . this camera is not great anymore after 3.0
a7s iii buyers were the test group to see if the fx3 would be the more popular choice for people looking to film video exclusively. They got their answer. With all the hype and publicity the FX3 got with being the camera behind "The Creator" Sony realized it had a hit. The vast majority bought the a7s iii for video as the core reason. I never intended my purchase of it to be for "hybrid" use. Just video. So to sell me on the idea that this was the low-light movie makers wet dream...and to then turn around and put out the FX3 was a 300 mile an hour slap in the face. There really should only be the fX line going forward. You would be a conplete fool to invest in the a7 line frome this poinr forward after you saw how Sony treated you over the past 3 years with intentionally witholding firmware upgrades to the as7 iii that they freely threw at the FX3. Sony has too many camera lines that do great megapixel counts for pictures. I know i would not in the 4th iteration of this camera knowing what i know now.
I can't use the remote shoot function on my MacBook anymore. There is no option to turn off Smartphone function like the old firmware. I am trying to send a video feed to Zoom with a USB-C cable. It was never a problem before the update. Any solutions?
Using a fragile shutter leaf to protect sensor is one of the most stupid function a company gives us. If they really want to prevent dusts onto the sensor, they should design a thin, replacable glass in front of the mount.
Don't use the shutter as cover if dust sticks on it and you put the lens back on, who knows where the dust will go deep inside the cam. Maybe sony did this to finally destroy the s line as a planned obsolescence thing 😅
Yes, the same thing happened to me with the same lenses, focus hunting and the third party lenses can't focus 100%, sony wants the sony bodies to not use third party lenses, so you can update, don't continue, it will hurt your ass, just wait the new sony update instead of being the same as me, I regret rushing to update my a7siii
I'm a Sony owner and what's annoying is we are supposed to rejoice on super basic upgrades... This is a video camera and still no shutter angle ... so annoying... I couldn't be that hard for them to throw it in ... I personally would get better use of shutter angle with the a7siii then the fx3 because I use this camera for more b roll type shots when needing the view finder in bright situations, so I constantly go back n forth with frame rates 24 to 60 fps.. at this point I would pay for shutter angle on this camera lol !
I can understand your frustration.
@@TomWadeCine common Sony ! It's 12 mega pixels we aren't buying this camera for photos !
It ain’t that much different angle and shutter it’s not that serious
Thanks !This answered a few questions / issues I ran into. Like the swipe thingy. Much appreciated!
No worries, glad I could help
Thanks, Tom. Have a great day!
No problem, glad you enjoyed the video
Hey Tom, thanks for the video and explanation! Quick question - what about some of the issues other people report? Have you experienced reduced battery performance or more-than-the-usual warming up of the camera (or anything else)? I am really hesitant to update, having heard some people say "I wish I could revert the update".
I’m actually working on a video update. The only thing I experienced was a decrease in battery life. Everything else including autofocus has been normal
So I've been following your journey with how this camera is now failing because of the updates. In this video it seems like everything was fine. Was it okay in the beginning and later started to malfunction or did you make this video fairly early before you actually got to take it out in the field to put it through it's paces? Just curious because mine seems to be fine, but I would hate to find out that it's not while on a job.
So mine was 100% fine including the Bluetooth/wifi before 3.00. Then the Bluetooth and wifi failed. Then after 3.01 I started noticing overheating and autofocus issues. Then after 3.02, memory card issues, freezing, and lost all internal and 3.5mm audio
@@TomWadeCine Thank you
I was happy to see the focus peaking available for video, and ability to make it thicker. Was using it and then it sort of dissapeared, became hard to see.
Samyang 85mm autofocus problem after update
I'm sorry to hear that!
Yeah, the Mac upgrade thing is nuts. The best thing it seems to do there was find a person with a PC AND UPGRADE FROM THEM. I had the not connecting or Bluetooth and Wi-Fi not working thing happen to me as well. I’m happy with the updates, but the animal eye autofocus isn’t fixed.
I eventually got the Bluetooth and Wi-Fi to work by taking the battery out waiting 2-5 minutes which turned out to be ten since I was eating and getting ready for work. I put the battery back in the camera and I went into the menu and reset the camera back to factory again and my Wi-Fi and Bluetooth came back on and I’m able to use that app. I don’t know if this will work for everyone and yes I had the swipe issue as well that is gone now.
I’m also seeing it hard to see with the A6700, Fx3 ZVE1 series and Fx30, how they can continue with a A7S line. I think the smart thing to do is create a good EV to work in the hot shoe going forward and call it a day. I’m not ungrateful for the updates that we got here, but considering that the only difference between the Fx3 and A7SIII is the handle for $400, it really should have been more considering the cameras have the same internals, except the fan and the EVF.
I would like one more big update to include shutter angle, eye autofocus in video, the Cine EI mode menu and they can discontinue it as this camera has reached Sony’s 4 year upgrade or discontinued cycle, putting fans in all official cinema cameras going forward. Then there is no need for a A7S line.
The problem for most is Sony is still selling the A7SIII for full mark up, but being slow with the updates. You can however use the handle with XLR that comes with the Fx3 on the A7SIII with a small rig cage and adapter and it is great. That Handle can be used on the A7IV as well.
As you spoke of the 4K and 24p, your video did not display the DCI 4K 24.00p.
Hi nice video. Did they change the noise reduction?
Not that I know of
There is nothing more thoughtless than exposing the shutter to the possibility of getting dirty with unwanted dust.
This is a simple way to shorten the life of the shutter because it is not a sensor cover like in the Nikon z9.
there is a bug in this update. camera heating issue battery draining. and samyang 35mm 1.4 ii autofocus is slowing.
Strange, I’m not experience any of those (minus the samyang, as I don’t own it) I’m sorry to hear that.
I noticed the camera was heating up faster just by exploring the menu after the 3.01 firmware update too.
@@brandinojam24 the camera is so heating up after 3.0 update
Eye's tracking is not working as well as the prevuious
firmware.
The target in the eye goes somtime out of focus with
no reason...
make sure settings is not set on animal detection. Mine after the update defaulted to animal detection.
@@TomWadeCine nope, it's human détection..
@@TomWadeCine stop saying this "animal detection thing" you guys are paid by sony to promote this stupid UPDATE . this camera is not great anymore after 3.0
Do you know that while I have 2 cards saved on the screen, it only shows one?
No 4K 1000fps?
a7s iii buyers were the test group to see if the fx3 would be the more popular choice for people looking to film video exclusively. They got their answer. With all the hype and publicity the FX3 got with being the camera behind "The Creator" Sony realized it had a hit. The vast majority bought the a7s iii for video as the core reason. I never intended my purchase of it to be for "hybrid" use. Just video. So to sell me on the idea that this was the low-light movie makers wet dream...and to then turn around and put out the FX3 was a 300 mile an hour slap in the face. There really should only be the fX line going forward. You would be a conplete fool to invest in the a7 line frome this poinr forward after you saw how Sony treated you over the past 3 years with intentionally witholding firmware upgrades to the as7 iii that they freely threw at the FX3. Sony has too many camera lines that do great megapixel counts for pictures. I know i would not in the 4th iteration of this camera knowing what i know now.
Good point.
I can't use the remote shoot function on my MacBook anymore. There is no option to turn off Smartphone function like the old firmware. I am trying to send a video feed to Zoom with a USB-C cable. It was never a problem before the update. Any solutions?
Try disabling the camera Bluetooth to turn off smartphone function then go to USB Connection and select Remote Function.
Currently only 20 lenses are supported by FBC 👎not the best feature in the package.
Good point
Is anybody able to control A7S III with FW 3.0 from gimbal?
yes, with DJI RS3, I just had to do the bluetooth pairing again.
Using a fragile shutter leaf to protect sensor is one of the most stupid function a company gives us.
If they really want to prevent dusts onto the sensor, they should design a thin, replacable glass in front of the mount.
Yeah I hope they upgrade this feature
Don't use the shutter as cover if dust sticks on it and you put the lens back on, who knows where the dust will go deep inside the cam. Maybe sony did this to finally destroy the s line as a planned obsolescence thing 😅
Are there any AF issues with the update? Haha
No it’s all been good
Yes, the same thing happened to me with the same lenses, focus hunting and the third party lenses can't focus 100%, sony wants the sony bodies to not use third party lenses, so you can update, don't continue, it will hurt your ass, just wait the new sony update instead of being the same as me, I regret rushing to update my a7siii
@@daleph4129 thanks. Which third party lens were affected? This info will help everyone. Thank you
Yes autofocus issue with samyang lenses after update 3.0
I USE SIGMA AND ZEISS BATIS AND I haven't faced focus issue
24p has always been a rounded up number on most cameras. True cinema “24p” IS actually 23.976
True, thanks for commenting. Cheers
Yes and no. That's TV friendly 24p. Movies filmed before that change were 24Hz. Nowadays plenty of for-streaming movies are back to 24.000fps
sony also did not mention the hidden issues lol