I find quality connectors make a bigger difference than I expected. I made my own cables using 16 AWG OFC wiring and tellurium copper XLR’s, silver plated. There is an audible difference over 20 gauge wiring with typical standard connectors. The larger gauge offers more body to the music without sacrificing detail. The connectors offer better resolution over the cheap standard connectors typically used. There is definitely more air and detail.
I have been into music for many years. I've listened to budget to silly price hi end. Components matter a lot. More you spend , the more you get. I've compared many xlrs cables. From 500 pound ones, to 3k pound ones to 10 pound ones. I dont know about the science or engineering, but a 3k XLR does not better a 90 pound XLR. Not in sound, but certainly in build quality it does. These companies have been ripping off customers who believe their hype for decades. Test it yourself. Ok, they won't loan you a 3k cable without full payment, but try a 500 pound XLR against a 50 pound XLR. You will hear no difference at all. One will not have better mids or highs. That's just what they want you to believe so you part with the money. I even convinced a dealer that his 2k interconnect was no better than a 20 pound qed 1. He put them on, in turn. He tried to say his 2k was better. I challenged him to a blind test in a shop in central London. There was some onlookers so he felt pressured to agree. He could not tell the Qed 1 from the 2 k cable. His colleague swapped the cables. His excuse, his hearing is not right today as his misses has been doing his head in! In reality, there was no difference. Just buy thick cables that are screened well and built to last. These people have been conning others far too long. Test it yourself with high end amps, speakers and source.
I tend to agree for XLR cables and you may be able to see in my recent comment on that. I have also been dubious about SE cables such as RCA interconnects. Recently I got curious enough to do some testing at home, not curious enough to spend a fortune though. I have a bunch of interconnects already and recently bought some more relatively inexpensive ones, including cable that I made up. One was using Canare GS6 which is an instrument cable, so rather high capacitance. Anyway, the upshot of testing was that all sounded good & clear but there were some differences. My conclusion is that for pub music, party music etc, it doesn't matter. However, for spiritual music such as classical and folk etc where the complex tonality of acoustic instrument is a major component of listener engagement, then yes it does matter and the differences are more noticeable than I expected though still reasonably subtle. All were crystal clear, it's just the depth of emotional engagement with the tonal expression that changed. I also did some cable measurements and found the ones with the lowest capacitance down around 30-50 pF/m where the most engaging in this respect. All the cables tested were pretty inexpensive. The best was from Bunnings Hardware of all places, But measurement testing indicated a problem which went away after cutting it up to more reasonable lengths and re-terminating prior to listening tests. It occurs to me that some of my terminology may not be immediately obvious. Broadly, there are just 2 types of music, pub music or spiritual music. Everything can be fitted into these based on how we are meant to Engauge with the specific performance of the music.
I agree 100 percent the mark up on cables is well the sky is the limit total rip-off but if you want to here a difference in signal gain then use XLR cables you will here a difference of plus 6DB so all the audio fools out there save your money or buy an amp which is balanced out and input
One very important point that a lot of people fail to understand is the actual thickness of the wire gauge. The finished cable can feel robust but the actual wire gauge can be very thin example 34 AWG, 32AMG, 28AWG ,24AWG..... I would say a lower wire gauge would perform better, but of course you can’t go to a very low wire gauge because then they won’t fit in the connectors.
The Japanese Mogami cables are of a high standard and for the uninitiated the 2549 model is also used by Linn to update its arms (word of the CEO Phil Tenninson).
Good video, but I absolutely guarantee that if you had someone change the cables without you knowing which ones they were, you’d be unable to hear a difference.
Damn, I was hoping to see some sort of empirical measurements, but got the usual anecdotes. Nice cables, but you can't possibly hear a difference, especially with cables this short. I suppose that must count for something though, a one's perception becomes their reality. :)
There is a lot of Snake oil going on here I think... Cables don't have a sound, they need good shielding and a low capacitance to "sound" good. A lot of cheaper but still professional cables do that.
All woman are the same............in the dark . All amplifiers sound the same ...............all apples taste the same .....hahahaha! What are you doing here ?????
My hearing has never been really acute...but I believe there are subtle differences between cables...most of the time. HF... I listen for sibilance one female vocals. Cable with more sibilance...esp when "ssss" become "zzzz" = BAD. Usually the one with "zzzz' sibilance will sound tizzy and tinny (esp on cymbals) when compared to "ssss" sibilance. BASS...not necessarily looking the one with more heft. Besides agility... which cable that lays a better foundation to music and which energizes the room better. Diffused and vague bass = BAD MIDs...The fuller and richer on female vocals cable will do it for me as long as central image is not vague (lack focus). Sibilance... or rather... excessive sibilance is a deal breaker for me. Rather simplistic approach.
Well we definitely disagree on cables, but I still enjoy your speaker impressions. How do you get so many speakers anyway? Do you purchase them yourself and then resell to make most of your money back? Oh and do you have any plans to integrate a mic in your sound demos?
No problem, some speakers are sent in by manufacturers and some are own by me and my buddies, all my music playbacks are recorded with pro mic and only my demos and Kenrick sound demos capturing the good sound quality and I'm not sure if I want reveal it yet :), thanks
i dont belive human ears can notice the differce on changing cables. if they are all the same length an good quality cables its impossible imo to notice anny differce
Mr. Cala may be most wont but there are people like me who can n tiny tiny things does make a big difference but great musicians can use almost anything and make it sound great.
if its true what you say all the good quality cables who can colour the sound are not good at all...you buy good quality cables for other reasons(less distortion,noise,built quality ect..)
Ive bought and made several instrument cables (coax), mogami, canare, etc, and different tips. There was a pretty obvious difference... even my WIFE noticed! ;)
Yes there is a difference in audio cables. As an experiment, try a generic rca 2 m. length cable Vs. Audioquest Big Sur (not the most expensive one from this brand) same length in a good quality audio system and the difference is obvious in the definition of the high frequencies. Increase the length of the cable and the difference will be more noticeable and prone to radio frequency interference. As time passes by the generic cable may fail inside the rca conector and you have to buy a new conector and solder it yourself.
Depends on what cable and what length. Almost everyone can hear the hi freq rolloff in guitar cables with high capacitance if the guitar has passive pickups. XLR cables? Not so much especially when the length is only a few meters. Cables that carry digital signal? I'm skeptical anyone can tell the difference in a proper ABX test. FWIW, I think can tell the difference between a 10' Audioquest speaker cable and a 10' lamp wire. If someone wants to test my claim with a properly set up ABX test, I'm down.
Cheap cables can hurt your equipment if you’re using high end equipment that’s very powerful also home theater cable and pro audio cables should not be interchanged and rca cables are not recommended for use in pro audio and some pro audio power amplifiers only have xlr and or 1/4 inch input jacks so therefore rca cables are not recommended in the pro audio world so therefore don’t be cheap and use proper cables otherwise you can potentially damage your equipment
Jc As a mastering engineer I pick up certain cables in the analog chain to gently shape the sound, in order to avoid introducing digital artefacts via software EQ etc. If it makes a difference in producing a master, it can certainly make a difference in the reproduction system. However that doesn’t mean that you need expensive cables or that more expensive means better. Quite the opposite actually. I would recommend to stay away from both dirty cheap and expensive options.
@@jmlathion2909 Agreed, I wish I could recall the producer/re-mastering engineer involved in remastering- I think some early Led Zeppelin on CD; I think the engineer was with Atlantic ATCO. Oh, yeah, Barry Diament! The whole chain was gone through outfitted with a new studio grade of Noel Lee Monster, and some new mains conditioners, and running the tape at a time at night when the AC was clean. Made a VERY audible difference on the consumer end - even at lowly 16bit / 44 CD replay. There was a big uprising among ZEP fans that the later remasters sounded pretty bad compared to Barry's attention to detail with the first issue.- Cheers! Sandy
All cables don’t sound the same. I can give you two to compare. Amazon basic RCA and Belden 8402 rca. What you will hear is that the Belden is smoother, richer and warmer sounding. If you listed a day or so, it’s very clear that they don’t sound the same.
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I find quality connectors make a bigger difference than I expected. I made my own cables using 16 AWG OFC wiring and tellurium copper XLR’s, silver plated. There is an audible difference over 20 gauge wiring with typical standard connectors. The larger gauge offers more body to the music without sacrificing detail. The connectors offer better resolution over the cheap standard connectors typically used. There is definitely more air and detail.
Hi! What happened to sound demo:)
I have been into music for many years. I've listened to budget to silly price hi end. Components matter a lot. More you spend , the more you get. I've compared many xlrs cables. From 500 pound ones, to 3k pound ones to 10 pound ones. I dont know about the science or engineering, but a 3k XLR does not better a 90 pound XLR. Not in sound, but certainly in build quality it does. These companies have been ripping off customers who believe their hype for decades. Test it yourself. Ok, they won't loan you a 3k cable without full payment, but try a 500 pound XLR against a 50 pound XLR. You will hear no difference at all. One will not have better mids or highs. That's just what they want you to believe so you part with the money. I even convinced a dealer that his 2k interconnect was no better than a 20 pound qed 1. He put them on, in turn. He tried to say his 2k was better. I challenged him to a blind test in a shop in central London. There was some onlookers so he felt pressured to agree. He could not tell the Qed 1 from the 2 k cable. His colleague swapped the cables. His excuse, his hearing is not right today as his misses has been doing his head in! In reality, there was no difference. Just buy thick cables that are screened well and built to last. These people have been conning others far too long. Test it yourself with high end amps, speakers and source.
I tend to agree for XLR cables and you may be able to see in my recent comment on that. I have also been dubious about SE cables such as RCA interconnects. Recently I got curious enough to do some testing at home, not curious enough to spend a fortune though. I have a bunch of interconnects already and recently bought some more relatively inexpensive ones, including cable that I made up. One was using Canare GS6 which is an instrument cable, so rather high capacitance. Anyway, the upshot of testing was that all sounded good & clear but there were some differences. My conclusion is that for pub music, party music etc, it doesn't matter. However, for spiritual music such as classical and folk etc where the complex tonality of acoustic instrument is a major component of listener engagement, then yes it does matter and the differences are more noticeable than I expected though still reasonably subtle. All were crystal clear, it's just the depth of emotional engagement with the tonal expression that changed.
I also did some cable measurements and found the ones with the lowest capacitance down around 30-50 pF/m where the most engaging in this respect. All the cables tested were pretty inexpensive. The best was from Bunnings Hardware of all places, But measurement testing indicated a problem which went away after cutting it up to more reasonable lengths and re-terminating prior to listening tests.
It occurs to me that some of my terminology may not be immediately obvious. Broadly, there are just 2 types of music, pub music or spiritual music. Everything can be fitted into these based on how we are meant to Engauge with the specific performance of the music.
I agree 100 percent the mark up on cables is well the sky is the limit total rip-off but if you want to here a difference in signal gain then use XLR cables you will here a difference of plus 6DB so all the audio fools out there save your money or buy an amp which is balanced out and input
Have you had any experience with Mogami 2497? It's been reported by audiophiles that 2479 allows for deeper/wider stage, air and separation.
One very important point that a lot of people fail to understand is the actual thickness of the wire gauge. The finished cable can feel robust but the actual wire gauge can be very thin example 34 AWG, 32AMG, 28AWG ,24AWG..... I would say a lower wire gauge would perform better, but of course you can’t go to a very low wire gauge because then they won’t fit in the connectors.
Hi. I know you posted this video in 2016. My question is, 5 years later, are the Mogami W2549 with Neutrik connectors still your favorite XLR cable?
They are high quality
What is the best xlr cable for mike aston
I don't think so, for RCA I think Mogami 2803 is the best for DIY
Great video, thank you!
Have you tried Cardas cables?
The Japanese Mogami cables are of a high standard and for the uninitiated the 2549 model is also used by Linn to update its arms (word of the CEO Phil Tenninson).
Yes many high end components come with strip down Mogami cables.
Thank you for your nice review.
That is why I buy professional cables for my hifi equipment. They are usually well done. And will not break on you.
What is the best xlr cable for mike aston
Good video, but I absolutely guarantee that if you had someone change the cables without you knowing which ones they were, you’d be unable to hear a difference.
What is the best xlr cable for mike aston
great review buddy!! Waiting for the sound demo :)
Silver in solder is there to solder to silver plated connctors. It will actually make the cables worse.
What brand of silver solder did you use ?
Fantastic video
can i find the xlr cable to connect the trolley speaker with the mixture but trolley speakers have no xlr port
do u have any idea plz share with me
Would you say that the W2549 cable is better than the W2534 for interconnect ?
What is the best xlr cable for mike aston
2534 is better
for the uninitiated, the 2549 model is also used by Linn to update its tonearms (word from CEO Phil Tenninson).
Use Mogami 2803 for RCA, very very good😊
Damn, I was hoping to see some sort of empirical measurements, but got the usual anecdotes. Nice cables, but you can't possibly hear a difference, especially with cables this short. I suppose that must count for something though, a one's perception becomes their reality. :)
There is a lot of Snake oil going on here I think... Cables don't have a sound, they need good shielding and a low capacitance to "sound" good. A lot of cheaper but still professional cables do that.
All woman are the same............in the dark .
All amplifiers sound the same ...............all apples taste the same .....hahahaha!
What are you doing here ?????
Hi do you think xlr are better than rca at a length of 1metre
I like XLR more for lower noise, some components sound better with XLR cable.
Neutrix xlr connector right, I not sure I spell correctly.
Neutric
2 words.. Blind Test :)
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With all those 'good' cables
why is there a noise coming from the video recording?
My hearing has never been really acute...but I believe there are subtle differences between cables...most of the time.
HF... I listen for sibilance one female vocals. Cable with more sibilance...esp when "ssss" become "zzzz" = BAD. Usually the one with "zzzz' sibilance will sound tizzy and tinny (esp on cymbals) when compared to "ssss" sibilance.
BASS...not necessarily looking the one with more heft. Besides agility... which cable that lays a better foundation to music and which energizes the room better. Diffused and vague bass = BAD
MIDs...The fuller and richer on female vocals cable will do it for me as long as central image is not vague (lack focus).
Sibilance... or rather... excessive sibilance is a deal breaker for me.
Rather simplistic approach.
100% agree with your comment, thanks
I really appreciate your videos, but there is no way you can differentiate between those cables.
Do you mean in RUclips video? in real world?
I mean I don't think you can hear the difference in the real world.
You'll be surprised !
Well we definitely disagree on cables, but I still enjoy your speaker impressions. How do you get so many speakers anyway? Do you purchase them yourself and then resell to make most of your money back? Oh and do you have any plans to integrate a mic in your sound demos?
No problem, some speakers are sent in by manufacturers and some are own by me and my buddies, all my music playbacks are recorded with pro mic and only my demos and Kenrick sound demos capturing the good sound quality and I'm not sure if I want reveal it yet :), thanks
i dont belive human ears can notice the differce on changing cables.
if they are all the same length an good quality cables its impossible imo to notice anny differce
Mr. Cala may be most wont but there are people like me who can n tiny tiny things does make a big difference but great musicians can use almost anything and make it sound great.
if its true what you say all the good quality cables who can colour the sound are not good at all...you buy good quality cables for other reasons(less distortion,noise,built quality ect..)
Ive bought and made several instrument cables (coax), mogami, canare, etc, and different tips. There was a pretty obvious difference... even my WIFE noticed! ;)
Yes there is a difference in audio cables. As an experiment, try a generic rca 2 m. length cable Vs. Audioquest Big Sur (not the most expensive one from this brand) same length in a good quality audio system and the difference is obvious in the definition of the high frequencies. Increase the length of the cable and the difference will be more noticeable and prone to radio frequency interference. As time passes by the generic cable may fail inside the rca conector and you have to buy a new conector and solder it yourself.
Depends on what cable and what length. Almost everyone can hear the hi freq rolloff in guitar cables with high capacitance if the guitar has passive pickups. XLR cables? Not so much especially when the length is only a few meters. Cables that carry digital signal? I'm skeptical anyone can tell the difference in a proper ABX test.
FWIW, I think can tell the difference between a 10' Audioquest speaker cable and a 10' lamp wire. If someone wants to test my claim with a properly set up ABX test, I'm down.
Cheap cables can hurt your equipment if you’re using high end equipment that’s very powerful also home theater cable and pro audio cables should not be interchanged and rca cables are not recommended for use in pro audio and some pro audio power amplifiers only have xlr and or 1/4 inch input jacks so therefore rca cables are not recommended in the pro audio world so therefore don’t be cheap and use proper cables otherwise you can potentially damage your equipment
What is the best xlr cable for mike aston
Mogami What?
Gold.
@@Tharbamar Ok thanks
I guarantee they all sound exactly the same in any blind listening test. Length in those cases makes zero difference as well.
antoniobolgnameyerwe « Any blind listening test »... on a bad system or in bad acoutics, maybe... For untrained ears, most probably.
Jc As a mastering engineer I pick up certain cables in the analog chain to gently shape the sound, in order to avoid introducing digital artefacts via software EQ etc.
If it makes a difference in producing a master, it can certainly make a difference in the reproduction system.
However that doesn’t mean that you need expensive cables or that more expensive means better. Quite the opposite actually. I would recommend to stay away from both dirty cheap and expensive options.
@@jmlathion2909 Agreed, I wish I could recall the producer/re-mastering engineer involved in remastering- I think some early Led Zeppelin on CD; I think the engineer was with Atlantic ATCO. Oh, yeah, Barry Diament! The whole chain was gone through outfitted with a new studio grade of Noel Lee Monster, and some new mains conditioners, and running the tape at a time at night when the AC was clean. Made a VERY audible difference on the consumer end - even at lowly 16bit / 44 CD replay. There was a big uprising among ZEP fans that the later remasters sounded pretty bad compared to Barry's attention to detail with the first issue.- Cheers! Sandy
If you don't think cables sound different it might just be that your system is just not good enough to present the difference ... Just a thought ... 🤫
What is the best xlr cable for mike aston
All cables sound the same
For you and for me
And the entire human race
There are people lie
Most of those who sell fancy audio cables
All cables don’t sound the same. I can give you two to compare. Amazon basic RCA and Belden 8402 rca. What you will hear is that the Belden is smoother, richer and warmer sounding. If you listed a day or so, it’s very clear that they don’t sound the same.
Who the hell are you to review these cables when the audio quality of your video is this bad?
The audio quality of yo momma is this bad