This is very useful information. If a plug socket is old or worn, the receptacles become a loose fit on the plug pins. This could lead to a heat build up with prolonged use, and possibly a fire. Very clever bit of additional protection on the charger.
Really?? If they made that feature, why put it in the plug and not in the box (with a sticker explaining it). Seems pointless sending additional wires all the way up to the plug and putting the sensor directly over the live pin. Doesn't ring true to me.
Matt is correct, on the UK version of the Nissan / Renault granny cables it is a temperature sensor, our sockets are only rated at 13A so configuring it to pull 14A would be useless. There are posts on SpeakEV where people have taken the plug apart and found a 22k thermistor inside. The European version is slightly different as it’s also designed to be used with dedicated electric vehicle sockets that can supply 14A. You are correct that this is activated by a magnet, this is normally a feature of these dedicated sockets. This is a description on the feature from a manufacturer of these sockets: “A magnet located in the socket allowing it to be detected by the charging cable, and thus to mount the charging amperage to 14A”
@@GoGreenAutos It's for French sockets. Sockets rated for the full 16A have a little magnet in them. The plug detects this and lets the charger run at a higher rate.
Today I also found out this tiny detail. But being an idiot as I am, I've decided to source a longer cable and replace the whole thing from the charger terminal inside the cable, being that I need German instead of Swiss plug that came with the unit. There I've found out the 2 extra wires on a separate jst connector. It had about 19kOmhs at 23C and about 39kOhms at aproximately -4 to 0C. Fresh from -10C freezer it was about 72kOhms, the digital thermometer froze so I have no idea about the exact temp. The point is, if you're going to nuke the sensor, just put a 20K resistor in place, I'm sure granny is going to complain about it being missing. Looking at some datasheets, this may be the component in the plug moulding: NTCLE100E3154GB0. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
We have a similar problem in Russia with cars from Japan. But when replacing the plug, the temperature sensor can be saved. How we do this can be seen, for example, in this video - ruclips.net/video/EPelDlakFO8/видео.html
Hi. Just purchased a 66 plate nissan e-nv200, unfortunately not of yourselves. Do you have and suggestions regarding a portable charger ? I've watched a couple of videos now with you using a nissan charger. Do you use any other particular ones ? If so, where do you suggest I look. I only do daily small journeys for my business. Any help would be much appreciated.
My recommendation is to get a 10 metre portable charger as 5 metres often isn't long enough. You often find a socket isn't close enough to the vehicle, so when you have to go around the wall, through an open window, under the garage door etc, you can soon run out of cable. 10 mtrs is so much easier. As for brand, they all do the same thing really. Its better to get one that can be adjustable as running them at 8 amps is safer and will not overheat the socket & plug. Running at 6 amps is better if you're using an extension cable. But I've used this one over the last few years and not had any issues amzn.to/3v873PU If you can find a type1 charger that is selectable, all the better. But don't choose one that is rated at 13A. 10A is the maximum you should pull through a UK mains socket.
This is very useful information.
If a plug socket is old or worn, the receptacles become a loose fit on the plug pins. This could lead to a heat build up with prolonged use, and possibly a fire.
Very clever bit of additional protection on the charger.
Thank you for this, you saved my charger. I was going to cut the plug off mine, and hardwire to a fused spur unit.
Yes, that would have been an expensive mistake.
2 small cables is for changing charge speed from 10a to 14a by putting a magnet to the plug ;)
Really?? If they made that feature, why put it in the plug and not in the box (with a sticker explaining it). Seems pointless sending additional wires all the way up to the plug and putting the sensor directly over the live pin. Doesn't ring true to me.
Matt is correct, on the UK version of the Nissan / Renault granny cables it is a temperature sensor, our sockets are only rated at 13A so configuring it to pull 14A would be useless. There are posts on SpeakEV where people have taken the plug apart and found a 22k thermistor inside.
The European version is slightly different as it’s also designed to be used with dedicated electric vehicle sockets that can supply 14A. You are correct that this is activated by a magnet, this is normally a feature of these dedicated sockets. This is a description on the feature from a manufacturer of these sockets:
“A magnet located in the socket allowing it to be detected by the charging cable, and thus to mount the charging amperage to 14A”
@@GoGreenAutos It's for French sockets. Sockets rated for the full 16A have a little magnet in them. The plug detects this and lets the charger run at a higher rate.
2 small cables is for changing charge speed from 10a to 14a
Today I also found out this tiny detail. But being an idiot as I am, I've decided to source a longer cable and replace the whole thing from the charger terminal inside the cable, being that I need German instead of Swiss plug that came with the unit. There I've found out the 2 extra wires on a separate jst connector. It had about 19kOmhs at 23C and about 39kOhms at aproximately -4 to 0C. Fresh from -10C freezer it was about 72kOhms, the digital thermometer froze so I have no idea about the exact temp.
The point is, if you're going to nuke the sensor, just put a 20K resistor in place, I'm sure granny is going to complain about it being missing.
Looking at some datasheets, this may be the component in the plug moulding: NTCLE100E3154GB0. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
A US video advises there is a 30v transformer in the plug that goes back to the brick/pcb which I find odd? Temp sensor sounds more like it🤔
We have a similar problem in Russia with cars from Japan. But when replacing the plug, the temperature sensor can be saved. How we do this can be seen, for example, in this video - ruclips.net/video/EPelDlakFO8/видео.html
useful information!
Hi. Just purchased a 66 plate nissan e-nv200, unfortunately not of yourselves.
Do you have and suggestions regarding a portable charger ?
I've watched a couple of videos now with you using a nissan charger.
Do you use any other particular ones ?
If so, where do you suggest I look.
I only do daily small journeys for my business.
Any help would be much appreciated.
My recommendation is to get a 10 metre portable charger as 5 metres often isn't long enough. You often find a socket isn't close enough to the vehicle, so when you have to go around the wall, through an open window, under the garage door etc, you can soon run out of cable. 10 mtrs is so much easier.
As for brand, they all do the same thing really. Its better to get one that can be adjustable as running them at 8 amps is safer and will not overheat the socket & plug. Running at 6 amps is better if you're using an extension cable.
But I've used this one over the last few years and not had any issues amzn.to/3v873PU
If you can find a type1 charger that is selectable, all the better. But don't choose one that is rated at 13A. 10A is the maximum you should pull through a UK mains socket.
BELLISSIMO.