noo I am. 11/26/19. I knew Kate was a witch and she treated Jon like a servant, not a spouse or partner. She’s using those kids as a cash cow to maintain her lifestyle with no regard to the long term affects for the children.
@@nancysimmons2225 If not now, they will be old enough to make up their own minds on seeing their relatives. I liked the aunt and uncle. They seemed to be a good influence with their niece and nephews, except don't give them gum. lol
Jon got a ten year gag order, hes only recently been able to speak for himself, how ridiculous it is to not be able to publicly stick up for yourself or your children because of a fucking TLC contract. Good for Jodi for speaking out even in 2008.
Alabama Beauty I’m surprised he lasted as long as did! I just watch some clips called “ugly moments” from their show and she treated him with such disrespect. She is a vile person. I feel sorry for those children.
@@marymcmilleon2821 My guess is that Mom or Dad or both were Narcissists. Ironically, Kate's brother seems to have a personality like Jon (Not a bad thing, just caring, sensitive type), so, with that dynamic, I guarantee, Kate's parents displayed the same dynamic to them. Kate has deeper issues that cause her to be cold and emotionally unavailable but she is definitely abusive in nature (My opinion). I would guess her Mother was the same as her or worse.
@@marymcmilleon2821I think Kate’s father abused all of his kids but Kate was abused the worst because she was a typical teenager and didn’t like following his strict rules. Kind of like Kate abusing Collin more than his siblings because he wouldn’t follow her strict rules. I think it’s sad that people abused as children would abuse their own kids. I was emotionally abused as a kid and I would never want that for my kids. I grew up in a household where after my dads death all my mom would do is yell.
They called it. Kate even sent Collin away for 2yrs to live in some secret institution bc he had adhd and was difficult to film with. She literally sent him aeay and told us all he was special needs. The kids is totally normal, just has adhd. Like wtf Kate, you monster.
I have a child that is grown that is ADHD and also has a Thought processing deficit. Yes it was hard but you adapt and you get into a mode of learning all that you can do to help your child. He graduated from High School, keeps a job and has a family of his own, just doing Great. I am so proud of him. So sending a child away I cannot imagine, I didn’t have that many children, only 3, but I understand she had Nannies so I just don’t understand why. Just my opinion I believe she is cruel.
Her kids will end up being like her too. Collin would be better off with a family member taking care of him instead of an institution. Learn to work with a disabled kid. It teaches patience, understanding, compassion, inclusiveness, as well as encouraging independence for the child with the disability.
@@ozfreak26 Sad part is he really didn't have a disability. He has/had ADHD and she couldn't handle it. Thankfully, his Dad finally found where he was and fought for custody and has been living with him for over a year now. I hear Collin is very hurt about what his Mother did to him.💔
How is it her when HE CHEATED. He cheated with the nanny and got caught and then he didn’t want to film the divorce. He didn’t stop filming until he was caught being a nasty pig.
@@arlizan430 They were already divorced when he dated others but TLC made ppl think they were still together. Because of gag order from TLC, he couldn't speak up.
@@arlizan430 He didn't cheat. He was already divorced when he was dating other women. The public was fooled because on TV he was seen as married, but in reality while this aired, he was already divorced.
I wonder what Kevin and Jodie would say now...8 years later....with all that is being revealed about their nephew, Collin, and the abuse he endured in his mother's home and in the mental institution that Kate put him in....this facility that took this 12 year old child WITHOUT a proper diagnosis and without telling his father where the child was for 3 years....and they subjected this 12 year old to MORE physical, mental and psychological abuse and kept him drugged and sedated and isolated. And he was apparently 75lbs overweight when Jon rescued him. Thank GOD his roommate was able to smuggle Collin's letter (which was a heart-wrenching plea for his father to rescue him) to Jon and Jon was able to rescue his son from this place and from what I read, he seems to be happy and thriving at his father's home. He's making straight A's in school, he's bonding with his father again, he's in therapy and healing from all the abuse and he's hoping to create a better future for himself AWAY from his mother's abusive home.
TLC definitely ruined the family! I hate how they even film the kids crying!!! Jon even hated this and other stuff producers forced onto the kids when he confirmed it on his Dr. Oz interview.
I never understood that. Why did they need to film them pooping, undressing, bathing, napping, turning off the light& closing the door in their bedroom while a cameraman is still there while they take a nap, having a single person filming a kid alone in their bedroom??? It's gross that Kate allowed TLC to film them like that. They had no privacy!
So many people did not believe them when this first aired, but I always did. I thought they did this because they really cared about their nieces & nephews and were just trying to protect them. Now after hearing Jon’s recent interviews, it is proof that they were telling the truth. I think Jodi & Kevin were maybe trying to speak for Jon back then since Jon had been ordered not to tell anybody through the gag order. Maybe they felt this was the only way they could get through to everybody about what was really going on. I wonder if Jon ever reunited with them afterwards, they seem like they were more on his side about things.
Wow!! They called it!! Hannah literally ran from it and colin was sent away because he refused to comply! I hope they get to see them at least now they living with john.
What happened is the production company suggested they become regular additions to the show and would get paid because of it. It was the production company's idea. When Kate heard she'd have to share the spotlight, she put an end to it. They appeared on the show less.
Emanuel M lol I know I didn’t do a good job showing my sarcasm 😅🤣 I always thought it was a right of passage to get gum in your hair and have to cut it out
WOW. The were ahead of the time but actually lived* it first hand. "Change the laws protecting kids on reality TV" That's powerful stuff. Did they ever do it? Like did it get changed I mean?
I stopped watching after seeing her abuse her husband and kids. Can't figure out why anyone would want to watch her shows. All that does is put more money in her greedy little hands. She lives for the fame and the money.
If Jon had gotten the kids from the get-go, then none of this mess would've happened. Kate Plus 8 wouldn't have started, Collin wouldn't have been sent away and then everything would've been fine.
Amen. Stop watching this crap. One day I watch the multiple episodes of Jon & Kate Plus 8 and with disgusted. I watch the Duggar family once. This is before it became famous for the son sexually abusing his children. I thought what is this weird show and this weird family. Never watched again eta I don't watch anything on TLC anymore. That network is in turn into the trash Network.
I don't doubt for a second that Kate mainly did the show for financial security for their kids. Let's be honest, each kid will need minimum 200k for their education, marriage, etc. 1.6 million in cash is impossible to be saved from a couple who works IT and Nursing.
I know this is an old comment of yours but I just wanted to update the financial issue. Kate, earlier year, 2018, that SHE IS BROKE to the point that she had no way to pay the very large balloon payment due this year. They live on a 26 acre estate in a 6200 square foot home. Kate has had MULTIPLE NANNIES, She wears designer clothing and shoes. She has her children in private schools and she, of course sent Colin to a Boarding School for "life skills" issues. She NEVER ONCE brought him home for a visit that was around three years ago. She claimed that the School DID NOT ALLOW COLLIN TO VISIT HOME, EVER! Jon had to go to Court to learn where his own son was because KATE WOULD NOT TELL HIM WHERE COLLIN WAS. JON now visits Collin and has started bringing him home for WEEKENDS AND COLLIN SPENT THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY with HANNAH AND JON. So, once again KATE LIED. SHE DID PUT THAT CHILD IN A 24 HOUR 365 DAYS PER YEAR OVER NIGHT BOARDING SCHOOL B.C. AND JUST LEFT HIM. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT SHE HAS BEEN VISITING HIM IN HIS SCHOOL...EVER. COLLIN WAS NEVER OUT OF THE BOARDING SCHOOL MOST LIKELY WHEN MOST, IF NOT ALL THE OTHERS, WERE GONE, COLLIN WAS LEFT...NOT INVITED HOME. HE HAS MISSED TWO BIRTHDAYS WITH THE REST OF HIS SIBLINGS, AND EVERY SINGLE HOLLIDAY IN OVER TWO AND A HALF YEARS! COLLIN'S WEEKEND VISIT TO HIS DAD'S, WAS THE FIRST TIME HE HAD BEEN IN JON'S HOME IN THREE YEARS. Collin, Hannah and Jon spent their birthday together at their school. Jon already has Permanent Custody of Hannah and has now applied for permanent Custody of Collin. I hope he is successful because he really wants to live with Jon. COLLIN had reported to his Counselors that Kate had been abusing him. I believe him. Sorry this is so long. Just wanted to let you know of the changes.
They didn't save, but lived extravagantly and she's now bankrupt. The kids definitely could have qualified for financial aid, so saying she sacrificed their childhood so she could one day send them to college, just doesn't cut it.
What if I told you she only got pregnant for fame and even forced herself to have that many kids for fame...she never wanted kids she only wanted to be rich and famous.
Even before the gag order I remember Jon wanting the children to stop being exploited also, obviously no judge Kate and Jon went before was a good judge of character. Although Kate is very good at being deceptive and also could play the poor me part well. She should be in jail for what she did to Collin alone. I hope it somehow works out for the children still left in her care.
@@nicoleackerman205 plus TLC was paying for everything!! They paid for her divorce and her custody battle against Jon. When you have high power attorneys on your side you have a better chance at winning whatever you’re facing. She even took money out of the kids trust fund that they had from the show and now apparently they don’t have anything from the years of exploitation they suffered. I hope her kids realize what actually happened and don’t just believe whatever she tells them. It’s perfectly clear she alienated the children from their father and the siblings who chose to live with him. I can’t believe she literally locked Collin away and just abandoned her own child. She wouldn’t even tell the court where he was so Jon couldn’t get custody of him! Oh don’t forget after he finally gets out through smuggling a letter out with his roommate who had outside privileges, she turns his siblings against him! 😡 that is some evil shit and I can’t believe she has most of the kids still under her spell.
I am surprised at the negativity directed towards Kate's brother and wife. They are just being straight forward and they knew Jon didn't want the kids forced to film another year. I think they truly thought they were helping by stating what they observed over the 6 or so years.They didn't make up anything, nor did they get paid.
@Lourdes Betancourt Well, you save $150,000 per year on Private school. You don't send one child to a Full time Boarding school when he is 12 years old for over 2 1/2 years. You don't have designer clothes and shoes...only for yourself. YOU DON'T EMPLOY A FULL TIME CHEF. (You didn't really believe she was cooking EVERY MEAL, CANNING, BAKING, PUMPKIN PICKING.) You don't retain a personal FULL TIME bodyguard for YOURSELF... WITH YOUR HUSBAND AT HOME. You don't hold onto, or better yet buy, a multi-million dollar, multi-acreage ESTATE. You GET A JOB. JON DID. Kate NEVER WORKED AFTER THE SHOW STARTED EXCEPT FOR WRITING A BLOG FOR A COUPON concern FROM WHICH SHE WAS FIRED AFTER A SHORT TIME FOR CONTINUAL RUDENESS TO CUSTOMERS. YOU DON'T GO THROUGH FORTY NANNIES IN VERY FEW YEARS. YOU DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE NANNIES SOME OF WHOM LIVED IN YOUR HOME EVEN WHEN YOU WERE HOME. YOU DON'T TRAVEL EXTENSIVELY WITHOUT THE KIDS. YOU DON'T TAKE A BODYGUARD, ALL HIS EXPENSES PAID OF COURSE, ON THOSE TRIPS WITHOUT THE KIDS. That's just for starters.
C Swank, I did hear a rumor that TLC offered to pay Jodi and Kevin since they seemed to be a big part of the children's lives. Kate said no. She was not going to let anyone else profit from her and her children. I saw no reason why they shouldn't pay them. They helped out so much with children. Kate treated Jon like he was a dog. I couldn't figure out how he hung in there so long. When she was going on "Dancing with the Stars", her partner Tony did not think much of her. I felt sorry for him because I think he was the most patient of any of the pro dancers and she tried to boss him around, telling him how to show her how to dance.
Same here! Plus all they have on every single day is that horrible show 90 Day Finacè! Fuck TLC. Kate has always been and always will be a narcissist and money hungry bitch.
Fell down a rabbit hole with rewatching a bit of the original show. THEN I find another series by TLC that started in 2018 about another couple who had sextuplets. Nothing has changed 😢
@@carolsparks7286 Collin will never forget that. My aunt threw away my little white toy dog. He went everywhere with me. I did something wrong and my aunt threw my little dog away. I am 63 and I still have sad thoughts about that and more than a little anger towards my aunt. Poor Collin suffered horrible emotional abuse from his mother. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if one of those children gets some kind of revenge on Kate when they get older. Watch for it to happen.
That's when their relationship fell apart. She spoke about it online. After being lambasted for giving them gum -- and not thanked for watching eight extra kids that day -- it really upset Jodi.
@@HummingbirdEighty8 when I was about that age, my mum threatened to throw out all my toys because I wasn’t cleaning up fast enough. She brought out a garbage bag and started throwing them all in there. I started cleaning up and got them all back but I was crying and begging my mum not to. I still remember that day clear as ever, while my mum has no recollection saying she would never do anything like that. Who’s willing to be that Kate would be claiming the same if it weren’t for the footage?
I dont think they are jelous. they showed there house and they live pretty well. if they were jealous they would of talked bout money and not the kid's mental health after this...i thought this was great because somebody needs to come out and screams at the politics for laws when kids are in tv
Never thought hey were jealous. They are stating facts it’s obvious Kate’s a psychopath. What are they suppose to do not speak up? NarcissistslikeKate love to paint someone as jealous just so they feel good about themselves they are so pathetic and evil.
It’s amazing that the opinion of her brother and sister in law and a all of their concerns. Turned out to be true. Hind sight is definitely twenty twenty.
This is what Kate wanted. After about the 3rd season John was done. He asked for it to be over but if he wanted to keep his family together. He had to continue the show because the bully Kate said it was the show or he could leave.
It's amazing what thruth came from the sister-in-law. Just about everything she said was what Jon said on the Dr. Oz show Ten+ years later that really did happen. That bitch of a "mother" put Collin in an institution and left him there to lay in a drug induced fog. Would not tell Jon where he was. Poor kid smuggled a letter written in crayon to his dad. When he read that on the Dr. Oz show it made me cry. He is a changed kid now. If you haven't watch that interview you should. He had a Ten year gag order on him. Now he gets to tell his side. And it isn't flattering to Kate at all.
FACTS 👏🏻 They care about their nieces and nephews vs Kate and Jon (mainly Kate, I think)! I'm so happy there are family members out there that are against (don't like) reality TV shows and exploitation! These people are smart. Poor Kids 😞.
I bet he was kates emotional and verbal punching bag growing up before she started dating and moving that abuse onto her partners. I feel bad for him, growing up with Kate as a sister.
People say Jodi and Kevin were jealous but they were right all along. Look what happened to the Gosselins'. Divided. And the children are caught in the middle. 2:26 I wouldn't be surprised to Kate said this.I believe Jon began understanding this leading to the divorce between Jon and Kate. Jon did push camera crew out of the house in some points. Kate was scared Jon will get them fired. At the end Jon quit, Kate got fired a whole entire decade later and the kids are caught in the middle.
i don't think that the show was a form of entertainment for me, it helped me to understand how hard it is for parents to raise so many children on their own. It's like the discovery channel, helped me understand something that will soon be in history books. i luved their show and still do, i just hope, like the aunt and uncle that the children are safe and happy! :)
I m from Greece and it will never be allowed for children to be on reslity. Laws here dont ever allow minors to be on a simple interview. What s wrong with your laws America?
Litsa Koutoula it’s not America....child labor laws differ from state to state. States like California have more strict rules bc there are a lot of children actors but in Pennsylvania...it is up to the parent in some situations.
They didn't save, but lived extravagantly and Kate's now broke. The kids definitely could have qualified for financial aid, so saying she sacrificed their childhood so she could one day send them to college, just doesn't cut it.
Well she could let her husband talk without over talking him. He starts to answer a question and she takes over. This poor guy is like Jon. She takes charge over every question. He can’t even speak. Geesh!
Kate would talk terrible to John. She would berate him accuse him call him names and treat him like he was a 5 year old. She was very disrespectful to him.
@@tinarogers2181 He's Kate's brother, not the woman. I think she tried to help him right at the start but that she is also NERVOUS! It's a lot to be on TV.
It’s amazing that none of the extended family members are in the show. I guess she doesn’t want anyone else in her spotlight. Maybe she should go where Colin is. !
The Show offered to pay her brother and sister in law. When Kate found out she was LIVID! She told the show that NO ONE would be paid except her. Period. So brother and sister in law were cut out of her life. She then went on a campaign to smear them because they spoke out about the kids being on the show stating the kids having told her that they didn't like the the cameras there ALL THE TIME. Kate filed suit, as she did if anyone told the TRUTH about the show and its negative effects on the children. Again, she dropped the suit because she COULD NOT WIN BECAUSE THEY WERE TELLING THE TRUTH. SHE certainly could not prove otherwise.
@@cynthiaburrus3901 How do you know so much? I keep coming across your name and each time it's something new about Kate's life. Not trying to rag on your or anything just curious.
@@oneinvisibledoctor About a year and a half ago, I had learned about Collin. I have just read a lot and learned from many sources, books, newspapers, internet, interviews, etc., about Jon's issues in not getting to see his kids as Court ordered. Kate refused first, to tell him Collin was gone. He learned from the kids. Then she refused to tell him where he was. We have a close family friend who has been going through a similar situation and I know how devastating it has been for the dad. It doesn't take a lot to look up what is current. You can look up Jon's Twitter and hear from him where they are now. I am frankly, just happy to see him with two of his children with the lady he loves and her kids. I'm the grandmother to 9...ages 11 to 22. So no, I'm not nuts. I just have been rooting for him, Hannah and Collin. There are a few of us who post quite a bit. I appreciate when they add to the narrative. But I see Jon's family situation as being resolved for the these two children. Unless one of the other kids decides that they want to live with their Dad, and I haven't seen anything that would suggest that, this chapter seems to be closed.
Thank god those kids are all adults now. I know she damaged Collin but it will be difficult to see if the others have problems as well. That being said, Collin did his first interview as an adult and he was extremely well-spoken and level headed.
Relatives & friends just coming over for a "visit" not being filmed & that that can't happen is not normal! I agree with Jodi & Kevin that Kate is the one enjoying the fame, money & notoriety! These kids at some point are going to want their lives back!!! Sure the money is providing a lot for this large family but it's a bigger price tag than anyone realizes!
@@MusicSeason22 But there is a limit. Too much camera time would lead to rebellion because there will be times when the kids don't want the cameras and just want to be left alone.
What's sad the kids have told their aunt and uncle that they dont like the cameras, and in interviews with the kids, when they're asked if they like being in tv the kids look at their mom then smile and says they love it.
@LightlyLexi You are right about one thing - the kids don't mind anymore but it's because something Jodi said finally got through Kate's head. Kate allowed camera's to go into the kids bedrooms which meant they didn't have a private place in their home they could escape too, Near the end Kate finally said No Camera's in the bedrooms. Which is what Jodi said was all they were concerned about - the kids having a place to go when they didn't want the camera in their face.
Every time Kevin starts talking, the interviewer interrupts him and asks Jodi another question. That's so weird! Anyway.... I do agree that it's not a great environment for the kids. Each of those cameras comes with a camera MAN (or woman) who is just always there watching them every day. That's.... weird.
Because the interviewer asked the question (tlc) and she doesn’t know how to put the answer in the response. Because the interviewers are not supposed to be heard.
they can tell the camera crew not to film them just becuase theyre related to kate doesnt mean that they must appear in the show... i dont see how this is any different then when celebrities have kids...
They both tried to help those kids. It’s really sad that it turned out this way. Jodi and Kate’s brother completely had the children’s best interest at heart ❤ It breaks my heart, that they saw this coming 💯% Hello and then Dance Moms comes along. We do need to protect these children! They are too young to go against their parents and the parents think this is what’s best for them because of the opportunity. Kids need to be kids and be allowed to mess up and grow up without everyone judging and criticizing.
Now rewatching the series, omg it did get so awkward in season 4. Kate always ragged on him but you see it go from playful nagging with her tapping his thigh and leaning into him to both of them crossed arms, giving each other dirty looks. I always liked Kevin and Jodi. Glad they spoke out.
Lol. Who ever couldn't see Karen..um..Kate wasn't a monster is either blind, acting like her, or been abused into thinking that was normal. You do not berate your mate like that in a restaurant let alone national TV. This is proof tho, no matter how little you think something, other people might feel differently and when feelings aren't respected then people start looking for an out.
Jon and Kate loved the spotlight, money and trips it was obvious. With that you exploit your family and your kids suffer. Be careful what you wish for in life, fame is toxic.
With Kate in particular, I absolutely agree. Jon on the other agreed with documentary and reality TV at first. It was a test really to see if it might help pay the bills. Then by season 3 especially, he had absolutely enough, and in 2008 when people were filming, he got to points where he pushed camera crew out of the house. Kate was furious and petrified because she didn't want to get fried, and Jon didn't care if it lead to them being fired because he rather work for IT than him and family being exploited. It was very clear that it wasn't his job.
Now we know it’s all been Kate and Jon was basically just a slave who did what he was told. It’s sad this happened to Jon and the kids, Kate is a monster of a person. She only cares about herself and I’m glad TLC finally severed ties with her.
No one on here knows what goes on behind the cameras. Every person that has commented on here thinks that they know exactly what has happened. I feel like even though all of us have heard many sides of this story, we shouldn't be commenting negative things simply because we have no idea what goes on behind the scenes.
this didnt have to be told..viewers already knew she was a controling witch..the way she treated her husband and her children particularly colin..was awful..she was more like a drill sargent than a loving wife and mother..they way she labeled her innocent child a trouble maker was shocking
I agree. They even went as far as to pay all her legal fees so she could retain custody of the kids and let them keep filming despite Jon's objections.
At the start of all of this people where interested in a dad mom with 8 kids than they went on to making the show jon and kate needed the money as the kids got older they needed more but actually we all have to realize kate changed. Because she was the one with 8 kids in a small hose for 24/7 she got stressed!! And TLC should think on the kids there is times when they shouldt be filming some moments like kids crying, or alone time with the family is fine 1 day or 2 but not the whole time. later kate did get a little worse with the cameras but it can happen to everyone. And if she wants to get back on TV its to pay a million dollar house that they need, food for 9, school, security, taxes, collage, family time, and even more think about this instead of just saying stuff that you are not even sure of.
I remember the episode where aunt Jodi gave the kids chewing gum... and Kate freaked!! Calling Jodi and bitching her out! Well it did get on everything. 😂 Turns out Kate was a control freak the entire time tho! Now the plastic surgery on her eyes matches her personality! She looks like an angry evil cat! It heartbreaking to think of what she did to Collin!! I’m happy to hear he’s with his father & sister now. This entire story is heartbreaking!!
So was just thinking, don't you think that chewing gum thing just might have been scripted? That's the one thing about reality shows they are far from real most are scripted for more drama and Jodi doesn't really look like she could be that dense as to give a three year old gum! Just something to ponder.....and Kate really liked to play super bitch and miss know it all on all episodes....soooo
@ClaireMusicLove You aren't hearing her. She is saying it started off innocently, only being filmed a few hours a week and only certain moments which was okay. She drew the line when cameras were put in their bedrooms - their only private place in their home taken from them, and when they started being filmed more an more. Also if you watch older episodes they only allowed the film crew in their house for a few hours not the kids whole stay at their house.
From the time the show started, at least by the time they were half way through season 1, it was so rare to see Mady and Cara smile. I eventually stopped watching it because Mady and Cara looked so unhappy, even angry sometimes. I think the little kids loved it because of all the extra attention and it's all they knew from the time they were infants but it's hard enough to live with 3 brothers and 3 sisters and be a twin. How is it a good idea to have cameras in your house all the time, to have cameras in your face when you go out in public, to be known as a "Gosselin", to not be an individual? It's not healthy! There should be laws to protect children in reality tv shows. When a child under 18 works on a television series, they are not allowed to film more than 4 hours a day! It's the law. A child under 4 is not allowed to work more than 2 hours. But these kids lives were filmed, their parent's divorce was filmed and they'll never get away from it!
@WildKamots Do you really believe that Kate would allow Colin to go ANYWHERE for this event. UNDERSTAND THIS. Kate sent Colin Away to a "special" boarding school OVER TWO YEARS AGO.and it was probably during that time that he was conveniently "at a friends". KATE HAS NEVER EVEN BROUGHT HIM HOME TO VISIT HIS SIBLING, NOT EVEN FOR BIRTHDAYS, HOLIDAYS, CHRISTMAS...NADA. You really have bought in to Kate's propaganda machine. You need to understand what really happened before you comment.
@WildKamots They had press following them because they are tv personalities now. That's what Kate signed up for when she started this venture, and lobbied for it to continue when it stopped. Also, those who are skeptical and critical of Kate's version of the Colin situation, are not blindly following media reports. They're thinking for themselves. The media, much like you, don't dispute or question Kate's version... The notion that we don't live there or really see their lives, so don't know how bad Colin is, doesn't fly. It's fair to say he's spent more than half his young life in front of the cameras. I'm betting a large part of his personality is what we see on camera. You really think he turns into this beastly, unmanageable Dr. Hyde as soon as the cameras go off? A child, who as Kate puts it, was "affecting the entire family" so much that he had to be raised in a group home by mental professionals? She's said how much of a relief it is. How does she even sleep at night? Lastly, you may have heard of a couple of shows where he joined his family.. (at least one of them was before he left) He still isn't there near enough. Kate appears to have effectively isolated her kids from all extended family.. His immediate family seems to be all he has. He's a SEXTUPLET; been with his fellow sixes from the womb. How will this arrangement affect his relationship with them? To feel estranged from his family and their activities? Is that better for his "behavioral problems"? Could he have gone to outpatient therapy and a special school where he comes home at the end of the day? Millions of kids do. Again, is he really a threat to himself and his household? These are the questions many viewers are asking. Doesn't come from news stories, cuz those stories aren't out there. (Sorry abt the length)
@WildKamots True. One thing we can all agree on: it's not our lives to live. We're on the outside looking in. Im sure most of us hope for the best for this special family
Who is watching this after Jon appeared on Dr. Oz?
noo would LOVE to know what these siblings think now with what Kate did with Colin?
Kate and TLC should be charged with child abuse. Poor kids...hope they all do well.
noo I am. 11/26/19. I knew Kate was a witch and she treated Jon like a servant, not a spouse or partner. She’s using those kids as a cash cow to maintain her lifestyle with no regard to the long term affects for the children.
Kate is a fruitcake. Should have never been a mother
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And now it’s 2019 and we all now know that aunt Jodi and the uncle are telling the truth! Katie was and still is a monster
monster is putting it lightly!
@@nancysimmons2225 If not now, they will be old enough to make up their own minds on seeing their relatives. I liked the aunt and uncle. They seemed to be a good influence with their niece and nephews, except don't give them gum. lol
I hope Jon, Jodi and the Uncle Kevin reconnect now. So at least Hannah and Collin can have them in their life again.
Jon got a ten year gag order, hes only recently been able to speak for himself, how ridiculous it is to not be able to publicly stick up for yourself or your children because of a fucking TLC contract. Good for Jodi for speaking out even in 2008.
If she was that mean on camera to him can you imagine what she was like when they weren't filming?
I remember when this interview aired and people just said they were jealous. Fast forward and you’ll see they were being real!
When people speak out and against what’s popular they are always painted in a bad light/crazy but the truth will always come to light.
@@mssha1980 This is so true. Sadly most times its alreally to late.
And right!!!
Jon has always been Kate’s door mat. They didn’t “swiftly turn into 2 different people” He just got tired of her bs and finally put his foot down.
Alabama Beauty I’m surprised he lasted as long as did! I just watch some clips called “ugly moments” from their show and she treated him with such disrespect. She is a vile person. I feel sorry for those children.
Eastern Shawnee I know, it’s awful! On one of those she was literally complaining about the way he was breathing!! RIDICULOUS! She needs help!
She divorced him because he didn’t want to film anymore and he just wanted his kids to have a normal life away from the cameras
Alabama Beauty and she emasculated him in front of millions
He was embarrassed
@@mayam5353 Anyone who is against the show she cut them from her life.
Why aren’t reality shows considered “work” those kids should’ve been protected by child labor laws!!!
Same w family vlogging
Once they all turned 18 they get paid for their time on the show
TLC should be held liable & laws need to change now that two of the children have been deemed irreparably damaged.
Amen sister. Agree 100%
Shannon Condella Which kids? Colin? Who else?
Hannah
@@Yourlocalpsycem Yes, it's Hannah; who also has moved in with Jon and his S/O. Those children needed it! Cannot wait to find out more information!
Their parents agreed to it.
Aunt Jodi was the nicest lady. Kate always dumping all her kids with her. She was so sweet with all those kids, like a real mother should be.
You can clearly hear the hurt in his voice... The guy is genuinely hurt by Kate shutting him and the kids out of his life...
It would be interesting to know what Kate and her brother's home life was growing up, and what the relationship is currently with her parents.
@@marymcmilleon2821 My guess is that Mom or Dad or both were Narcissists. Ironically, Kate's brother seems to have a personality like Jon (Not a bad thing, just caring, sensitive type), so, with that dynamic, I guarantee, Kate's parents displayed the same dynamic to them. Kate has deeper issues that cause her to be cold and emotionally unavailable but she is definitely abusive in nature (My opinion). I would guess her Mother was the same as her or worse.
Here I am in 2022 and it came up on my RUclips, I didn't go looking for it. But I'll take a look.
@@marymcmilleon2821I think Kate’s father abused all of his kids but Kate was abused the worst because she was a typical teenager and didn’t like following his strict rules. Kind of like Kate abusing Collin more than his siblings because he wouldn’t follow her strict rules. I think it’s sad that people abused as children would abuse their own kids. I was emotionally abused as a kid and I would never want that for my kids. I grew up in a household where after my dads death all my mom would do is yell.
Who’s looking back now that everything is coming out?
That what I have been doing.
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NDAs always expire 😉
I was on heroin to Kate after about the first season. It was cringeworthy to listen to her speak to John.
Tracey Reed many of us!
We need more people like this speaking out!!
Aunts/Uncles/ Cousins/Brothers/ Sisters/Mothers/Fathers
Y'all, let's COME TOGETHER!
They called it. Kate even sent Collin away for 2yrs to live in some secret institution bc he had adhd and was difficult to film with. She literally sent him aeay and told us all he was special needs. The kids is totally normal, just has adhd. Like wtf Kate, you monster.
I have a child that is grown that is ADHD and also has a Thought processing deficit. Yes it was hard but you adapt and you get into a mode of learning all that you can do to help your child. He graduated from High School, keeps a job and has a family of his own, just doing Great. I am so proud of him. So sending a child away I cannot imagine, I didn’t have that many children, only 3, but I understand she had Nannies so I just don’t understand why. Just my opinion I believe she is cruel.
Although, Jon recently disclosed that he doesn’t have special needs + now has full custody of Collin. Thank god for Collin.
Collin was there 3 years before being rescued by his Father.
Her kids will end up being like her too. Collin would be better off with a family member taking care of him instead of an institution. Learn to work with a disabled kid. It teaches patience, understanding, compassion, inclusiveness, as well as encouraging independence for the child with the disability.
@@ozfreak26 Sad part is he really didn't have a disability. He has/had ADHD and she couldn't handle it. Thankfully, his Dad finally found where he was and fought for custody and has been living with him for over a year now. I hear Collin is very hurt about what his Mother did to him.💔
Don't know why YT recommended this but it's 2022 and aunt Jodi and uncle Kev were spot on about this.
NO Kate chose their Path, Jon wanted it stopped for a very long Time but Madam Kate was having none of it
At first Jon was passive but then he stood up to Kate in 2009
It’s all Kate Kate Kate! She took over and Jon was just tagging along.
How is it her when HE CHEATED. He cheated with the nanny and got caught and then he didn’t want to film the divorce. He didn’t stop filming until he was caught being a nasty pig.
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He didn't cheat, you have to watch the utube clips of Jon on a recent Dr.Oz it's very enlightening
@@arlizan430 They were already divorced when he dated others but TLC made ppl think they were still together. Because of gag order from TLC, he couldn't speak up.
sgcl10658 I don’t believe that
@@arlizan430 He didn't cheat. He was already divorced when he was dating other women. The public was fooled because on TV he was seen as married, but in reality while this aired, he was already divorced.
I wonder what Kevin and Jodie would say now...8 years later....with all that is being revealed about their nephew, Collin, and the abuse he endured in his mother's home and in the mental institution that Kate put him in....this facility that took this 12 year old child WITHOUT a proper diagnosis and without telling his father where the child was for 3 years....and they subjected this 12 year old to MORE physical, mental and psychological abuse and kept him drugged and sedated and isolated. And he was apparently 75lbs overweight when Jon rescued him. Thank GOD his roommate was able to smuggle Collin's letter (which was a heart-wrenching plea for his father to rescue him) to Jon and Jon was able to rescue his son from this place and from what I read, he seems to be happy and thriving at his father's home. He's making straight A's in school, he's bonding with his father again, he's in therapy and healing from all the abuse and he's hoping to create a better future for himself AWAY from his mother's abusive home.
This the reason Kate cut her brother and his wife out of her life and the rest of her sibings and their parents.
GRRRRRRRR.....Can't stand that Kate. Hope the kids do well and have a good future ahead. Fingers crossed.
Really eye opening that in his desperate plea for help to his father, Collin wrote “I’m YOUR son, not hers”
CeltycSparrow Thank goodness for Jon...at least they have one good parent to advocate.
Hannah lives with him too. She gets it.
Who's here in 2023
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Cameras in then kids’ bedroom? That’s way too invasive, how could a mother allow that?
Well when said mother only cares about fame and attention she'll do just about anything. It's disgusting.
TLC definitely ruined the family! I hate how they even film the kids crying!!! Jon even hated this and other stuff producers forced onto the kids when he confirmed it on his Dr. Oz interview.
@@katherinejordan8018 YES, I agree 💯! Even family channels too!
I never understood that. Why did they need to film them pooping, undressing, bathing, napping, turning off the light& closing the door in their bedroom while a cameraman is still there while they take a nap, having a single person filming a kid alone in their bedroom??? It's gross that Kate allowed TLC to film them like that. They had no privacy!
So many people did not believe them when this first aired, but I always did. I thought they did this because they really cared about their nieces & nephews and were just trying to protect them. Now after hearing Jon’s recent interviews, it is proof that they were telling the truth.
I think Jodi & Kevin were maybe trying to speak for Jon back then since Jon had been ordered not to tell anybody through the gag order. Maybe they felt this was the only way they could get through to everybody about what was really going on. I wonder if Jon ever reunited with them afterwards, they seem like they were more on his side about things.
Wow!! They called it!! Hannah literally ran from it and colin was sent away because he refused to comply! I hope they get to see them at least now they living with john.
8 years ago and Jon is saying the exact same thing today.
I heard Kate got mad when the brother and sister in law asked to be paid. She’s a evil little witch
What happened is the production company suggested they become regular additions to the show and would get paid because of it. It was the production company's idea. When Kate heard she'd have to share the spotlight, she put an end to it. They appeared on the show less.
Oh that's the gum lady...
Boy that episode was fucked up how kaye did Collin with his teddy all because it had gum on it.
Punishing them so dramatically to scare them into constantly walking on eggshells so she could play them like puppets forever!
But remember, Aunt Jodie let the 3 year olds chew gum. That means she is unfit to know what a child needs. According to Kate anyway 😒
Amanda it’s gum😂🤦🏾♂️lady is dramatic, why can’t her kids live a little and be a little fun
Emanuel M lol I know I didn’t do a good job showing my sarcasm 😅🤣
I always thought it was a right of passage to get gum in your hair and have to cut it out
I could've sworn it was Lauren.
Tae Tui it was
Had that baby crying cause she was throwing his bear in the trash because of a little gum.
That "Karen" haircut tells you all you need to know about kate
A day late and a dollar short but now we see that their uncle and Aunt truly loved them
WOW. The were ahead of the time but actually lived* it first hand. "Change the laws protecting kids on reality TV" That's powerful stuff. Did they ever do it? Like did it get changed I mean?
Bitto One yea they can only film for certain hours now
Wow they need to be on Jon's side now.
Call it the gosselin law for child protection
Now there needs to be laws on family vloggers
Kate was nuts from day one and I am saying this very nicely
I stopped watching after seeing her abuse her husband and kids. Can't figure out why anyone would want to watch her shows. All that does is put more money in her greedy little hands. She lives for the fame and the money.
I want to hear her brother go off about how Kate is a huge narcissist.
If Jon had gotten the kids from the get-go, then none of this mess would've happened. Kate Plus 8 wouldn't have started, Collin wouldn't have been sent away and then everything would've been fine.
Years after this aired, one can see the damage to the family and the children.
I agree we need new laws for reality shows especially protecting the children. Maybe we should all stop watching
Amen. Stop watching this crap. One day I watch the multiple episodes of Jon & Kate Plus 8 and with disgusted. I watch the Duggar family once. This is before it became famous for the son sexually abusing his children. I thought what is this weird show and this weird family. Never watched again eta I don't watch anything on TLC anymore. That network is in turn into the trash Network.
genuinely a brother who was concerned for his sister and her family!
I don't doubt for a second that Kate mainly did the show for financial security for their kids. Let's be honest, each kid will need minimum 200k for their education, marriage, etc. 1.6 million in cash is impossible to be saved from a couple who works IT and Nursing.
I know this is an old comment of yours but I just wanted to update the financial issue. Kate, earlier year, 2018, that SHE IS BROKE to the point that she had no way to pay the very large balloon payment due this year. They live on a 26 acre estate in a 6200 square foot home. Kate has had MULTIPLE NANNIES, She wears designer clothing and shoes. She has her children in private schools and she, of course sent Colin to a Boarding School for "life skills" issues. She NEVER ONCE brought him home for a visit that was around three years ago. She claimed that the School DID NOT ALLOW COLLIN TO VISIT HOME, EVER! Jon had to go to Court to learn where his own son was because KATE WOULD NOT TELL HIM WHERE COLLIN WAS. JON now visits Collin and has started bringing him home for WEEKENDS AND COLLIN SPENT THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY with HANNAH AND JON. So, once again KATE LIED. SHE DID PUT THAT CHILD IN A 24 HOUR 365 DAYS PER YEAR OVER NIGHT BOARDING SCHOOL B.C. AND JUST LEFT HIM. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT SHE HAS BEEN VISITING HIM IN HIS SCHOOL...EVER. COLLIN WAS NEVER OUT OF THE BOARDING SCHOOL MOST LIKELY WHEN MOST, IF NOT ALL THE OTHERS, WERE GONE, COLLIN WAS LEFT...NOT INVITED HOME. HE HAS MISSED TWO BIRTHDAYS WITH THE REST OF HIS SIBLINGS, AND EVERY SINGLE HOLLIDAY IN OVER TWO AND A HALF YEARS! COLLIN'S WEEKEND VISIT TO HIS DAD'S, WAS THE FIRST TIME HE HAD BEEN IN JON'S HOME IN THREE YEARS. Collin, Hannah and Jon spent their birthday together at their school. Jon already has Permanent Custody of Hannah and has now applied for permanent Custody of Collin. I hope he is successful because he really wants to live with Jon. COLLIN had reported to his Counselors that Kate had been abusing him. I believe him. Sorry this is so long. Just wanted to let you know of the changes.
They didn't save, but lived extravagantly and she's now bankrupt. The kids definitely could have qualified for financial aid, so saying she sacrificed their childhood so she could one day send them to college, just doesn't cut it.
You do know that public school does not cost a darn thing right.
How about don't have so many kids if you can't afford them?
What if I told you she only got pregnant for fame and even forced herself to have that many kids for fame...she never wanted kids she only wanted to be rich and famous.
Can’t wait until all of her kids are adults and write books about her
Chrissy: Me too!
Even before the gag order I remember Jon wanting the children to stop being exploited also, obviously no judge Kate and Jon went before was a good judge of character. Although Kate is very good at being deceptive and also could play the poor me part well. She should be in jail for what she did to Collin alone. I hope it somehow works out for the children still left in her care.
She should’ve been arrested for alienating the kids from their dad
If a mother has money which Kate did and no arrest record the judge will most likely side with the mom.
@@nicoleackerman205 plus TLC was paying for everything!! They paid for her divorce and her custody battle against Jon. When you have high power attorneys on your side you have a better chance at winning whatever you’re facing. She even took money out of the kids trust fund that they had from the show and now apparently they don’t have anything from the years of exploitation they suffered. I hope her kids realize what actually happened and don’t just believe whatever she tells them. It’s perfectly clear she alienated the children from their father and the siblings who chose to live with him. I can’t believe she literally locked Collin away and just abandoned her own child. She wouldn’t even tell the court where he was so Jon couldn’t get custody of him! Oh don’t forget after he finally gets out through smuggling a letter out with his roommate who had outside privileges, she turns his siblings against him! 😡 that is some evil shit and I can’t believe she has most of the kids still under her spell.
I am surprised at the negativity directed towards Kate's brother and wife. They are just being straight forward and they knew Jon didn't want the kids forced to film another year. I think they truly thought they were helping by stating what they observed over the 6 or so years.They didn't make up anything, nor did they get paid.
They love those kids and the kids loved them.
Exactly
@Lourdes Betancourt Well, you save $150,000 per year on Private school. You don't send one child to a Full time Boarding school when he is 12 years old for over 2 1/2 years. You don't have designer clothes and shoes...only for yourself. YOU DON'T EMPLOY A FULL TIME CHEF. (You didn't really believe she was cooking EVERY MEAL, CANNING, BAKING, PUMPKIN PICKING.) You don't retain a personal FULL TIME bodyguard for YOURSELF... WITH YOUR HUSBAND AT HOME. You don't hold onto, or better yet buy, a multi-million dollar, multi-acreage ESTATE. You GET A JOB. JON DID. Kate NEVER WORKED AFTER THE SHOW STARTED EXCEPT FOR WRITING A BLOG FOR A COUPON concern FROM WHICH SHE WAS FIRED AFTER A SHORT TIME FOR CONTINUAL RUDENESS TO CUSTOMERS. YOU DON'T GO THROUGH FORTY NANNIES IN VERY FEW YEARS. YOU DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE NANNIES SOME OF WHOM LIVED IN YOUR HOME EVEN WHEN YOU WERE HOME. YOU DON'T TRAVEL EXTENSIVELY WITHOUT THE KIDS. YOU DON'T TAKE A BODYGUARD, ALL HIS EXPENSES PAID OF COURSE, ON THOSE TRIPS WITHOUT THE KIDS. That's just for starters.
C Swank, I did hear a rumor that TLC offered to pay Jodi and Kevin since they seemed to be a big part of the children's lives. Kate said no. She was not going to let anyone else profit from her and her children. I saw no reason why they shouldn't pay them. They helped out so much with children. Kate treated Jon like he was a dog. I couldn't figure out how he hung in there so long. When she was going on "Dancing with the Stars", her partner Tony did not think much of her. I felt sorry for him because I think he was the most patient of any of the pro dancers and she tried to boss him around, telling him how to show her how to dance.
C Swank I agree totally.
Tlc should be ashamed I won’t watch them
Same here! Plus all they have on every single day is that horrible show 90 Day Finacè! Fuck TLC. Kate has always been and always will be a narcissist and money hungry bitch.
Agree! BOYCOTT TLC!
Thank God for you two!
Fell down a rabbit hole with rewatching a bit of the original show. THEN I find another series by TLC that started in 2018 about another couple who had sextuplets.
Nothing has changed 😢
I cant wait for one of the kids to write a book. Just like kids on thier parent social media like doughtery dozen and such
Remember when Aunt Jodi gave them gum! Hahahaha
J Kub and poor Collin - she was throwing away his little bear and taunting him about it. Mean!!
@@carolsparks7286 Collin will never forget that. My aunt threw away my little white toy dog. He went everywhere with me. I did something wrong and my aunt threw my little dog away. I am 63 and I still have sad thoughts about that and more than a little anger towards my aunt. Poor Collin suffered horrible emotional abuse from his mother. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if one of those children gets some kind of revenge on Kate when they get older. Watch for it to happen.
That's when their relationship fell apart. She spoke about it online. After being lambasted for giving them gum -- and not thanked for watching eight extra kids that day -- it really upset Jodi.
@@HummingbirdEighty8 when I was about that age, my mum threatened to throw out all my toys because I wasn’t cleaning up fast enough. She brought out a garbage bag and started throwing them all in there. I started cleaning up and got them all back but I was crying and begging my mum not to. I still remember that day clear as ever, while my mum has no recollection saying she would never do anything like that.
Who’s willing to be that Kate would be claiming the same if it weren’t for the footage?
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Well said and I hope that you both have a wonderful relationship with John because he was always on your side.
I dont think they are jelous. they showed there house and they live pretty well. if they were jealous they would of talked bout money and not the kid's mental health after this...i thought this was great because somebody needs to come out and screams at the politics for laws when kids are in tv
Never thought hey were jealous. They are stating facts it’s obvious Kate’s a psychopath. What are they suppose to do not speak up? NarcissistslikeKate love to paint someone as jealous just so they feel good about themselves they are so pathetic and evil.
Regardless of where they live and what they have or don’t have they have a right to their opinion but really these are facts.
You were correct!!
It’s amazing that the opinion of her brother and sister in law and a
all of their concerns. Turned out to be true. Hind sight is definitely twenty twenty.
If only an intervention had been done during this interview time frame.
That's why john got the the show to stop...even though it was breach of contract with TLC!
The 5th birthday episode was the saddest...
Two awesome people. They truly care.
They are 100% right that there needs to be laws around child labor in the form of 'reality TV'. You can't be yourself if there is a camera there.
Kate has turned from mom into diva.
this may be a 2 y/o comment, but i wholeheartedly agree.
This is what Kate wanted. After about the 3rd season John was done. He asked for it to be over but if he wanted to keep his family together. He had to continue the show because the bully Kate said it was the show or he could leave.
Cameras should not be in their bedrooms or 24 / 7. But, you do need a good source of income to take care of 8 children. Start thinking in these terms.
I watch one of the clips when one of the kids was in the bathroom and I like that is not acceptable
Kate didn't care as long she is the limelight.
Don’t have kids if u can’t support them. Selling their souls for money u should be ashamed Kathleen go back to church
Nicky M exactly!! I agree.
By exploiting their own children? It’s not right.
It's amazing what thruth came from the sister-in-law. Just about everything she said was what Jon said on the Dr. Oz show Ten+ years later that really did happen. That bitch of a "mother" put Collin in an institution and left him there to lay in a drug induced fog. Would not tell Jon where he was. Poor kid smuggled a letter written in crayon to his dad. When he read that on the Dr. Oz show it made me cry. He is a changed kid now. If you haven't watch that interview you should. He had a Ten year gag order on him. Now he gets to tell his side. And it isn't flattering to Kate at all.
These twins that were on didn't want to talk I wonder what mom made them say .it is terrible those poor kids
FACTS 👏🏻
They care about their nieces and nephews vs Kate and Jon (mainly Kate, I think)! I'm so happy there are family members out there that are against (don't like) reality TV shows and exploitation! These people are smart. Poor Kids 😞.
I bet he was kates emotional and verbal punching bag growing up before she started dating and moving that abuse onto her partners. I feel bad for him, growing up with Kate as a sister.
People say Jodi and Kevin were jealous but they were right all along. Look what happened to the Gosselins'. Divided. And the children are caught in the middle. 2:26 I wouldn't be surprised to Kate said this.I believe Jon began understanding this leading to the divorce between Jon and Kate. Jon did push camera crew out of the house in some points. Kate was scared Jon will get them fired. At the end Jon quit, Kate got fired a whole entire decade later and the kids are caught in the middle.
i don't think that the show was a form of entertainment for me, it helped me to understand how hard it is for parents to raise so many children on their own. It's like the discovery channel, helped me understand something that will soon be in history books. i luved their show and still do, i just hope, like the aunt and uncle that the children are safe and happy! :)
I would like to here from them now and what they think now and if they get to see the kids now
Money money money. Big house plastic surgery new teeth. Oh wait that’s what Kate got plus body guard.
I m from Greece and it will never be allowed for children to be on reslity. Laws here dont ever allow minors to be on a simple interview. What s wrong with your laws America?
Litsa Koutoula it’s not America....child labor laws differ from state to state. States like California have more strict rules bc there are a lot of children actors but in Pennsylvania...it is up to the parent in some situations.
America is trash!
629 ur trash....🤢
What is wrong with your economy Greece?
@@willstinson4711 irrelevant
They didn't save, but lived extravagantly and Kate's now broke. The kids definitely could have qualified for financial aid, so saying she sacrificed their childhood so she could one day send them to college, just doesn't cut it.
Financial aid like a peasant? Hmmph. Kate wouldn't have that.
There is Trust for each child. The children are not broke!
Well she could let her husband talk without over talking him. He starts to answer a question and she takes over.
This poor guy is like Jon. She takes charge over every question. He can’t even speak. Geesh!
Sheila Johnson right. I’m like okay Jodi it’s not your sister
I think he was starting to cry so she answered
Kate would talk terrible to John. She would berate him accuse him call him names and treat him like he was a 5 year old. She was very disrespectful to him.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe that kind of thing runs in the family. The women lead the family and some are just meaner than others.
@@tinarogers2181 He's Kate's brother, not the woman. I think she tried to help him right at the start but that she is also NERVOUS! It's a lot to be on TV.
It’s amazing that none of the extended family members are in the show. I guess she doesn’t want anyone else in her spotlight. Maybe she should go where Colin is. !
The Show offered to pay her brother and sister in law. When Kate found out she was LIVID! She told the show that NO ONE would be paid except her. Period. So brother and sister in law were cut out of her life. She then went on a campaign to smear them because they spoke out about the kids being on the show stating the kids having told her that they didn't like the the cameras there ALL THE TIME. Kate filed suit, as she did if anyone told the TRUTH about the show and its negative effects on the children. Again, she dropped the suit because she COULD NOT WIN BECAUSE THEY WERE TELLING THE TRUTH. SHE certainly could not prove otherwise.
@@cynthiaburrus3901 How do you know so much? I keep coming across your name and each time it's something new about Kate's life. Not trying to rag on your or anything just curious.
@@oneinvisibledoctor About a year and a half ago, I had learned about Collin. I have just read a lot and learned from many sources, books, newspapers, internet, interviews, etc., about Jon's issues in not getting to see his kids as Court ordered. Kate refused first, to tell him Collin was gone. He learned from the kids. Then she refused to tell him where he was. We have a close family friend who has been going through a similar situation and I know how devastating it has been for the dad. It doesn't take a lot to look up what is current. You can look up Jon's Twitter and hear from him where they are now. I am frankly, just happy to see him with two of his children with the lady he loves and her kids. I'm the grandmother to 9...ages 11 to 22. So no, I'm not nuts. I just have been rooting for him, Hannah and Collin. There are a few of us who post quite a bit. I appreciate when they add to the narrative. But I see Jon's family situation as being resolved for the these two children. Unless one of the other kids decides that they want to live with their Dad, and I haven't seen anything that would suggest that, this chapter seems to be closed.
The family probably didn't want to be part of this mess
Jacqueline Dockweiler Kate doesnt talk to her parents and Jon's mom lives another state. They have very small extended family
Thank god those kids are all adults now. I know she damaged Collin but it will be difficult to see if the others have problems as well. That being said, Collin did his first interview as an adult and he was extremely well-spoken and level headed.
Relatives & friends just coming over for a "visit" not being filmed & that that can't happen is not normal! I agree with Jodi & Kevin that Kate is the one enjoying the fame, money & notoriety! These kids at some point are going to want their lives back!!! Sure the money is providing a lot for this large family but it's a bigger price tag than anyone realizes!
Janet Campbell they have their lives. They get to go to a nice school, afford a decent house, and live comfortably. They get to be themselves on TV
@@MusicSeason22 But there is a limit. Too much camera time would lead to rebellion because there will be times when the kids don't want the cameras and just want to be left alone.
How Right were these people
These folks are speaking truth.
I think Jon would have quit but Kate wouldn't let him.
What's sad the kids have told their aunt and uncle that they dont like the cameras, and in interviews with the kids, when they're asked if they like being in tv the kids look at their mom then smile and says they love it.
@LightlyLexi You are right about one thing - the kids don't mind anymore but it's because something Jodi said finally got through Kate's head. Kate allowed camera's to go into the kids bedrooms which meant they didn't have a private place in their home they could escape too, Near the end Kate finally said No Camera's in the bedrooms. Which is what Jodi said was all they were concerned about - the kids having a place to go when they didn't want the camera in their face.
Every time Kevin starts talking, the interviewer interrupts him and asks Jodi another question. That's so weird! Anyway.... I do agree that it's not a great environment for the kids. Each of those cameras comes with a camera MAN (or woman) who is just always there watching them every day. That's.... weird.
Kate, turned into a smoke show, controlling the roost, making bank.
Talk about long term damage that these kids will be carrying over as they move on to be Adults.
Why does Kate always ask herself questions and then answer them, i.e., "did I ever see myself on the front of a tabloid"? No.
Because subconsciously she only cares about herself. That's why it's always "I, I, I.."
LOL she does this constantly I've noticed
Because the interviewer asked the question (tlc) and she doesn’t know how to put the answer in the response. Because the interviewers are not supposed to be heard.
Your response on reality TV has to have the question in it. My husband has done some TV so that's the only reason I know this lol
@@savants08 Thank you for your response.
they can tell the camera crew not to film them
just becuase theyre related to kate doesnt mean that they must appear in the show...
i dont see how this is any different then when celebrities have kids...
Anyone been watching jons interviews lately????
manda Draper Yes! Has he done more than Dr Oz?
They both tried to help those kids. It’s really sad that it turned out this way. Jodi and Kate’s brother completely had the children’s best interest at heart ❤ It breaks my heart, that they saw this coming 💯%
Hello and then Dance Moms comes along. We do need to protect these children! They are too young to go against their parents and the parents think this is what’s best for them because of the opportunity. Kids need to be kids and be allowed to mess up and grow up without everyone judging and criticizing.
Now rewatching the series, omg it did get so awkward in season 4. Kate always ragged on him but you see it go from playful nagging with her tapping his thigh and leaning into him to both of them crossed arms, giving each other dirty looks. I always liked Kevin and Jodi. Glad they spoke out.
I think the nagging was never playful in my opinion. It was appalling. It taught the children how to speak and treat others.
Kate Gosselin is the reason the phrase "you should never hit a woman" is no longer universally accepted.
Lol. Who ever couldn't see Karen..um..Kate wasn't a monster is either blind, acting like her, or been abused into thinking that was normal. You do not berate your mate like that in a restaurant let alone national TV. This is proof tho, no matter how little you think something, other people might feel differently and when feelings aren't respected then people start looking for an out.
Jon and Kate loved the spotlight, money and trips it was obvious. With that you exploit your family and your kids suffer. Be careful what you wish for in life, fame is toxic.
With Kate in particular, I absolutely agree. Jon on the other agreed with documentary and reality TV at first. It was a test really to see if it might help pay the bills. Then by season 3 especially, he had absolutely enough, and in 2008 when people were filming, he got to points where he pushed camera crew out of the house. Kate was furious and petrified because she didn't want to get fried, and Jon didn't care if it lead to them being fired because he rather work for IT than him and family being exploited. It was very clear that it wasn't his job.
Can,t imagine what the 8 Chidrens think of all this?????
Now we know it’s all been Kate and Jon was basically just a slave who did what he was told. It’s sad this happened to Jon and the kids, Kate is a monster of a person. She only cares about herself and I’m glad TLC finally severed ties with her.
No one on here knows what goes on behind the cameras. Every person that has commented on here thinks that they know exactly what has happened. I feel like even though all of us have heard many sides of this story, we shouldn't be commenting negative things simply because we have no idea what goes on behind the scenes.
I wonder if she going to let the kids get mo ey from the video they where in or does Kate have control of that as well
this didnt have to be told..viewers already knew she was a controling witch..the way she treated her husband and her children particularly colin..was awful..she was more like a drill sargent than a loving wife and mother..they way she labeled her innocent child a trouble maker was shocking
The kid's lives are like the Truman Show. Poor kids
I agree, Kate is super at fault here, but even more at fault in my opinion is TLC! They had all the power here and Kate chose to be wooed by it.
I agree. They even went as far as to pay all her legal fees so she could retain custody of the kids and let them keep filming despite Jon's objections.
Kate Gosselin is the reason the phrase "you should never hit a woman" is no longer universally accepted.
At the start of all of this people where interested in a dad mom with 8 kids than they went on to making the show jon and kate needed the money as the kids got older they needed more but actually we all have to realize kate changed. Because she was the one with 8 kids in a small hose for 24/7 she got stressed!! And TLC should think on the kids there is times when they shouldt be filming some moments like kids crying, or alone time with the family is fine 1 day or 2 but not the whole time. later kate did get a little worse with the cameras but it can happen to everyone. And if she wants to get back on TV its to pay a million dollar house that they need, food for 9, school, security, taxes, collage, family time, and even more think about this instead of just saying stuff that you are not even sure of.
They keep saying "they want this"....We all know now that it was only Kate the real problem 🤬🤬🤬
I believe John but he wanted it as well in the beginning. Eventually he wanted out after it became too much.
@@mssha1980 he thought it would help pay the bills, but enough was enough and he rather stick to being an I.T. analyst.
I remember the episode where aunt Jodi gave the kids chewing gum... and Kate freaked!! Calling Jodi and bitching her out! Well it did get on everything. 😂
Turns out Kate was a control freak the entire time tho! Now the plastic surgery on her eyes matches her personality! She looks like an angry evil cat!
It heartbreaking to think of what she did to Collin!! I’m happy to hear he’s with his father & sister now. This entire story is heartbreaking!!
Lmao....she definitely looks more evil. Can't stand her. Hope the kids aren't too traumatized....especially Collin. He was my favorite.
So was just thinking, don't you think that chewing gum thing just might have been scripted? That's the one thing about reality shows they are far from real most are scripted for more drama and Jodi doesn't really look like she could be that dense as to give a three year old gum! Just something to ponder.....and Kate really liked to play super bitch and miss know it all on all episodes....soooo
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I’d think having eight kids running around would be enough drama... lol! But you could be right! 🤷♀️
I don't think anyone should judge them.
Agreec100%
@ClaireMusicLove You aren't hearing her. She is saying it started off innocently, only being filmed a few hours a week and only certain moments which was okay. She drew the line when cameras were put in their bedrooms - their only private place in their home taken from them, and when they started being filmed more an more. Also if you watch older episodes they only allowed the film crew in their house for a few hours not the kids whole stay at their house.
Hope Jon still has contact with them
From the time the show started, at least by the time they were half way through season 1, it was so rare to see Mady and Cara smile. I eventually stopped watching it because Mady and Cara looked so unhappy, even angry sometimes. I think the little kids loved it because of all the extra attention and it's all they knew from the time they were infants but it's hard enough to live with 3 brothers and 3 sisters and be a twin. How is it a good idea to have cameras in your house all the time, to have cameras in your face when you go out in public, to be known as a "Gosselin", to not be an individual? It's not healthy! There should be laws to protect children in reality tv shows. When a child under 18 works on a television series, they are not allowed to film more than 4 hours a day! It's the law. A child under 4 is not allowed to work more than 2 hours. But these kids lives were filmed, their parent's divorce was filmed and they'll never get away from it!
acutally not a lot of people know the "gosselins" so they are individuals still
@@FroggieToast Hardly. They have been tabloid fodder for over a decade.
@WildKamots Do you really believe that Kate would allow Colin to go ANYWHERE for this event. UNDERSTAND THIS. Kate sent Colin Away to a "special" boarding school OVER TWO YEARS AGO.and it was probably during that time that he was conveniently "at a friends". KATE HAS NEVER EVEN BROUGHT HIM HOME TO VISIT HIS SIBLING, NOT EVEN FOR BIRTHDAYS, HOLIDAYS, CHRISTMAS...NADA. You really have bought in to Kate's propaganda machine. You need to understand what really happened before you comment.
@WildKamots They had press following them because they are tv personalities now. That's what Kate signed up for when she started this venture, and lobbied for it to continue when it stopped. Also, those who are skeptical and critical of Kate's version of the Colin situation, are not blindly following media reports. They're thinking for themselves. The media, much like you, don't dispute or question Kate's version...
The notion that we don't live there or really see their lives, so don't know how bad Colin is, doesn't fly. It's fair to say he's spent more than half his young life in front of the cameras. I'm betting a large part of his personality is what we see on camera. You really think he turns into this beastly, unmanageable Dr. Hyde as soon as the cameras go off? A child, who as Kate puts it, was "affecting the entire family" so much that he had to be raised in a group home by mental professionals? She's said how much of a relief it is. How does she even sleep at night? Lastly, you may have heard of a couple of shows where he joined his family.. (at least one of them was before he left) He still isn't there near enough. Kate appears to have effectively isolated her kids from all extended family.. His immediate family seems to be all he has. He's a SEXTUPLET; been with his fellow sixes from the womb. How will this arrangement affect his relationship with them? To feel estranged from his family and their activities? Is that better for his "behavioral problems"? Could he have gone to outpatient therapy and a special school where he comes home at the end of the day? Millions of kids do. Again, is he really a threat to himself and his household? These are the questions many viewers are asking. Doesn't come from news stories, cuz those stories aren't out there. (Sorry abt the length)
@WildKamots True. One thing we can all agree on: it's not our lives to live. We're on the outside looking in. Im sure most of us hope for the best for this special family
Do Jodi and Kate still have contact or kate and Kevin?
yeah very true.
I find it strange none of the grandparents or uncles and aunts are ever on the show
Blame that on Kate she is selfish didn't want to share the money she was making off the show.
She never lets her husband talk either...Kate much?
Exactly !! She looks like she's a narcissist too ! She's so fake