11:05 that parry was clean. I had something similar happen in the caves one time was running a guy down with my barb and threw a franny at him and he spun around and parried it like that lol, I was like "you sir deserve to live, good luck" and left him be
He did lobbies with his entire inventory full of traps today on steam if you didn’t see. I feel like 3man it would actually be impossible not to step in teammate’s traps. You can at least pretend you know where your own traps are in solo lol
Damage also has to be reduced, a blue longbow can pretty much 2 shot everything that's not a fighter with armor, but I think all ranged weapons should have their damaged at least halved.
@@xenird ranger is the only class that punishes wizard, wizard punishes every geared fighter/ barb in the game.. Ranger has no chance of killing those guys.. lol
@@Murasame13 its hard for any class to clap barb especially in gray kit, wizard just has the best odds, maybe warlock now, warlocks starting to look pretty favorable in trio stacks
@@Murasame13 I think they should make zap an executioner ability by making it do more damage to the target the lower their health is. but yeah ranger will never be nerfed.
It's unironically good if you have good gear with a lot of weapon damage, just like fast rogue weapons benefit a shitton from stacking damage so does survival bow.
Tf bro?! That's like -600 gold a minute, and OP! Needs to be nerfed to -1k imo!!! #makearrowscostakeyeach *This comment is sponsored by 90% of the vocal community
After what IM did? Everything except Will and Strength, but Strength is hp and more melee damage so even that has a use, you need knowledge to bring more songs, agility to play them faster, and resourcefulness to make them last longer, and with the incredible nerfs to the songs making them virtually pointless to take its just hard, bard used to have at the very least 10 useful songs, now its almost less than 10
@@yukigami1717 nah not sick, its a disgrace, you dont see IM imposing such horribly brutal limitations to martial classes like Rogue and Ranger, for Bard to be effective you need a lot from 4 attributes, ranger and rogue? Weapon damage, thats it, you have 40-50% pdr? Dont worry, the rogue with a purple dagger that does 20 base damage has max weapon damage on every gear piece so even if you have like 100 hp and you halve all damage, that rogue will still kill you in 2-3 hit needing only one modifier, shame IM doesnt stick to any hard nerfs to martials because people who play those classes cry so damn hard they force IM to revert the nerfs and changes.
Well keep in mind Jay hit 36 arrows with a 19 damage bow which is the equivilant to 684 Damage. Gray/green plate can achieve 60% physical damage reduction max, and 60% of 684 is 410 leaving us with 274. A fighters base Hp is 100/120 with green, and even with second wind giving 50% Hp back, so with that logic Jay dealt enought damage to kill the man almost 2 fold. Tldr - He Should be Dead plate or not.@@jirilaska9788
@@AgXShawn Actually no; he probably wouldn't. The draw strength on that piece of shit rabbit killer would probably give you carpal tunnel before you pierced that guy's plate armor.
I'm the Warlock who died at 10:15 ~ish, Tried to hit you with curse of pain or something and failed so I tried to duck out of vision but you could still clearly see me xD. I'm so bad/new at this game LOL. ♥
he didnt use that many bandages (seems like he also canceled a few), and we couldnt see how was Jays bow, but dealing 3 hp max on a hit is CRAZY even if it is a leg shot! Seems like its literally impossible to deal with a fighter with a shield, without a spear, then
Literally every class can do this but Ranger has the most success doing so. There's nothing fair or fun about fighting a Ranger. Even low gear rangers outperform moderately geared wizards, but both fill a dps role.
@@venomous7321 I think it was playtest 4, so like a year ago? EDIT just make a naked ranger, shoot dummy at point blank, walk 10 meters back, shoot again and notice it will do like 10% less dmg
@@leonidrex3499 10% less isn’t enough. I keep getting one tapped from across the map by rangers on ruins. Sometimes they have the nerves to sit onto of the towers waiting for people to come. I want to see 70% at ranges like that
@@venomous7321 It can go way over 10% from across longer distances. I said 10% because thats about as much as you lose in normal ranges in crypts. I think it goes as far as 20% if you shoot from insane ranges.
Ranger my favorite but shit is so buggy, half the time arrows don't register, quick shot doesn't actually shoot and takes my cd. Arrows stop flying mid air... it's crazy.
@@LilStinkyRat18 dmg * .5 from leg hits = 9 * (1-.11(power)) = 8.01 * (1-.3(lowballing AR)) = 5.6 on a good day. *36 = ~202dmg. With second wind and meds, its not strange that the fighter survived. If you struggle with taking down tanky classes, a reduction in TTK through better impact zones or armor piercing weapons like crossbows would be far more effective due to meds having less effect. For example a white crossbow with crossbow perks would be 2-3 headshots for kill
Im confused. Are we complaining that it takes too long to kill fully plated tanks when you shoot them repeatedly in the legs with the weakest bow in the game? Or are we complaining that the fully plated tank can't catch you without help no matter what he does, because the game literally will not allow him to?
thats how it was before playtest 3 fighter was flying throught the map with a spear barb was insane rogue was one shotting ranger was broken as always and wizard was invis behind u missile arcane that was insane
@@efsfsesegsgesg8775 in pt3 wizard was legit rage inducing, geared wizard was 1taping with zap, could do as high as 160 dmg XD. legit haste invis, 0.5s cast time zap, dead
Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that's why I watch this on company time.
Hahahahaahahahah 😐
The corp gets the lump, that's why on company time, I pump.
@@salt-emojior dump
So true
@@lexfool3020 why not both? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
That fight vs the grey plate fighter was simultaneously one of the funniest and most intense Dark & Darker clips in a while
I could not stop laughing
When he just stopped and said "that's doing nothing to me bro" I laughed my ass off
Yeah nerf ranger theyre too stong takes 36+ arrows to kill is too little
Well think of it this way, he tickled him but there was absolutely no way for the guy to close the gap, pretty stupid imo. Freaking pin cushion
Dude. The amount of arrows he pumped into that Fighter was UNBELIEVABLE. Nerf Ranger.
hes using a grey bow and shooting his legs while hes using potions and bandages with heavy armor on.
Everbody gangsta until the guy parrys Jay's arrow.
11:05 that parry was clean. I had something similar happen in the caves one time was running a guy down with my barb and threw a franny at him and he spun around and parried it like that lol, I was like "you sir deserve to live, good luck" and left him be
he's playing ranger he now understands that arrows fly through fucking glue no matter what weapon you use
you should bring three people in with inventories full of hunting traps
He did lobbies with his entire inventory full of traps today on steam if you didn’t see. I feel like 3man it would actually be impossible not to step in teammate’s traps. You can at least pretend you know where your own traps are in solo lol
7:39 "I'm pulling out the AWP" I love it
absolutely crying about the fighter clip that was hilarious
Just add weapon/crosshair sway after 3 or so seconds, so they can’t hold angles forever. And completely remove the slow from arrow hits.
Just remove arrow slow it is very easy to hold a bow back for more than 3 seconds if you ain't got little pussy arms
Damage also has to be reduced, a blue longbow can pretty much 2 shot everything that's not a fighter with armor, but I think all ranged weapons should have their damaged at least halved.
1:19
This entire thing is just
"Why won't you die!?"
"NANO MACHINES, SON"
Ima need significantly more of these my friend
God damn this is a certified Jay classic and I’m only 1/4 through the video lmao
Guy that blocked that arrows must feel pretty damn good about it.
10:00 lmao "FiX tHe GaMe" as you miss every shot and forget that arrow travel is not instant...
I used to be an adventurer like you, until i took 36 arrows to the knee.
Ranger is the most brain-dead broken class that for SOME REASON never gets touched in balance... WHY?!
I think ranged classes deserve to feel some pain.
As a wizard I can confirm other ranged must feel the pain. Sacrifice you sanity for that reach!
@@xenird ranger is the only class that punishes wizard, wizard punishes every geared fighter/ barb in the game.. Ranger has no chance of killing those guys.. lol
@@dilonso8807penetrating shot plus quick shot can even the odds sometimes
@dilonso8807 bro really tried to say wizard claps barbarian 💀 😅
@@Murasame13 its hard for any class to clap barb especially in gray kit, wizard just has the best odds, maybe warlock now, warlocks starting to look pretty favorable in trio stacks
Dude that fight with the Fighter was the greatest thing I've seen in awhile
The fact that you can kite someone indefinitely is the dumbest thing ever, they need to do something about movement speed in this game.
10:15 Bro you whiffed by a mile...Hello?!
Was sus af bro when you took those shots through the smoke
11:06 bro a whole jedi
Yo is that Lethamyr playing Dark and darker? Never expected that, nevermind him playing with Jay
I for real thought the same thing. RL represent
These devs definitely know how to balance 😂😂
Make a better game then
dumbest comment of 2023 @@JimstrVids
@@JimstrVids Make a worse game.
@@JimstrVidsmad cause bad
I gotta say the dev balancing for this game is in complete shambles. They REFUSE to touch the one class that 1 taps across the room it's ridiculous.
But wizard is overpowered because zap... meanwhile Ranger has 60 zaps per fight and further range 💀
@@Murasame13 I think they should make zap an executioner ability by making it do more damage to the target the lower their health is. but yeah ranger will never be nerfed.
I’ve been un ironically using survival with ok gear and had lots of success with it it is so fun to shoot 50 arrows in 2 seconds 10/10 would recommend
nah, ill pass on wasting 4 stacks of arrows and the 12 slots of inventory
Trash build lmao use a longbow
It's unironically good if you have good gear with a lot of weapon damage, just like fast rogue weapons benefit a shitton from stacking damage so does survival bow.
Tf bro?! That's like -600 gold a minute, and OP! Needs to be nerfed to -1k imo!!! #makearrowscostakeyeach
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15:53 what kind of attributes do bards want on their music stuff?
After what IM did? Everything except Will and Strength, but Strength is hp and more melee damage so even that has a use, you need knowledge to bring more songs, agility to play them faster, and resourcefulness to make them last longer, and with the incredible nerfs to the songs making them virtually pointless to take its just hard, bard used to have at the very least 10 useful songs, now its almost less than 10
@@sawritall4292 sick. Thx man!
@@yukigami1717 nah not sick, its a disgrace, you dont see IM imposing such horribly brutal limitations to martial classes like Rogue and Ranger, for Bard to be effective you need a lot from 4 attributes, ranger and rogue? Weapon damage, thats it, you have 40-50% pdr? Dont worry, the rogue with a purple dagger that does 20 base damage has max weapon damage on every gear piece so even if you have like 100 hp and you halve all damage, that rogue will still kill you in 2-3 hit needing only one modifier, shame IM doesnt stick to any hard nerfs to martials because people who play those classes cry so damn hard they force IM to revert the nerfs and changes.
12:00 Jay got perried we all heard it
OMG at 9:57 I can totally relate to that HAHAHAHA
Constant leg shots with survival bow vs plate, yes its going to not do damage, rangers are the most consistent damage from range
True, but if you hit a guy with 36 arrows. Even to the leg with that amount of arrows anyone should've died there.
If you hit a guy with plate leggings from the from with a small survival bow he is not going to feel it at all@@AgXShawn
Well keep in mind Jay hit 36 arrows with a 19 damage bow which is the equivilant to 684 Damage. Gray/green plate can achieve 60% physical damage reduction max, and 60% of 684 is 410 leaving us with 274. A fighters base Hp is 100/120 with green, and even with second wind giving 50% Hp back, so with that logic Jay dealt enought damage to kill the man almost 2 fold. Tldr - He Should be Dead plate or not.@@jirilaska9788
@@AgXShawn Actually no; he probably wouldn't. The draw strength on that piece of shit rabbit killer would probably give you carpal tunnel before you pierced that guy's plate armor.
? I was talking about Jay he already did enough damage.@@spacehitler4537
survival bow gaming at its finest lol
hahaha that first death...LEL xd
I mean what you expect from a grey survival bow, you get to kite people forever shooting them in the legs so you shouldnt be 3 tapping people lol
Survival Bow Moment
I'm the Warlock who died at 10:15 ~ish, Tried to hit you with curse of pain or something and failed so I tried to duck out of vision but you could still clearly see me xD. I'm so bad/new at this game LOL. ♥
Reddit : Nerf ranger
YT : Nerf ranger
Ugandan ministry of foreign affaires : Nerf ranger
JayGriffyuh : LOGIC !!!
as a fighting game lover, dont nerf one class, buff the other classes
36 shots is wild, i cant stand the survival bow bro
What the actual fuck is that speed
I didnt realize you silenced him there in hell that was clutch
This is one of the most stressful videos I've seen
"This class sucks." Literally uses the worse bow in the game.
Got two shot by a ranger as a wizard, spooky stuff
Just gotta nerf longbow/traps and food then we'll be somewhere with this class.
i found jay in a high roller match and he gave me a rubysilver powder :)
11:05 the timing is insane on this block
I wanna see this w the elven bow of truth, i was thinkin of doin it before this wipe but i was poor
Are you playing with leth in this video?
10% arrow reduction perk + grey gear = survival bow healing him instead 😂
How much money would IronMace take to bring back my Ruins map.... 😭😭😭😭
I actually have no idea how it took 36 arrows I always died and still do die in three fucking hits
Starting at 1:29 and finishing at 3:47... after counting, you hit the knight 35 times. Nerf ranger frfr
Been waiting for thus
4:40 36 but at least half of em are on the legs so u r legit dealing him 1 or 2 max 3 hp each hit while he was healing with bandages and pots xD
he didnt use that many bandages (seems like he also canceled a few), and we couldnt see how was Jays bow, but dealing 3 hp max on a hit is CRAZY even if it is a leg shot! Seems like its literally impossible to deal with a fighter with a shield, without a spear, then
@@raulguimaraesreis6640man... Hes using basekit with survival bow, get a brain please
@@raulguimaraesreis6640that’s a survival bow that does 20 damage max if jackass used a longbow like a real archer 6 shots and that fighter is down
@@raulguimaraesreis6640 was a gray surv so 16 dmg
thats the joke
If you watch this and think I'm cheating then I'm at a loss for words
You are hacking
"Ranger is op" the meme is real. the only time ranger is any good is when they stack crazy + damage gear
Literally every class can do this but Ranger has the most success doing so. There's nothing fair or fun about fighting a Ranger. Even low gear rangers outperform moderately geared wizards, but both fill a dps role.
Yo your teammates at 9:00 sound like Lethamyr and Musty, some Rocket League streamers.
you shoot him on his legs and you use survival bow which is super fast ofcourse a plated fighter is not gonna die
This is such a funny video
Is this the same build Katie has been running after her wizard build got popular?
How many arrows?!
IRON HAMMER!!!!
Plz ironmace. Stop any class from doing full damage at range. All bows need a need asap
fun fact, arrows dont do full dmg at range
@@leonidrex3499 cap, ain’t no way. Since when?
@@venomous7321 I think it was playtest 4, so like a year ago?
EDIT
just make a naked ranger, shoot dummy at point blank, walk 10 meters back, shoot again and notice it will do like 10% less dmg
@@leonidrex3499 10% less isn’t enough. I keep getting one tapped from across the map by rangers on ruins. Sometimes they have the nerves to sit onto of the towers waiting for people to come. I want to see 70% at ranges like that
@@venomous7321 It can go way over 10% from across longer distances. I said 10% because thats about as much as you lose in normal ranges in crypts. I think it goes as far as 20% if you shoot from insane ranges.
Hey, why dont you try an ignite survival bow build? maybe stack some additional magic damage on the ranger, it might be pretty good actually.
Hell yeah!
this is why I will never use a survival bow
why use survival bow? speed?
Memes
@@sethhager4097 i see, thank you
Relevant
36 papercuts
Survival bow is useable because it has the same scaling as longbow, but shoots much more rapidly, gaining the most from +flat damage of any bow.
Sure… but it has the worst range, worst shot speed, worst dropoff…
Fighting a fighter with full plates using the worse bow in the game isn't a good idea 🤣
They have a limitless heal and they can kill you from across the room, they needed the nerf more than rouge
what is limitless? 3?
Is he playing with Lethamyr or am i losing my mind? I swear that's leth
60 arrows broooo and u didnt kill this fighter lmao
ehhh i reecongize leth! thats awesome
the ranger v gray fighter needs to be changed
Pickaxe beard
IRONHAMAAAARRR
Ranger my favorite but shit is so buggy, half the time arrows don't register, quick shot doesn't actually shoot and takes my cd. Arrows stop flying mid air... it's crazy.
2:59 80 arrows in his body later… nerf ranger
@@Odyssey636 it’s just funny cuz he literally could not kill the fighter
@@LilStinkyRatto be fair, he was using the weakest bow, aiming for feet. Its not strange that the fighter survived
@@LilStinkyRat18 dmg * .5 from leg hits = 9 * (1-.11(power)) = 8.01 * (1-.3(lowballing AR)) = 5.6 on a good day. *36 = ~202dmg. With second wind and meds, its not strange that the fighter survived. If you struggle with taking down tanky classes, a reduction in TTK through better impact zones or armor piercing weapons like crossbows would be far more effective due to meds having less effect. For example a white crossbow with crossbow perks would be 2-3 headshots for kill
that is a 17 damage surv bow for ya lol ticklin nuts
dude was using surv bow on his feet. lul wut, yeah nerf ranger
I always knew survival bow sucked but damn. Nerf longbow buff small bows
ironhammer?? you mean ironmace? i am confusion
Jay Griefinhuh
RELOAD DA OPP
the haters say this game is in a great state and i couldn't agree with them more, get better nerds
Using a survival bow that hits for 4dps them wondering why you can't kill a fighter is hilarious. Long bow would have 3 tapped him
What do you want? Arrow vs plate should do 0 dmg
Its only appropriate
36 arrows bro^^
crying at a counter not surprised
u goat
Try no spell warlock with crystal sword
ah yes the game is Balanced xD
Im confused. Are we complaining that it takes too long to kill fully plated tanks when you shoot them repeatedly in the legs with the weakest bow in the game?
Or are we complaining that the fully plated tank can't catch you without help no matter what he does, because the game literally will not allow him to?
Sub 30% accuracy anyone.
Yes nerf rangers.. but not mine of course... let me slip through that crack. I deserve it.
10:17 wasn't on him. Skill issue.
First clip intended gameplay i actually liked it. Cant 1v1 fighter as ranger with leg shots. Really good fight tho!
how about instead of constant nerfs we just start buffing every class except ranger
thats how it was before playtest 3 fighter was flying throught the map with a spear barb was insane rogue was one shotting ranger was broken as always and wizard was invis behind u missile arcane that was insane
@@efsfsesegsgesg8775 in pt3 wizard was legit rage inducing, geared wizard was 1taping with zap, could do as high as 160 dmg XD. legit haste invis, 0.5s cast time zap, dead
@@leonidrex3499 i mean the real deal was naked wizard being able to 1v3 full gear lmao