The two-car consists at 16:54 are ex-CTA 6000 "L" cars that SEPTA acquired in the late 1980s when the Bullets and Strafford cars were starting to wear out. New equipment was on order but delivery was delayed. The line was actually shut down for a while while SEPTA cobbled together a stopgap fix by retrofitting the CTAs and a few obsolete Market-Frankford cars to run on the NHSL. They gradually replaced the Bullets and served until the current N-5 fleet was delivered during the mid-1990s.
@Kevin Howard SEPTA's lowered NHSL speed limits incrementally over the years. They claim it's out of caution, but I suspect some of it is that they're not maintaining the tracks as well as years ago. Plus the stretch between Hughes Park and King Manor (or whatever SEPTA's named it this week) has experienced multiple sinkholes recently. Drivers used to let the throttle almost wide open (~60 mph / 100 km/h) but one told me there's now a long-term slow order.
The body framework on the Bullets was largely wood with aluminum skin. They certainly did not meet any crash safety standard. Rebuilding them to any sort of modern standards would have been prohibitive.
Leonard Bros. Department store had it's own subway from a big parking lot on the north-side of downtown Ft Worth TX to it's store downtown and they used Brill cars on it. It's Gone now as is Leonard Bros dept. store.
@@Rubycon99 Correct. The PCCs ended up being massively rebuilt to look like shoeboxes on wheels, and eventually were scrapped. Also FWIW, Brill (stupidly, in retrospect) refused to join the PCC consortium and instead relied on its "Brilliner" models. They only managed to sell one set to the Red Arrow, another set to Atlantic City (??), and three to the PTC. You have to wonder what might have become of Brill had they entered the PCC market.
@@Poisson4147 I think Shaker Heights might have bought some too? Going off memory. But yeah, I always found Brilliners interesting. Not a lot of examples of American streetcars from that era that aren't PCCs (hey, that was basically the point and it's a great design). Brilliners definitely aren't as attractive. The Brill Bullets are pretty cool though. And of course, you have the bootleg PCCs San Francisco had to use for a few years since city charter prevented them from paying patent royalties ("Magic Carpets") :P
@@Rubycon99 Thanks! I'd forgotten about the Magic Carpets :) What I was able to find indicates only one of the Leonard's cars is still extant. According to Wikipedia it's on display display in the lobby of Texas Capital Bank, Fort Worth. However the same article says a second car was saved but is mothballed, so I'm not sure which is true.
Unfortunately that's not very likely. Over its existence SEPTA has shown essentially no interest in operating heritage vehicles. The closest they have is Route 15 which uses rebuilt PCCs. In all fairness, they really don't have the equipment or the budget to maintain historic cars when, even with a recent increase, the authority's still underfunded compared to its peers. My 2¢ is that it's better for them to be cared for by museums that are set up to deal with century-old cars.
Sorry for the off subject comment but I don’t have a more private way to contact you. I’ve noticed on all of your recent videos uploaded within the last month or so there seems to be a lot of artifacting randomly threw out the video’s. I thought it was just a RUclips issue however it only seems to be occurring on your videos. So that’s leading me to believe it’s a production issue on your end while rendering the content. I’ve seen similar issues before and I bring it up because if the computer you use to render your videos has a dedicated graphics card I have a sneaking suspicion that is the cause of this issue. Prior content of yours was flawless. So perhaps you got a bad driver for your GPU or more commonly what I’ve seen is the GPU itself is on it’s last legs and begins to cause artifacting and corruption while outputting rendered video. It’s been the root cause of very similar issues on other systems I’ve seen so I’m beginning to suspect that’s at least a potential cause for this issue. Color and sound quality are fine. In any case I wanted to bring it to your attention and sorry for posting this in the comments section but again I don’t have a more private way to message you. Hope this helps.
You seem to be knowledgeable. If it's my computer and not RUclips, why are the videos artifact free when played directly from the rendered file on any device?
If the rendered video plays fine on your end threw your own devices then it sounds like it could be a RUclips issue potentially caused by RUclips encoding the video at a bit-rate to low for the amount of movement in your videos. Which given the fact the content you film is big - moving - trains then that’s probably the smoking gun. If you render your videos in a H.264 or H.265 MP4 format then perhaps try rendering at a ProRes, DNxHD, or simply a uncompressed HD file since lower bit-rate files going threw heavy compress aren’t doing you any favors. Do note though that higher bit-rate renders will naturally be bigger, take longer to render as well as upload, and take up more file space on your computer. But it will give RUclips more digital material to work with and (in theory) stop the artifacting. As someone who spends half his life up to his neck in computers trust me when I say that if something hasn’t changed on your end, rest assure it has on everyone else’s. RUclips has been changing some things on there end lately with content creators all complaining of different issues. I suspect this video issue is a consequence of that.
The two-car consists at 16:54 are ex-CTA 6000 "L" cars that SEPTA acquired in the late 1980s when the Bullets and Strafford cars were starting to wear out. New equipment was on order but delivery was delayed. The line was actually shut down for a while while SEPTA cobbled together a stopgap fix by retrofitting the CTAs and a few obsolete Market-Frankford cars to run on the NHSL. They gradually replaced the Bullets and served until the current N-5 fleet was delivered during the mid-1990s.
i love how those cars can just fly over the viaduct like its nothing, but today the N5 cars arent allowed to go over 5mph on it.
@Kevin Howard SEPTA's lowered NHSL speed limits incrementally over the years. They claim it's out of caution, but I suspect some of it is that they're not maintaining the tracks as well as years ago. Plus the stretch between Hughes Park and King Manor (or whatever SEPTA's named it this week) has experienced multiple sinkholes recently. Drivers used to let the throttle almost wide open (~60 mph / 100 km/h) but one told me there's now a long-term slow order.
I wish the brill bullets were rebuilt instead of replaced
The body framework on the Bullets was largely wood with aluminum skin. They certainly did not meet any crash safety standard. Rebuilding them to any sort of modern standards would have been prohibitive.
@@fmnut ☹️👍
Leonard Bros. Department store had it's own subway from a big parking lot on the north-side of downtown Ft Worth TX to it's store downtown and they used Brill cars on it. It's Gone now as is Leonard Bros dept. store.
Those were PCC's actually
@@Rubycon99 Correct. The PCCs ended up being massively rebuilt to look like shoeboxes on wheels, and eventually were scrapped.
Also FWIW, Brill (stupidly, in retrospect) refused to join the PCC consortium and instead relied on its "Brilliner" models. They only managed to sell one set to the Red Arrow, another set to Atlantic City (??), and three to the PTC. You have to wonder what might have become of Brill had they entered the PCC market.
@@Poisson4147 I think Shaker Heights might have bought some too? Going off memory. But yeah, I always found Brilliners interesting. Not a lot of examples of American streetcars from that era that aren't PCCs (hey, that was basically the point and it's a great design). Brilliners definitely aren't as attractive. The Brill Bullets are pretty cool though. And of course, you have the bootleg PCCs San Francisco had to use for a few years since city charter prevented them from paying patent royalties ("Magic Carpets") :P
@@Rubycon99 Thanks! I'd forgotten about the Magic Carpets :)
What I was able to find indicates only one of the Leonard's cars is still extant. According to Wikipedia it's on display display in the lobby of Texas Capital Bank, Fort Worth. However the same article says a second car was saved but is mothballed, so I'm not sure which is true.
@@Poisson4147 I think there was even talk of adding one of the Tandy cars to the M-Line fleet in Dallas, but I don't know what happened with that.
VERY nice. As usual, very tasty camera work & editing.
Nice video, thumbs up!
When was this from? Looks like it’s been a long while
1988-1990
@@fmnut that is incredible and it has been a long while
Ive heard of this, I hope septa reaquires one as a heritage car
Unfortunately that's not very likely. Over its existence SEPTA has shown essentially no interest in operating heritage vehicles. The closest they have is Route 15 which uses rebuilt PCCs. In all fairness, they really don't have the equipment or the budget to maintain historic cars when, even with a recent increase, the authority's still underfunded compared to its peers. My 2¢ is that it's better for them to be cared for by museums that are set up to deal with century-old cars.
Sorry for the off subject comment but I don’t have a more private way to contact you. I’ve noticed on all of your recent videos uploaded within the last month or so there seems to be a lot of artifacting randomly threw out the video’s. I thought it was just a RUclips issue however it only seems to be occurring on your videos. So that’s leading me to believe it’s a production issue on your end while rendering the content. I’ve seen similar issues before and I bring it up because if the computer you use to render your videos has a dedicated graphics card I have a sneaking suspicion that is the cause of this issue. Prior content of yours was flawless. So perhaps you got a bad driver for your GPU or more commonly what I’ve seen is the GPU itself is on it’s last legs and begins to cause artifacting and corruption while outputting rendered video. It’s been the root cause of very similar issues on other systems I’ve seen so I’m beginning to suspect that’s at least a potential cause for this issue. Color and sound quality are fine. In any case I wanted to bring it to your attention and sorry for posting this in the comments section but again I don’t have a more private way to message you. Hope this helps.
You seem to be knowledgeable. If it's my computer and not RUclips, why are the videos artifact free when played directly from the rendered file on any device?
If the rendered video plays fine on your end threw your own devices then it sounds like it could be a RUclips issue potentially caused by RUclips encoding the video at a bit-rate to low for the amount of movement in your videos. Which given the fact the content you film is big - moving - trains then that’s probably the smoking gun. If you render your videos in a H.264 or H.265 MP4 format then perhaps try rendering at a ProRes, DNxHD, or simply a uncompressed HD file since lower bit-rate files going threw heavy compress aren’t doing you any favors. Do note though that higher bit-rate renders will naturally be bigger, take longer to render as well as upload, and take up more file space on your computer. But it will give RUclips more digital material to work with and (in theory) stop the artifacting. As someone who spends half his life up to his neck in computers trust me when I say that if something hasn’t changed on your end, rest assure it has on everyone else’s. RUclips has been changing some things on there end lately with content creators all complaining of different issues. I suspect this video issue is a consequence of that.