Well done to Willie and the SFA for having these open and honest conversions about these decisions. Yes it is annoying when your team is effected. But hopefully come time these guys will be getting less decisions wrong and we will have top quality refereeing.
They cant show every offence. Willie is a great communicator. Really like this show and adds a lot to transparancy and dare I say trust. Interesting how "penalty to Rangers" is not a thing this season.
Disappointing misinformation about violent conduct. IFAB definition is "Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made. In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible." Attempting to strike Schmeichel clearly falls within the definition of the first paragraph. The second paragraph is an annoyingly vague and confusing addition, which maybe explains the outcome, but the fact remains his actions were within the definition of violent conduct. Further, for the elbow to Idah: "A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play." It does not say "unless he didn't mean it." An elbow to the face is clearly dangerous, and from the footage the left arm has a fully flexed elbow flying back at speed into an area where an opponent's head is likely to be, the right arm (in contrast) is floating fairly harmlessly. The consensus that this is not serious foul play is putting the safety of players at risk.
Absolutely mad to say a definite obvious pull like in the Hibs - Dundee Utd shouldn't have been given. This is exactly the kind of thing VAR is there to sort out!!
There seems to be long delays when booking players at times. I suspect VAR is telling the ref retrospectively, reviewing it to see if it warrants a booking then telling the ref. Can you ask Willie if VAR is re-refereeing the game?
Willie Gollum's rational is based on his perspective of a Celtic-mind, which is clear from the Maeda handball goal which should have resulted in a booking. Sadly, the SFA has created this scandal of epic proportions itself and can only be remedied by using a Four Phase Polygraph Examination by an Expert, which cannot be Beaton (pardon the pun)
Well done Willie, very good analysis. Never, ever thought I'd say that :) seriously though excellent explanation, even though I'm a Hibs fan and thought it should have been a penalty to us :)
Also on the Joe Newell red card in the game at Tannadice, since he was sent off anyway, why can't the SFA just upgrade it to a straight red and add the appropriate games on top of the suspension. It doesn't affect the game itself at the time?
So Gordon's was a red on idah,but Hatee on Donnelly wasn't, exact same tackle. Barron got hit the same way as Gordon's same tackle earlier in the season where it should Ave been but wasn't given.Its unbelievable how IRA GOLLUM gets this job the monkey mob get every decision going!!!! There should Ave been 4 penalties against Septic and 2 sending offs,but again nothing, but what do you expect when liewell is on the board twice over at hampden.🤬🤬🤬🤬
Dundee v St Johnstone when they draw the defenders line you can clearly see St J attacker lower leg ahead of the defender. Burgandy sock ahead of white sock
I love the transparency of the analysis in all these RUclips videos. I’m not a United or Hibs fan but I really disagree with the Newell yellow, nevermind a red. Both players made a challenge which resulted in a 50/50. The contact/impact is a result of both player going in hard on the ball and Newells boot bouncing off the ball. I get the subjectiveness of it all but are we now in a place where a 50/50 on the ball is discouraged because of the resultant ambiguity of where the legs end up?
Issue with VAR summed up with the Maeda/O’Donnell incident. That is an extremely subjective decision that depends on what the VAR on the day thinks. I can’t see how you can get consistency with that.
Why does it astound you? It’s not like they are easy to understand! Listen to Collum going through the criteria of each incident… how can you expect normal fans to be fluent in ‘Referee’ when these guys are paid and highly trained to do it. 🤯 Most fans know basic rules and hear a high level on rule changes as they are broadcast by pundits. The rules of the game now are way more in-depth, and arguably detrimental (!) to the game, than they used to be.
So hibs concede a penalty for something that is not for var. well I’m left scratching my head even more after that explanation from Willie. Going forward we will leave these incidents. Really??
Anyone else remember when shirt pulling was a foul, clear and simple? Referees now arguing that because there's so much cheating in today's football, refs should only pick and choose between which fouls to punish. Football has totally lost the plot, literally the only sport where cheating is not only allowed but encouraged: 'professional foul', 'tactical foul', 'game management', 'taking one for the team', 'dark arts' ... it's CHEATING just call it correctly. Referees take all the flak whereas in every match they're faced with 22 cheats to manage, with loads more cheats on the bench to come on ... and the managers, coaches and pundits not only enourage cheating but praise it. Football is rotting away from inside, just look where the 2034 World Cup is going to be held! Anyway, soon be Xmas.
Love how VAR decisions constantly benefit Pacific Shelf. Why do the referees consistently cheat people with giving them bad decisions? Why is a Pacific Shelf supporting referee leading VAR?
What pisses me off as a football fan aye var has got better but they dont even look at players diving and wasteing time thease things need looked at all players who do this need a straight red card that will stamp this crap out and it was steven gerrad who told his players to dive now everyone is doing it its embarrassing that players have to cheat
@@christophermilroy5198 There's a reason why such a ridiculous rule isn't in place, you can't award the opposition team a corner for a goalkeeper time wasting, would we then have penalties for time wasting at throw ins? also to the OP VAR can't do anything about time wasting and it already looks at players diving when it's checking for a foul.
In regards to the United penalty at Hibs - surely a shirt pull is a conscious effort to impede the player, it was an obvious shirt pull so a foul? Maybe punishing these would stop shirt pulls from happening at all? It is also different from the Hibs claim in the same match where both players are at it. At the United penalty it is only the Hibs player holding.
The weirdest thing for me is that everyone has just ignored the prolonged shirt pull on the Hibs 26 at the back post - exactly where the ball landed. You can see it every time they freeze-frame the penalty incident! 😂
It's not enough on it though. Not even a claim from ref, fans or players. The one around 1 min after for hibs is a shirt pull but no pen as its not enough
I like this open discussion with Wullie . But if the tackle on Donnelly by the Celtic player had been the other way round Donnelly would have been off red card without a doubt . And there sits the injustices against teams outside of the Glasgow two .
🤣🤣🤣🤣 no he wouldn't have you absolute melt honestly you lot always love being the victim's we could literally show you a dozen incidents over the past few seasons of Celtic players being brutally tackled with 0 resulting in red cards so pipe down you absolute roaster
@@jedibhoySHHH they don't like facts like that they love being the victim's it helps them deal with the fact Celtic will forever be the biggest deal on Scotland while no one knows to who they are outside our country 🤣🤣🤣🤣
5 minute review for motherwell's goal against ross county, killing all momentum and ruining what would have been an exciting finish. Well done VAR, taking the joy out of football.
So as your upper half is being pulled back you use more strength comparable to your legs in that moment. When the pulling stops suddenly your upper body pulls forward faster than your legs.
Robertson couldn't downplay Maeda's tackle quickly enough. Supposedly one of our top officials yet even after various replays he doesn't think it's a red? Compare and contrast with the same ref going to the monitor when Dujon Sterling stood on a player's toe and upheld the red.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 diazens isn't a red while sterlings is glad I could clear that up for you, mind your rancid club went over 70 games without conceding a domestic penalty and over 2 years without a red card that's the problem we have way to many rangers supporting refs in our league hopefully that'll be sorted soon
@@Thefamousrfc70yip two tier referring which always seems to go in favour of rangers because 90% of them are season tickets holders at the murder dome in govan
Anything happening about the terrorist Michael stones picture being broadcast from the hearts v Celtic game on Saturday night the SFA or the SPFL haven't commented yet... 🤔
Sorry this is horrendously one sided, just like the last time it omits the more contentious decisions. I've not watched all the games but the Duk handball should've been included here. 2nd time this has been very selective.
So hatee wasnt,but lundstrum was against goofy last season, 2 tackles exactly the same.But when it goes to VAR REVIEW SHOW its a clear red,we all know whos pulling the strings during the 90 mins.This good have changed the result.Been saying this all season so far.Septic seem to get away with this so far this season, where rangers should have had 5 clear penalties and not had one so far,with the Refs having a laugh with several decisions i most games this season, just look at the drop ball given to Dundee utd on Saturday when we had control of the ball.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Nothing on the last minute penalty claim for Celtic v Aberdeen or the blowing of the full time whistle after no penalty given but ball knocked out for a corner
@@Ryandunbar1996 thanks mate, what position do you hold at the SFA so I can email them and let them know one of their staff is taking his time to reply to comments on the YT channel.
@Jie67 basically the rule is that if the var was mid decision at the end of the game... which it was the ref cannot blow for full time. If the var decided a penalty should have been awarded then Celtic would have then been allowed to take that penalty
Are u serious, Collum never had a clue when he was a ref. How he can talk about consistency is beyond belief!!VAR is the worst thing ever to be introduced ☹️☹️
Did Scottish Football begin in the last 5 years for you or was it fine when the refereeing pool was dominated by supporters of Rangers, which there currently are still plenty of in that pool.
Rangers player got away with kicking a guy in the face in the same manner that had Celtic's Yang sent-off last year but yes most refs are against Rangers
😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love how dafties like you just point blank lie and pass it off as facts p.s 90% of refs are rangers fans we literally have evidence of them being around rangers bars, clubs and hanging about with rangers fans so don't talk rubbish
Well done to Willie and the SFA for having these open and honest conversions about these decisions. Yes it is annoying when your team is effected. But hopefully come time these guys will be getting less decisions wrong and we will have top quality refereeing.
I really like this VAR review show it’s very open and honest
They cant show every offence. Willie is a great communicator. Really like this show and adds a lot to transparancy and dare I say trust. Interesting how "penalty to Rangers" is not a thing this season.
Disappointing misinformation about violent conduct. IFAB definition is "Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.
In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible."
Attempting to strike Schmeichel clearly falls within the definition of the first paragraph. The second paragraph is an annoyingly vague and confusing addition, which maybe explains the outcome, but the fact remains his actions were within the definition of violent conduct.
Further, for the elbow to Idah: "A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play." It does not say "unless he didn't mean it." An elbow to the face is clearly dangerous, and from the footage the left arm has a fully flexed elbow flying back at speed into an area where an opponent's head is likely to be, the right arm (in contrast) is floating fairly harmlessly. The consensus that this is not serious foul play is putting the safety of players at risk.
Retrospective red and yellow cards should be applied where appropriate!!
Absolutely mad to say a definite obvious pull like in the Hibs - Dundee Utd shouldn't have been given. This is exactly the kind of thing VAR is there to sort out!!
There seems to be long delays when booking players at times. I suspect VAR is telling the ref retrospectively, reviewing it to see if it warrants a booking then telling the ref. Can you ask Willie if VAR is re-refereeing the game?
Willie Gollum's rational is based on his perspective of a Celtic-mind, which is clear from the Maeda handball goal which should have resulted in a booking.
Sadly, the SFA has created this scandal of epic proportions itself and can only be remedied by using a Four Phase Polygraph Examination by an Expert, which cannot be Beaton (pardon the pun)
Please explain why no review and explanation of Dukes ‘handball’ clearance in the last minute against Celtic?
Probably because there was no evidence that clearly showed it was a handball therefore nothing for VAR to use to overrule the onfield decision
Because it wasn't a hand ball
It wasn’t a handball ? Always cheated never defeated
@@TheMeridian73Not been defeated domestically yet bro 😂
@@TheMeridian73finished 2-2 ya cabbage 😂
Where is the review of the other major decisions in the Celtic v Aberdeen i.e the save from Duk at the end of the match?
Well done Willie, very good analysis. Never, ever thought I'd say that :) seriously though excellent explanation, even though I'm a Hibs fan and thought it should have been a penalty to us :)
The irony of them saying it's NOT a Celtic pen v Motherwell with Specsavers on their backs.
Also on the Joe Newell red card in the game at Tannadice, since he was sent off anyway, why can't the SFA just upgrade it to a straight red and add the appropriate games on top of the suspension. It doesn't affect the game itself at the time?
I don't think the SFA can over rule in game decisions unless it's really serious.
@@Jie67yes they can it happens all the time
@@ardler_arab6114 feel free to name a few examples for this month, take your time mate cause you'll need a lot of it.
Think that the December VAR Review Show will be cancelled, for obvious reasons because they may have 'lost' the digital audio & visual recording.
This is really good. Well done, Willie. 👏
Think it’s a penalty? Nahhh! Shocking
No footage shown for the two elbow attacks on Schmeichel or Idah , what's new.
But they were spoken about. So much to cram in mind.
So it’s all a conspiracy?
Celtic are corrupt aswell. Wdym what's new
Coming together an tangle of legs is still a penalty on daizen it was a clear penalty and sending off
I say every month. love these. keep it up
Going to be interesting the var call on the cup final joke reffing from all
I don't say I agree with everything said but , very interesting.
So Yang’s was a red card vs hearts but Barron’s wasn’t? Okay
barron got the ball
So Gordon's was a red on idah,but Hatee on Donnelly wasn't, exact same tackle. Barron got hit the same way as Gordon's same tackle earlier in the season where it should Ave been but wasn't given.Its unbelievable how IRA GOLLUM gets this job the monkey mob get every decision going!!!!
There should Ave been 4 penalties against Septic and 2 sending offs,but again nothing, but what do you expect when liewell is on the board twice over at hampden.🤬🤬🤬🤬
The Hibs player’s boot has ran up over the ball not intentional
Dundee v St Johnstone when they draw the defenders line you can clearly see St J attacker lower leg ahead of the defender. Burgandy sock ahead of white sock
I love the transparency of the analysis in all these RUclips videos.
I’m not a United or Hibs fan but I really disagree with the Newell yellow, nevermind a red. Both players made a challenge which resulted in a 50/50. The contact/impact is a result of both player going in hard on the ball and Newells boot bouncing off the ball.
I get the subjectiveness of it all but are we now in a place where a 50/50 on the ball is discouraged because of the resultant ambiguity of where the legs end up?
Issue with VAR summed up with the Maeda/O’Donnell incident. That is an extremely subjective decision that depends on what the VAR on the day thinks. I can’t see how you can get consistency with that.
Its not subjective at all though. The Motherwell player initates contact on Maeda, when he can't win the ball, and causes him to fall.
Always astounded by how many “fans” don’t understand the rules
Why does it astound you? It’s not like they are easy to understand! Listen to Collum going through the criteria of each incident… how can you expect normal fans to be fluent in ‘Referee’ when these guys are paid and highly trained to do it. 🤯
Most fans know basic rules and hear a high level on rule changes as they are broadcast by pundits.
The rules of the game now are way more in-depth, and arguably detrimental (!) to the game, than they used to be.
Re: Barron. No contact yet the St. Mirror player gies down holding his head. He should have been carded for that.
Good analysis 👍
Is upgrading yellow cards to a red card after the game no longer something that happens?
Not if ref and var have seen it
So hibs concede a penalty for something that is not for var. well I’m left scratching my head even more after that explanation from Willie. Going forward we will leave these incidents. Really??
From now on he said this is something they won't get involved in
It would be in our best interests to leave this incident alone. That is the exact words he said.
Anyone else remember when shirt pulling was a foul, clear and simple? Referees now arguing that because there's so much cheating in today's football, refs should only pick and choose between which fouls to punish. Football has totally lost the plot, literally the only sport where cheating is not only allowed but encouraged: 'professional foul', 'tactical foul', 'game management', 'taking one for the team', 'dark arts' ... it's CHEATING just call it correctly.
Referees take all the flak whereas in every match they're faced with 22 cheats to manage, with loads more cheats on the bench to come on ... and the managers, coaches and pundits not only enourage cheating but praise it. Football is rotting away from inside, just look where the 2034 World Cup is going to be held!
Anyway, soon be Xmas.
Because that impacts Hibs twice. Player sent off- no appeal, 2 points dropped also
Love how VAR decisions constantly benefit Pacific Shelf. Why do the referees consistently cheat people with giving them bad decisions? Why is a Pacific Shelf supporting referee leading VAR?
What pisses me off as a football fan aye var has got better but they dont even look at players diving and wasteing time thease things need looked at all players who do this need a straight red card that will stamp this crap out and it was steven gerrad who told his players to dive now everyone is doing it its embarrassing that players have to cheat
I heard someone suggest that when goalies time waste on a goal kick, a corner kick should be given to the other team. That will quickly sort that out.
@@christophermilroy5198 There's a reason why such a ridiculous rule isn't in place, you can't award the opposition team a corner for a goalkeeper time wasting, would we then have penalties for time wasting at throw ins? also to the OP VAR can't do anything about time wasting and it already looks at players diving when it's checking for a foul.
@@Jie67Penalties for throw ins? That’s a bit of leap. Just give the throw in to the other team.
@@christophermilroy5198 It's the exact same logic as awarding a team a corner for a GK time wasting
Willie is a NUMPTY!
I'd trust a blind man more than that guy!
In regards to the United penalty at Hibs - surely a shirt pull is a conscious effort to impede the player, it was an obvious shirt pull so a foul? Maybe punishing these would stop shirt pulls from happening at all?
It is also different from the Hibs claim in the same match where both players are at it. At the United penalty it is only the Hibs player holding.
You're allowed to make conscious efforts to impede players. It's called defending.
@@rosspaget5302yet shirt pulling isn't allowed by the laws of the game
The weirdest thing for me is that everyone has just ignored the prolonged shirt pull on the Hibs 26 at the back post - exactly where the ball landed. You can see it every time they freeze-frame the penalty incident! 😂
It's not enough on it though. Not even a claim from ref, fans or players. The one around 1 min after for hibs is a shirt pull but no pen as its not enough
These two are going to have a busy December review with the amount of games and talking points, videos gonna be about 3 hours long
I like this open discussion with Wullie . But if the tackle on Donnelly by the Celtic player had been the other way round Donnelly would have been off red card without a doubt . And there sits the injustices against teams outside of the Glasgow two .
Like when he leaves one on Schmeichel 2 mins later?
🤣🤣🤣🤣 no he wouldn't have you absolute melt honestly you lot always love being the victim's we could literally show you a dozen incidents over the past few seasons of Celtic players being brutally tackled with 0 resulting in red cards so pipe down you absolute roaster
@@jedibhoySHHH they don't like facts like that they love being the victim's it helps them deal with the fact Celtic will forever be the biggest deal on Scotland while no one knows to who they are outside our country 🤣🤣🤣🤣
5 minute review for motherwell's goal against ross county, killing all momentum and ruining what would have been an exciting finish. Well done VAR, taking the joy out of football.
Unsporting behaviour must be considered in the case of shirt pulling. Surely if your pulled you shouldn't fall forward?
It’s not when you’re being pulled you fall forward….its when you’re let go.
So as your upper half is being pulled back you use more strength comparable to your legs in that moment. When the pulling stops suddenly your upper body pulls forward faster than your legs.
Robertson couldn't downplay Maeda's tackle quickly enough. Supposedly one of our top officials yet even after various replays he doesn't think it's a red?
Compare and contrast with the same ref going to the monitor when Dujon Sterling stood on a player's toe and upheld the red.
Two-tier refereeing in this country.
because he supports celtic
🤣🤣🤣🤣 diazens isn't a red while sterlings is glad I could clear that up for you, mind your rancid club went over 70 games without conceding a domestic penalty and over 2 years without a red card that's the problem we have way to many rangers supporting refs in our league hopefully that'll be sorted soon
@@Thefamousrfc70yip two tier referring which always seems to go in favour of rangers because 90% of them are season tickets holders at the murder dome in govan
@@BillyGold007while 90% of them support rangers as proven by you lot getting away with everything
Anything happening about the terrorist Michael stones picture being broadcast from the hearts v Celtic game on Saturday night the SFA or the SPFL haven't commented yet... 🤔
No comment on this disgraceful incident...
Celtic supporting referee discusses other Celtic supporting referee's "MISTAKES"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Christ who would want that job these days . They’ll be going on strike shortly
Greg Aitken absolutely hopeless... made 5+ mistakes this season already. How does he keep getting games?!?!?
Sorry this is horrendously one sided, just like the last time it omits the more contentious decisions. I've not watched all the games but the Duk handball should've been included here. 2nd time this has been very selective.
the Motherwell-Celtic is never a penalty
Hahahahahaha Maeda's a penalty against Motherwell 🙈🙈 Shut up Gollum
So hatee wasnt,but lundstrum was against goofy last season, 2 tackles exactly the same.But when it goes to VAR REVIEW SHOW its a clear red,we all know whos pulling the strings during the 90 mins.This good have changed the result.Been saying this all season so far.Septic seem to get away with this so far this season, where rangers should have had 5 clear penalties and not had one so far,with the Refs having a laugh with several decisions i most games this season, just look at the drop ball given to Dundee utd on Saturday when we had control of the ball.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I like this. However, I'd like the editing to be tighter. I'd rather see shorter analysis, but of a greater number of incidents. Thanks guys.
Mood lighting..........
Sort Nick Walsh out btw
Nothing on the last minute penalty claim for Celtic v Aberdeen or the blowing of the full time whistle after no penalty given but ball knocked out for a corner
The ref followed the rules that game for those incidents
@@Ryandunbar1996 thanks mate, what position do you hold at the SFA so I can email them and let them know one of their staff is taking his time to reply to comments on the YT channel.
@Jie67 none...I just read IFAB
@@Ryandunbar1996 Which IFAB rules did those incidents fall under?
@Jie67 basically the rule is that if the var was mid decision at the end of the game... which it was the ref cannot blow for full time. If the var decided a penalty should have been awarded then Celtic would have then been allowed to take that penalty
Willie "honest mistake " collum
Bin Var now, the fans don’t want it
Anybody wasting money on this garbage are off there heads game was bad enough with bad officials its even worse with this joke var.
Are u serious, Collum never had a clue when he was a ref. How he can talk about consistency is beyond belief!!VAR is the worst thing ever to be introduced ☹️☹️
Crazy that most scottish refs are celtic fans. No other country would allow their refereeing pool to become dominated by supporters of one team.
Did Scottish Football begin in the last 5 years for you or was it fine when the refereeing pool was dominated by supporters of Rangers, which there currently are still plenty of in that pool.
Funny how most of the refs are Masons 😂😂😂 tell your a rangers fan 😂😂
Rangers player got away with kicking a guy in the face in the same manner that had Celtic's Yang sent-off last year but yes most refs are against Rangers
😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love how dafties like you just point blank lie and pass it off as facts p.s 90% of refs are rangers fans we literally have evidence of them being around rangers bars, clubs and hanging about with rangers fans so don't talk rubbish
Rangers too
I was sitting in my living room and seen it was a penalty for Maeda,ffs