You can experiment with Clorinde gear like Echoes artifact set, maybe even a physical dmg bonus cup! Also I made a video with clorinde's dendro aggravate team here: ruclips.net/video/svEKRjTfnl4/видео.html
@@blackister4768 nahida wouldn't do much in this team. you're better off swapping him for bennet, yun jin, chevy or just another cryo unit for the crit rate resonance buff
@@ChiyoTachi He does say in the vid that chi chi is way better then mika and i don't see how mika can make up for so much healing chichi provides during the combo to even be mentioned at all. just a sloppy video. play your combo as is, it's less then one pull per floor anyways so who cares if you complete it or not.
@@ChiyoTachi Skyward blade gives 10% attack speed buff and Mika with crowned elemental skill also gives another 22% attack speed buff, there could be a good possibility of that but I don't find Mika's healing to be all that effective, but I've hardly used him. Will have to look into that now.
there's also an interesting mechanic with Layla's shield shooting stars which Clorinde can potentially abuse. Layla's shooting stars gain 2 stack when a character use elemental skill, and guess who has zero cooldown on their elemental skill?
She also buffs NA damage with her C4. Couple that with Mika's 25% ATK SPD and healing and I think you could further optimise this team. He even gives up to 40% Phys DMG bonus for the Skyward procs, and since these weapon procs can crit, Clorinde also benefits from his C6's buffed crit damage and Superconduct.
@@bobthehandyman3650 It is 0.3s, iirc. I haven't actually tested it yet. The buff would be best utilised on her improved E, so increasing the time between E closer to the threshold is beneficial for overall DPS, at least in theory.
Throw in Nahida in there instead of Zhongli, now you can add hyperbloom and aggravate into the mix. If Nahida is c2, now there is a defence shred mechanic added in for extra flavor.
I don’t have much clams farmed but I’ll definitely try this out leyla with tenacity/nobless and freedom sworn could be an alright interruption resist, shield won’t be as strong as zhongli obv and idk how much it competes with resist shred but she’s got shorter animations, can activate cryo resonance, and her c4 will give the tiniest na boost
This is great, and despite the underinvestment the damage floor is actually really good. A couple preliminary thoughts: - BoL stacking is extremely unreliable here. Sometimes it skyrockets up to 100% within 2 attacks, and other times 2 attacks isn't enough. So the damage output is pretty inconsistent, and I don't know enough about Qiqi skill to understand why that is. Filling the screen with white numbers makes a funny image though. - Physical lacks a true support that really enables it to scale. There is no Kazuha for physical. I think this team actually stands a chance to be properly competitive when such a teambuilding option exists. - Clorinde's BoL stacking mechanic is very underexplored, as it now means that she additionally and uniquely scales based on incoming healing rate. I love when new characters offer new ways to provide scaling tools (think Furina completely transforming healer value, or Acheron in HSR getting really strong with high debuff application rate).
Mika was supposed to be the Physical attack buffer, but he is far from good enough to be useful. At C6, it's a bit better, but still too low of a bonus compared to other buffer.
ngl I gotta say he's good enough now thanks to furina, most of our element specific buffer aren't healers so him healing well let's the team run furina without sacrificing anything@@MikojinToyunda
a CN run used C6 Furina, idk for Pigeon (not sure he showed), what cons is your Furina? Is this C0 Furina perf? if that's the case, it's pretty impressive for a team w/o Bennett, w/o Kazuha
Not sure skyward is that bad though, i use it on xinqiu and it fits him perfectly with high attk, er and some crit especially with raiden or dbl hydro teams. Love ur creative video man but does attk spead help clorinde?
Yes attack speed in any comp variation is good for her. It give her the trust enhancement faster. But we just dont have a specific attk speed buffer for clorind rn
@@teeman7137 was wondering if mika in this team with high investment would be an upgrade since he buffs attk speed too and his healing is decent. Jean c2 should be an option for vv shred and attk spead
Ngl I hate the anxiety Fischl & Nahida induce by being so squishy so I'll try it out. Also should I have a physical goblet in this team? Or a whole pale flame set?
With Skyward Blade she kinda become reverse Razor. Razor deals Physical DMG and on burst gets coordinated instances of Electro DMG. Clorinde with ele skill deals Electro DMG and on burst gets coordinated instances of Physical DMG. We've made full circle and returned to Razor, lmao
@@littleboss2006 dehya has a functioning kit though, theres nothing about her that implies being a poorly tested character - she just isnt that strong because standard, tighnari felt more like the accident in that regard
@@MrYuntu except she is, she a prototype Fontaine character kits. Which is why it's terrible. Her artifact set is not even her bis lmao. Terrible energy gen with costly burst when her dmg mostly come from that. Tf with tighnari accident. That's literally the proof a standard character can be made good
i knew something like this would happen, a lot of people disregard the healing = bond of life mechanic on clorinde cause most if not all (except qiqi) doesn't have sufficient healing for it significantly affect clorinde's kit, turns out we already have a character that heals a crap ton 🤣
Clorinde gets crit rate from ascension and another 20% crit rate from passive, unless your artifact is heavily skewed toward crit damage the cryo resonance is likely to overcap her crit rate if your artifacts have half decent CV.
I guess getting a Qiqi con on the way to get Clorinde was a sign sent by Hoyo, nice I'll build both and try it out, I think I have R2 Skyward blade so it's all coming along. Non-traditional/uncommon synergies like these are the reason I like Genshin
Yes, even some of isn't uncommon/non traditional we always get something like this many before. Kuki, thoma, healer in general, and since fontaine dehya and Candace c6 is somehow useful in their on way
i tried it, my clorinde build still needs some improvement, but this teams slapped like crazy, i was surprised how good it was (and how comfy it is, this team is literally unkillable.)
@@javigamerxiir7107 every team with Qiqi is basically unkillable ... unless you happen to get into a combat sitatuation that massively slows down the teams E Skill Cooldowns, because thats QiQi only deadly weakness, if she cant use her E when neccessaty to keep up the constant healing , all you can do, is normal attack spam with no Cryo Application to generate energy for your burst n hope for your hits to cause heal signs, so that the others can heal themself up from targeting the enemy with the heal sign on it. Plus with C6 Qiqi you have your Emergency Button/Burst for all cases, to revive all dead party members every 15 minutes, so you will always rotate your characters in and out, that in all cases Qiqi will always be your last character that is alive, in order to burst and revive all.
Nice - saw it on Bilibili yesterday and it looks super fun but it seems highly dependent on high refinement skywards and a C2 furina (Chlorinde goes attack cup)
yep as mentioned in the vid i didn't even optimise the team much and it's underinvested. could probably make a crazy time improvement in a week or 2?! 😏
I haven't gotten Sethos yet after 50 pulls, and lost to an early Qiqi. She's C4 now, so even tho I never planned on getting Clorinde, I wouldn't mind getting her if it means being able to use Qiqi, lol. Also where the fck is my Sethos, Hoyo?-
I'm getting tempted too. I have skyward blade and lvl40 c5 qiqi. I was saving for furina cons but i've been watching so many clorinde cool gameplay. Makes me really want to pull coz she thicc too lol
@@bjornnilsson2941i got 2 prides and 1 Aquila + WGS i dont use any weapon of them , never thought i would ever want skyward sword that much but this team seems to be fun
Clam set on Qiqi makes big bubble pops, and the bubble pops are physical damage which the Superconduct res shred helps improve. I'd definitely prefer that over Maiden's Now if only I had a skyward blade...
Physical Res shred does improve clam damage because it's a debuff on the enemy. Things that would buff your character's physical damage won't affect Clam damage.
@@crocworks oh, yeah mb, phys resistance does affect the damage so shred should help boost the damage a little. I was using Qiqi with raiden to proc superconduit and didnt even notice.
I don't think Qiqi is played to her full potential, she should apply talisman (through burst or NA) before Furina burst, so that Furina and Zhongli are rapidly healed by the talisman during their field time, gaining stacks much faster. This is especially important if Furina is c0.
@@daisydaey Qiqi NA application has 30 sec cooldown, so it should be used to make up for the inability of bursting each rotation, and also because of this split, each rotation may be shortened to 15 seconds with one bursting while the other using skill only. Rotation of this party is limited by the Furina skill that has 20 sec cooldown. Two rotation routines with no sac sword on Qiqi: Furina E, Qiqi AAAAA, Furina Q, Zhongli QE, Clorinde Q, Qiqi Q, Clorinde EEAAEAAEAAE... Furina QE, Zhongli QE, Clorinde Q, Qiqi EAAAAA, Clorinde EEAAEAAEAAE... Both have Furina and Zhongli bursting when there is a talisman on the enemy, while Clorinde E also covered. The key is to delay Clorinde skill as much as possible, having Qiqi burst duration crossed into the second rotation to heal up Furina and Zhongli, but this trick would only work against boss. If it goes to the third rotation you will find a reverse routine: Qiqi Q, Furina QE, Zhongli QE, Clorinde QEEAAEAAEAAE... This is much shorter because both Qiqi skill and passive are on cooldown. It also relies on the previous rotation where there is electro leftover to trigger superconduct. It goes full circle and back to the first routine for the forth. There is a 7-second gap between Clorinde skill ending and Furina skill off cooldown, but you can omit that and continue. I've been using Qiqi with Furina since Furina release and have yet to find the best way to play her, but with sub-optimal rotation abyss still get destroyed easily. The optimized moves for this party seems extremely tricky for speedrunners at low constellations. At high investment, they kill the chamber in a single rotation so the cooldown complications of Qiqi doesn't matter. The timing of when Qiqi would use her skill or burst would still matter a lot in multi-waves however.
Gotta love sub optimal teams that use a mechanic that no one even remembers exist. The only times i remember the skyward weapons coordinated attacks are when i unbench my Eula and see Skyward Pride doing almost as much damage as my NAs lmao One question tho is Maidens the best set on Qiqi even when Clam would be doing more damage with superconduct and Zhongli Res shred?
@@guest_zzroman2076no, superconduct buffs the clam bubble. That’s why QiQi is used in tazer team comps, however, physical cup’s don’t affect the bubble dmg.
I think both are kinda hated because Skyward was only useful in 2 characters where it wasn't even the best in slot and Aquila Favonia only usage was the highest base attack for Bennett in case someone didn't have Mistplitter or it was used on another character. This adds a good usage for those "unlucky" to get so many of the Skyward Blades.
@@Larkianвообще то Skyward чаще берется на беннета даже при условии потери в базовой атаке. Все потому, что в последнее время беннет как хиллер куда более важен нежели чем дамагер. И может быть довольно сложно собрать и ульт по откату и хп для хила.
actually aquila is the highest base attack sword in the standard pool, so its really good on bennett. his atk buff is based on base attack. so if you have enough energy from artifacts, skyward blade is actually worse on him than aquila
It's definitely unintended synergy like xiangling x Bennet snapshot or thundering furry. I love this kind of unintended synergy between unit. Feels like we as players can do cool things beyond the dev expectation. GG
@@ueu There is no shot (pun intended) that they didn't know about that. Clorinde's damage is clearly lower because of the amount of damage she can squeeze out of oz.
@@swagbrew I feel like Clorinde's raw damage potential is just because she's electro. Electro are known to have such a low row damage potential and that has been the case for years. There's a reason why they got both Sarah and Cheveruse. Even other elements that don't have damage reactions have really high raw damage potential. Navia can throw such a high raw damage without any support or reactions. Sadly, for some reason Electro is just that bad. The only reason why c0 raiden was good is because of her support and national team. Other than that she just has bad damage compared to the investment you need. So, it was all destined because she's an Electro character. One thing to mention, yeah electro got way better with aggravate and hyperbloom but Clorinde isn't a good hyperbloom driver and aggravate feels like what electro characters should be without reactions. Cheveruse is one of the many tries to make electro better. One final thing, do you see Sethos? Yeah that new guy. If he was a pyro, cryo or hydro character he would be like twice as good. So yeah, electro characters are bad as a main dps. Even fischl is that good as a damage source because of how fast Clorinde's attacks are. I might have downplayed them but you can see Cyno for example. He's another example for a character that never worked because of its element.
Great to see someone who experiments with teams unlike cc's who see an electro character and start thinking of where to put them with dendro units to get million damage....... Good video
Are you running an Atk% cup instead of electro if you're opting in for higher multipliers on both her attacks and the skyward procs? (esp with Furina global %damage?) And thoughts on Baizhu in Zhongli's place if you want a greater proportion of electro damage compared to phys?
I'm almost 3 and a half years in and no Skyward Blade (i don't have any 5* sword as i keep getting Amos Bow or Skyward Spine instead) and Qiqi is the only standard banner 5* character i don't have lol.
While for me, the only standard Weapon banner I ever wanted are Amos Bow, Wolf Gravestone and Skyward Spine (for support), and as of now, they are the only 3 I'm missing TT__TT At least, my first was Jade Winged Spear and I had a lot of use for it (Hu Tao, Cyno, Xiao and now Arlecchino)
While this looks fun and interesting.. But how do people get around qiqi energy requirements? Cuz i always remember that Qiqi main issue is her not being able to generate her own particles..
bro... it's very simple. Put sac sword on her. You have enough healing from skill for a long time and just use burst if needed. She is like Fischl in this regard, you use one or another. Qiqi has zero problems with energy for her uptime. Community just hates on her and almost always tells nonsense from their ignorance.
I think i'm about to do just that. I already have Keqing built so I was on the fence about Clorinde and trying to talk myself out of her. But this is really neat. I can always just run normal aggravate Clorinde on one side and quickbloom Keqing on the other though one side is gonna have to cope without Nahida and I don't have Baizhu. Maybe its time to finally level Traveler.
It's extremely funny to me, because after pulling Clorinde and Alhaitham I tried to get one of the swords on the weapon banner. And... I got Skyward Blade for the first time lmao
This is amazing. Honestly Qiqi's kit has so much power, but in odd ways like healing that are harder to translate into actual team damage performance. It's nice to see her getting rediscovered now that Furina is making healers shine and Clorinde's BoL has that unique interaction with healing. Edit: I actually wasn't all that excited about Clorinde until watching this video, and now I honestly want to pull for her, so good job.
not showing clorinde build wasn't nice.. furina is doing most of the heavy lifting to be honest. I don't have her, but i got her with kazuha beidou and bennet. she clear very fast with them too. Clorinde is a very nice addiction because all character burst work with her "normal attacks"
Those two have always been underrated. Btw, you could achieve a similar effect with Echoes of an Offering. Clorinde may be also able to abuse electro MC flat recharge but I haven't tested it.
I got Qiqi the day i started to play Genshin in 1.0 and loved her a lot back then, so she still holds a special place in my heart. But almost never played her for the last couple of years and I'm glad to see that she has a good and fun team now. Definitely gonna try it out, thank you! EDIT: This team is great, I love it! Fun, comfy and actually strong, cleared first half of floor 12 surprisingly fast. Everyone is c0 except for c4 Qiqi, Skyward is R1. Also The Flute is viable, if you don't have Skyward
I'm liking this team, but Qiqi struggles so hard to burst on cooldown. Mine has 250% ER, Sacrificial Blade, two Favonius team members, and sometimes will get just shy of 80 energy 😢
I don't think this team was on their mind at all. They just overlooked qiqi+furina dynamic for clo. And ofc skyward blade, because why pay attention to an old standard weapon ??/ Hope they won't nerf it somehow
@@pina7310 i dont think they overlook it, given how Furina is essentially works well with any instant healers and hp manipulators, i assume they know people will try two use new and existing characters alike
guys i kid you not, the second that i knew that healing give you more BoL i tough qiqi will be awesome with clorinde im using this combo even with skyward blade
This really informative! Would love to see a follow up video going more in depth about artefacts for qiqi, replacements for zhongli ect. Best rotation or combo for clorinde... Basically maximizing this team as much as possible... Also are all ur limited 5 stars c0r0? Thanks!
it's a really cool team but i think swapping zhongli for nahida would be much better, it effectively transforms into a hyperfridge team and clorinde is still a character who's preferred to play with quicken or quickbloom, and here furina actually gives you hyperbloom, you still get superconduct for skyward blade and freeze for better bloom generation, you can also play nahida with prototype amber for even more healing if you for some reason need it. zhongli just feels like overkill in here, considering that you already have clorinde who's a self-sustainable unit and qiqi who's the best healer in the game by the amount of hp she restores, and that's not to mention furina's healing bonus which increases qiqi's healing and effectively doubles clorinde's healing.
@@MarionFR they're proposing to replace zhongli BCS it's 'overkill' and I bring up the fact that he's there bcs he offers sth else that other units can't, please exercise comprehension
@@YungXin I've already said, read with understanding. Small tip - don't take a few words out of context and don't imagine things no one said. Good luck.
Technically, it has bigger damage output, only if you manage to dodge all the incoming attack. Unlike raiden with her anti stagger stance in burst mode, clorinde is too easy to get staggered/thrown around. Zhongli would be better choice if you have skill issue like me.
Should post builds, because mathematically, this is more of a raw damage carry instead of skyward blade carry. Using the same stat build, aggravate team will deal more team dmg.
That's actually hilarious. I guess my only only concern is Clorinde's skill cooldowns not really lining up with everyone, so might have to us TF instead of Mara? But still interesting to know, so will give it a shot with Layla and Mika as alternatives
Skyward Blade is not dissapoitning if you have only got one, BiS for Bennet in most account, but yeah, useing as a "real" weapen was never really good. But this team is pretty funny though, thanks for the video!
I use it on bennett for instructor build and also on jean and dps kazuha for the drip, i was really happy getting the weapon and it's way better than pride or spine
I can't believe I'm actually tempted to build Qiqi and Skyward Blade in 2024. I don't even have enough Maiden pieces saved to put Qiqi on a 4-piece set. No ATK Goblet, and no HB circlet. Really wish we had Self-Modeling Resin in Genshin, because good lord do I not want to farm Maiden's. The fact that it's doing that much damage without leaning on reactions or big ATK boosts is wild. Love that someone found such a cool way to make use of her healing-> BoL conversion. I assume because the whole thing hinges on Clorinde's Burst activating Skyward Blade's passive, then Thundering Fury isn't actually as useful because you want to wait for your Burst cooldown? Even if you want to go as fast as possible, you're aiming for a 16 second rotation at best to get a Burst every time, so Harmonic Whimsy would be back to being her best set, right?
Skyward Blade - 'one of the worst weapons in the game' ...are you ok, bro??? It's most valuable weapon for Benny and Jean. Surely also good / useful for some other characters. No, those swords with higher base attack make only a tiny difference for Benny buff, they aren't better than Skyward Blade in the whole picture. No, it's not about just adding more ER on artifacts instead. Excess of energy can be super valuable. Besides this ridiculous nonsense about this great weapon, video is very nice and interesting, I appreciate 🌹
You can experiment with Clorinde gear like Echoes artifact set, maybe even a physical dmg bonus cup! Also I made a video with clorinde's dendro aggravate team here: ruclips.net/video/svEKRjTfnl4/видео.html
Have you tried by removing Zhongli for Nahida?
@@blackister4768 nahida wouldn't do much in this team. you're better off swapping him for bennet, yun jin, chevy or just another cryo unit for the crit rate resonance buff
@@asddsa-dy4ne Mika or QiQi is better?
@@ChiyoTachi He does say in the vid that chi chi is way better then mika and i don't see how mika can make up for so much healing chichi provides during the combo to even be mentioned at all. just a sloppy video. play your combo as is, it's less then one pull per floor anyways so who cares if you complete it or not.
@@ChiyoTachi Skyward blade gives 10% attack speed buff and Mika with crowned elemental skill also gives another 22% attack speed buff, there could be a good possibility of that but I don't find Mika's healing to be all that effective, but I've hardly used him. Will have to look into that now.
my triple crowned qiqi and r3 skyward blade are trembling rn
Why Trembleing? wouldnt that mean they get used for once?
@@obsidianstar9089 he means that they're exited to be used lol
@@obsidianstar9089 they are trembling in excitement :)
WHY WOULD YOU WASTE 3 CROWNS ON HER!?!?!?!??
@@thewrathofdumbledore4867 well I dont judge, I triple crowned my Dehya sooooo :/
there's also an interesting mechanic with Layla's shield shooting stars which Clorinde can potentially abuse.
Layla's shooting stars gain 2 stack when a character use elemental skill, and guess who has zero cooldown on their elemental skill?
Keqing?
She also buffs NA damage with her C4. Couple that with Mika's 25% ATK SPD and healing and I think you could further optimise this team. He even gives up to 40% Phys DMG bonus for the Skyward procs, and since these weapon procs can crit, Clorinde also benefits from his C6's buffed crit damage and Superconduct.
@@nanashivii9237 I think her C4 has a cooldown for NA, so attack speed isn't important, tell me if i'm wrong
@@bobthehandyman3650 It is 0.3s, iirc. I haven't actually tested it yet. The buff would be best utilised on her improved E, so increasing the time between E closer to the threshold is beneficial for overall DPS, at least in theory.
I think Clorinde press E is still considered NA not Element Skill, but I don't have a Layla to test it out yet.
Are u fr starting to convince me to build qiqi for this one team that looks so cool, no no never (goes to fight cry reg after levelling clorinde)
Throw in Nahida in there instead of Zhongli, now you can add hyperbloom and aggravate into the mix. If Nahida is c2, now there is a defence shred mechanic added in for extra flavor.
He put zhongli there because he can shred physical .. this showcase is mostly to show the physical damage of chloride qiqi and Skyward blade.
thank you, hoyo, for releasing a new physical character 🎉
I don’t have much clams farmed but I’ll definitely try this out
leyla with tenacity/nobless and freedom sworn could be an alright interruption resist, shield won’t be as strong as zhongli obv and idk how much it competes with resist shred but she’s got shorter animations, can activate cryo resonance, and her c4 will give the tiniest na boost
This is great, and despite the underinvestment the damage floor is actually really good. A couple preliminary thoughts:
- BoL stacking is extremely unreliable here. Sometimes it skyrockets up to 100% within 2 attacks, and other times 2 attacks isn't enough. So the damage output is pretty inconsistent, and I don't know enough about Qiqi skill to understand why that is. Filling the screen with white numbers makes a funny image though.
- Physical lacks a true support that really enables it to scale. There is no Kazuha for physical. I think this team actually stands a chance to be properly competitive when such a teambuilding option exists.
- Clorinde's BoL stacking mechanic is very underexplored, as it now means that she additionally and uniquely scales based on incoming healing rate. I love when new characters offer new ways to provide scaling tools (think Furina completely transforming healer value, or Acheron in HSR getting really strong with high debuff application rate).
Mika was supposed to be the Physical attack buffer, but he is far from good enough to be useful. At C6, it's a bit better, but still too low of a bonus compared to other buffer.
ngl I gotta say he's good enough now thanks to furina, most of our element specific buffer aren't healers so him healing well let's the team run furina without sacrificing anything@@MikojinToyunda
man...i would really want to try this out but I don't have skyward sadge.
a CN run used C6 Furina, idk for Pigeon (not sure he showed), what cons is your Furina?
Is this C0 Furina perf? if that's the case, it's pretty impressive for a team w/o Bennett, w/o Kazuha
He uses C0 Furina
i just tried with C2 Furina and all but cleared in one rotation, my clorinde's Q is only level 5 i think if it was 8-10 it would clear in one rotation
Am I getting this wrong, or is this basically reinventing physical damage teams by using some standard 5*? Wathever way, I'm in
qiqi is VIABLE???
Always has been
Not sure skyward is that bad though, i use it on xinqiu and it fits him perfectly with high attk, er and some crit especially with raiden or dbl hydro teams. Love ur creative video man but does attk spead help clorinde?
Yes attack speed in any comp variation is good for her. It give her the trust enhancement faster. But we just dont have a specific attk speed buffer for clorind rn
@@teeman7137 was wondering if mika in this team with high investment would be an upgrade since he buffs attk speed too and his healing is decent. Jean c2 should be an option for vv shred and attk spead
Ngl I hate the anxiety Fischl & Nahida induce by being so squishy so I'll try it out. Also should I have a physical goblet in this team? Or a whole pale flame set?
Do you have an cons for clorinde btw?
MY C4 QIQI IS SHINING 🦅🦅🦅
How about Yun Jin over Zhongli? Or would her burst quota be over in two seconds because Clorinde spam?
Well, now I want cons on Clorinde to boost that crap with additional normals
How to build the qiqi please😊
With Skyward Blade she kinda become reverse Razor.
Razor deals Physical DMG and on burst gets coordinated instances of Electro DMG.
Clorinde with ele skill deals Electro DMG and on burst gets coordinated instances of Physical DMG.
We've made full circle and returned to Razor, lmao
Reject society return to Razor
Razor best boy
Rajor
Reject humanity turn back to Wof!
You did a better job selling Clorinde than HOYO
HOYO definitely needs to reward the person who first found it if they are'nt going to hire them
Plot twist he is actually Hoyoverse employer
@@tokyoghoulre1582 no way when something like dehya can be released. You implying they test their character lmao
@@littleboss2006 dehya has a functioning kit though, theres nothing about her that implies being a poorly tested character - she just isnt that strong because standard, tighnari felt more like the accident in that regard
@@MrYuntu except she is, she a prototype Fontaine character kits. Which is why it's terrible. Her artifact set is not even her bis lmao. Terrible energy gen with costly burst when her dmg mostly come from that. Tf with tighnari accident. That's literally the proof a standard character can be made good
i knew something like this would happen, a lot of people disregard the healing = bond of life mechanic on clorinde cause most if not all (except qiqi) doesn't have sufficient healing for it significantly affect clorinde's kit, turns out we already have a character that heals a crap ton 🤣
Qiqis healing is actually pretty high if her little thing is on the characters, each hit u do heals u a ton
Maybe 99% of players don't know but Qiqi was the only 1 who can tank all Azhdaha's hits and keep the whole team alive before Furina was released.
@@kyori75I'm pretty sure my Kokomi can survive them, she has tons of hp combined with her good healing, I can't see why she wouldn't
@@wolfgangd3653 This isn't about her 😂
@@kyori75 heh I remember doing that in co-op for the Festering Desire event
Ngnl for how comfy that team is it’s pretty criminal to be doing that much damage.
Literally unkillable, especially if you have Qiqi C6 lol
Very true clorinde self healing+ qiqi healing+ furina healing bonus+ zhongli thick shield!
This team is unkillable
Yeah and it still has room for improvement
Me who lost to C6 Qiqi before getting my Clorinde: Finally
I mean, Kokomi tho. Thrilling Tales buff + Tenacity buff + better heals + secondary damage driver for Furina once Clorinde has done her thing.
I would like to add 1 more thing, if you dont have Zhongli use Layla, that way you can make use of cryo resonance.
Wonder about c6 sara
Clorinde gets crit rate from ascension and another 20% crit rate from passive, unless your artifact is heavily skewed toward crit damage the cryo resonance is likely to overcap her crit rate if your artifacts have half decent CV.
@@damidirbuff duration too short to play
@@semut7226 clorinde's skill is longer than raiden's ult ?
@@damidir but sara only buff 6secs I think?
The window to play Clorinde's skill limited to 3-4secs cmiiw
I guess getting a Qiqi con on the way to get Clorinde was a sign sent by Hoyo, nice I'll build both and try it out, I think I have R2 Skyward blade so it's all coming along.
Non-traditional/uncommon synergies like these are the reason I like Genshin
I got a qiqi con as well
I got a qiqi trying to get clorinde then a Skyward blade trying to get any banner sword.
Yes, even some of isn't uncommon/non traditional we always get something like this many before. Kuki, thoma, healer in general, and since fontaine dehya and Candace c6 is somehow useful in their on way
I got my first Qiqi before Chlorinde too!! Excited to try this new team, Qiqi is adorable!
Unless... Everyone would hate to lose 50/50 to Keqing in Clorinde's banner much more.
Whoever cooked this team needs to be crowned.
i tried it, my clorinde build still needs some improvement, but this teams slapped like crazy, i was surprised how good it was (and how comfy it is, this team is literally unkillable.)
When i first saw video on my fyp i thought who is crazy enough to cook up this team and who would have thought it actually make sense
@@javigamerxiir7107 using fishcl in aggrevate or this team which one is better?
@@javigamerxiir7107 every team with Qiqi is basically unkillable ... unless you happen to get into a combat sitatuation that massively slows down the teams E Skill Cooldowns, because thats QiQi only deadly weakness, if she cant use her E when neccessaty to keep up the constant healing , all you can do, is normal attack spam with no Cryo Application to generate energy for your burst n hope for your hits to cause heal signs, so that the others can heal themself up from targeting the enemy with the heal sign on it.
Plus with C6 Qiqi you have your Emergency Button/Burst for all cases, to revive all dead party members every 15 minutes, so you will always rotate your characters in and out, that in all cases Qiqi will always be your last character that is alive, in order to burst and revive all.
Nice - saw it on Bilibili yesterday and it looks super fun but it seems highly dependent on high refinement skywards and a C2 furina (Chlorinde goes attack cup)
yep as mentioned in the vid i didn't even optimise the team much and it's underinvested. could probably make a crazy time improvement in a week or 2?! 😏
It's fun though
CN bros outdid themselves once again
well anyone who cared about numbers would already have furina c2 because its pretty much the best support in the game
@@mmp5453 in this vid my furina is c0 and i'm good tbh not interested in her cons
Im tempted to pull Clorinde now so my C3 Qiqi could have a use
same. but i must stay strong for nilou
I haven't gotten Sethos yet after 50 pulls, and lost to an early Qiqi. She's C4 now, so even tho I never planned on getting Clorinde, I wouldn't mind getting her if it means being able to use Qiqi, lol.
Also where the fck is my Sethos, Hoyo?-
@@hiimapop7755I only got 1 after 80 pulls for Alhaitham😭
I'm getting tempted too. I have skyward blade and lvl40 c5 qiqi. I was saving for furina cons but i've been watching so many clorinde cool gameplay. Makes me really want to pull coz she thicc too lol
@@hiimapop7755 i've only been getting sethos on that banner but all i want is two more bennett cons for c6, mihoyo is unfair like that 🤧🤧🤧
4 year player but no Skyward Sword and Harp 😭
same here lol, especially Harp would have been a nice off pull instead of Pride 😵
@@bjornnilsson2941i got 2 prides and 1 Aquila + WGS i dont use any weapon of them , never thought i would ever want skyward sword that much but this team seems to be fun
Same :(
Me too 😭 but I have the harp tho
Same, lol. I got every other standard banner weapon except those two.
this is why you're the best Jamie. You should do this more often, this type of video is the reason I started watching your channel.
I appreciate that!
Clam set on Qiqi makes big bubble pops, and the bubble pops are physical damage which the Superconduct res shred helps improve. I'd definitely prefer that over Maiden's
Now if only I had a skyward blade...
I think the hit from the clam set is fixed damage, it wont increase with res shred. I remember I saw some tests but I could be wrong.
Physical Res shred does improve clam damage because it's a debuff on the enemy. Things that would buff your character's physical damage won't affect Clam damage.
@@crocworks oh, yeah mb, phys resistance does affect the damage so shred should help boost the damage a little. I was using Qiqi with raiden to proc superconduit and didnt even notice.
@@Scj10 u are wrong... the healing is CAP but the res shred does help
i did over 34k bubble pop b4 from physical shred, max is 30k healing
@@Scj10 buts to do some of ur own proper research b4 making false claims
I don't think Qiqi is played to her full potential, she should apply talisman (through burst or NA) before Furina burst, so that Furina and Zhongli are rapidly healed by the talisman during their field time, gaining stacks much faster. This is especially important if Furina is c0.
I only got C0 Furina, so thank you for this
so the rotation should be qiqi's ult > qiqi NA once > furina skill > furina ult > zhongli's skill > clorinde unga bunga ?
Might be better to space out qiqi skill and ult when applying the talisman.
@@daisydaey Qiqi NA application has 30 sec cooldown, so it should be used to make up for the inability of bursting each rotation, and also because of this split, each rotation may be shortened to 15 seconds with one bursting while the other using skill only. Rotation of this party is limited by the Furina skill that has 20 sec cooldown.
Two rotation routines with no sac sword on Qiqi:
Furina E, Qiqi AAAAA, Furina Q, Zhongli QE, Clorinde Q, Qiqi Q, Clorinde EEAAEAAEAAE...
Furina QE, Zhongli QE, Clorinde Q, Qiqi EAAAAA, Clorinde EEAAEAAEAAE...
Both have Furina and Zhongli bursting when there is a talisman on the enemy, while Clorinde E also covered. The key is to delay Clorinde skill as much as possible, having Qiqi burst duration crossed into the second rotation to heal up Furina and Zhongli, but this trick would only work against boss.
If it goes to the third rotation you will find a reverse routine:
Qiqi Q, Furina QE, Zhongli QE, Clorinde QEEAAEAAEAAE...
This is much shorter because both Qiqi skill and passive are on cooldown. It also relies on the previous rotation where there is electro leftover to trigger superconduct. It goes full circle and back to the first routine for the forth. There is a 7-second gap between Clorinde skill ending and Furina skill off cooldown, but you can omit that and continue.
I've been using Qiqi with Furina since Furina release and have yet to find the best way to play her, but with sub-optimal rotation abyss still get destroyed easily. The optimized moves for this party seems extremely tricky for speedrunners at low constellations. At high investment, they kill the chamber in a single rotation so the cooldown complications of Qiqi doesn't matter. The timing of when Qiqi would use her skill or burst would still matter a lot in multi-waves however.
Qiqi will heal the team with Furina's ascension passive endless waltz
Gotta love sub optimal teams that use a mechanic that no one even remembers exist. The only times i remember the skyward weapons coordinated attacks are when i unbench my Eula and see Skyward Pride doing almost as much damage as my NAs lmao
One question tho is Maidens the best set on Qiqi even when Clam would be doing more damage with superconduct and Zhongli Res shred?
I want to do some testing on maidens and clam. don't have a great maidens set though
Clam deals "true" damage, not physical, so it doesn't get these buffs, it's hard to differentiate because they're both white.
@@guest_zzroman2076no, superconduct buffs the clam bubble. That’s why QiQi is used in tazer team comps, however, physical cup’s don’t affect the bubble dmg.
@@guest_zzroman2076 I am not sure If I am right but Clam effect gets more dmg against enemies that are phys res shred
@@guest_zzroman2076 Why does my clam bubble pop do more damage if i use superconduct then ?
I never knew that Skyward Blade was that hated. I always thought that the hated weapon was actually Aquila Favonia
It is, skyward blade is not that hated because everyone uses bennet lol
I think both are kinda hated because Skyward was only useful in 2 characters where it wasn't even the best in slot and Aquila Favonia only usage was the highest base attack for Bennett in case someone didn't have Mistplitter or it was used on another character. This adds a good usage for those "unlucky" to get so many of the Skyward Blades.
@@Larkianвообще то Skyward чаще берется на беннета даже при условии потери в базовой атаке. Все потому, что в последнее время беннет как хиллер куда более важен нежели чем дамагер. И может быть довольно сложно собрать и ульт по откату и хп для хила.
actually aquila is the highest base attack sword in the standard pool, so its really good on bennett. his atk buff is based on base attack. so if you have enough energy from artifacts, skyward blade is actually worse on him than aquila
Nah, I'd say the most hated, most useless weapon is still the bell.
It's definitely unintended synergy like xiangling x Bennet snapshot or thundering furry. I love this kind of unintended synergy between unit. Feels like we as players can do cool things beyond the dev expectation. GG
It's the same as Fischl's synergy with Clorinde.
I swear, if hoyo dare to touch it I'll be mad.
It's such a cool concept, something like Thundering Fury Razor in the past.
@@ueu There is no shot (pun intended) that they didn't know about that. Clorinde's damage is clearly lower because of the amount of damage she can squeeze out of oz.
@@swagbrew I feel like Clorinde's raw damage potential is just because she's electro. Electro are known to have such a low row damage potential and that has been the case for years. There's a reason why they got both Sarah and Cheveruse. Even other elements that don't have damage reactions have really high raw damage potential. Navia can throw such a high raw damage without any support or reactions. Sadly, for some reason Electro is just that bad. The only reason why c0 raiden was good is because of her support and national team. Other than that she just has bad damage compared to the investment you need. So, it was all destined because she's an Electro character. One thing to mention, yeah electro got way better with aggravate and hyperbloom but Clorinde isn't a good hyperbloom driver and aggravate feels like what electro characters should be without reactions. Cheveruse is one of the many tries to make electro better. One final thing, do you see Sethos? Yeah that new guy. If he was a pyro, cryo or hydro character he would be like twice as good. So yeah, electro characters are bad as a main dps. Even fischl is that good as a damage source because of how fast Clorinde's attacks are.
I might have downplayed them but you can see Cyno for example. He's another example for a character that never worked because of its element.
pretty sure it /is/ intended, given how much healing sigewinne provides
me with c5 qiqi but no skyward blade
Yeah thats the problem, 5tar selector in ar70
I have everything except furina 😢 and I don't have any gems lost to pull for furina
Wtf who let these people cook,it's been one day since she released
average CN player -
yeah but many infos are leaked for a month so you can start thinking about it was in advance
2:37 wtf is that Clorinde face 🤣chinese memes are on a whole other level
Lmao that was unexpected
Great to see someone who experiments with teams unlike cc's who see an electro character and start thinking of where to put them with dendro units to get million damage....... Good video
CN tc built different lol.. they always far ahead
Yeah, Genshin core combat is elemental reaction, but most people never explore it further
Are you running an Atk% cup instead of electro if you're opting in for higher multipliers on both her attacks and the skyward procs? (esp with Furina global %damage?)
And thoughts on Baizhu in Zhongli's place if you want a greater proportion of electro damage compared to phys?
Yeah definitely, there's no attack buffer in this team and she still need at least 3000ATK. Like you said there's already %dmg bonus from Furina
This does not make the fact I got Qiqi'd in Clorinde's banner any better.
💀💀💀
I got Qiqi’d and Clorinde’d in the same ten pull 💀 Didn’t expect that at all
I was torn between overload and aggravate. Guess i'll just use this comp then.
Such a creative team love it. Honestly might be a useful/strong team for Clorinde given how squishy she can be on other teams.
having both a shielder and a healer can definitely make this team more comfortable than others!
Brings me back to Crescent Pike days
I'm almost 3 and a half years in and no Skyward Blade (i don't have any 5* sword as i keep getting Amos Bow or Skyward Spine instead) and Qiqi is the only standard banner 5* character i don't have lol.
Same! 🤣
I have qiqi no skyward sword tho, I keep getting WGS
C2 qiqi, no 5* sword. Day one player. 🤣
3 and a half years like you. No Keq no Tigh no skyward blade no harp. Kinda broke
While for me, the only standard Weapon banner I ever wanted are Amos Bow, Wolf Gravestone and Skyward Spine (for support), and as of now, they are the only 3 I'm missing TT__TT
At least, my first was Jade Winged Spear and I had a lot of use for it (Hu Tao, Cyno, Xiao and now Arlecchino)
As someone who didn't get Sac or Fav Sword till AR 60, Skyward Blade saved my Xingqiu. When I got a second one, it went to Bennett.
Wtf?
Wait a minute a usage for my qiqi and the skyward blade that i got on the weapon banner!? Holy shit
While this looks fun and interesting.. But how do people get around qiqi energy requirements?
Cuz i always remember that Qiqi main issue is her not being able to generate her own particles..
bro... it's very simple. Put sac sword on her. You have enough healing from skill for a long time and just use burst if needed. She is like Fischl in this regard, you use one or another. Qiqi has zero problems with energy for her uptime. Community just hates on her and almost always tells nonsense from their ignorance.
Damn, i actually wonder how's the team work when I look at it at zaj stream yesterday, and you suddenly uploaded this video what a timing
I dont even have skyward blade and this team is making me want to pull clorinde in case i get it
I think i'm about to do just that. I already have Keqing built so I was on the fence about Clorinde and trying to talk myself out of her. But this is really neat. I can always just run normal aggravate Clorinde on one side and quickbloom Keqing on the other though one side is gonna have to cope without Nahida and I don't have Baizhu. Maybe its time to finally level Traveler.
This team is making me want to pull for skyward blade on standard banner o7
the physical saviour no one expected. sucks that Flute and Kazuha's katana have cooldown on it's effects otherwise it would be broken on Clorinde
I find this team so interesting that I wanna pull for Clorinde since I have every single thing need for this team but not her.
It's extremely funny to me, because after pulling Clorinde and Alhaitham I tried to get one of the swords on the weapon banner. And... I got Skyward Blade for the first time lmao
This is amazing. Honestly Qiqi's kit has so much power, but in odd ways like healing that are harder to translate into actual team damage performance. It's nice to see her getting rediscovered now that Furina is making healers shine and Clorinde's BoL has that unique interaction with healing.
Edit: I actually wasn't all that excited about Clorinde until watching this video, and now I honestly want to pull for her, so good job.
not showing clorinde build wasn't nice.. furina is doing most of the heavy lifting to be honest. I don't have her, but i got her with kazuha beidou and bennet. she clear very fast with them too.
Clorinde is a very nice addiction because all character burst work with her "normal attacks"
Its Eulover
the hottest characters are physical dps it seems
@@jamiekb9v FACT
Now if only I lost to the skyward blade instead of the aquila favonia in the weapon banner :^)
Those two have always been underrated. Btw, you could achieve a similar effect with Echoes of an Offering. Clorinde may be also able to abuse electro MC flat recharge but I haven't tested it.
Eula keeps taking Ls, she isnt even the best physical DPS anymore 😔
I got Qiqi the day i started to play Genshin in 1.0 and loved her a lot back then, so she still holds a special place in my heart. But almost never played her for the last couple of years and I'm glad to see that she has a good and fun team now. Definitely gonna try it out, thank you!
EDIT: This team is great, I love it! Fun, comfy and actually strong, cleared first half of floor 12 surprisingly fast. Everyone is c0 except for c4 Qiqi, Skyward is R1. Also The Flute is viable, if you don't have Skyward
I dig it. It’s great to see more team and weapon experimentation.
clorinde is a better physical dps than eula im sick 😭
I'm liking this team, but Qiqi struggles so hard to burst on cooldown. Mine has 250% ER, Sacrificial Blade, two Favonius team members, and sometimes will get just shy of 80 energy 😢
My qiqi is in 289ER 💀💀💀
Qiqi and Furina is just good. Won't say it's a speedrun duo, but it's very practical and efficient across different teams.
Damn i love how Mihoyo is doing with with Genshin , making old characters shine. Previously Jean , now Qiqi?❤️
I don't think this team was on their mind at all. They just overlooked qiqi+furina dynamic for clo. And ofc skyward blade, because why pay attention to an old standard weapon ??/ Hope they won't nerf it somehow
@@pina7310 i dont think they overlook it, given how Furina is essentially works well with any instant healers and hp manipulators, i assume they know people will try two use new and existing characters alike
guys i kid you not, the second that i knew that healing give you more BoL i tough qiqi will be awesome with clorinde im using this combo even with skyward blade
clever, never thought about this.
Why not showing full build bro 😭
This really informative! Would love to see a follow up video going more in depth about artefacts for qiqi, replacements for zhongli ect. Best rotation or combo for clorinde... Basically maximizing this team as much as possible...
Also are all ur limited 5 stars c0r0?
Thanks!
yes my furina, kazuha, nahida, yelan are all c0. furina also uses festering desire here
it's a really cool team but i think swapping zhongli for nahida would be much better, it effectively transforms into a hyperfridge team and clorinde is still a character who's preferred to play with quicken or quickbloom, and here furina actually gives you hyperbloom, you still get superconduct for skyward blade and freeze for better bloom generation, you can also play nahida with prototype amber for even more healing if you for some reason need it.
zhongli just feels like overkill in here, considering that you already have clorinde who's a self-sustainable unit and qiqi who's the best healer in the game by the amount of hp she restores, and that's not to mention furina's healing bonus which increases qiqi's healing and effectively doubles clorinde's healing.
he's there for IR and shred so it's not just the defensive
@@YungXin Try reading again, no one said it, the point is different.
@@MarionFR they're proposing to replace zhongli BCS it's 'overkill' and I bring up the fact that he's there bcs he offers sth else that other units can't, please exercise comprehension
@@YungXin I've already said, read with understanding. Small tip - don't take a few words out of context and don't imagine things no one said. Good luck.
Which weapons better, the flute or skyward?
Qiqi has always been the goat, used her in my cyno team before I got Bhaizu
So................. Clorinde gives better physical gameplay experience than Eula.
i wonder how this team would perform by replacing zhongli with nahida to give clorinde access to aggravate (and hyperbloom)
I think it depends on how many const you have on chlorinde. Shield is probably used mainly for stagger resist so her combo doesnt get interrupted.
I'm pretty sure zhongli is better here
I don’t have Zhongli so I’m going to try it, I do have crazy Clorinde build though.
Technically, it has bigger damage output, only if you manage to dodge all the incoming attack. Unlike raiden with her anti stagger stance in burst mode, clorinde is too easy to get staggered/thrown around. Zhongli would be better choice if you have skill issue like me.
@@enesjei Shield is highly recommended and dodging while the skill is active is not a good thing considering the short duration of Clorinde's skill.
The one standard weapon i dont have, i have 4 AQ fml
With creativity, many things are possible... this is the beauty of genshin.
I swear if any of your characters die with this team you must quit genshin and never play again😭😭 it should be impossible
I’ve been using chlorinde, nahida, Thoma and furina
It’s really fun seeing all types of reactions happening at once
Should post builds, because mathematically, this is more of a raw damage carry instead of skyward blade carry. Using the same stat build, aggravate team will deal more team dmg.
That's actually hilarious.
I guess my only only concern is Clorinde's skill cooldowns not really lining up with everyone, so might have to us TF instead of Mara?
But still interesting to know, so will give it a shot with Layla and Mika as alternatives
this is such an interesting team im glad it breaks the mold that electro on fielders MUST be in a dendro team
dont forget chevreuse overload teams!
I forgot that this sword provide attack speed too.
In this team i feel as if beidou can also substitute zhongli a bit get electro synergy for qiqi and in aoe shred enemies
Skyward Blade is not dissapoitning if you have only got one, BiS for Bennet in most account, but yeah, useing as a "real" weapen was never really good. But this team is pretty funny though, thanks for the video!
Mistsplitter and aquila are still better due to higher base attack, but Skyward blade is good too.
@@Raezier I like skyward blade more because of the ER personally. Also using freaking mist just for Bennet buff always hurts me to see.
@@Raezier If you dont care for ER sure.
I use it on bennett for instructor build and also on jean and dps kazuha for the drip, i was really happy getting the weapon and it's way better than pride or spine
@@Raezier It can be but I'm not fishing for ~9 extra ER subs on 4NO, (or god forbid Instructor!) for a crumb of base atk
This is kinda extension of Furina-Qiqi team mentioned by マグロヘッド
This is so creative and amazing
how is skyward blade worst weapon??? its literally BiS on bennett
Great on Jean too. I have no idea how a serious content creator can tell such a nonsense.
Hoyo must be taking hard notes for Snezhnaya's special mechanic rn
Ngl I think nahida or baizhu would be better instead of zhongli
This team look fun af I’m gonna try it lol
I can't believe I'm actually tempted to build Qiqi and Skyward Blade in 2024. I don't even have enough Maiden pieces saved to put Qiqi on a 4-piece set. No ATK Goblet, and no HB circlet. Really wish we had Self-Modeling Resin in Genshin, because good lord do I not want to farm Maiden's.
The fact that it's doing that much damage without leaning on reactions or big ATK boosts is wild. Love that someone found such a cool way to make use of her healing-> BoL conversion.
I assume because the whole thing hinges on Clorinde's Burst activating Skyward Blade's passive, then Thundering Fury isn't actually as useful because you want to wait for your Burst cooldown? Even if you want to go as fast as possible, you're aiming for a 16 second rotation at best to get a Burst every time, so Harmonic Whimsy would be back to being her best set, right?
My friend, as a Keqing simp who was gonna skip Clorinde cuz I didn't wanna bench one of the two, you are the GOAT for making us discover this
Which artifact set would be the best to use on clorinde for this? Can the physical hits crit?
My C4 Qiqi wil eat good with Clorinde!
Can anyone give me a quick overview of how Clorinde’s kit works?
Good thing I build my qiqi long time ago since I want to use her with furina
And YunJin instead of Zhongli?
the way she melted the hell out of the first phase is crazy
Skyward Blade - 'one of the worst weapons in the game' ...are you ok, bro??? It's most valuable weapon for Benny and Jean. Surely also good / useful for some other characters. No, those swords with higher base attack make only a tiny difference for Benny buff, they aren't better than Skyward Blade in the whole picture. No, it's not about just adding more ER on artifacts instead. Excess of energy can be super valuable. Besides this ridiculous nonsense about this great weapon, video is very nice and interesting, I appreciate 🌹
Skyward blade is hated? Welp...I was happy to give it to Dendro MC.