Knetizen should be ashamed of themselves! Why isn’t Taeil getting this treatment!!! Why doesn’t the National Assembly do something about public bullying and harassment of young idols!!!!!
It sounds like kpop companies need to start recruiting perfect people, better yet boys and girls that have been sequestered and raised in monasteries. The Korean population of fans expects perfection and complete chastity. It's unreasonable and unfair. This young man did nothing wrong. What they do to young people is beyond disgusting.
But the k-fans expect nothing of themselves. Hopefully they realize once their brains are done developing, that their actions have consequences. I hope that they turn on each other now that they no longer have their punching bag and that they have destroyed their own image in the eyes of their precious favorites. 🤣
Their is one thing I would like to say people should stop worrying about seunghan leaving RIIZE, he is already blessed because greater things more than being an idol are waiting for him a head of him, he is going to be a successful man and those who threw trash on him will always feel ashamed when they look at him. And for the record the knetizens should be worried because what they say in seunghan that time the saw a weak version of himself, their is a strong version and successful version they have not yet seen. Big up to all those who carry the light.
@@mugi52650 I believe there is a bigger issue here than Seunghan which is SM not providing proper support/protection for their artists. Unfortunately this hasn’t been the first time an artist has been subjected to this kind of harassment nor will it be the last unless there are changes to the laws or the industry on how idols are perceived. Moreover the Korean society has a, “Cancel culture,” which is a big part of why their suicidal rates are high.
SM you broke my heart again and again....first EXO...NCT...and now RIIZE... still upset...why SM allowed Seunghan to make the announcement when he was alone??!! why didn't they announce it when others members in korea....It's annoying...the other members can't cheer him up... WIZARD production...U must waiting others member....they still in concert...Why did you make him face the funeral flowers alone.... the other members are overseas...At least if there were any of their members they could stop him from seeing the funeral flowers...😔💔
Please save Seunghan, save RIIZE and all other sm artists, aespa, NCT, etc. Not just sm, the whole k-pop industry now in danger!!! If we accept the removal of Seunghan, such precedents will arise more often. Fight against evil! Don't let the bullies win! Protect the artists from bullies!!!!
Please come back we will miss you so much those who put those wreaths down had no respect for what they put someone through and the damage they caused by thier ridiculous actions he did nothing wrong he never hurt anyone back off stick with things you enjoy dint act like pathetic bullies.if anyone can find a way to send messages of support to him saying soo many people around the world live admire and respect him and we wish him the best in life and health and we want him to stay strong also can anyone find out if this story is true as there are so many fake stories being made no offence to person who made this video.
SM you're the one who lets bully culture in kpop industry I hate you so much! the cause of this is you kbriize! you ruined riize and kbriize only if you dont have evil mind this wouldnt happen, riize ruined by their own toxic fandom, poor riize
The Meaning of the White Wreaths: - A way of expressing one’s wrath towards the company management by saying, "Your Gahm(감) is dead (죽었다). " Definition of Gahm: - Feelings and/or senses. - It has multiple, different kinds of mixed feelings or senses. - The meaning slightly changes depending on where you put this word into different contexts. So kbriize fans were basically saying, "I'm sorry SM for your dead senses and feelings on this matter.” It wasn’t a personal attack against SH. You probably haven't seen that until this happened but it's actually a very commonly used form of protest when Koreans protest against something like politics. This is where we all have cultural barriers. This is where I feel international fans misunderstand Korean culture and have been outraged to an unnecessary level. I understand Western culture takes this in a totally different way. But I believe you guys also need to attempt to learn the meanings of actions from a different culture. If you don't, we only feel you are entitled. Who would listen to those you seem to have moral superiority with no understanding of their culture. It’s unfortunate none of the news were able to explain the exact meaning of the wreath and only interpreted it from Western perspective. This makes us feel overlooked and misunderstood, and don't even know where to begin explaining this because it's common sense to us where we don’t even think it needs to be explained. And we lose the intention of explaining that because we were already insulted with such a level of raging wrath from your side. That's when probably even the normal people started swearing and acted childish. Let's put even more childish ones aside in this case because both sides have whining ones. You already know they don't represent both sides. I acknowledge that some of the wordings on the wreaths were rude and not right. That's something the person who organized also acknowledged and they know there were mistakes because everything happened over night. The team opened the slots for people to purchase the wreaths and the comment section was all up to individuals, and they didn't have time to filter them, or forgot to tell them what one phrase to use for protesting. I believe this was still a Peaceful Protest using non-violent format and effectively delivering the message in a way the company was able to recognize in a short time. Please let me know if you have a better way of expressing the wrath in an effective, non-violent form. I really want to learn. At this time, I truly believe that was our best. The process of demanding and earning can never be that peaceful. I understand your grievance, especially the ones who have been supporting SH since he was a trainee. TBH, that's why I don't understand his careless actions on leaving all those pictures and videos when he had plenty of examples on who got screwed for doing things that people can judge about. If he started at age 14, he sure has seen lots of examples not to follow. Also, there has been subtle discomfort between six members and SH in the beginning which you can find from the RUclips earlier episodes. Those are easily noticeable to people in Asian culture whereas Western people can’t and don’t think it’s a problem even if they notice it. This is the cultural barrier the majority of both sides will never understand except for a few people at this time. I think he probably wouldn't get this much trouble if he made the debut with a different company or a team that appeals to people with similar moral and ethical standards to SH. But people who follow SM will have higher moral standards and expect to see a harmonizing team with respect. Based on that, SH is too much a free-soul to be honest with some unintentional rudeness. Gathering your influence and making him internationally successful is the best/only way at this time. Sorry that you now can’t support them together. Please know kbriize was not happy when the final decision was made even though we still won’t change our decision. It only damaged both sides. SM should have made a decision last year before the world tour started so the team could have attracted a different kind of audience (I probably didn’t follow the team back then if that happened) and allow some time for the team to unite strongly (while working on his immaturity) during the world tour.
Knetizen should be ashamed of themselves! Why isn’t Taeil getting this treatment!!! Why doesn’t the National Assembly do something about public bullying and harassment of young idols!!!!!
It sounds like kpop companies need to start recruiting perfect people, better yet boys and girls that have been sequestered and raised in monasteries. The Korean population of fans expects perfection and complete chastity. It's unreasonable and unfair. This young man did nothing wrong. What they do to young people is beyond disgusting.
Exactly. They should just debut AI if they want robots and not humans with emotion.
But the k-fans expect nothing of themselves. Hopefully they realize once their brains are done developing, that their actions have consequences. I hope that they turn on each other now that they no longer have their punching bag and that they have destroyed their own image in the eyes of their precious favorites. 🤣
I agree with you
I agree... This is so sad
Not even a briize but this broke me. I love him :( and hope the best for him and the group.
They hurt him so bad, and he just wants peace. Those stupid people did him dirty. And the company didn't protect him at all.
Their is one thing I would like to say people should stop worrying about seunghan leaving RIIZE, he is already blessed because greater things more than being an idol are waiting for him a head of him, he is going to be a successful man and those who threw trash on him will always feel ashamed when they look at him.
And for the record the knetizens should be worried because what they say in seunghan that time the saw a weak version of himself, their is a strong version and successful version they have not yet seen. Big up to all those who carry the light.
It is really hurtful and I actually want him to be in Riize, but if that doesn't happen then I really hope that what you say becomes true.❤
@@mugi52650 I believe there is a bigger issue here than Seunghan which is SM not providing proper support/protection for their artists. Unfortunately this hasn’t been the first time an artist has been subjected to this kind of harassment nor will it be the last unless there are changes to the laws or the industry on how idols are perceived. Moreover the Korean society has a, “Cancel culture,” which is a big part of why their suicidal rates are high.
SM you broke my heart again and again....first EXO...NCT...and now RIIZE...
still upset...why SM allowed Seunghan to make the announcement when he was alone??!! why didn't they announce it when others members in korea....It's annoying...the other members can't cheer him up...
WIZARD production...U must waiting others member....they still in concert...Why did you make him face the funeral flowers alone.... the other members are overseas...At least if there were any of their members they could stop him from seeing the funeral flowers...😔💔
I jist realized most of them are boygroups 💔
I really really hate SM entertainment 😡🤬
Riize will be forever 7! 😭❤️
Please save Seunghan, save RIIZE and all other sm artists, aespa, NCT, etc.
Not just sm, the whole k-pop industry now in danger!!!
If we accept the removal of Seunghan, such precedents will arise more often.
Fight against evil! Don't let the bullies win!
Protect the artists from bullies!!!!
Please come back we will miss you so much those who put those wreaths down had no respect for what they put someone through and the damage they caused by thier ridiculous actions he did nothing wrong he never hurt anyone back off stick with things you enjoy dint act like pathetic bullies.if anyone can find a way to send messages of support to him saying soo many people around the world live admire and respect him and we wish him the best in life and health and we want him to stay strong also can anyone find out if this story is true as there are so many fake stories being made no offence to person who made this video.
Wait so it’s the people who put the flowers under sm who made him leave the group?
yes
They are definitely going to hell for this. Complete psychopaths to send funeral wreaths in hundreds to an alive 21 year old.
SM lost two beautiful souls before and now they're still allowing this kind of act
Well I just hope that something does need to change and it starts here right now
Change needs to happen
SM you're the one who lets bully culture in kpop industry I hate you so much!
the cause of this is you kbriize! you ruined riize
and kbriize only if you dont have evil mind this wouldnt happen, riize ruined by their own toxic fandom, poor riize
The Meaning of the White Wreaths:
- A way of expressing one’s wrath towards the company management by saying, "Your Gahm(감) is dead (죽었다). "
Definition of Gahm:
- Feelings and/or senses.
- It has multiple, different kinds of mixed feelings or senses.
- The meaning slightly changes depending on where you put this word into different contexts.
So kbriize fans were basically saying, "I'm sorry SM for your dead senses and feelings on this matter.”
It wasn’t a personal attack against SH.
You probably haven't seen that until this happened but it's actually a very commonly used form of protest when Koreans protest against something like politics.
This is where we all have cultural barriers.
This is where I feel international fans misunderstand Korean culture and have been outraged to an unnecessary level.
I understand Western culture takes this in a totally different way.
But I believe you guys also need to attempt to learn the meanings of actions from a different culture.
If you don't, we only feel you are entitled.
Who would listen to those you seem to have moral superiority with no understanding of their culture.
It’s unfortunate none of the news were able to explain the exact meaning of the wreath and only interpreted it from Western perspective.
This makes us feel overlooked and misunderstood, and don't even know where to begin explaining this because it's common sense to us where we don’t even think it needs to be explained.
And we lose the intention of explaining that because we were already insulted with such a level of raging wrath from your side.
That's when probably even the normal people started swearing and acted childish.
Let's put even more childish ones aside in this case because both sides have whining ones.
You already know they don't represent both sides.
I acknowledge that some of the wordings on the wreaths were rude and not right.
That's something the person who organized also acknowledged and they know there were mistakes because everything happened over night.
The team opened the slots for people to purchase the wreaths and the comment section was all up to individuals, and they didn't have time to filter them, or forgot to tell them what one phrase to use for protesting.
I believe this was still a Peaceful Protest using non-violent format and effectively delivering the message in a way the company was able to recognize in a short time.
Please let me know if you have a better way of expressing the wrath in an effective, non-violent form.
I really want to learn.
At this time, I truly believe that was our best.
The process of demanding and earning can never be that peaceful.
I understand your grievance, especially the ones who have been supporting SH since he was a trainee.
TBH, that's why I don't understand his careless actions on leaving all those pictures and videos when he had plenty of examples on who got screwed for doing things that people can judge about.
If he started at age 14, he sure has seen lots of examples not to follow.
Also, there has been subtle discomfort between six members and SH in the beginning which you can find from the RUclips earlier episodes.
Those are easily noticeable to people in Asian culture whereas Western people can’t and don’t think it’s a problem even if they notice it.
This is the cultural barrier the majority of both sides will never understand except for a few people at this time.
I think he probably wouldn't get this much trouble if he made the debut with a different company or a team that appeals to people with similar moral and ethical standards to SH.
But people who follow SM will have higher moral standards and expect to see a harmonizing team with respect.
Based on that, SH is too much a free-soul to be honest with some unintentional rudeness.
Gathering your influence and making him internationally successful is the best/only way at this time.
Sorry that you now can’t support them together.
Please know kbriize was not happy when the final decision was made even though we still won’t change our decision.
It only damaged both sides.
SM should have made a decision last year before the world tour started so the team could have attracted a different kind of audience (I probably didn’t follow the team back then if that happened) and allow some time for the team to unite strongly (while working on his immaturity) during the world tour.
Yall so weird