All the club makers on the shelves and even some DTC brands have been way too comfortable overpricing their clubs 5x or more their BOM cost. Sure, they have to slap on some extra on it for R&D, sponsorships and the pro shop, but current prices are just ridiculous.
I am a Chinese and I used to contact the sellers of these Golf clubs. To be honest these clubs are really made in legit factories with nice machines, and the workers are very experienced. Essentially golf clubs are just a peice of metal and it is the designing and advertising parts that cost the most, the actual manufacture is quite cheap. Factorises sell those TEMU clubs in China at a even lower price. From my perspective it is better to buy Chinese Iron/Wedges head only and pair them with authentic shafts. Some CNC putters are also great deals. But do not buy fake drivers they are crap.
"Just a piece of metal" lol. I'm sorry, but that's just ignorant. I'm a machinist. Material cost is majority of manufacture cost. These clubs may perform similar off the shelf, but give it a year or less. They will probably cave in or snap.
@@LTR1420 Thank you and please forgive me i am not a professional. These ideas are just based on my personal experiences. One of the fake club manufacturers told me they use S20C for their Miura replica, which is the same kind of metal that miura uses. However they might be telling lies and I can't make comment on their durability. Although I chose genuine P770 irons, I still think those replicas are good deals for beginners as they will look for better clubs when they are getting serious and they can enjoy the nice feeling of best irons on the market at a low price.
@Ronniexu-tp5ir no worries. If they actually do use the same metal, they probably don't heat treat them, and I can gurantee their forging process is nonexistent. It wouldn't be a bad option for a beginner, but I would recommend a set of irons that are a few years old from a reputable manufacturer. The golf club market is so oversaturated with "new" clubs every year that aren't a significant improvement over clubs that came out 5-10 years ago. You can build a solid bag of clubs with old equipment that came out over the past decade.
Golf equipment is too expensive. I get why some people choose to get clubs from Temu but I prefer to get DTC brands. I’m a fan of RAM, Macgregor and Matlby.
I've gamed Ram in the last couple of years, and those irons worked out pretty well. Adding a new Maltby driver to the bag as we speak. Hireko is also a nice source for good prices. I've been using their Dynacraft Prophet Muscle Blades for the bulk of the last year, and they have been ridiculously good.
Really like your content, and I appreciate your efforts doing all these research. Just to share some thoughts with you, for friendly discussion. 1、Basically, you could just remove "golf" in the title. The same circumstances apply to all kinds of products. 2、It's good to be concerned about the working environment issues of Chinese factories. But please remember, genuine products from other big brands are also made in those kinds of factories. Not just golf, not just TEMU.
yeah I'm real surprised that working conditions were highlighted and not a mention of the fact that near every other consumer good we buy has the same problem. especially in athletic wear.
You are the stupid consumer that makes the problem, you see a fake club for half the price, thinking it exactly the same as the real one, them call the real manufacturer expensive for build the club to their real spec, and spending all the time and money to design it. If you want to buy cheaper clubs thats fine, but don't pretend they are the same clubs.
@@krusher74 Sometimes they ARE the real clubs. They come from the same factory. Chineese employees have been caught stealing and reselling. All of the biggest brands spend hundreds of millions of dollars every year on branding. It's their #1 expense. Most clubs only cost the manufacturers about $14 to make.
Had a PGA pro buddy who had business and manufacturing background. He had signed an NDA With a Chinese club company during a visit. who made clubs for one of the biggest American golf companies, but also had White Label clubs sold on Aliexpress.
I hate to say it but golf equipment is way too expensive. I see why it’s bad for innovation in the golf world because legit companies won’t be able to make money on research and testing but the consumer is gonna want to pay less for things, such as golf clubs. So this whole situation is a double edged sword.
Never bought clubs from Temu but for tees, gloves and training aids they save me a lot of money! When you think about it most golf equipment is made in China!
Super political. If he cares a ton about the factory ethics then he and the rest of us shouldn't buy almost ANYTHING that is sold here in the US as we are China's biggest consumer. Golf companies here must be happy for this stance for this video 😂
Not only that. Look into how ethical the mining of materials for phones is. All are info is bought and sold by every company, every app, all your shit out there already.
I bought the knock-off p790 set off TEMU and couldnt be more satisfied. The must be made in the same factory because the play EXACTLY like my originals. everyone that hits them immediatly buys a set... They are sold out of the copper finish
Probably the first video where I didn’t agree with your opinions and that’s okay. Lower price is competition and that is really important now more than ever when everything is so expensive. The wedge looked impressive on numbers. Will have to get one to try.
I like Temu in theory - love that they are offering golfers affording equipment for once - just don't know if I can trust their methods and standards. Since everything about the app on Golf RUclips is incredibly positive, I thought I should give a slightly different perspective on the repercussions of it all
Agreed. Kinda seemed like somebody paid for this as promo. I think if this guy sticks to more facts and less of his own opinion, his videos will do a lot better.
@@RoluGolf Honestly, the best argument against Temu clubs, are used clubs. My full bag with clubs ranging from 2014 to 2019 models (and a putter from 1982 lol) cost me less than $900 and they're not supporting more waste. They're also legal for competition play.
@@edge21str Well said. That's part of the reason I enjoyed my Nike video so much and this is definitely something I want to get into more going forward
Yes, golf equipment is way too expensive, but they do spend a lot of money in R & D. Once that product is out, it's pretty easy to copy the product and not have to use resources which increases cost.
@@krusher74 LOL. I'm supposed to believe that the CEO of my company is going to pay me more because I paid quadruple the price for the same grips?? Maybe American companies with CEO's that make tens of millions a year could just sell them for 10% more, not 400% more and I would buy them. Not to mention that the American companies are selling grips that came out of the same factory in China as the ones I bought. I'm not paying for that CEO's 2nd Yacht!! Feel free to give them your money though
I have bought a bunch of things from temu and most of it golf, even a putter although mostly little things and mostly knockoffs butI am very satisfied with my purchases.
I bought a set of 13 grips for $40AUD and they came in the exact same packaging that You’d see in your local pro shop. Golf prices are way too high already some products on temu you’re just cutting out the middle man
I have a vid idea for you. What about doing videos on the history of the most famous golf courses in the world? As a newer golfer I love the sport and been catching up on a lot of info but I still don’t know what makes certain courses famous if that makes sense
Bought a Scotty Cameron copy (Newport 2 I think) from Temu, might be the best putter I've had, I've been playing a TM Spider the last couple of years. I think if anything with Temu, you just never know. Bought a forged wedge as well, which might go in the bag at some point. So, if you're lucky, you can find some absolute bargains, and sometimes it's just what it looks like, cheap knock offs.
EVERY on line transaction with just about any company we have to supply our personal information. If payments are onvolved we have to share financial and personal information. Google know more about us than we can possibly understand so why are we suddenley worried about another online company getting our personal information..........? You think a Chinese company is less trust worthy than a US company?
I purchased a hat with a Master's logo for under $5 and a towel with a Masters logo for I think it was $6. Yes I know they aren't authentic, but other than the folks in Augusta Ga, who gives a flying Fuk?? The one time I was fortunate enough to get to the Masters, the only thing I could afford in the gift shop was a ball repair tool. LOL!!
Ehhh.... it's not that simple. They steal patented designs that cost millions to develop then undercut the creator. It's intellectual theft. Do a little research. It's a big problem and a form of economic warfare
Golf prices need a reality check. Idk if this is the right way though.
All the club makers on the shelves and even some DTC brands have been way too comfortable overpricing their clubs 5x or more their BOM cost. Sure, they have to slap on some extra on it for R&D, sponsorships and the pro shop, but current prices are just ridiculous.
@ couldn’t agree more.
Yeah,,,a wedge is around 200 bucks!!
How else
They will continue to charge these exorbitant prices as long as people are willing to pay for it.
I am a Chinese and I used to contact the sellers of these Golf clubs. To be honest these clubs are really made in legit factories with nice machines, and the workers are very experienced. Essentially golf clubs are just a peice of metal and it is the designing and advertising parts that cost the most, the actual manufacture is quite cheap. Factorises sell those TEMU clubs in China at a even lower price. From my perspective it is better to buy Chinese Iron/Wedges head only and pair them with authentic shafts. Some CNC putters are also great deals. But do not buy fake drivers they are crap.
That's a very good point -- maybe I need to revisit this video one day and give Temu irons/wedges a proper chance. Thanks for the insight
"Just a piece of metal" lol. I'm sorry, but that's just ignorant. I'm a machinist. Material cost is majority of manufacture cost. These clubs may perform similar off the shelf, but give it a year or less. They will probably cave in or snap.
@@LTR1420 Thank you and please forgive me i am not a professional. These ideas are just based on my personal experiences. One of the fake club manufacturers told me they use S20C for their Miura replica, which is the same kind of metal that miura uses. However they might be telling lies and I can't make comment on their durability. Although I chose genuine P770 irons, I still think those replicas are good deals for beginners as they will look for better clubs when they are getting serious and they can enjoy the nice feeling of best irons on the market at a low price.
@Ronniexu-tp5ir no worries. If they actually do use the same metal, they probably don't heat treat them, and I can gurantee their forging process is nonexistent. It wouldn't be a bad option for a beginner, but I would recommend a set of irons that are a few years old from a reputable manufacturer. The golf club market is so oversaturated with "new" clubs every year that aren't a significant improvement over clubs that came out 5-10 years ago. You can build a solid bag of clubs with old equipment that came out over the past decade.
"China steel no good" and this is a quote from the horses mouth
The Tiger towel at 2:25 has me 💀😂
Some of those manufacturers also make your P790s. Same regulations, same labor practices.
Golf equipment is too expensive. I get why some people choose to get clubs from Temu but I prefer to get DTC brands. I’m a fan of RAM, Macgregor and Matlby.
Maltby all day
Ben hogan is good too
@ I’ve heard good things about them but haven’t tried them out.
I've gamed Ram in the last couple of years, and those irons worked out pretty well. Adding a new Maltby driver to the bag as we speak.
Hireko is also a nice source for good prices. I've been using their Dynacraft Prophet Muscle Blades for the bulk of the last year, and they have been ridiculously good.
@ let me know if you like the driver. I’m thinking about upgrading my driver since it’s almost 6 years old.
Really like your content, and I appreciate your efforts doing all these research. Just to share some thoughts with you, for friendly discussion.
1、Basically, you could just remove "golf" in the title. The same circumstances apply to all kinds of products.
2、It's good to be concerned about the working environment issues of Chinese factories. But please remember, genuine products from other big brands are also made in those kinds of factories. Not just golf, not just TEMU.
yeah I'm real surprised that working conditions were highlighted and not a mention of the fact that near every other consumer good we buy has the same problem. especially in athletic wear.
So maybe the golf manufacturers make equipment more affordable if you're worried about Temu's pricing.
Its more about brand counterfeiting than the cost. I don't see the issue if they made their own brand.
You are the stupid consumer that makes the problem, you see a fake club for half the price, thinking it exactly the same as the real one, them call the real manufacturer expensive for build the club to their real spec, and spending all the time and money to design it. If you want to buy cheaper clubs thats fine, but don't pretend they are the same clubs.
@@krusher74 Sometimes they ARE the real clubs. They come from the same factory. Chineese employees have been caught stealing and reselling.
All of the biggest brands spend hundreds of millions of dollars every year on branding. It's their #1 expense. Most clubs only cost the manufacturers about $14 to make.
Most high end golf clubs are made in China or other SE Asia countries.
Had a PGA pro buddy who had business and manufacturing background. He had signed an NDA With a Chinese club company during a visit. who made clubs for one of the biggest American golf companies, but also had White Label clubs sold on Aliexpress.
I hate to say it but golf equipment is way too expensive. I see why it’s bad for innovation in the golf world because legit companies won’t be able to make money on research and testing but the consumer is gonna want to pay less for things, such as golf clubs. So this whole situation is a double edged sword.
2:25 👈🏼😂 Tiger Wood doesn’t approve this website !! 🤣 They used his mugshot to promote the product.
This feels a little more political than it should
Bobby’s brainworm found a new home 😂
Hard to leave politics out when the difference is so drastic between the 2 administrations
I smell a panzy
Tiger's gonna sue the crap out of chinazon 'cause of their Tiger Towel at 2:25 LOL
Never bought clubs from Temu but for tees, gloves and training aids they save me a lot of money! When you think about it most golf equipment is made in China!
Another excellent ROLU video. Keep the content coming. Temu definitely sketchy.
Super political. If he cares a ton about the factory ethics then he and the rest of us shouldn't buy almost ANYTHING that is sold here in the US as we are China's biggest consumer. Golf companies here must be happy for this stance for this video 😂
Not only that. Look into how ethical the mining of materials for phones is. All are info is bought and sold by every company, every app, all your shit out there already.
Yep I guarantee you his set of clubs he regularly uses are made in china.
Listen, Alexa, Siri, Apple, Samsung, Smart TV's all have your info. I ain't scared of Temu.
I bought the knock-off p790 set off TEMU and couldnt be more satisfied. The must be made in the same factory because the play EXACTLY like my originals. everyone that hits them immediatly buys a set... They are sold out of the copper finish
Where is the link for the TEMU p790's?
They are discontinued
@@veryradfarout no they are not
Probably the first video where I didn’t agree with your opinions and that’s okay.
Lower price is competition and that is really important now more than ever when everything is so expensive.
The wedge looked impressive on numbers. Will have to get one to try.
I like Temu in theory - love that they are offering golfers affording equipment for once - just don't know if I can trust their methods and standards. Since everything about the app on Golf RUclips is incredibly positive, I thought I should give a slightly different perspective on the repercussions of it all
Agreed. Kinda seemed like somebody paid for this as promo. I think if this guy sticks to more facts and less of his own opinion, his videos will do a lot better.
I could have saved you $3.49 by telling you the tees sucked without buying them 😂 I mean just look at the pictures.
@@RoluGolf Honestly, the best argument against Temu clubs, are used clubs. My full bag with clubs ranging from 2014 to 2019 models (and a putter from 1982 lol) cost me less than $900 and they're not supporting more waste. They're also legal for competition play.
@@edge21str Well said. That's part of the reason I enjoyed my Nike video so much and this is definitely something I want to get into more going forward
If these major companies wouldn't be so greedy and make things so expensive they wouldn't have to deal with stuff like that just saying
Yes, golf equipment is way too expensive, but they do spend a lot of money in R & D. Once that product is out, it's pretty easy to copy the product and not have to use resources which increases cost.
I’m a middle aged man who’s not gay, it this lad is ridiculously good looking.
GHAY!
I bought a set of 13 grips for like $30. Installed them myself. They are terrific. I'll never buy grips anywhere else again.
every $ you send to china is a $ someone in your own country does not have to pay you for the job/services you do to make a living.
@@krusher74 LOL. I'm supposed to believe that the CEO of my company is going to pay me more because I paid quadruple the price for the same grips?? Maybe American companies with CEO's that make tens of millions a year could just sell them for 10% more, not 400% more and I would buy them. Not to mention that the American companies are selling grips that came out of the same factory in China as the ones I bought. I'm not paying for that CEO's 2nd Yacht!! Feel free to give them your money though
@@krusher74 😂 ur funny
Amazing video man learned a lot❤
Just talk about what you know. You sound like you're sponsored by ned
I have bought a bunch of things from temu and most of it golf, even a putter although mostly little things and mostly knockoffs butI am very satisfied with my purchases.
I bought a set of 13 grips for $40AUD and they came in the exact same packaging that
You’d see in your local pro shop. Golf prices are way too high already some products on temu you’re just cutting out the middle man
I have a vid idea for you. What about doing videos on the history of the most famous golf courses in the world? As a newer golfer I love the sport and been catching up on a lot of info but I still don’t know what makes certain courses famous if that makes sense
Yeah why is pebble beach so popular besides being next to the ocean and beautiful lol 🤣.
@ that’s what I’m saying lol a lot of courses are like that what makes that one special
I'm liking your channel.
Nice video, keep up the good work :)
These videos are such bs. I been searching on Temu and cannot find any of the clubs these guys review
Dreadful channel. Biased.
With all that comes with an order from TEMU (security issues, personal info issues) I agree it may not be worth it
It's hilarious that the companies that say "don't use temu" also sell your personal data.
99% of everyone that's been buying on the internet for a while has had their info leaked and sold all over the world.
Nice swing and awesome video 👍🏻
Bought a Scotty Cameron copy (Newport 2 I think) from Temu, might be the best putter I've had, I've been playing a TM Spider the last couple of years. I think if anything with Temu, you just never know. Bought a forged wedge as well, which might go in the bag at some point. So, if you're lucky, you can find some absolute bargains, and sometimes it's just what it looks like, cheap knock offs.
Temu P790 ... Sold out 😢😢
Cool video. If I was buying on a budget, I would just buy at thrift stores or FB marketplace.
How about they drop their prices big manufacturers
You want them to sell there products for the same price as a knock off inferior copy? You are comparing apples and oranges.
Soak that wedge in Pepsi for two days and Ull strip that finish off . Might feel better being a raw wedge
That might be a sick little experiment. Thanks for the insight
EVERY on line transaction with just about any company we have to supply our personal information. If payments are onvolved we have to share financial and personal information. Google know more about us than we can possibly understand so why are we suddenley worried about another online company getting our personal information..........? You think a Chinese company is less trust worthy than a US company?
I purchased a hat with a Master's logo for under $5 and a towel with a Masters logo for I think it was $6. Yes I know they aren't authentic, but other than the folks in Augusta Ga, who gives a flying Fuk?? The one time I was fortunate enough to get to the Masters, the only thing I could afford in the gift shop was a ball repair tool. LOL!!
Im going to the Teemu open
Tee's, towels.head covers. Sure why not. Full set of irons ? No thanks
Wait peoples wood tees actually last more than one hole? Only ones that last for me are plastic tees
i cannot find those $200 P790 rip offs
Temu golfs awesome if your right handed
Temu is great. If you like all your products made in sweat shops and by children.
You said a lot of mights for 4 times less the price. Just use a virtual cc and keep playing cheaper.
All companies engage in unscrupulous data practices
Fair tbh
Got my 6 dollar ear buds. Dam
Who buys tees?!
I buy Chinese end of story
It’s competition. Stop whining
Ehhh.... it's not that simple. They steal patented designs that cost millions to develop then undercut the creator. It's intellectual theft. Do a little research. It's a big problem and a form of economic warfare
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Reminds me of honey